Rio de Janeiro Reports

[TShelby]

Any word on when nightlife will reopen in Brazil? What is now the trendiest nightclub to party and see local girls (not "prostitutes" I'd like to take my friend to a good nightclub of some kind.

[Sperto]

Seriously, these are the places were poor people live.

In general yes, but also middle-class and even rich people with mansions. I'm not speaking about rich narcos, but doctors, lawyers etc. Usually living in mansions built when the favelas were newborn.

[Xpartan]

Best concise common sense advice for a first timer we have had in awhile.

To summarize:

Stay in Copacabana at a hotel, visit termas and private apartments during the week and Mabs on the weekend.

The Cane has also given excellent advice. Don't go cheap. You are only going to be in Rio a short time, live it up. If you cannot afford to at a 5:1 exchange rate, maybe you should just stay home. Guys who are in Brazil for months at a time, rightly need to consider their daily spend. That is not you. When I am there I buy my staples and canned goods at one supermarket and meats and fresh vegetables either at the farmer market or an upscale supermarket. Again, that is not you. Your time is way more important than the few dollars you might save. As for tipping, recognize people who have treated you right. Give a high five to the others with their hands out. I have been known to bring gifts to street vendors I have gotten to know and hand out money to those who clean up the beach. I support the artists and am patient and helpful to the disabled and elderly.

After you have picked through the low-hanging fruit, check out Zebra's reports. Put together a plan, take a day and have at it. Don't forget to take in some of the sites. For these you probably want to consult traditional tourist resources. If you want to visit a slum (favela) go to any major US city, don't waste your time gawking at poor people in Brazil living their lives. Enjoy your time, take good memories with you and leave good feelings towards you behind.

Totally agree, except even a newbie can do well with an Airbnb, especially those on a more limited budget. The short-term rental market is developed exceptionally well in Rio, so I wouldn't hesitate. But that's a matter of preferences of course.

As to visiting favelas, I too can't understand the appeal. Seriously, these are the places were poor people live. If I were living in Rio or staying for a few months, even then I can't see myself getting bored to the point of "touring" a slum. Some folks claim they want to "immerse" in the experience, but going on a tour when you're protected by organizers or their contracts with local bandits doesn't immerse you in anything. I guess, those curious souls should actually stay at one of the safer favelas to scratch that itch.

Location 4 x4.

It is halfway between bolsa valores / Praca XV barcas to Niteroi and Rio Branco where the investment firms are.

The target customer is the investor class, who take the late boat back to Niteroi. Not just the main port in Niteroi, but the minor ports like Inga, etc, where they have their armored, walled compounds within walking distance. Vagabundo knows these patrol routes. If you can manage it, one would prefer a twice daily boat ride, like the boss class in any port city, be I Copenhagen, Hamburg, Amsterdam, Sydney, san Francisco, san Diego, New York, Boston, Porto Allegre, Florianopolis, Salvador. Vikings always prefer boats as a venue to ride between making killings.

Taking a ferry to Niteroi is quick and pleasant. Not even mentioning the Flying Saucer Niemeyer Museum and cheap Niteroi prives.

[Bravo]

How much was it to session at 4 x4? I went, but didn't session.

I think it is 270 R for 30 minutes and 390 R for an hour for the simple cabins. The prices for the bigger suites are higher.

[IndecentPro]

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Cheers!

[Member #4729]

I enter the Mosaico nightclub address into my uber and wait for the ride. Tonight's mission: an exploration of the notorious Vila Mimosa, a monger site often discussed in these pages and famous across the world. A decision to travel to Colombia next week for the month of July has put a premium on my time here in Rio, and so all boxes must be checked with more haste than anticipated.

An uneventful ride leaves me deposited outside a shabby club, door cracked open and dimly lit red stairs. I decide to skip the club and drift across the street to the infamous are. Sotero dos Reis. I am drawn forth by some kind of magnetic pull, my mouth dry and pulse raised. The Zebra, adept at camouflage, is often mistaken for a native Brazilian, or sometimes even an Italian or Russian, so I am confident in my abilities to blend in and remain unobtrusive as long as I am not required to speak. A wingman could not be procured for this sortie, and so I must take extra precaution and remain vigilant. Nevertheless, my heart is beating fast as the street pulls me forward. I am like Willard silently floating towards Kurtz deep in the dark heart of the Cambodian jungle, I am entering a Heart of Darkness.

Improvised bars and eating stalls adorn both sides of the street, although "street" is a generous term as often times it becomes a ditch and one must scramble across fetid pools of dark and bacterial liquid of unknown origin and walk instead on the broken and jagged sidewalk. The increasingly foul odor alerts me that any skin contact with said liquid should be avoided with extreme prejudice. It is now that I begin to see the casas and girls hanging out in front of various bars and establishments. They are surprisingly quiet and subdued, casting only a leery gaze in my direction, and not the catcalsl and vulgarities that one would expect. In the first part of the street the mood is somnambulate, a blue narcotic light reflects off the street "water", and it's only as one walks further down that the music becomes audible and we arrive at the center of the Vila.

Crowds of rambunctious working class Brazilian men are drinking beer from tiny glasses and playing pool as half-naked garotas cling to their sides and talk amongst themselves. Now I can hear the music blasting from every corner, and each bar plays it's own tune, speakers distorted running at full volume- the music combining in one cacophonous sea of noise that continues to jar my nerves. I loiter around a but and decide to duck down the first alley way and penetrate further.

Like the axial procession at the temple of Karnak, the passage way is covered, and moves upwards in elevation the further one travels. To the Egyptians, this symbolized a return to the moment of creation, and a reunion with the creator God Amun, who stood on a mound of earth as the primordial waters receded. What I notice most is the pungent odor of vomit, which is pervasive and unrelenting. I gag a bit and try to acclimate. Making my way down the passage, to either side there are small rooms filled with naked and half naked women of all varieties. Sometimes there is a bar, sometimes there is a pool table, sometimes there is nothing but emptiness and a sullen girl staring out with dark and sad eyes. Sometimes the noise and smell overwhelm me to the point of disorientation. Most of the women are average or below average- poor women from the favelas trying to earn a meager wage. Surprisingly here and there a young lithe urchin can be visible, fresh and nubile, like a beautiful pearl in the vulgar, vaginal meat of a rotting oyster carcass. To the extent I would even be tempted, the sensory overload and fear of blowing my cover by speaking terrible Portuguese overwhelm, and its decided rather quickly that this will be an observation only mission.

The passage ends, but turns right and then another alley way, with similar characteristics, leads the descent back dwon towards Sotero doe Reis. I slow my walk a bit, lingering to take it all in, holding glances with some of the creatures that crawl forth to meet my gaze. It is simultaneously awful and sublime- the filth, the cacophony, the squalid poverty, the rare beauty. I imagine the gyrating and fucking that is going on behind these doors, a kind of rhythm or beat that never stops. It is the rhythm of creation, the screams and cries of pleasure echo the sounds of infants being born-the sound of life coming into existence.

Emerging back on into the street I feel as if I am reborn. My pulse slows and I begin to relax. I explore a bit further down, there are two other alleyways but they are not as enticing as this first axis, and so I stroll leisurely back up the street, still undiscovered and unnoticed by the locals. If on some rare lark one were to session here, your Portuguese would need to be on point, as there is no margin for error. Personally I would not feel comfortable enough to relax and enjoy myself. As I saunter slowly back to Mosaico to catch another uber I feel like I have seen enough to understand there is indeed a limit to my own fetish for the danger and excitement provided by sketchy surroundings. For me, Terma 502 is about as low as I want to go, although I'm not ruling out 116 entirely.

I head to Terma 31 to recon the dark side some more. My uber driver comes mere inches from running over a female pedestrian who gave no f**cks, and I am thrown violently forward as he brakes to avoid colliding with her. I exit the car in front of MV30, which I decline to investigate, and turn the corner to 31. Up the stairs and around the corner is a small room lit with smoke, green lasers, and stroboscopic light. There is a pool table, a stripper pole, one tired Garota, and two men- all of whom look at me curiously as if I am lost. I turn around and leave.

Minutes later I am safe in the warm bosom of Whiskeria 65 and after relaxing with a beer, chose "Sol" a young lady with pink hair and glasses that I had sessioned the week prior. I am rock hard as I pump her head and finally ejaculate all over her pretty smile and eyes. She looks like Mia Khalifa with small tits and a larger nose. All the stress that had built from my walk earlier is released in one fantastic orgasmic moment and I fall exhausted to the bed, embracing and kissing Sol for the remaining time.

The uber ride back to meet Miami at Mabs is near fatal as a young inexperienced driver keeps getting lost and looking at his phone. He missed the pickup a couple times- I will remember to cancel tardy drivers with more prejudice in the future- some of these guys are mere children and you are not safe with them.

Back at Mabs, we meet a beautiful loira "Barbara" who shows us her website- several pornographic videos of her with clients intrigue. She's asking too much, 500 for uncovered BJ, only cum on tits, and so no one takes her up. I run in to one of my former girlfriends who I though had traveled back to her home city but was either lying or still has yet to go. She's angry with me because I had told her I was going to Colombia and couldn't meet her one last time. She sends me some angry messages later, tries to get me jealous by asking for my friends number and if she could meet with him. Sure, whatever.

I will be leaving the country mid-next week for Colombia if all goes according to plan. I've enjoyed my stay here immensely, but the thirst for new hunting grounds is real. I'm sure I will post a wrap up report soon, but this will do for now.

Zebra Out.

[Vagabundo1]

I had Monique over for pernoite.

We did 2 pernoites for 300 each. Tuesday, 1 load. Wednesday, 5 loads. Thursday, 4 loads.

250 for food at beach each day.

Swimming in the Atlantic, priceless.

Thursday, she picked out a dupla partner, even agreed to pay half of the 200 for the other girl out of her money.

Thursday night, went and saw a morena with one of the best asses in Rio, for an hour at her local in Gloria. 250 at her place.

[Vagabundo1]

Location 4 x4.

It is halfway between bolsa valores / Praca XV barcas to Niteroi and Rio Branco where the investment firms are.

The target customer is the investor class, who take the late boat back to Niteroi. Not just the main port in Niteroi, but the minor ports like Inga, etc, where they have their armored, walled compounds within walking distance. Vagabundo knows these patrol routes. If you can manage it, one would prefer a twice daily boat ride, like the boss class in any port city, be I Copenhagen, Hamburg, Amsterdam, Sydney, san Francisco, san Diego, New York, Boston, Porto Allegre, Florianopolis, Salvador. Vikings always prefer boats as a venue to ride between making killings.

Great report and great news to hear that 4 x 4 and 65 are getting back in form.

From my experience of many nights at 4 x 4, it is hot between 5 and 10 pm with the peak time in the middle. This synchronizes with the schedules of the local businessmen. It's easy to tell the wife or girlfriend that you are going out for drinks with co-workers. Boys will be boys and Brasileiros will be Brasileiros! LOL.

[Exec Talent]

I just came back a couple of weeks ago from my first trip to Rio so I can give you some advice based on my experience. I stayed at the Marriott and had no complaints. You only get 1 guest but that's all I needed. Only had 1 chick spend a night and that's because we were both wasted LOL but it was cool. Staying in Copacabana is the way to go for a newbie. Highly recommend Ubers over taxis. There cheaper for 2 and they were safer. Seems any issues me and my brother's had came after a taxi ride so just take Ubers. It's safe to walk but keep your wits and don't let anybody get close to you. My brother phone was stolen by some tranny's who he told to leave him alone but kept trying to grab his penis and ultimately grabbed his phone. Termas 4 x4 was my favorite and I went there every single day LOL. They closed on weekends but Monday through Friday that's the spot. It's a ton of termas and prives so don't be scared to just Google them and go exploring. Termas is like a bar club sauna brothel. Prives are like extras massage joints. I prefer termas cause I'm a party guy. Also hit mabs at night which is a bar where the working girls hang. I found some good quality gems at mabs. 1 was a dime piece who took me around the favelas and I had an amazing time with. Any other questions don't hesitate to ask me.

Best concise common sense advice for a first timer we have had in awhile.

To summarize:

Stay in Copacabana at a hotel, visit termas and private apartments during the week and Mabs on the weekend.

The Cane has also given excellent advice. Don't go cheap. You are only going to be in Rio a short time, live it up. If you cannot afford to at a 5:1 exchange rate, maybe you should just stay home. Guys who are in Brazil for months at a time, rightly need to consider their daily spend. That is not you. When I am there I buy my staples and canned goods at one supermarket and meats and fresh vegetables either at the farmer market or an upscale supermarket. Again, that is not you. Your time is way more important than the few dollars you might save. As for tipping, recognize people who have treated you right. Give a high five to the others with their hands out. I have been known to bring gifts to street vendors I have gotten to know and hand out money to those who clean up the beach. I support the artists and am patient and helpful to the disabled and elderly.

After you have picked through the low-hanging fruit, check out Zebra's reports. Put together a plan, take a day and have at it. Don't forget to take in some of the sites. For these you probably want to consult traditional tourist resources. If you want to visit a slum (favela) go to any major US city, don't waste your time gawking at poor people in Brazil living their lives. Enjoy your time, take good memories with you and leave good feelings towards you behind.

[SinfullyKorean]

Last night I went to 65 and 4 x4 again with MiamiBoy. Unlike the previous night, 4 x4 actually had better quality. It was quite packed even through midnight. At some point there were even more guys than girls. Girls started to leave around 10 or 11, despite the high volume of customers present.

Unfortunately, I feel victim to the age old adage of "you snooze, you lose. " At the end of the night I was left with incredibly slim pickings and violated my rule of no average women. However, this average woman provided exemplary service in the form of BBBJ, anal, and even some tongue action where the sun don't shine. No, I did not kiss her before or after this unexpected event.

As I was taking her up to the room, MiamiBoy gave me the well deserved look of disappointment. Believe me man, I am even more disappointed with myself.

Here is to another day and hopefully better options.

Thanks for the report. I miss Brazil already. I really want to spend more time in Rio next time. I think I could've really enjoyed 4 x4. Prives were amazing, too. I thought I was sexed out. But it only took 4 days to get my craving back.

[SinfullyKorean]

I just came back a couple of weeks ago from my first trip to Rio so I can give you some advice based on my experience. I stayed at the Marriott and had no complaints. You only get 1 guest but that's all I needed. Only had 1 chick spend a night and that's because we were both wasted LOL but it was cool. Staying in Copacabana is the way to go for a newbie. Highly recommend Ubers over taxis. There cheaper for 2 and they were safer. Seems any issues me and my brother's had came after a taxi ride so just take Ubers. It's safe to walk but keep your wits and don't let anybody get close to you. My brother phone was stolen by some tranny's who he told to leave him alone but kept trying to grab his penis and ultimately grabbed his phone. Termas 4 x4 was my favorite and I went there every single day LOL. They closed on weekends but Monday through Friday that's the spot. It's a ton of termas and prives so don't be scared to just Google them and go exploring. Termas is like a bar club sauna brothel. Prives are like extras massage joints. I prefer termas cause I'm a party guy. Also hit mabs at night which is a bar where the working girls hang. I found some good quality gems at mabs. 1 was a dime piece who took me around the favelas and I had an amazing time with. Any other questions don't hesitate to ask me.

How much was it to session at 4 x4? I went, but didn't session.

[CkNice11]

I just came back a couple of weeks ago from my first trip to Rio so I can give you some advice based on my experience. I stayed at the Marriott and had no complaints. You only get 1 guest but that's all I needed. Only had 1 chick spend a night and that's because we were both wasted LOL but it was cool. Staying in Copacabana is the way to go for a newbie. Highly recommend Ubers over taxis. There cheaper for 2 and they were safer. Seems any issues me and my brother's had came after a taxi ride so just take Ubers. It's safe to walk but keep your wits and don't let anybody get close to you. My brother phone was stolen by some tranny's who he told to leave him alone but kept trying to grab his penis and ultimately grabbed his phone. Termas 4 x4 was my favorite and I went there every single day LOL. They closed on weekends but Monday through Friday that's the spot. It's a ton of termas and prives so don't be scared to just Google them and go exploring. Termas is like a bar club sauna brothel. Prives are like extras massage joints. I prefer termas cause I'm a party guy. Also hit mabs at night which is a bar where the working girls hang. I found some good quality gems at mabs. 1 was a dime piece who took me around the favelas and I had an amazing time with. Any other questions don't hesitate to ask me.

Right before Covid hit hard I made my first trip to Thailand fell in love but with Covid I've given up going back for at least another year. And based on those trip reports I picked Rio de Janeiro as my next stop. I can't wait to go and I'm hoping some of you experts can give me a little advice. I emailed several hotels that say they don't allow you to bring girls back right now because of Covid so I'm looking at staying at an Airbnb instead every host I have emailed and said it's not a problem bringing a girl back but as security and apartments going to give me a hard time anyways? I understand having a girl overnight is not as common as it is in Thailand but I really enjoy that and going to give that a shot here. Also I was thinking of staying in Copacabana since it's the most centrally located it appears and plenty of Termas around there. Do you recommend that's a good place for a first time visitor or would I be better off staying in another spot. I saw that 4 x 4 and other places of interest are located in Cernto would that be a better place to stay? Also since I really am not going to know my way around at all at first is Uber the best way? I've heard it's relatively cheap for most rides? One last question by foot I'm walking around where I find other termas and prives. And what is the difference between the different places. Sorry for the newbie questions I'm still getting familiar with the different lingo. Thanks so much for any of you guys that can help me.

[Nordico]

Interesting question. I have not, but I do recall that a Scandallo tute in Sampa asked me out of the blue if I wanted to go with her to a swing party. I was staying in Moema where she said there were some good swing clubs. I remember that she went by "Josie". Anyway, I declined as she wasn't my type.

Brazilian girls seem to like them. Many girls have asked me if I want to go, but I never went. There are at least two in Moema, probably many more.

http://www.innerclub.com.br/ and https://www.hotbar.com.br/.

[TiaVoyage25]

Last night I went to 65 and 4 x4 again with MiamiBoy. Unlike the previous night, 4 x4 actually had better quality. It was quite packed even through midnight. At some point there were even more guys than girls. Girls started to leave around 10 or 11, despite the high volume of customers present.

Unfortunately, I feel victim to the age old adage of "you snooze, you lose. " At the end of the night I was left with incredibly slim pickings and violated my rule of no average women. However, this average woman provided exemplary service in the form of BBBJ, anal, and even some tongue action where the sun don't shine. No, I did not kiss her before or after this unexpected event.

As I was taking her up to the room, MiamiBoy gave me the well deserved look of disappointment. Believe me man, I am even more disappointed with myself.

Here is to another day and hopefully better options.

[TravelGuy79]

Got Allianz for $56 that ticked all the boxes included Covid, other than trip cancellation. When I had to cancel my Rio trip, they refunded immediately, no questions asked.

If I did have to choose BTW Cabo Frio and Buzios, I'd go to Buzios. More expensive but more fun, IMHO. As to a mere idea of taking your girl to Buzios, search for "Buzios," and you'll see this topic was recently discussed.

1. For your first time, stay in Copa.

2. Below on this very page, another member mentions Portobay, which is located in Copa and guest-friendly. I had researched that hotel before and believe it is guest-friendly, too.

1. Uber is fine and cheap.

2. Most prives and arguably the best termas 4 x4 are in Centro, but getting between Copa and Centro is very easy by metro, bus, or Uber.

3. You seriously need to read A LOT to find the best termas and prives, then ask questions here or PM. Everything you want to know has been reported in Rio forums time and again.

Thanks for answering some of my questions. I'm going to take your advice and stay in Copa and Uber around. I think I'm going to book an Airbnb it seems like there are some super nice condos for under $!00 usd. I do plan on spending lots of time reading this form over the next four months. It is a wealth on information. I'm trying to prepare myself as much as possible. In Pattaya I dove right into the deep end and I'm sure I will do the same In Brazil.