Sao Paulo Reports

[Balboa]

Most Scandallo girls that ask 1500-2000 are high quality tier 1. If I like / want the girl, I will counter with 1/2 of her offer and will go as high as 1/2 + 200. This approach has only failed me 1 time and there were extenuating circumstances for that lone one time: while I was interviewing the girl over a drink, her GF had lined up 3 VIP Brazilians waiting for her in the wings with open bottles of liquor, so the girl had little incentive to accept my counter. But except for that one time, really hot tier 1's have always quoted me in the 1500-2000 range, say 2000 and I always countered with 1000 and we always settled on 1000 or 1200.

Most tier 2 Scandallo girls will ask 1200 or far, far less. I apply roughly the same approach as with tier 1's and counter with half and I am willing to settle for 1/2 + 200. So if a tier 2 l asks 800, I will counter with 600 or 700 (not 400), and if I like the girl I am even willing to accept her 800 original. Nothing is set in stone. My main point here is that I have never paid more than 800 for a pretty Scandallo girl next door type.

Interestingly, when I first started visiting Scandallo during Omicron (Oct 2021) all the girls I interviewed were asking 500 to 700. My pretty Valeria was asking 500 and I immediately accepted her offer. Later in April 2022 on my 3rd SP trip and after our 5th or 6th time in-house, she suggested the idea of a modified ST which amounted to 5 to 7 hours at my hotel (no clock watching), and multiple you know what for 900 and I happily accepted the upsell. It is a good price for what I am receiving in return, but it ain't exactly cheap in that that we always enjoy a bottle of "quality" red wine (200 and up), sometimes we indulge in smoke (delivered to my hotel), and we always have either room service, delivery or we go out for dinner. All the incidentals add up, but who cares. I really like this girl and I see her like 3 x a week on Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday nights when I am in town. Sundays, Mondays and holidays are slow nights. Valeria makes those nights memorable and I am looking forward to seeing her many times this June thru July.

Gabi must have been hot! I wrote that I have never paid more than 1200, but that doesn't mean I will never pay more for a real looker if I really like / want her. KKK. It's only money. I rule nothing out.

Who classifies each girl as Tier 1 or Tier 2?

One guy's Tier 1 may not be another's.

What if a girl believes she is Tier 1 but to you she's not, however, she starts out at Tier 1 pricing?
Do you tell her, amor, me perdoe, mas voce não e de Tier 1 lol

[FilthyBeaver]

To each his own, my 10 is your 8, ymmv, and chemistry is everything. Who cares what it costs. Money is only something you need if you don't die tomorrow.

As usual Axel is spot on. As to Gabi I didn't find her that hot she was Marks girl and Mark is a newbie. She's a real pro and knew she had him by the balls. I would never have taken her for 1500 but he was quite smitten w her (think a very sophisticated secretary who is very naughty). He reported she was great in the room and in fact had her for another 90 minutes over at the hotel. She's all business about the $$ though. Tough negotiator!

[Steve 9696]

As usual Axel is spot on. As to Gabi I didn't find her that hot — she was Marks girl and Mark is a newbie. She's a real pro and knew she had him by the balls. I would never have taken her for 1500 but he was quite smitten w her (think a very sophisticated secretary who is very naughty). He reported she was great in the room and in fact had her for another 90 minutes over at the hotel. She's all business about the $$ though. Tough negotiator!

[Axel Heyst]

Nah. I think they are debating that the "ask" is about 1500-2000. But that's that not what you should pay. They will always ask for more. The folks here are saying don't fall for that higher price ask. Always negotiate it down. Some even got it down to R500.

Most Scandallo girls that ask 1500-2000 are high quality tier 1. If I like / want the girl, I will counter with 1/2 of her offer and will go as high as 1/2 + 200. This approach has only failed me 1 time and there were extenuating circumstances for that lone one time: while I was interviewing the girl over a drink, her GF had lined up 3 VIP Brazilians waiting for her in the wings with open bottles of liquor, so the girl had little incentive to accept my counter. But except for that one time, really hot tier 1's have always quoted me in the 1500-2000 range, say 2000 and I always countered with 1000 and we always settled on 1000 or 1200.

Most tier 2 Scandallo girls will ask 1200 or far, far less. I apply roughly the same approach as with tier 1's and counter with half and I am willing to settle for 1/2 + 200. So if a tier 2 l asks 800, I will counter with 600 or 700 (not 400), and if I like the girl I am even willing to accept her 800 original. Nothing is set in stone. My main point here is that I have never paid more than 800 for a pretty Scandallo girl next door type.

Interestingly, when I first started visiting Scandallo during Omicron (Oct 2021) all the girls I interviewed were asking 500 to 700. My pretty Valeria was asking 500 and I immediately accepted her offer. Later in April 2022 on my 3rd SP trip and after our 5th or 6th time in-house, she suggested the idea of a modified ST which amounted to 5 to 7 hours at my hotel (no clock watching), and multiple you know what for 900 and I happily accepted the upsell. It is a good price for what I am receiving in return, but it ain't exactly cheap in that that we always enjoy a bottle of "quality" red wine (200 and up), sometimes we indulge in smoke (delivered to my hotel), and we always have either room service, delivery or we go out for dinner. All the incidentals add up, but who cares. I really like this girl and I see her like 3 x a week on Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday nights when I am in town. Sundays, Mondays and holidays are slow nights. Valeria makes those nights memorable and I am looking forward to seeing her many times this June thru July.

Hahah. No it was all one on one. But I remembered wrong. We went two different nights and each took 2 two girls each night (different sessions). So a total of 8 girls but one was the same girl so really seven. All were in that 1000-1200 range except Gabi at 1500.

Gabi must have been hot! I wrote that I have never paid more than 1200, but that doesn't mean I will never pay more for a real looker if I really like / want her. KKK. It's only money. I rule nothing out.

[Steve 9696]

You guys both took 5 girls in total to one room? Sounds like quite a fiesta!

Hahah. No it was all one on one. But I remembered wrong. We went two different nights and each took 2 two girls each night (different sessions). So a total of 8 girls but one was the same girl so really seven. All were in that 1000-1200 range except Gabi at 1500.

That said, I did have a "seven-some" with sn amazing old dude (70) at Globe in Zurich a few weeks back. He had three girls and I had two. There was flogging (another guy), watersports, and a banana. It was really something. I posted it in the seeking arrangements thread. Worth a read. It was epic.

Here is day 2 with the sevensome. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements/page3
U might want to start with day one a few posts prior to get the background.

[Knowledge]

Go big or go home, LOL!

You guys both took 5 girls in total to one room? Sounds like quite a fiesta!

[Trojan22]

I agree the 1500-2000 seems high, based on our experience. Between us Mark and I took five girls to the room for an hour. All top tier. Generally they asked 1500 but took 1000,1100, 1200, and 1500. There was only one that stuck to her guns on 1500 - she could tell she had Mark by the balls. But the others were all more reasonable. As always YMMV.

You guys both took 5 girls in total to one room? Sounds like quite a fiesta!

[RealShaun]

Nah. I think they are debating that the "ask" is about 1500-2000. But that's that not what you should pay. They will always ask for more. The folks here are saying don't fall for that higher price ask. Always negotiate it down. Some even got it down to R500.

Simply asking because I plan on breaking my Brazil cherry soon. And if my math is right they're asking for 1500-2000 which is 300-400 usd for one pop?? Is that about right?

[Sangnyc21]

I agree the 1500-2000 seems high, based on our experience. Between us Mark and I took five girls to the room for an hour. All top tier. Generally they asked 1500 but took 1000,1100, 1200, and 1500. There was only one that stuck to her guns on 1500 - she could tell she had Mark by the balls. But the others were all more reasonable. As always YMMV.

Simply asking because I plan on breaking my Brazil cherry soon. And if my math is right they're asking for 1500-2000 which is 300-400 usd for one pop?? Is that about right?

[Trojan22]

Alright fellows, I have been perusing through a lot of discussions, sites, etc. For the past several months and as I get closer to my trip I am asking for your input as I complete my stops, specifically with clinicas.

Below is my line up that I think will be within close proximity to Moema. They are not in particular order but need your assistance to fill in question marks?

Please correct also if I am greatly mistaken on the information I have.

1. Lotus Lounge.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Jardins.

Approximate Price: 700-800 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

2. Abobora.

Type: Actual line-up.

Area: Concelao.

Approximate Price: 400 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

Website: ?

3. Palms.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Brooklin.

Approximate Price: 800-900 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

4. Sharon Premium.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Moema.

Approximate Price: 650 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

5. Prime.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Brooklin.

Approximate Price: 600 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

6. Miruna.

Type: Line up.

Area: Villa Mariana.

Approximate Price: 600 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

7. Baronesas.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Congonhas.

Approximate Price: 700-800 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

8. Yankin.

Type: Line up.

Area: Near Moema.

Approximate Price: 400 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

9. Tangara.

Type: Line up.

Area: Ibirapuera Park area.

Approximate Price: 450 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

10. Oro.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: ?

Approximate Price: ? Reales.

Does it have a bar: ?

Website: ?

11. Taj Mahal.

Type: Line up.

Area: Villa Mariana.

Approximate Price: 600 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

Prime is not an iPad system, they have an actual lineup.

[Nounce]

But given that all the guys in the thread state that they pay way more

They probably are taking a different type of girls. It's YMMV but the reports here will get people used to the high price. I think speaking English does not matter that much in price, beauty comes first.

Also she tried to kiss me about 5 minutes into our conversation at Scandallo's restaurant, is that normal with these women?

In my experience, no, especially not in the restaurant.

[Steve 9696]

Actually during my first and only visit in Scandallo a year ago, I easily negotiated an hour upstairs down from R1000 (technically the R1000 was an answer to my question on how much she usually charges, not her quote directly to me) to R500 with a decent looking English speaking girl. But given that all the guys in the thread state that they pay way more I don't think the fact that I'm in late 20's and about 190 cm tall had much to do with it, probably was just lucky, especially as I subjectively consider my overall physical attractiveness as slightly below average.

Maybe what could be the deciding factor was that I showed her the girl from a website I spent an hour with earlier that month, who had previously won a state-wide beauty contest in one of Brazilian states, and was also charging only R500 for an incall (which I proved by showing her my whatsapp chat history with her)? After that when I wanted to show her something else, IDR exactly what but as soon as I opened instagram app she immediately told me she doesn't want me to show her any more other women LOL.

Also she tried to kiss me about 5 minutes into our conversation at Scandallo's restaurant, is that normal with these women?

I agree the 1500-2000 seems high, based on our experience. Between us Mark and I took five girls to the room for an hour. All top tier. Generally they asked 1500 but took 1000,1100, 1200, and 1500. There was only one that stuck to her guns on 1500 - she could tell she had Mark by the balls. But the others were all more reasonable. As always YMMV.

[Bang Koker]

To add on to this at Scandallo, if the girl speaks English, you are definitely paying the 1500 - 2000.

Actually during my first and only visit in Scandallo a year ago, I easily negotiated an hour upstairs down from R1000 (technically the R1000 was an answer to my question on how much she usually charges, not her quote directly to me) to R500 with a decent looking English speaking girl. But given that all the guys in the thread state that they pay way more I don't think the fact that I'm in late 20's and about 190 cm tall had much to do with it, probably was just lucky, especially as I subjectively consider my overall physical attractiveness as slightly below average.

Maybe what could be the deciding factor was that I showed her the girl from a website I spent an hour with earlier that month, who had previously won a state-wide beauty contest in one of Brazilian states, and was also charging only R500 for an incall (which I proved by showing her my whatsapp chat history with her)? After that when I wanted to show her something else, IDR exactly what but as soon as I opened instagram app she immediately told me she doesn't want me to show her any more other women LOL.

Also she tried to kiss me about 5 minutes into our conversation at Scandallo's restaurant, is that normal with these women?

[KcDark]

Moema spots are great. I prefer the Abbobora and Lushness Spa in the Moema area. Normally, hit those up early, at the opening bell. Want to be the one who gets first dibs on the girl for that day. Don't want her worn out by some of ya'll LOL As for Scandallo, 1500 - 2000 is about right. As soon as she hears the foreign accent, etc. After a few drinks, she relaxes, price always seems to be more negotiable. But Normally, I get right to the point, example, I don't like hair on the legs and booty. Some brazilian girls have hair on legs, and booty, and I just ask up front. Or if I want to put it in her ass that night, then I am up front with it. So, no surprises. And 10 out of 10 times, you end up finding exactly what you want for that day. Even tho our taste can change day by day.

To add on to this at Scandallo, if the girl speaks English, you are definitely paying the 1500 - 2000. Like some have stated in this thread, it might be a better option to chat up a girl you like through the night, see if her vibe is right, then meet her outside of the club. I've done this a couple of times and got more bang for my time and money. Of course, it depends on if you have the time or desire, to hang with a girl for an extended amount of time.

[Bang Koker]

Has anyone received the same request as this. Two days, I go I contacted one on ClubModel. She asked me to send her a photo of me and she only wanted to do incall. She didn't want to come to hotel spot. I didn't send any photo's. Heck to the no. What are your thoughts?

My first Brazilian GP wanted me to either pix her $$ for an uber or to order her an uber for an outcall to my place. I didn't even have uber installed at that time and obv I couldn't have pix as a foreigner so she asked me to send her a photo of mine. So I did, to which she replied "Você parece ser bonzinho" and we agreed that I'll just pay her cash after she arrives.

Fun fact: she left a piece of clothing at my condohotel and when she came to pick it up two days later I talked her into giving me one more quick BJ free of charge.