Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Jefferson1993]

Day four in Rio ended up being a really aggravating one, but that's not till the end. I slept in, as normally, and found a place online called Billy the Grill. It is located at: Miguel Lemos, 56 - Loja A. Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22071-001, Brazil. It was just far enough that I thought it'd be worth the 9 R uber ride. The uber pulls up to the address and says the number of the building and points. I saw the number but didn't see any restaurant sign. I hopped out, and walked over. One look at the dude sitting on a chair behind the locked gate told me that was not the place (I asked anyway and looked dumb AF). Point is I could not find Billy the Grill in that immediate area so be aware if you're craving that one. I walked around and ended up stopping at Combinado na Brasa. I ordered chicken plate that came with a nice Pico, black beans, fries, and a lot of rice; I also ordered two cocktails and a mango drink. All in all it came out to about 73 R.

Talked to Vagabundo1 for a bit and planned to link up later this week. Stayed at the restaurant for awhile after I finished my meal and drinks.

Walked back to the place, hit an ATM, and waited for it to get a bit later so I could go see what Dolce Vida is about. It opens at 2300 so I figured I'd stop it around 0000 and it would be mostly going. I walked over and got there around 0035.50 R is the cover charge to get in, they ask and write down you name, and then give you a card. This card is actually for keeping track of the drinks and stuff you buy while you're there and then you pay it when you leave (just a tab card).

To my surprise the place was basically empty. There was literally 5 people besides the workers. Two girls with guys already dancing with them and one other woman holding a drink. I walked to the back to see the rest and that was it. The room is pretty small, I feel like it could get pretty congested quickly. One of the workers told me it normally doesn't pick up until 0200 and then again before they close at 0600. You are allowed to leave and come back without paying again. I decided to stay and had a drink.

The lone girl was good looking, tall, good size ass and tits. So I smiled and motioned her to come over, I tried dancing with her and she only really entertained it for as long as it took to exchange names and a compliment. She asked if I knew how this place worked. I wasn't sure if she meant there were rooms we'd use there (there are not) so I said no tell me. Then I realized she was just saying the girls are working and I was like I got that. We talked price. She wanted 500 R for an hour and I told her that for 500 I wanted lots of kisses with tongue, BBBJ, and cum in mouth (CIM). She said she won't do CIM and she does condom for everything and I sent her on her way. A few more girls started trickling in. Nothing special so I just avoided eye contact or made sure not to smile at them.

Then a couple of girls came in with nice fat asses that looked real. One was lighter skinned, probably a be cup, with a natural large afro. The other was dark skinned, probably an A cup with dreads that only come to probably her chin. The lighter skinned girl had the fatter ass so I smiled at her and motioned her to come over. I started dancing with her and she also only danced for a few moments (pretty awkward). She asked if it was my first time in Brazil, I said yes and she said that she is an escort. I wanted to laugh, idk why these girls don't think it's obvious. I asked how much and she said 500 R for TWO hours. I told her what I wanted (same as before) she said she won't do CIM but she does do BBBJ. I paused and thought. Then she motioned her friend to come over. The darker friend was immediately more affectionate (I believe her name is Victoria). I gave then some hugs and felt them both up a bit to confirm they were natural and asked how much for both. The light skinned girl said 600 are each for two hours, I called her out and she said 500 are. I confirmed that it was two hours starting at my place and she said yes. I agreed and we left. Dolce Vita made me pay 70 are to take them with me.

We got back to my place about 0110. I played some music and they began tweaking and stripping. Victoria was much better despite the lighter girl having a bigger ass (Victoria's is still great though). They took turns sucking me while the other kissed me. I noticed the lighter girl was making an effort to not use her tongue, at one point I told her to stick her tongue out so I could lick it (barely came out). Victoria was basically licking / sucking / eating my face which was great. We started fucking and the first issue I hadn't thought of came up. They wanted a new condom every time I switched girls (and I wanted to switch a lot). In the past I've just kept the same condom on the whole time. I blew it off at first but after about 20 minutes I was on my last condom. I told them stop this isn't going to work. The light skin girl said why. We went back and forth about it, me saying I wasn't going to get my time worth at this rate and her saying we've been dancing for so long and we were wasting time and to just fuck her. I told her to stop the time because this is a problem and at this rate they'd be leaving at 1 hour. We agreed it had only been 30 minutes since they got there. They also decided to keep the open condom for light skin (just keep putting it back on) and the last one for Victora. We kept fucking (very turned off by light skinned girl at this point). Before which, I actually pulled out my phone and started a stopwatch, light skin said that isn't the time and I replied the time is this plus the 30 minutes you've been here and and she agreed. Then she finally got me hard again (after telling me I needed me to focus while she was sucking) I motioned Victoria over and we kissed while I got sucked which got me hard.

I switched the last time to Victoria and made her cum then I came in the condom. Light skin went to the shower and Victora wiped her cum off me and started sucking my dick again, amazingly, until light skin got out of the shower then she went to clean off. They came back and started getting dressed. At this point it's about 0220. I asked if we were going to keep going. Light skin said baby no I said two hours and then I told her it had only been one. She just shook her head. I put some pants on and only gave them 500 R for doing half the work. She said they had been there for two hours and she was wrong about the time before. We argued for about 25 minutes getting louder and louder. She said she was calling the cops and said please and pointed out the window to the cops across the street. We kept arguing, and I think I offered to give them 300 each. Eventually felt myself losing my temper and pulled out the extra 500, walked them to the door, basically threw it at them and slammed the door.

So very frustrating, and even more frustrating because I really liked Victoria and would definitely session with her alone again and again.

Thoughts I have right now:

- IDK if dancing at clubs with the girls is weird here or if it was just two I talk to (I think it is just them).

- Start a timer everyone see when they get there and if you need to pause for any reason make it clear.

- if you don't have a fat stack of condoms, talk about how they want to do it (I had 4 or 5).

- Another frustrating thing was when I was fucking one the other would try to be off dancing or just away until I motioned them over. I personally want dual contact the entire time and need to make that clear.

- Be immediately weary if someone promises you two hours. These hoes can't hang that long with back to back sessions.

- Maybe I should have just given the money in the beginning, counted it as a loss, and kept the relationship with Victoria (wonder if I should approach if I see her again).

- Those bodies are the ones I'm looking for out here, and it was a good time for what I had. I just wanted my second round, and so I'm less that satisfied.

[Jefferson1993]

Day 3 was a very slow day for me. It was Sunday and most of the spots are closed. Woke up and there was a whole farmers / food market outside my window set up in the few hours I was asleep! I'm across from the Square Serzedelo Corra and the entire block was surrounded with stands selling everything from raw fish, whole raw chickens, and pork to flowers, fresh fruit, and pastries. I walked through that for awhile and had some pastries.

They also close down half of the main road in front of the beach so people can run, bike, Rollerblade, and just be on it. I'm not sure if this is an every Sunday thing or if something special was going on yesterday, but it was pretty cool. I had lunch at Rondinella with a water and two cocktails for about 80 are.

Then one of the dudes I met the night before hit me up and said he was at Mabs looking around, I thought is was pretty early for anyone to be there. When I got there he was talking to this bombshell, light skinned, blonde girl. She ended up calling another girl, bombshell, tan with brown hair for another guy that was there that was leaving that night. The blonde charged 500 are for the hour plus uber unless he came to her place. I don't know how much the brunette charged. She was probably worth it (even though I'm sure her tits were fake). They walked back to her place for the good time. The other guy took the brunette upstairs.

I walked the busy street and just took in the sights and took the time to reach out to more girls on BarraVips. Most messaged back, it seems like a few have automatic messages sent up to send you rates when you message them. Most are 500 are some are 400 are, most charge extra for anal or don't do it. One girl, Jade, had the audacity to charge 700 are an hour with no extras!

So today was slow, mostly messages and chilling in the market or the beach. Also found a nice cigar shop just down the same street Mabs is on (Gullo Tabacaria Copacabana). Not a huge smoker but I'll probably grab some before I leave. I did get messaged by Bruna from the night before so that was a quick easy one.

[Jefferson1993]

Thank you, I really appreciate that. So far I think your plan will be spot on!

These are great reports. I have never been to Rio, but it is in my plans for the fall. From all the reading I have done, it looks like maybe the Hilton Copa, with visits to MAB, Eden Spa, Dolce Vita, Termas TMC, and the centro daytime massage places will be my plan. Following your posts closely! Thanks!

[WyattEarp]

I think the specific note of someone's skin color to be characterized as african american is a bit much since it's really the cultural that makes you more part of a group. Like previously mentioned of how latin kids who were born and lived a few years in their respective country and moved to the US and completely assimilated to the western way of life. They have latin / south american citizenships, brown skin yet they are distinctly westernized and you'd could easy spot the difference between the two under a minute. I know many white Christian missionaries who have moved to latin / south america and have raised a white family who are more hispanic than hispanics in the US.

The term african american originated during the slave trade when african people with african names that spoke african languages were shipped out to the americans and that's why it's so odd when people use it to define black americans as that link has long since gone and been replaced with anglo names and english speaking people.

In the usage I understand here in the United States, African-American is used like Irish-American or Italian-American. They are simply ethnicities. The same is true with Latin-American. Jennifer Lopez is Latin-American.

Not to get all historically correct, but I don't think slaves were deemed "Americans" by the people and States holding them in slavery. I don't even think there children were considered true Americans.

[Bearsi]

It is interesting. Some of my friends who are first generation Latin are basically white just because of how they grew up. Some of them actually tried so hard to assimilate because they didn't want / like the attention and didn't want to get made fun of growing up. Now they look back and wish they wouldn't have cared as much and and show a lot of pride for their heritage. The one I'm talking about specifically was even born there and came to the US and a small child.

I knew a few who's parents actively didn't speak to them in Spanish so they would learn English as their primary language. And yea you would be made fun of, I recalled kids being sent to ESOL classes and treated a bit different. Their parents wanted them to get the best education they never had and ESOL classes really hampered that so I can understand their reasoning. It sucks because knowing spanish is really key and vital in a few states and will be more in demand as they hispanic population in the US keeps growing.

I actually went out with a peruvian girl who immigrated here when she was 8 and now she is 24 and is a "No Sabo" kid which is a term for latin kids who don't know any spanish. She actually had a valley girl accent which made it even more funny.

It's the taco bell effect. It keeps some elements of the roots but has been completely molded to western standards.

I guess the more appropriate term would be Anglicisation but layman's term of gringo by the brazilian works too as they don't pussyfoot around as you can tell from the lyrics from their funk music.

Don't know why people would be offended to be called gringo when they have a anglo sounding name and speaks the king's english.

African American means something very particular. It's an ethnic group originating in the United States with sub-Saharan Africa (black) ancestry. That excludes both Usain Bolt and Elon Musk. Bolt is not from the United States, and neither is Musk originally, who also doesn't have sub-Saharan Africa (black) ancestry (he was born of white South African parents). Therefore neither of them is "African American."

I think the specific note of someone's skin color to be characterized as african american is a bit much since it's really the cultural that makes you more part of a group. Like previously mentioned of how latin kids who were born and lived a few years in their respective country and moved to the US and completely assimilated to the western way of life. They have latin / south american citizenships, brown skin yet they are distinctly westernized and you'd could easy spot the difference between the two under a minute. I know many white Christian missionaries who have moved to latin / south america and have raised a white family who are more hispanic than hispanics in the US.

The term african american originated during the slave trade when african people with african names that spoke african languages were shipped out to the americans and that's why it's so odd when people use it to define black americans as that link has long since gone and been replaced with anglo names and english speaking people.

[ShinyCrazy]

Yesterday was my second day in Rio.

These are great reports. I have never been to Rio, but it is in my plans for the fall. From all the reading I have done, it looks like maybe the Hilton Copa, with visits to MAB, Eden Spa, Dolce Vita, Termas TMC, and the centro daytime massage places will be my plan. Following your posts closely! Thanks!

[Jefferson1993]

Yesterday was my second day in Rio. Slept in pretty hard and caught a ride to Gringo Cafe for breakfast (I know I know, but I wanted a large breakfast, okay). I sat there for awhile after finishing my food then walked the blocks surrounding it. There were a lot of people and music on the street. Probably because it was Saturday. After that I looked on here again and saw a post awhile back from another regular member that talked about Massagem Tijuca that is 160 are / HR if you pay in cash. His post also said that girls here like to eat ass, figured that was enough of a reason for me so I caught a right out there.

Massagem Tijuca is located Avenida Paula Sousa 214, Maracan. Took about 30 minutes to drive there from Copa and was about 12 are for the uber (not bad IMO). I also enjoyed the drive. They have a big solid metal gate, ring the bell and they let you in. They have a decent room for the demonstration. The girls come in one by one and introduce themselves and give you kisses on the cheek. Some of them also said where they were from. They might have said something else that I missed.

I ended up choosing Lola. An average height, bronze skin woman with (as it turns out) fake tits (which is a bummer for me). I was taken to the room, pretty nice as the shower was in the room as opposed to outside it like at Eden Spa. We washed off quickly and then got after it. She gave some pretty good head, loved licking the balls and kept going lower and lower each time. She wouldn't let me put her legs on my shoulders or let me hold her legs up at all to get in deeper which sucked. I ended up getting it from behind and finishing there. We cleaned off again and talked some. She was telling me to be careful when I'm around and watch my glass when I'm out. She asked what I wanted to do and I told her I wanted round two to finish out my hour. She was surprised and said that Brazilian guys normally can't go two rounds. She said she wanted my milk for dessert and I thought, finally! My dumbass, however, thought we would fuck then I would finish in her mouth. Then I realized this chick thought her head would be enough to get me off the second time. She was very determined, and almost made it but didn't. I told her to let me fuck then finish in her mouth but then she said we are out of time, then the phone rang. Very disappointing! As I was leaving another girl showed interest in me, she wasn't really my type but I said I'd be back.

Biggest difference between Massagem Tijuca and Eden Spa:

- Massagem Tijuca is has nicer facilities overall IMHO.

- The shower in room at Massagem Tijuca is a big plus so you can always have an eye on your stuff.

- The girls at MT seemed to take their time a little more during the demonstration. Longer holds, better cheek kisses.

- Lola at MT was about CIM when my girl from Eden checked the condom at every position change. But that can just be the girl not the place.

After MT I got dinner at Joaquina. Pretty good food, live music, and the service was great. I sat there till after 2300 and walked over to Mabs to see what it was all about. I'm a fan, you get to just watch TV then glance at the girls all lined up next to the screen and call one over if you like. I sat with two guys who are leaving today, one got his wallet stolen when some girl was dancing on him. Very shitty. Ended up taking a light brown, thin, dark haired, girl with a nice little ass named Bruna back to the room. She gave good kisses and took it all for a bit at least. Great riding skills forward and reverse. It was 300 are for the hour, which is fine. I figured I'd have to shoot girls down to get that price in Copa.

Wanted to check out Dolce Vita after but stayed in. It was around 0230 at this point.

Second day was fun, this trying to link up with others down here.

[Jefferson1993]

It is interesting. Some of my friends who are first generation Latin are basically white just because of how they grew up. Some of them actually tried so hard to assimilate because they didn't want / like the attention and didn't want to get made fun of growing up. Now they look back and wish they wouldn't have cared as much and and show a lot of pride for their heritage. The one I'm talking about specifically was even born there and came to the US and a small child.

As someone of Latin descent, looks the part and speaks fluent Spanish but was born and raised in the good ol' USA I always joke around with Latin Americans that I am a gringo because they always figure it out after a few minutes of talking and it's true.

It's purely a cultural thing. I grew up with McDonald's, Charlie Brown, Norman Rockwell, PBS, watching 9/11 live, Saturday morning cartoons and the like while those born south of the border grew up with a completely different cultural Perspective.

It's actually interesting seeing the 1st generation Latin kids in the USA not being able to speak Spanish.

A lot of them have never even seen their parents home country.

Didn't even take a generation to get the new kids on the block westernized or become gringos as many Latin people would say.

Makes me think how the word African American is really arbitrary since the cultural link between a black person born in Africa and one born in the US has long since been gone.

Also the fact that Elon Musk would fall under that category while usain bolt would not.

[The Cane]

Also the fact that Elon Musk would fall under that category while usain bolt would not.

African American means something very particular. It's an ethnic group originating in the United States with sub-Saharan Africa (black) ancestry. That excludes both Usain Bolt and Elon Musk. Bolt is not from the United States, and neither is Musk originally, who also doesn't have sub-Saharan Africa (black) ancestry (he was born of white South African parents). Therefore neither of them is "African American."

[Bearsi]

All these posts about the terminology that Brasilians use to describe people by their color reminded me about how angry I would get when they described me.

When I first strated going to Brasil in the mid 90's, I remember being EXTREMELY offended at being called a "Gringo" by the Brasilians. There were multiple times I would spin around and yell "I am not a fucking Gringo!! Don't call me that!" Mentally, I had associated the word Gringo with the people who "Who murdered indigenous people, raped their women, enslaved their men and pillaged their resources!" I would say "My people didn't do those things to you, don't ever call me a gringo, that's offensive!" and the brasilians would look at me like I had 3 heads and try to explain what the word meant to them.

No matter how many times they tried to explain to me that Gringo didn't mean the same thing to them as the historical reference that it meant in the US, I wasn't trying to hear it. It took a much older American who saw me flip out one afternoon to pull me to the side and explain that it didn't matter if I was Japanese or French, I was still a gringo to the Brasilians because I wasn't from Brasil. Once I let me anger subside and actually fucking listened, I finally understood the significance of the word.

I have seen this scenario play out countless times where a black men will get angry and say "don't call me a gringo" to a Brasilian and now I am the old guy who explain the difference between their definition of the word and ours. LOL! What's strange is that even though I mentally understand what the term means, I still feel a twinge of uneasiness every time I am called that and have to remind myself to not get upset. (Takes a long time for an old dog to learn new tricks).

As someone of Latin descent, looks the part and speaks fluent Spanish but was born and raised in the good ol' USA I always joke around with Latin Americans that I am a gringo because they always figure it out after a few minutes of talking and it's true.

It's purely a cultural thing. I grew up with McDonald's, Charlie Brown, Norman Rockwell, PBS, watching 9/11 live, Saturday morning cartoons and the like while those born south of the border grew up with a completely different cultural Perspective.

It's actually interesting seeing the 1st generation Latin kids in the USA not being able to speak Spanish.

A lot of them have never even seen their parents home country.

Didn't even take a generation to get the new kids on the block westernized or become gringos as many Latin people would say.

Makes me think how the word African American is really arbitrary since the cultural link between a black person born in Africa and one born in the US has long since been gone.

Also the fact that Elon Musk would fall under that category while usain bolt would not.

[Jefferson1993]

Thank you, I appreciate the info.

Club Vitrinni or Club All In. They are both located in Barra the Tijuca. (And before you ask, NO, it is not a place to pick up working girls there. This is a spot for Patricinhas and Playboys.

[Bravo]

Not everything I wanted (I'm a huge CIM type of guy) but not mad at how I spent 200 are. I'm sure I'll hit Eden Spa a good amount on this trip. Trying to find more places too. A night / dance club would be nice too.

Club Vitrinni or Club All In. They are both located in Barra the Tijuca. (And before you ask, NO, it is not a place to pick up working girls there. This is a spot for Patricinhas and Playboys.

[Jefferson1993]

First night in Rio, got a nice Airbnb in Copa about one block off the beach. Got settled and walked over to Novo for some food. Got a nice Brazilian steak plate and a very good mojito. Stopped by the market to grab some stuff, shot off a few messages to girls on Barravips. One quoted me 500 are for one hour, 600 if she came to me plus uber (ignored that) and another quoted me 400 are for one hour, didn't do it, but did think about it. I wonder what she'll do?

Ended up walking to Eden Spa (basically around the corner from my Airbnb). Got up to the fourth floor and sat down, three girls came one at a time for a demonstration so I could choose (just a quick walk in, say Hi, kiss on the cheek, walk out). Ended up choosing a tall and bronze skinned girl with a nice, natural, ass and smaller, natural, pierced breasts (think her name was Samantha).

Haha I thought it'd start as a massage and go to sex, but it was straight to kissing and oral. She kissed with tongue to start out, I gave oral, and she did with no condom. Condom for sex was hard line for her. Finish then she offers me the shower and a towel. I pick up my pants to take with me, she says "no you can leave that just wear the towel. " I'm like, please, no way I'm leaving my cash / wallet in this room. Did feel a little on the spot though, but can't trust anyone out here. After the shower we go again, this time I notice she isn't barely using tongue to kiss and doesn't go down again. We finish, I wash off again, play with her ass some more and head out.

Not everything I wanted (I'm a huge CIM type of guy) but not mad at how I spent 200 are. I'm sure I'll hit Eden Spa a good amount on this trip. Trying to find more places too. A night / dance club would be nice too.

[Pahllus Maximus]

From just shy of 5. 5 last year to 4. 8 and it's still undervalued (0. 1818:0. 208).

I'm pretty pleased, sitting on about currency 13% gain alone in less than a year and BR real estate prices have gone up about another 20% (at the higher end) as people figure out what value this place is (medical, sex, food, beaches) compared to USA and Europe.

But what I like the most are the beautiful women who are mostly fun and kiss, and so many of every color and age group for about $20 depending upon time etc, a place where CIM or anal are considered normal. A great subway. Tapping into the middle classes here (who speak English) has be great, it opened up many new experiences and some actual friends. It makes for a real life rather than endless mongering that gets boring. Most laugh at my succession 25 year younger girlfriends. It took a long time to source good organic vegetables and meat and tap into the farmers direct network, but it's also fun discovering and exploring. The girls love when I have them chop veges and I a cook for a romantic dinner. It's best to buy a half animal in primals and freeze. Big Ag is a problem in BR and I refuse to contribute to the destruction of the Amazon. Life is great, I really like the relaxed attitude to sexuality (as it should be) as a normal and healthy, unlike the fucked up USA. Progress and order indeed!

[Sperto]

Camila, huge rack, cute, no kids, 20 year old... I am told in the ISGer clan that Sperto liked her too, and since we have fucked many of the same girls, like Maya, a fave over at darkroom, I thought I would send out a cyber high five and smile at the memory.

I hope you had a good time with Camila. "Camila" is a common GP name. I think I recall a Camilla from 13: e de Maio the last years that was good. Colombiana? However, nothing compared to "fulana" in Tijuca. Every time I went to Tijuca and saw her in the presentation I I got got a hard on. Beautiful, 18 years, slim and giant natural tits. A shame I had to give up allt the Tijuca privées. Don't ask why. They were the best in Rio.