These last few posts are killing my MOJO. I will be in Rio for the first time in December for two weeks and have been looking forward to it. Now with these last few posts about the the 9's and 10's not being accessible I'm worried fellas.
Right now from reading through the thread (thanks for all the reports).
4 x4.
Dark room.
Dolce Vita.
Barravip.
These are the places I see most and plan to attend or partake in.
Any other suggestions that I may be missing out on?
I will be there for 2 weeks! I definitely want quality ladies.
I welcome your recommendations and while I'm not in the business of raising the prices I am not too concerned about budget.
Thank you in advance.
Feel free to DM me.
And if anyone wants to connect while I'm over there I'm all for it I arrive Dec 8th.
Don't get us wrong. There are plenty of quality working girls in Rio which is why a lot of us have travelled here often and the city itself is fantastic. The only thing is that there are also a lot of really hot women in Rio. I think many of us are just frustrated that these really hot women aren't in the P4 P market. If you are looking for really hot working girls and are not price sensitive, you may want to consider Sao Paulo. More attractive working girls often head there since it is a richer business-oriented city. Personally, I find the atmosphere in Sao Paulo less fun and relaxing but I have to admit that due to the higher wealth and larger size, there is a much higher likelihood you finding top talent there.
Look, you need to manage your expectations. Your friendly Rio terma is not an FKK. Yes, they're small and dingy, they're fire hazard (the old 4 x4 was razed by fire a few years back and people died). In addition, you won't find 9 and 10's there, although 7 and 8 are possible.
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It is nuts to expect a Terma in Rio to look like an FKK. We're talking Germany vs Brazil, 2 different world.
However, from an entertaining perspective, termas are close to an FKK experience. For more luxury, I suggest you visit Scandallo in Sao Paulo.
And that is pretty much what makes people classify them as 9 and 10. If the same chick was in a privee or 4 x 4 who would classify her as a 9 or 10? Was she a 9 or 10 before the expensive lifestyle? I am about to ask all my Brazilian friends where all the 9's and 10's hang outso they can laugh at me. They are going to be like what the hell are you talking about? Where do the 9's and 10's go in your city?
I'm laughing at you and I don't even know you. You seem to miss the essence of what I was saying. Everybody has different tastes so to delve in to who determines who is a 9 or 10 is not pertinent. What is relevant is whatever meets any individual's criteria is in Rio. Are they in abundance? I would say no, but are they in sufficient quantity yes, again alot depends on what areas one goes to. Example it is reasonable to find better looking women in Barra vs. Centro? All depends on your criteria (and yes I know I can find exactly what I want in Barra).
These last few posts are killing my MOJO. I will be in Rio for the first time in December for two weeks and have been looking forward to it. Now with these last few posts about the the 9's and 10's not being accessible I'm worried fellas.
Right now from reading through the thread (thanks for all the reports).
4 x4.
Dark room.
Dolce Vita.
Barravip.
These are the places I see most and plan to attend or partake in.
Any other suggestions that I may be missing out on?
I will be there for 2 weeks! I definitely want quality ladies.
I welcome your recommendations and while I'm not in the business of raising the prices I am not too concerned about budget.
Thank you in advance.
Feel free to DM me.
And if anyone wants to connect while I'm over there I'm all for it I arrive Dec 8th.
but you must ask to know where to go where the 9's and 10's go.
The main thing to understand is these girls like to have fun and be seen. They like luxury goods, and high-end venues, accommodations, and travel. They feel entitled to the good life and "Money is always on their mind. ".
And that is pretty much what makes people classify them as 9 and 10. If the same chick was in a privee or 4 x 4 who would classify her as a 9 or 10? Was she a 9 or 10 before the expensive lifestyle? I am about to ask all my Brazilian friends where all the 9's and 10's hang out so they can laugh at me. They are going to be like what the hell are you talking about? Where do the 9's and 10's go in your city?
The truth is, if you are looking for high quality girls, 9's and 10's, you won't find them at termas or brothels or similar venues. If you think you can find them there, you are delusional. Scandallo in Sao Paulo wold be your best bet if you can afford it. Rio is a beautiful city and got the best looking girls I have ever seen in my life, but they are either non pros or high end escorts that you won't find online or working termas. Take a walk along the beach in Ipanema on Sunday afternoon and you will see for yourself. Or go party in Leblon on the weekends. Tons of smoking hot girls there. But you have to speak Porto, look presentable, have game and coin in order to beat competition. Local connections always help. Friends, friends of friends, etc. If you are in town just for a few days, most likely you will not be able to pull this off. This is a long term game, and you got to live there for extended periods of time to succeed. Most of the guys coming to Rio have limited time and want a quick fuck, or best bang for a buck, this is why they stick to cheap venues. But the real quality is not there. You have to put in effort and time to get the best looking girls.
This post is so perfectly on point. And these top girls aren't easy to get even if you know them. Brazil isn't in the same income bucket as SEA and Colombia. 9's and 10's can easily find local guys who will spoil them since many Brazillians have money. Brazillian guys are also legendary for their confidence and attractiveness. The type of person who can score 9's and 10's in Brazil can often score the same in their home country. Of course I believe a 9 or 10 in Brazil is way hotter than a 9 or 10 just about anywhere else. Even Scandello can't pull in the top 10% of Brasileiras. That being said, Brazil offers some great deals on 6's to 8's with great service quality including tons of BBBJ, DFK and even BBFS.
I just got in Friday and I'm staying at the Pestana Hotel. Convenient location right on Copacabana Beach. It's pretty ideal, and the hotel has exceeded my expectations after reading many spotty reviews online. On my first night in town I was keen on making my pilgrimage to 4 x4 after all that I've read about it in this forum. With my only reference point to compare it to being FKK Artemis in Berlin, I got to say I was disappointed and felt like it wasn't nearly as nice as I was expecting. Artemis is more spacious, with a full on swimming pool and spa and cinema. By comparison 4 x4 felt dingy, tight quarters, and the dynamic of having everyone confined in the small nightclub didn't feel as stimulating as exploring the maze of rooms at Artemis looking for talent.
After spending the whole day seeing all of the beauty on the streets of Rio, I didn't feel like I came across any 9's or 10's in the room as I had hoped. After seeing so many girls with enhancements, it pushed me to choose the most natural looking girl for an hour session. I believe her name was Mirela, she had a beautiful tan complexion, little natural be-cup breasts, and a cute ass. The room left much to be desired pretty small and minimal. The mattress was about as hard and uncomfortable as I've ever felt and the sheet felt like plastic and didn't stay on. And the condoms they have are tight, so if you're on the larger side, you may want to bring your own. The service was fine, she was lovely and we exchanged Whatsapp at the end of the session. But I was just really expecting a better experience overall. (r $60 entrance + are $420 1-hour session + 2 beers at are $22 each came out to are $524. Which equals approximately $100 usd, so fine, I won't complain too much.).
Saturday I was hoping to make it to Dark Room for the famous Saturday Special I've read about, but unfortunately got caught up in meetings that didn't let out until after 3 pm. So by that time everything was closed. Caught a great celebration in the streets after Flamengo won the Copa Libertadores final. And then ended up at another awesome street party in Lapa...
This is my experience too. I found girls that is 8 to 10 on barravips, maybe you can try your luck.
Someone please show him around! I can't have this as a Rio report a couple of weeks before my first visit!
I definitely hope your trip gets better boss!
LOL, what he said is what I felt too, its true, coming from SP to Rio, those places looks dingy, dirty and tight. Only Perola Negra is classier. Look wise, 4 x 4 have better looking girl, then again coming from SP, they are lower rate.
You will find 8-10 on Barravips, but don't expect to pay cheap prices 450 to 600 is a norm.
The truth is, if you are looking for high quality girls, 9's and 10's, you won't find them at termas or brothels or similar venues. If you think you can find them there, you are delusional. Scandallo in Sao Paulo wold be your best bet if you can afford it. Rio is a beautiful city and got the best looking girls I have ever seen in my life, but they are either non pros or high end escorts that you won't find online or working termas. Take a walk along the beach in Ipanema on Sunday afternoon and you will see for yourself. Or go party in Leblon on the weekends. Tons of smoking hot girls there. But you have to speak Porto, look presentable, have game and coin in order to beat competition. Local connections always help. Friends, friends of friends, etc. If you are in town just for a few days, most likely you will not be able to pull this off. This is a long term game, and you got to live there for extended periods of time to succeed. Most of the guys coming to Rio have limited time and want a quick fuck, or best bang for a buck, this is why they stick to cheap venues. But the real quality is not there. You have to put in effort and time to get the best looking girls.
Good observations of MiamiBoy1, giving good advice.
I would like to add is to ask quality girls (Pro's and Non-Pros / Civilians) where they like to party and hang out (after work is done) there is probably some venues and regular club (s) (not Dolce Vita) where they frequent. That venue could be a good playground, but you must ask to know where to go where the 9's and 10's go. Also knowing Portuguese can immensely change the calculus on getting what you want. To get the quality girls you must be where they are at. And you can't be afraid to strike up a conversation or at least play the unknowing tourist seeking "nightlife" or general information.
Now older gents may not like to go to Clubs so for that group Lounges and Restaurants / Bars, chance encounters, heavy flirting will get what you want.
The main thing to understand is these girls like to have fun and be seen. They like luxury goods, and high-end venues, accommodations, and travel. They feel entitled to the good life and "Money is always on their mind. ".
I just got in Friday and I'm staying at the Pestana Hotel. Convenient location right on Copacabana Beach. It's pretty ideal, and the hotel has exceeded my expectations after reading many spotty reviews online. On my first night in town I was keen on making my pilgrimage to 4 x4 after all that I've read about it in this forum. With my only reference point to compare it to being FKK Artemis in Berlin, I got to say I was disappointed and felt like it wasn't nearly as nice as I was expecting. Artemis is more spacious, with a full on swimming pool and spa and cinema. By comparison 4 x4 felt dingy, tight quarters, and the dynamic of having everyone confined in the small nightclub didn't feel as stimulating as exploring the maze of rooms at Artemis looking for talent.
After spending the whole day seeing all of the beauty on the streets of Rio, I didn't feel like I came across any 9's or 10's in the room as I had hoped.
Look, you need to manage your expectations. Your friendly Rio terma is not an FKK. Yes, they're small and dingy, they're fire hazard (the old 4 x4 was razed by fire a few years back and people died). In addition, you won't find 9 and 10's there, although 7 and 8 are possible.
When we rave about Brazilian girls, it doesn't mean that all Brasileiras are gorgeous porn stars. It's quite possible to have a boring fuck in Rio, but your chance to become a victim of a lousy tourist fuck is slimmer than anywhere else in the world.
After spending the whole day seeing all of the beauty on the streets of Rio, I didn't feel like I came across any 9's or 10's in the room as I had hoped.
The truth is, if you are looking for high quality girls, 9's and 10's, you won't find them at termas or brothels or similar venues. If you think you can find them there, you are delusional. Scandallo in Sao Paulo wold be your best bet if you can afford it. Rio is a beautiful city and got the best looking girls I have ever seen in my life, but they are either non pros or high end escorts that you won't find online or working termas. Take a walk along the beach in Ipanema on Sunday afternoon and you will see for yourself. Or go party in Leblon on the weekends. Tons of smoking hot girls there. But you have to speak Porto, look presentable, have game and coin in order to beat competition. Local connections always help. Friends, friends of friends, etc. If you are in town just for a few days, most likely you will not be able to pull this off. This is a long term game, and you got to live there for extended periods of time to succeed. Most of the guys coming to Rio have limited time and want a quick fuck, or best bang for a buck, this is why they stick to cheap venues. But the real quality is not there. You have to put in effort and time to get the best looking girls.
Went to Emporio with Vagabundo on Saturday. Girl were hot and I really like their matching uniforms. Vagabundo took a black girl and I took Stella. She was ok, kind of mechanical and no DFK. She gave some really good head though. Can't complain too much for 90 R for 30 minutes.
Went to Dark Room on Monday at around noon. Only two black girls there. Nothing my interest. Pain in the ass to register at the front desk though as there was a long line.
Met with Izzy Bellini from Gparena. I remember sessioning with her last time I was in rio and she works out of the same place. She is a big woman. Not really fat but just tall and with a proportionally large body. I remember my last session being much better. She gave LFK and we fucked in a couple of positions. Maybe it was because it was late or maybe she has just been working in this business for too long but I felt like she wasn't that into it. Paid 250 R for the hour.
I have a session scheduled with Giovanna Branca tomorrow. I vaguely remember either sessioning with her or trying to set up a session with her last time I was here. She is another one of the highly rated gparena girls. Will post after the session.
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I had to double check when I read this, because I thought I had had a Binance account for a couple of years now. I just have never put anything in it. I am a US citizen.
I just got in Friday and I'm staying at the Pestana Hotel. Convenient location right on Copacabana Beach. It's pretty ideal, and the hotel has exceeded my expectations after reading many spotty reviews online. On my first night in town I was keen on making my pilgrimage to 4 x4 after all that I've read about it in this forum. With my only reference point to compare it to being FKK Artemis in Berlin, I got to say I was disappointed and felt like it wasn't nearly as nice as I was expecting. Artemis is more spacious, with a full on swimming pool and spa and cinema. By comparison 4 x4 felt dingy, tight quarters, and the dynamic of having everyone confined in the small nightclub didn't feel as stimulating as exploring the maze of rooms at Artemis looking for talent.
After spending the whole day seeing all of the beauty on the streets of Rio, I didn't feel like I came across any 9's or 10's in the room as I had hoped. After seeing so many girls with enhancements, it pushed me to choose the most natural looking girl for an hour session. I believe her name was Mirela, she had a beautiful tan complexion, little natural be-cup breasts, and a cute ass. The room left much to be desired pretty small and minimal. The mattress was about as hard and uncomfortable as I've ever felt and the sheet felt like plastic and didn't stay on. And the condoms they have are tight, so if you're on the larger side, you may want to bring your own. The service was fine, she was lovely and we exchanged Whatsapp at the end of the session. But I was just really expecting a better experience overall. (r $60 entrance + are $420 1-hour session + 2 beers at are $22 each came out to are $524. Which equals approximately $100 usd, so fine, I won't complain too much.).
Saturday I was hoping to make it to Dark Room for the famous Saturday Special I've read about, but unfortunately got caught up in meetings that didn't let out until after 3 pm. So by that time everything was closed. Caught a great celebration in the streets after Flamengo won the Copa Libertadores final. And then ended up at another awesome street party in Lapa. After only spending my time around Copacabana, Ipanema, and Leblon, being in Lapa was really eye-opening. The architecture of old Rio is gorgeous, and the vibe was so so different with much more diversity and creativity in the streets.
Today, Sunday, was Election Day. Very tense, but interesting to be here nonetheless. Everywhere from my hotel, to the bank around the corner where I went to use the ATM were turned into voting stations. The majority of the people around Rio had Lula stickers on, occasionally chanting his name in the street. With most (all?) mongering establishments closed on Sunday and me not wanting to go two back-to-back days not having a session, so I took to gparena, the local ads and review site. I had previously gone through the entire past year of reviews (largely thanks to the google translate feature on the chrome browser) and bookmarked my top 10 providers. Most of the girls don't work on the weekends, so I just started going down my list messaging each of them on Whatsapp to see who would respond and be open to meeting. I messaged 7 girls before finally locking in a date. For context, most of the girls on gparena charge between are $170 to are $200 per hour. The only one that responded asked for are $300 plus are $50 for uber round trip to meet at my hotel. That's a good reason to work on Sundays, cause I was left with no other options. Again realizing that are $350 comes out to about $70 usd, it was still a much better deal than anything I'd ever find at home.
She arrived in 30 min. Pastena Hotel is GF, they just called up to my room and sent her up no problem. Even though her gparena profile had 100% good reviews, she wasn't nearly as hot as she appeared in her photos. She has a good attitude, the service was fine, but once again I was disappointed. Reading about monger heaven, maybe I just set myself up to have unrealistic expectations. I think not! So, I'm committed to spending this next week chasing the dream.
That being said I would love to connect with some of the vets on this forum that know this town inside and out. Have I even been to Rio if I don't make the rounds with Vagabundo1? However, I cannot currently PM as I'm on a free account. I tried signing up for a paid membership today, but ran into some obstacles, ISG cannot receive crypto from Coinbase (which I use), US Citizens cannot make a Binance account (which ISG recommends), and I even created a metamask wallet thinking I could send it through that, but it only works with coins on the eth blockchain and ISG dose not accept ETH or wBTC. So if anyone can recommend how I could buy a subscription I would appreciate it. Or, I know it's a longshot, but if anyone were down to spot me the cost of the subscription (if they have a crypto account that works) I would be happy to venmo, paypal, or repay them in person when we meet up. Obrigado.
Someone please show him around! I can't have this as a Rio report a couple of weeks before my first visit!
I just got in Friday and I'm staying at the Pestana Hotel. Convenient location right on Copacabana Beach. It's pretty ideal, and the hotel has exceeded my expectations after reading many spotty reviews online. On my first night in town I was keen on making my pilgrimage to 4 x4 after all that I've read about it in this forum. With my only reference point to compare it to being FKK Artemis in Berlin, I got to say I was disappointed and felt like it wasn't nearly as nice as I was expecting. Artemis is more spacious, with a full on swimming pool and spa and cinema. By comparison 4 x4 felt dingy, tight quarters, and the dynamic of having everyone confined in the small nightclub didn't feel as stimulating as exploring the maze of rooms at Artemis looking for talent.
After spending the whole day seeing all of the beauty on the streets of Rio, I didn't feel like I came across any 9's or 10's in the room as I had hoped. After seeing so many girls with enhancements, it pushed me to choose the most natural looking girl for an hour session. I believe her name was Mirela, she had a beautiful tan complexion, little natural be-cup breasts, and a cute ass. The room left much to be desired pretty small and minimal. The mattress was about as hard and uncomfortable as I've ever felt and the sheet felt like plastic and didn't stay on. And the condoms they have are tight, so if you're on the larger side, you may want to bring your own. The service was fine, she was lovely and we exchanged Whatsapp at the end of the session. But I was just really expecting a better experience overall. (r $60 entrance + are $420 1-hour session + 2 beers at are $22 each came out to are $524. Which equals approximately $100 usd, so fine, I won't complain too much.).
Saturday I was hoping to make it to Dark Room for the famous Saturday Special I've read about, but unfortunately got caught up in meetings that didn't let out until after 3 pm. So by that time everything was closed. Caught a great celebration in the streets after Flamengo won the Copa Libertadores final. And then ended up at another awesome street party in Lapa. After only spending my time around Copacabana, Ipanema, and Leblon, being in Lapa was really eye-opening. The architecture of old Rio is gorgeous, and the vibe was so so different with much more diversity and creativity in the streets.
Today, Sunday, was Election Day. Very tense, but interesting to be here nonetheless. Everywhere from my hotel, to the bank around the corner where I went to use the ATM were turned into voting stations. The majority of the people around Rio had Lula stickers on, occasionally chanting his name in the street. With most (all?) mongering establishments closed on Sunday and me not wanting to go two back-to-back days not having a session, so I took to gparena, the local ads and review site. I had previously gone through the entire past year of reviews (largely thanks to the google translate feature on the chrome browser) and bookmarked my top 10 providers. Most of the girls don't work on the weekends, so I just started going down my list messaging each of them on Whatsapp to see who would respond and be open to meeting. I messaged 7 girls before finally locking in a date. For context, most of the girls on gparena charge between are $170 to are $200 per hour. The only one that responded asked for are $300 plus are $50 for uber round trip to meet at my hotel. That's a good reason to work on Sundays, cause I was left with no other options. Again realizing that are $350 comes out to about $70 usd, it was still a much better deal than anything I'd ever find at home.
She arrived in 30 min. Pastena Hotel is GF, they just called up to my room and sent her up no problem. Even though her gparena profile had 100% good reviews, she wasn't nearly as hot as she appeared in her photos. She has a good attitude, the service was fine, but once again I was disappointed. Reading about monger heaven, maybe I just set myself up to have unrealistic expectations. I think not! So, I'm committed to spending this next week chasing the dream.
That being said I would love to connect with some of the vets on this forum that know this town inside and out. Have I even been to Rio if I don't make the rounds with Vagabundo1? However, I cannot currently PM as I'm on a free account. I tried signing up for a paid membership today, but ran into some obstacles, ISG cannot receive crypto from Coinbase (which I use), US Citizens cannot make a Binance account (which ISG recommends), and I even created a metamask wallet thinking I could send it through that, but it only works with coins on the eth blockchain and ISG dose not accept ETH or wBTC. So if anyone can recommend how I could buy a subscription I would appreciate it. Or, I know it's a longshot, but if anyone were down to spot me the cost of the subscription (if they have a crypto account that works) I would be happy to venmo, paypal, or repay them in person when we meet up. Obrigado.