Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Xpartan]

For a change of place? I agree, on a 7-day trip, just hitting 4 X4 and other first-tier termas makes sense. But if you're in town for a bit longer, of you're on your 30th trip to Rio, it's fun to try something different. FWIW there actually are some damn hot women in VM. But the place is so filthy I've had no desire to bone them on site.

Exactly! How the fuck can a woman take care of herself without hot water or any water at all? How many dudes have sweated over her on the same old sheets? I mean while Senor Vagabondo takes numbers at 4 x4, I collect numbers in trashy places so I can meet them outside on my own terms, LOL.

Having said that, I'm one of those guys who can only play for 10-12 days the most, but after more than a dozen times in Rio I love to mix thing up. 4 x4 is never boring to me, but I find mixing venues stimulating. Termas, prives, boates, acompanhantes, I love them all. What I rather hate is how hard it's gotten over the years to nut more than twice a day. It's a tragedy in Rio (insert a sad emoticon here).

[Combo]

I still can't wrap my head around why people go to the greatest hooker destination in the world and want to bottom feed in places like VM and 116. I rather go to 4 x 4 every night for 7 nights than step foot in VM and 116.

For a change of place? I agree, on a 7-day trip, just hitting 4 X4 and other first-tier termas makes sense. But if you're in town for a bit longer, of you're on your 30th trip to Rio, it's fun to try something different. FWIW there actually are some damn hot women in VM. But the place is so filthy I've had no desire to bone them on site.

[Vagabundo1]

Well, that's not really true.

Casa 52 has a expanded area (since two casas merged), including seating outside on the street, with as much clean air or better than in 4 x 4. Mr E, Dodochen, a bunch of people who have come into town have chilled there while the wingmen sessiioned.

And Mosaico has the outside seating on the veranda as a chill area, also with clean, fresh air.

I don't want to appear to be a VM promoter, when what I really advocate for is passing on the best lessons learned since I benefitted from them, and what I really want to point out is that Mosaico is where the best girls are. There is more ass here than I or even a dedicated gang of 5 or 10 gringos could fuck. The best ass is at Mosaico. Because that is where the real sex workers from the tier 1 termas go to party after they are done faking it with you wankers in Zona Sul.

4 x 4 is a blast. Clean facilities and the place is now smoke free which they all should be. These places like VM have filthy facilities and no relax room like the tier one places. I don't think the girls are plastic at tier one places. Some have fake tits some don't. If you're on social security then you need to save as much as you can, but other than that, a 7 to 10 day trip at 5 to 1 exchange rate is a good deal at tier one places. I can't wait to get back.

[TjBrazil]

4 x 4 is a blast. Clean facilities and the place is now smoke free which they all should be. These places like VM have filthy facilities and no relax room like the tier one places. I don't think the girls are plastic at tier one places. Some have fake tits some don't. If you're on social security then you need to save as much as you can, but other than that, a 7 to 10 day trip at 5 to 1 exchange rate is a good deal at tier one places. I can't wait to get back.

[Vagabundo1]

One other thing about 116: safety.

It is right across Av pres Vargas from DETRAN, the DMV. There are cops all over the place, even late at night. The clientele is mainly locals, including lots of military (the packs the guys bring in often have military patches from the various units at 1 Distrito Naval).

Don't bring more cash or valuables than you need to. Don't bring credit cards.

But it's pretty safe, appearances not withstanding.

I mean, I get it. You are flying in from the rich world, you stay at a top tier hotel on Av Atlantico in Copa, you expect good facilities, not a bathroom without a running faucet often.

The reason it is that way is kind of nod to Rio favela chic. That's how most of those folks live. But their women are often hot af, if not hotter than the cow you left back in your casa in 'merica, and that may be part of why. You bought into the 'merican dream, and in the pandemic, it became even more of a nightmare, so now you come and want to get some of that latina ass in Rio. Well it's always been here, and always will.

116, formerly the secret terma, was a fav of fukafmedig, who came here a few times in 2020.

It was a fave because it always had a top 10% of girls who were porn star quality, as did T31, one of the go to dark side termas, not very far away.

We chatted about it here as the secret terma, then the board members who haven't been here for 2 years, with extra time on their hands figured out it was boate 116.

Why go there?

4 x 4 has a pricing structure of 400+ for an hour, and 116 has a structure of 120 for an hour.

If you are in town for a week, maybe it doesn't make a difference..

[Vagabundo1]

116, formerly the secret terma, was a fav of fukafmedig, who came here a few times in 2020.

It was a fave because it always had a top 10% of girls who were porn star quality, as did T31, one of the go to dark side termas, not very far away.

We chatted about it here as the secret terma, then the board members who haven't been here for 2 years, with extra time on their hands figured out it was boate 116.

Why go there?

4 x 4 has a pricing structure of 400+ for an hour, and 116 has a structure of 120 for an hour.

If you are in town for a week, maybe it doesn't make a difference.

If you are in town for a month, it starts to make a difference.

The real sweet spot, IMHO, is not 116 and VM, but rather mosaico.

Mosaico after midnight is a really good option; Paris too really only gets going at or after 23 h.

4 x 4 in point of fact is not open 7 days. But I guess you mean tier 1 termas, maybe you mean solarium and Perola negra and Paris.

I always go back to bubba boy, who basically wrote that he likes the 116 class places, and that he got most of his P4 p sex at those places at 33% or 50% of the cost of the 4 x4 places.

He got numbers at 4 x 4, but got most of his sex at the prives or the "trash" casas.

You get guys coming into town, who have their faces buried in their phones because they are helpless without google translate to communicate, much less their other apps for transportation, etc. 4 x4 is your place. No smoking, better ventilation. Good wi fi so you can actually communicate, after a fashion. But my point is that it is not really communication if you are handing a cell phone back and forth.

One other thing about 116. It is not just negras, though the best negra IMHO is there. It is the morenas, the morena claras, the real latina bundinha (no bunda, and definitely not bundao) who are in 116. You can "trash" 116 for whatever reasons you have, but the best Latinas are in 116. You won't do well with them if your "game" is handing a cell phone back and forth to "talk". It is a little bit harder, and in that slight degree of difficulty, I find the art. Just as in the same way I know I could go to a zoo and shoot a big game animal, I find going to 4 x 4 boring as f. I go mainly because I like hanging out with fellow gringos.

So there it is.

Oh, and why go to VM? Because it is steps from Mosaico. You must go to Mosaico, IMHO. The best girls always come from Mosaico. That's just a simple fact. It is where cariocas go to fuck cariocas. As I said, the effing DJ from 4 x 4 went to Mosaico on Monday night after work to find a girl for him and / or his friend to fuck. Enough said.

[TjBrazil]

You can't trust most Brazilian men because number one they are jealous of us. We have plenty expendable income and they don't.

Also, they hate that we go over there and bang all their women. All they do is grab ass and we actually go to the room. I find the Brazilian women love us for that. They want to make money.

Bottom line is the more info you give them about yourself the higher chance they use it against you. Never tell them you stay at a apartment and never tell them the real hotel you're at. Give them a fake job, fake hotel and you are a Uber driver or work as a waiter. It's served me well. Robbing your apartment is easy. Pay off the doorman and they are in when you go to the beach. I met people that had their apt wiped out. Laptops phones money. Everything. And that was when the economy was better for them. Now they are starving since the pandemic.

[Gabriel071]

Saturday 00:00 report.

After a nice dinner I took an uber to 116 and it looked like they were closed. The business next door downstairs was the only one that appeared open, and the area seemed sketchy so I left.

Mosaic on the other hand was jam packed and loud! People overflowing into the streets and sidewalk. I did not like that environment so I left immediately but you can tell that this is the place to be if this is your scene.

Dry dick and blue balls for me tonight. Better hope Sunday.

[Gabriel071]

116 girls do go outside.

Excellent news. I will invest more time in 116. Both girls I saw did not seem to have cellphones so I thought maybe they live at 116.

I forgot to ask if they are open on weekends. Guess I will find out shortly as I will swing by now at Saturday 2330. Having a late dinner in.

Sa ya Teresa. Sick of the Copacabana tourist crowd on weekends.

[Gabriel071]

I still can't wrap my head around why people go to the greatest hooker destination in the world and want to bottom feed in places like VM and 116. I rather go to 4 x 4 every night for 7 nights than step foot in VM and 116.

I can answer that one.

The reason I prefer normal / everyday girls is the same realm I watch amateur porn and of PSE pornstar porn. It seems more natural, real, IOP than fake breasts, overdone makeup and stripping. Again, just a matter of taste. I feel more comfortable with everyday girls that are still good looking and good service but just don't look like they are career women. I tend to find that in mod market level both at home and abroad.

Great Joy is to be had when you found a unicorn.

Great sorrows to be had when you overpaid for plastic pussy.

I'm not looking for bottom feeders, at least not in my mind. I'm looking for "amateur" pussy.

[Vagabundo1]

116 girls do go outside.

Glad to hear VM-style talent is available at 116, and perhaps that is all the reason I need to avoid VM for now. I do like everyday women like 116, and love the price and ease of access. I just wish the offerings were cleaner. Do you think a 116 girl would be willing to travel outside of 116?

As to 4 x 4 and mosaico, they are on my list hut I can already tell it's not my style. I've been to so. Iload establishments before and never seem to have a good time no matter how attractive the women or services. Not really into PSE or OSS-style women or services. I am an oddity in our mongering culture.

My true preference, if I had it my way, is to find a civilian but that's not happening with my lack of Portuguese language. I am anchored to my phone for translation and have tried this before in other countries but it never works out well. Lesson learned for next time I come to Rio or any nation. Learn the language or at least enough to speak to a girl.

[TjBrazil]

I still can't wrap my head around why people go to the greatest hooker destination in the world and want to bottom feed in places like VM and 116. I rather go to 4 x 4 every night for 7 nights than step foot in VM and 116.

[Gabriel071]

116 v VM, 116 v 4 x 4 - good questions.

Yes, at night 116 has better selection.

My pro forma day, if I had just one day in Rio would be:

12 h30 - meet at cinelandia starbucks, go to VM (by metro, go to sao cristovao station).

In the afternoon, after maybe fucking at VM, go to centro prives.

After fucking establishing a CPF (cost per fuck) of 75 reais per half hour at VM or a prive, then go to.

116 (opens at 15 h) (no cover). 116 is basically same quality as VM, but a little better. Talent crosses over. That means the same girls who work at VM work at 116.

Then go to 4 x 4 (50 r cover). This is tier 1. Often, you will find a VM girl who is top 5% who will be in 4 x4 a week later. A negra named Ivy now at bel prazer, is a example.

After 4 x 4, then go to:.

Glad to hear VM-style talent is available at 116, and perhaps that is all the reason I need to avoid VM for now. I do like everyday women like 116, and love the price and ease of access. I just wish the offerings were cleaner. Do you think a 116 girl would be willing to travel outside of 116?

As to 4 x 4 and mosaico, they are on my list hut I can already tell it's not my style. I've been to so. Iload establishments before and never seem to have a good time no matter how attractive the women or services. Not really into PSE or OSS-style women or services. I am an oddity in our mongering culture.

My true preference, if I had it my way, is to find a civilian but that's not happening with my lack of Portuguese language. I am anchored to my phone for translation and have tried this before in other countries but it never works out well. Lesson learned for next time I come to Rio or any nation. Learn the language or at least enough to speak to a girl.

[Gabriel071]

Guess we each have our own idea of paradise.

Indeed everyone has their own tastes and they cna change like the weather. I generally prefer thin Negras with small tits and small ass. Rio may not be for me in that regard! But I am all about variety and have experienced women I would either not normally pursue or have access to back home. The HDH BBFS Independant I have in my rotation is not normally my style but she has the "Rio" branding to her body composition, and she gives me BBFS with a nice pussy. I just wish she'd lay off the spermicide or warn me about it before going down on her.

[HoyaDay]

Lots of hotties. Wasn't sure it was worth them hype when I went on Thursday but it lived up to it on Friday. They close on the weekend so all the girls ask to go out with you average charging $500 r for 1 HR.