Rio de Janeiro Reports

[ForceSteeler]

Club Help.

Any of you guys think Places Like Club Help will open back up once the Olympics is over with in 2016?

[FuckAfMedDig]

World Cup fever has gripped Rio harder than a gdp grips your pau in combination with social unrest but in general the city is buzzing. Hit MV30 and MC-MC was super packed and did 2 sessions w new girls--last one black girl-super safada- sucked a mean one and full cim.

MV30 was good too-banged a new one-mixed race-quite skinny-cim again.

Will go to 4 x 4 tomorrow Sunday and see a few non-pros in between before flying to my non-pro in Minas.

[PatmarBeleza1]

Thanks!

I figured that I was off by a rank, which is why I said, "sergeant or higher".

But, a few points.

This is based on a specific experience. When I talked to that PM sergeant (sargento), on Av Rio Branco near 502 when getting cash, I actually had 3 short conversations. Inside the bank, I did the usual, qual es su nome? Roberto. Prazer, etc. Actually, I said, we carry those pistols, a beretta too. He said, they are taurus in Brazil. OK, military worldwide do one thing in common, they carry weapons.

Out on the street, when he called me over when he was standing with 4 PM, I asked, so what is your unit patch, the PMERJ patch. Maybe he misunderstood, but he pointed to his three yellow stripes and said "sergeant" (in English), I guess "sargento" but close enough. My point is that in the 5 seconds that you are under stress in a fight or close to a fight, that dude is trained to react to his rank; and that's a good thing if you want to get him on your side immediately.

So, again, then walking back to 502, he and his buddies now all say Hi to me, by name; and again, that's a good thing on Av Rio Branco 100 meters from Av pres vargas, where, on any given day, there are 500 professional protestors (some of whom carry gas masks) trying to get into confrontations.

Now, on another occasion in RJ, I had another positive interaction with another PM (Policia Militar), this out in Tijuca. Diego. Now, this PM specifically said, the girls in the prive you are thinking about are ugly, you should go to this particular terma. So, just based on my limited experience, the PM's I have interacted with are the carioca males that I want to actually socialize with and trade ah, professional, knowledge with. I mean, those PM patrols of 2 or 4 guys who pass through Mosaico at 2 AM are there for security, but they do have penises.

On the subject of police, and women police who are hot, I recall this. About a year ago, Cartman and I headed to MV30 or one of those darkside termas. Cartman's girl that night -- who was the hottest in the bar -- turned out to be studying for the policia civil exam. After that, I did start to notice that many of the policia civil female officers are pretty hot, 25 ish women. I'd definitely put them on the non pro list, though I have not yet accomplished that particular hat trick (good on ya, Sperto).

On a bigger picture note, though, the Policia Militar (and correct me if I am wrong, because I am not researching this) have a main mission of pacification (UPP). 2008, RJ gets the olympics. 2010, Federal military comes into RJ to clear favelas held by hard core traficantes. 2013, there are protestors in the hundreds of thousands. But in the last 12 months, the police have received special training in non violent means, so the excessive force incidents of 2013 are not as prevalent, nor are the actual protests in the hundreds of thousands, rather maximum of 1000 professional protestors. So, the conclusion is that PM are really overkill, overarmed, underutilized in civil policing; again, a good thing for me if I want an ally on the street in RJ, the guy with the most powerful weapons, also the guys who are likely to be monger experts themselves, and the least likely to be concerned with minor (from their jurisdiction) issues such as those that the police clearing balcony (and I don't know where that is, except its in copa, right?) are. So, if the PM (as opposed to civil police) actually get involved in a situation, they are not going to want to do the paper work to haul anyone into their station. The PM officers on the street in Botafogo, or Leblon, or Humaita are on easy duty compared to the other places they could be in RJ -- namely in a favela somewhere north of Central station and south of Pavuna in a real firefight with traficantes.

A small correction, Patmar. "Sargento". Btw the guy in the photo is a "Segundo Sargento". If the officer in question would be of higher rank, e.g a Tenente, he might be offended if you call him Sargento. If you havn't done military service and learnt ranks you be better of to address the PM with a polite "Senhor".

I would be careful of recommending forum members to search out PMs in the purpose of getting protective friends. My experience with brazilian police are all very good, most brazilian police are honest guys that do a good work, but that doesn't go for all of them. Some are corrupt, triggerhappy guys that are involved in crimes, sometimes targeting gringos (working together with prostitutes or drugdealers). IMO it's better to not attract the attention from neither criminals or police (unless they happens to be goodlooking female police, two of my best f*cks have been with PMs in Salvador ).

[Safado69]

You can try the Lido Hotel on Rua Ronald de Carvalho, 190. It's an hourly motel close to Barbarella's and Balcony.

I heard from a pretty reliable source that this was also shutdown along with Balcony.

[Sperto]

"Sergeant".
Practice saying that word. This is how to get the Brazilian with the best weapon on your side in 5 seconds.
Look at the attached image.
Three yellow stripes mean "sergeant".
... - always know where the policia militar are, and if you need them, the first word is "sergeant".

A small correction, Patmar. "Sargento". Btw the guy in the photo is a "Segundo Sargento". If the officer in question would be of higher rank, e.g a Tenente, he might be offended if you call him Sargento. If you havn't done military service and learnt ranks you be better of to address the PM with a polite "Senhor".

I would be careful of recommending forum members to search out PMs in the purpose of getting protective friends. My experience with brazilian police are all very good, most brazilian police are honest guys that do a good work, but that doesn't go for all of them. Some are corrupt, triggerhappy guys that are involved in crimes, sometimes targeting gringos (working together with prostitutes or drugdealers). IMO it's better to not attract the attention from neither criminals or police (unless they happens to be goodlooking female police, two of my best f*cks have been with PMs in Salvador ).

[Eric Cartman]

Yup, Balcony is about to be shut down.

The groups involved, if you read the story, are the sexual-abuse-against-minors ones. These are the same groups that, about 1. 5 years ago, ran the arrests / search warrants on a bunch of gringos accused of the same issue, trafficking in minors. So now not only do you have the police involved, but the special police who deal with sexual exploitation of minors.

You pretty much will never catch me again visiting Balcony. I haven't been there for 2+ years and the risk is way too high, esp when you factor in the low quality of the chicks.

[PatmarBeleza1]

"Sergeant".

Practice saying that word. This is how to get the Brazilian with the best weapon on your side in 5 seconds.

Look at the attached image.

Three yellow stripes mean "sergeant".

So, the Policia Militar guy in the picture is a sergeant, or above.

He is carrying a 7. 62 mm assault rifle; all the Policia Militar carry at least a 9 mm taurus pistol; while some of the policia civil cops (the ones in beige with cristo statue patches who sometimes have armbands with "posse ajudar") carry a first aid kit and a baton -- and as such are pretty useless in a real force escalation situation with traficantes, the top level criminals.

Look at the uniform, so you can recognize the RJ military police. Other states like RS (Rio Grande do Sul, Porto Alegre, POA) have different uniforms.

Why?

Policia Militar are everwhere in Rio, from Zona Sul to Zona Norte. In Zona Sul, they are on on the streets on Av Nossa Copa, pretty easy post. In Zona Norte, they are clearing city blocks in body armor with heavy weapons in support.

The guy who tried to follow the girl from pra bandeira to Metro station was asking for a fight, and on her home field

By the way, the Policia Militar are the ones who actually do deserve the credit for RJ and Brazil being as ready as the country is for Copa and maybe Olympics. I am both a Brazil and a Vasco fan, which by social I'd means I am cheering for the poorest, slumdog Brazilians to become millionaires if they so desire.

There is a less than $50 BRL guide for security for even a monger who has never been to Brazil, much less a gym, before:

- buy a vasco shirt immediately and wear it.

- always know where the policia militar are, and if you need them, the first word is "sergeant".

[Bravo]

For you guys who are in Rio right now. How is the GP-situation in Copacabana? More girls on ho-beach, better quality at Balcony, more streetwalkers on the calado?

I was curious about this too. Is Copa overflowing with Brazilian and European prostitutes?

[Azn Safado]

Can't wait for them fresh wafer cones!

9. And if any veteran, made it this far in my "no intel" post. Where is a good & cheap love motel near Balcony Bar?

I hope to report to all of you Tuesday morning, how my Sunday went.

You can try the Lido Hotel on Rua Ronald de Carvalho, 190. It's an hourly motel close to Barbarella's and Balcony.

[Manny51]

You mean a plan B if Balcony closes?
For me Balcony never has been plan A (or B, C, D...). I couldn't care less if they close Balcony. Expensive beer, overpriced lowclass GPs and a bunch of gringos. The best thing with Balcony is their ice cream served in freshly made wafer cones.
Balcony will propably close but it will take some time.

Your plan B, C, D, E... could be be termas, prives, escortsites, streetwalkers, VM or non-pro's.

I would agree. After taking a cruise through Balcony, I didn't even bother ordering a beer. With so many other good options why would you want to go there?

But don't worry, some other bar will come to fill the void. There always is. It just won't happen by the end of the World Cup.

[Thunder5]

Can't wait for them fresh wafer cones!

1. Veterans, skip my post, because this post has no intel.

2. For you Rio virgins like me, I can't wait to get to Rio! I will be there Sunday morning June 15 on the worst day of the week for mongering-Sunday!

3. To some of you veterans who have pm backed to me with some advice. Thanks. (Seriously).

4. For any veterans who care to reply. Which "love motel" do I take these streetwalkers, WG's, and, the 1 in 100 chance I snag a World Cup groupie chick for free, in the Copa Balcony Bar area? Just want to save some Reals and not blow it all at an expensive love motel. So which love motel is a good price near Balcony Bar / Copa Beach area? (My ipanema place won't allow visitors).

5. Gran Merino, plan F could be Barbarellas if Balcony closes this week. (Based on the 100 pages of forum posts I've read).

6. Again, based on the 100 pages I've read. Termas and prives are the way to go. (I'm going to a terma Sunday night).

7. I guess I will just have to report my experiences, every couple of days I'm there.

8. I was on bigsoccer.com website and they said the fanfest area at Copa was off the hook during the Brazil game today. "The vibe is good. The fanfest was the place to be. When Brazil scored the place went crazy. Loads of police around, it feels very safe and the place is jumping!

9. And if any veteran, made it this far in my "no intel" post. Where is a good & cheap love motel near Balcony Bar?

I hope to report to all of you Tuesday morning, how my Sunday went.

You mean a plan B if Balcony closes?

For me Balcony never has been plan A (or B, C, D...). I couldn't care less if they close Balcony. Expensive beer, overpriced lowclass GPs and a bunch of gringos. The best thing with Balcony is their ice cream served in freshly made wafer cones.

Balcony will propably close but it will take some time.

Your plan B, C, D, E... could be be termas, prives, escortsites, streetwalkers, VM or non-pro's.

[Mr Enternational]

I wonder where mongers will go at night if Balcony closes. I prefer the convenience of staying local, I don't want to travel all the way downtown in search of ass. Taking a 2 R van to Balcony and looking over the garotas was awesome.

As the manager said in the article, if it is not at Balcony then it will be somewhere else. He added they thought the same (that it would go away) when they closed Help.

[Bravo]

Yup, Balcony is about to be shut down.

I wonder where mongers will go at night if Balcony closes. I prefer the convenience of staying local, I don't want to travel all the way downtown in search of ass. Taking a 2 R van to Balcony and looking over the garotas was awesome.

[Sperto]

For you guys who are in Rio right now. How is the GP-situation in Copacabana? More girls on ho-beach, better quality at Balcony, more streetwalkers on the calçadão?

[Sperto]

Any plan B or C or D or E?

Sperto et al. Please advise.

You mean a plan B if Balcony closes?
For me Balcony never has been plan A (or B, C, D...). I couldn't care less if they close Balcony. Expensive beer, overpriced lowclass GPs and a bunch of gringos. The best thing with Balcony is their ice cream served in freshly made wafer cones.
Balcony will propably close but it will take some time.

Your plan B, C, D, E... could be be termas, privées, escortsites, streetwalkers, VM or non-pro's.