Rio de Janeiro Reports

[The Critic]

Then these same dicks go, use your information, have a good time and don't leave trip reports.

I know the nerve.....

[ElOsoDeAzucar]

Then these same dicks go, use your information, have a good time and don't leave trip reports.

First post ever here long time lurker. I read up on the CTG thread and had a fantastic time. Or 6 times. I have read the last 50 pages here and have even made a little map. I think I found the secret 116 don't know if I have the balls to actually go but I think I'm close. Don't know when my trip is but I did do the same for months before I went to Colombia and had a blast and never returned the favor. This time I will. Thanksto all of you for the info.

[Turgid]

......What annoys me more than asking questions is a disappearing act after asking questions. (I just wasted 15 minutes of my life to give you a thoughtful response, you dick, it wouldn't kill you to say "thank you".

Then these same dicks go, use your information, have a good time and don't leave trip reports.

[Vagabundo1]

Vagabundo hit emporio today. Super hot new morena was the choice for 100 r. Great session, all covered fucking. Eita.

[The Cane]

This form literally has GUIDE in the title and if you're not willing to help the new people out then maybe you're the one who's on the wrong board.

Yes, "Guide" is in the title isn't it? Well what does that mean? So a "Guide" can be a person or a thing that advises, suggests, leads, or shows the way to others, among other things. That's essentially what it means to "guide" another person. It certainly doesn't mean doing all or even most of the work for somebody else and / or feeling any obligation whatsoever to constantly repeat the same stuff over and over again just because somebody is a newbie seeking information. There's absolutely nothing wrong with helping a newbie, but just like with anything else in life, people are more drawn to helping others when they see that those same able bodied persons are willing to do things to help themselves.

A newbie needs to learn, and one of the best ways to do that in a place like this is to read that which has already been written which will answer many of their basic questions. Once they've done that then they can ask intelligent and informed questions that show they've done some homework and won't just be mostly a waste of time for others. I know there's a lot of information in these pages making it extremely hard to digest it all in a usable way. That's why I "guide" newbies to the Reports of Distinction that offer a more condensed source of invaluable information. It works. Reports end up in the RODs for a reason. They tend to be some of the most well-written reports available on the site full of useful details, background, history, and often of great entertainment value (also many with photos). Remember that time is one of the most valuable resources we have. My time, your time, everybody's time. So when a newbie comes to a place like this and starts asking a bunch of questions that easily show they haven't used any of their own valuable time to RTFF, then why should anybody else here surrender their valuable time to the newbie when the newbie wasn't willing spend any of their own time on themselves in order to learn? Things that carry value don't transfer for free. Sometimes you have to spend a lot to get a lot (or even a little).

People aren't going to be willing to do that (give up their valuable time to those who won't even spend any of their own time to help themselves), and occasionally just might let the newbie know, especially one who keep pestering for intel. I think that any suggestion that the forum might "die off" lest people keep entertaining the inquires of the lazy are rather disingenuous. And as someone else here noted, wouldn't it be nice if these inquiring newbies would say "thank you" when guidance is provided to them? You rarely ever see that, let alone a report giving back to the community after they showed up asking all of these questions, many of which they would have had the answers to if only they had put in some effort and some of their own time. How many of us have seen a newbie post, "And I'll be sure to report back"? Only for them to never be heard from again? Yep, famously repeated last words. Talk about over and over and over again! Newbies need to RTFF. And if that's too much to ask, then no they are the ones who are on the wrong board. After all, it's the old timers who helped to build this place and who sustain it. Not a newbie. Not until if and when they too achieve what it takes to become one of the contributing old timers.

[Steve 9696]

Based on a recent post, I just want to give my two. Cents. This board consists of two different people, one of people who live in Rio. Or visit frequently or guys that are planning their first first trip or maybe their second, and are looking for advice and help. If this board is in fact for everybody, then I think the people that are very familiar with this aspect of Rio should be a little bit more welcoming to the new members. Over the last two years I've been to Rio three times and I'm much more informed now. But when I hear these responses over and over, that everything has been posted before when there are literally hundreds of pages to go through and many posts, do not relate to a newbie or a new visitor to Rio, it can be very difficult to sit through all the post to get the basic information one needs. So I myself will be more diligent and helping others as others help me when I was a new. This form literally has GUIDEin the title and if you're not willing to help the new people out then maybe you're the one who's on the wrong board.

It think it's a balance. I am very generous with information and agree reading tens of pages is silly when you can ask. But there are guys that come on that don't even read a page or two. Like literally a question is already answered theee posts down. I mean some guys are just lazy as fuck takers and that's annoying. But yeah if you have read a few pages and don't have an answer ask away IMO.

It's funny tho because you know this whole "it's all repeated" thing is by design to keep a forum going. It would be super easy to compile an FAQ for every destination and boom we are done. No discussion needed. But then the forum would die and it's kinda fun. Fwiw I have written a book that covers almost everywhere I've been. Thailand Spain Germany Switzerland England Brazil USA and prob a couple more. I am happy to share it with like minded folks as long as it's kept private. Just hmu on message.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

People I'm speechless. There hardly any info on Joao Pessoa. I googled "Gringo Irish Bar" the way it was presented in the thread and got no hits. Now I just googled "Gringo bar" and found out that it's closed. Sure I can search Trip Adviser for where to find girls in Joao Pessoa, or I can ask the only hobbyist who actually seems like he is in the know and has an updated info on the place. And this is the response I get? Go ask the hotel if they allow working girls in? Don't bother me with your vacation plans? Damn man. Snip

I googled "gringo bar jao de pessoa" and I got this result https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gringo+bar+jao+de+pessoa&atb=v334-1&t=chromentp&ia=web, which showed the club's website info and opening hours (strangely, when I googled "gringo bar joao de pessoa", which is the correct name for the city, I got this instead https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gringo+bar+joao+de+pessoa&atb=v334-1&t=chromentp&ia=web, which doesn't have the bar's website). Don't know why your search came up with it being closed.

[Xpartan]

Are we now allowed to tell a newbie to not waste the board's time with questions they can easily find the answer to from this site or using Google?

TBH, I don't remember a single issue with RTFF, like ever. I mean from one thread to another, RTFF's are plentiful and unapologetic, LOL. To the point, sometimes, that the amount of "tough love" can feel a little bit excessive and overwhelming to newbies who never read the rules (whether not reading the rules is acceptable or not is another story, but people just don't).

I'm a little surprised you got reprimanded for something as benign as RTFF. Maybe, the admins should come up with something like RTFFPF especially for Latin America forums (guess what "PF" would stand for, kkkk).

What annoys me more than asking questions is a disappearing act after asking questions. (I just wasted 15 minutes of my life to give you a thoughtful response, you dick, it wouldn't kill you to say "thank you".

[TravelGuy79]

Based on a recent post, I just want to give my two. Cents. This board consists of two different people, one of people who live in Rio. Or visit frequently or guys that are planning their first first trip or maybe their second, and are looking for advice and help. If this board is in fact for everybody, then I think the people that are very familiar with this aspect of Rio should be a little bit more welcoming to the new members. Over the last two years I've been to Rio three times and I'm much more informed now. But when I hear these responses over and over, that everything has been posted before when there are literally hundreds of pages to go through and many posts, do not relate to a newbie or a new visitor to Rio, it can be very difficult to sit through all the post to get the basic information one needs. So I myself will be more diligent and helping others as others help me when I was a new. This form literally has GUIDEin the title and if you're not willing to help the new people out then maybe you're the one who's on the wrong board.

[Bravo]

Board Member after board member returned with "RTFF" response to the guy asking redundant questions and there were no issues. But when I gave the same freaking response 6 months ago to a guy who asked where 4 X4 was, I got a warning from the moderator! WTH? So are the rules the same for everyone or have they changed? Are we now allowed to tell a newbie to not waste the board's time with questions they can easily find the answer to from this site or using Google?

[Sperto]

People I'm speechless. There hardly any info on Joao Pessoa. I googled "Gringo Irish Bar" the way it was presented in the thread and got no hits. Now I just googled "Gringo bar" and found out that it's closed. Sure I can search Trip Adviser for where to find girls in Joao Pessoa, or I can ask the only hobbyist who actually seems like he is in the know and has an updated info on the place. And this is the response I get? Go ask the hotel if they allow working girls in? Don't bother me with your vacation plans? Damn man.

I presented it like "Gringos Bar". Google it and you find it'll open at 6 PM (takes 10 seconds to Google). From the Joo Pessoa thread, 4 post down:

João Pessoa continues to be a pleasant pearl in Nordeste. Lots of goodlooking girls in the Tambaú area. Many good bars and restaurants along the orla. Several streetwalkers looking for business. Behind the handicraft square is a boate called "Gringos Bar". I didn't go there but my impression is that the place is some kind of strip club

Of course you should ask the hotel if they allow visits. Different hotels have different rules. It's not like they have a special law in Joo Pessoa regardings visits that all hotels have to obey.

Anyway, this is the Rio de Janeiro thread.

[The Critic]

I rarely agree with Sperto on anything but this time I do. I will often do the same thing (not respond) when people send me inquiries that clearly indicate they haven't taken the time to RTFF. And if someone thinks they don't have the time to do that then why would they believe it's OK to expect others to give up their valuable time to help them? Help yourself first by RTFF so that you can ask informed questions later. I know that the old timers can come across sometimes as "not suffering fools gladly", but we get tired of answering the same questions over and over and over again when all somebody has to do is read what's already been written. Want to save time? Then read as many of the Reports of Distinction as you can. If you only do that much then you're well on your way to learning what you need to know without needing too much of the time and attention of the more seasoned members here. Mongers will help other mongers who have first helped themselves.

I have all but stopped responding as well. The same fundamental questions are asked every other week.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2797956

[Nrlmus]

I didn't answer you because most questions were not necessary to ask if you had bothered to read half a page. Where to stay, where there is action, where is Gringos bar, everything is already mentioned. Your other questions seemed thoughtless. How long you should stay is your decision and propably depends on how long holiday you have. If you can bring girls to your hotel, ask the hotel.

Your other questions in the PM: If it will be hard for you to pick up regular girls, only you knows your skills. You also had a bunch of questions about Scandalo in Sao Paulo, I've never been there but you can find all the answers in the Sao Paulo thread.

I rarely agree with Sperto on anything but this time I do. I will often do the same thing (not respond) when people send me inquiries that clearly indicate they haven't taken the time to RTFF. And if someone thinks they don't have the time to do that then why would they believe it's OK to expect others to give up their valuable time to help them? Help yourself first by RTFF so that you can ask informed questions later. I know that the old timers can come across sometimes as "not suffering fools gladly", but we get tired of answering the same questions over and over and over again when all somebody has to do is read what's already been written. Want to save time? Then read as many of the Reports of Distinction as you can. If you only do that much then you're well on your way to learning what you need to know without needing too much of the time and attention of the more seasoned members here. Mongers will help other mongers who have first helped themselves.

People I'm speechless. There hardly any info on Joao Pessoa. I googled "Gringo Irish Bar" the way it was presented in the thread and got no hits. Now I just googled "Gringo bar" and found out that it's closed. Sure I can search Trip Adviser for where to find girls in Joao Pessoa, or I can ask the only hobbyist who actually seems like he is in the know and has an updated info on the place. And this is the response I get? Go ask the hotel if they allow working girls in? Don't bother me with your vacation plans? Damn man.

As for Scandalo yes can find all the info you want about the girls that this guy met, or that guy met and how awesome it is but some more practical pointed questions I prefer to ask particular hobbyists. Be as it may, I did read. I still had some questions to ask even about Scandalo. I did. God bless Vaga and his gang.

[Spidy]

... Help yourself first by RTFF ... Want to save time? Then read as many of the Reports of Distinction as you can. If you only do that much then you're well on your way to learning what you need to know without needing too much of the time and attention of the more seasoned members here. Mongers will help other mongers who have first helped themselves.

The Reports of Distinction (or RODs) can be very informative and sometimes in the subsequent posts, discussions and opinions that follow a ROD being posted, will often present several good reads from other BMs. This inevitably gives you a balanced perspective on topics (or related topics), that were perhaps reported on, in a ROD.

Also, don't overlook the the powerful (if not sometimes quirky) ISG Search features, such as Search Thread or Advanced Search. Or if you wish to view more posts from a BM, use the "View Forum Posts" and "View Posts", if you left-click your mouse over the a BMs ("blue highlighted") name, to see recent posts by a particular BM.

[The Cane]

I didn't answer you because most questions were not necessary to ask if you had bothered to read half a page. Where to stay, where there is action, where is Gringos bar, everything is already mentioned. Your other questions seemed thoughtless. How long you should stay is your decision and propably depends on how long holiday you have. If you can bring girls to your hotel, ask the hotel.

Your other questions in the PM: If it will be hard for you to pick up regular girls, only you knows your skills. You also had a bunch of questions about Scandalo in Sao Paulo, I've never been there but you can find all the answers in the Sao Paulo thread.

I rarely agree with Sperto on anything but this time I do. I will often do the same thing (not respond) when people send me inquiries that clearly indicate they haven't taken the time to RTFF. And if someone thinks they don't have the time to do that then why would they believe it's OK to expect others to give up their valuable time to help them? Help yourself first by RTFF so that you can ask informed questions later. I know that the old timers can come across sometimes as "not suffering fools gladly", but we get tired of answering the same questions over and over and over again when all somebody has to do is read what's already been written. Want to save time? Then read as many of the Reports of Distinction as you can. If you only do that much then you're well on your way to learning what you need to know without needing too much of the time and attention of the more seasoned members here. Mongers will help other mongers who have first helped themselves.