Rio de Janeiro Reports

[The Cane]

Of course she was fucking other dudes while you were down there with her! ALL of them do it. I always ask guys "Do you really think it takes these girls 5 hours to get their hair and nails done? Do you really think it takes her 8 hours to go home on the bus to get more clothes so she can stay with you?" Hell fucking no! While you are down at 4x4, she is in another guys apartment with her feet over his shoulders!

If a guy is truly interested in being with a woman who will be faithful, then he should give himself the best chance at it possible by not dating or marrying a prostitute! I mean duh! Talk about setting yourself up for failure. And not only that, the guy needs to leave the game and be faithful himself.

And therein lies the real challenge. Too many guys want to have it both ways. They want a girl who doesn't fuck around town, but then they want to keep doing it themselves. If a man wants a woman who will be faithful to him and him only, then he needs to look for her in the right places. And he needs to be faithful himself. Start with the man in the mirror.

[Benjoe]

Of course she was fucking other dudes while you were down there with her! ALL of them do it. I always ask guys "Do you really think it takes these girls 5 hours to get their hair and nails done? Do you really think it takes her 8 hours to go home on the bus to get more clothes so she can stay with you?" Hell fucking no! While you are down at 4x4, she is in another guys apartment with her feet over his shoulders!

Once, I was in a middle of a session (at a natural stopping point) , and the gdp told me that she has to go take a driver's license test, but she will come right back. I was ok with that-she didn't ask for money and there was now more time to recuperate. After a hour or so, she comes back, and we go back at it.

When I was back home a week later, I was going through gpguia, and I found out what she was doing at the driving test.

[Eric Cartman]

Assume they are lying. Assume they are banging other guys. Live more stress-free.

[Bubba Boy]

Three or four times I had really attractive girlfriends / wives that my friends were drooling over, and each time I cheated on them.

One of my favourite quotes is "show me a beautiful woman and I will show you a guy that is sick of f*king her"

[Bubba Boy]

I am buddies with a certain prive girl. These girls are the worse when it comes to lies. At the prive that she currently works, her 4 or 5 of her best friends there all have boyfriends. None of them tell their boyfriends that they work as GDP's. Occasionally when the boyfriend finds out, they just move to a different prive and start again keeping the lie alive. DENY, DENY, DENY works for them I guess.

There is one particular girl that has had her boyfriend literally follow her around for the last 2 weeks. She stills works though, cut out the prive work for the moment but still does freelance work. He even walked into her when she was with a gringo at a restaurant a few nights ago, somehow she even bullshitted her way out of that one. Long lost cousin or some bullshit.

My current prive buddy is also a compulsive liar. She has a boyfriend, she denied it to me for ages until I just couldn't take the stupidity of it anymore and just had to get her to admit it. When she did admit it I am like fine, just stop all the lying crap, it is unnecessary. But, she still carries on with the lies, she just can't help it. I don't even bother pulling up her contradictions anymore. BTW, her having a boyfriend is working well for me. On the plus side he travels a lot and hence she has free time. Also on the plus side, because she has a boyfriend, I don't have to put up with the meaningless telephone calls to her every night, all Brazilian girlfriends demand this, hence as I am not the official bf, I get a pass-Nice. On the downside her bf carries a gun, works as a Police, so there is also a chance I will shot. Like is like that I guess, always pluses and minuses.

So, anyone that dates one of these girls, no matter how friggin good they are in the sack ain't going to stop these girls grabbing a bit of extra dick!

[Bravo]

Now she is a pretty trustworthy person (and of course I am a bad/cool mf) but it makes me wonder if she may have done the same with someone else when we were together.

Of course she was fucking other dudes while you were down there with her! ALL of them do it. I always ask guys "Do you really think it takes these girls 5 hours to get their hair and nails done? Do you really think it takes her 8 hours to go home on the bus to get more clothes so she can stay with you?" Hell fucking no! While you are down at 4x4, she is in another guys apartment with her feet over his shoulders!

[Bravo]

A good friend of mine and fellow monger married a Help girl a couple of years ago. They have known each other 8 years and have 2 children together (allegedly). Well he travels for work and the other day while he was gone he looked on her facebook and a guy had left a message to the tune of "sorry for keeping you up last night, etc." He confronted her about it and she admitted to fucking the guy. To add insult to injury she would not fuck him so he immediately went to get a divorce packet. I think everyone can figure the moral of this story for themselves.

I am pretty sure I know the 3 people you are talking about, so I have seen the situation from the outside and have a different perspective. Did your boy mention that he travels 5-6 days a week? That his schedule constantly changes, so he can go to work in the morning and with no prior notice, travel out of the country and not return for 3 days? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this is a recipe for disaster. Hell, you couldn't pull that shit with an American woman, never mind a brailsian girl! I can only imagine the shit storm I would face if I called my wife in the morning and was like "Baby I am headed overseas, I won't be back for a few days!" I wouldn't be sleeping on the couch when I returned, I would be in the back yard, sleeping in a tent!

Every monger on here knows, the most dangerous thing for a X-help girl is boredom! I have banged more than my share of married X-Help girls here in the states, simply because they are sitting in the house alone for 10-12 hours a day. Now imagine a woman who is alone for 3 days at a time. Exec Talent nailed it right on the nose, (I wonder if he knows them too). She knows he is fucking other bitches when he travels out of the country, he has even thrown it in her face and he expects her to keep her legs closed?

Moral of the story is : You can't be a monger and expect your wife to be happy about it. She will retaliate.

[Euro100]

Sad that he didn't know how to please her so she had to get that somewhere else.

This statement is oversimplifying relationships to such a point that I wonder if you chuckled when you wrote it. If you really believe that all you have to do is sexually please your women and she will stay faithful to you, then you are setting yourself up for a really big heart ache.

Sex can be as great as you want, but people also want variety and perhaps even danger. That is, after all, why most of us are on this board. A member of this board that I hung out with last Saturday at L'uomo told me that he used to have a girlfriend that was a dead ringer for Halle Berry, but after a while he cheated on her; and he cheated on her with a less attractive girl. Why? Because that's the way we are wired, I think. And I have to confess that I have done the same. Three or four times I had really attractive girlfriends / wives that my friends were drooling over, and each time I cheated on them. (Not right away, of course. I tried being faithful, sometimes for a very long time, but then the beast inside reared its head again.) You really start to miss the tingle of the conquest, and it can be an addiction like a drug. Doing p4p, by the way, is only a mild version of that drug, suitable to overcome withdrawal symptoms.

Most people, of course, are not like that. They stick with their partners and never cheat or engage in p4p. (Note that I make a difference between the two!) But I would suggest that they stay faithful partially because they cannot image what it would be like if they did not. Many guys wonder, but do not do it. Instead they order pay-per-view porn in their hotel rooms and jerk off. (That business is bigger in revenue, by the way, than all of mainstream Hollywood movies combined.)

But once you stepped over the line, then that tabu is gone. Obviously, a former gdp has stepped over that line previously, as has anybody who bought their services. Deep down you know then that there is opportunity everywhere for those who look, and you should equally know that no relationship is safe. The same is true for males and females; it does not make a difference. Feeding yourself the line about just pleasing your partner in bed the right way and everything will be OK is just like whistling in the dark.

[Lorenzo]

You know what they say. You can't turn a ho monger into a husband. When are these girls ever going to learn? Sad.

I agree with you, but the converse is true as well: you can't turn a ho into a housewife, in spite of many opinions to the contrary on this forum. As we used to say in Nam 40 years ago, you can take the girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl.

[Mr Enternational]

Most Brazilians f*k around, it is cultural. They can get the sex they require outside a relationship, not necessarily a slight on their partner, they just like sex. Hell their partner may be great in the sack, but variety is the spice of life. I was at 502 the other night with Euro and Sex traveler, both good contributors to this board. I asked the girl I was with if she had a boyfriend, just general conversation, and she says "Yes I do, but I always have a little time on the side for 1 more". Sums up Brazilian culture, from the laughing "A's" in Brazil that have everything, right down to the "E's" that have nothing.

This makes me say hmmm. I was supposed to go see my ex-girlfriend the end of last month. She is from Rio, but now works in Canada. About a week before I was supposed to go she told me that she was seeing a guy there now. I said okay. I just will not go then. (I really didn't want to go in the first place, so it was a great excuse for me.) She said no it is not a problem, I just wanted to let you know. I told her that I didn't want to cause any problems so I thought it would be best if I did not go. She hoped that I had changed my mind back before the time came but I made alternate plans to go to the Dominican Republic. The other day she sent me an email saying that she misses me and I replied telling her not to worry about me because she has someone else to miss now. She wrote back Sunday with,"however, still I miss you! Come to see me please! Beijos." Now she is a pretty trustworthy person (and of course I am a bad/cool mf) but it makes me wonder if she may have done the same with someone else when we were together.

[Sperto]

... the doctor in residency that I could have had through Brazilcupid in 2009 was not good at sex (a good indication she was doing real work?)...

IMO sex with regular brazilian girls are normally better than with pro's.
Of course, some of the regular girls might not have the same BJ-skills etc but still provide hotter and better sex.

[PatmarBeleza1]

This is completely true. I had a mini relationship with a brasileira. She was a freelancer, and before that a top terma girl. After some great per noites in August and December last year, I got to know her whole situation. I could have married her. But here is the whole picture. No career prospects after her previous work, violent alcoholic mother in Reelengo she was forced to live with with her 9 year old son. After seeing her in December, I listened to my friends who said she will only manipulate in her environment, so I steered clear, except for email or video chat. To her credit in July this year she was honest, she said, I have another boyfriend, he helps pay for a place to live for me and my son. I told her to do that, and I told her I was happy for her. She was the best brasileira I was ever with (actually half Brazilian, half Italian). And what could you expect, being a continent away?

I was posting about Class A to Class D a little bit ago. What I was getting at is not that the bunda is actually better with more $R, on the contrary, the doctor in residency that I could have had through Brazilcupid in 2009 was not good at sex (a good indication she was doing real work?). But, the point is, think with your big head, not your little head. You pick a woman to have children with because she is the top stripper at quatroporquatro, and how many men, what job skills, and what kind of family are you picking? If there is a way to do it, to get a namorada for filos why familia, I would try to meet a student from a Class A or laughing A (commodity rich) family. Then if you have kids with her, the kids education is probably endowed.

Anyway, I don't know any of the above from experience (ie being successful with Class A or B brasileiras). I think it would be very hard. I think you could also find a Class C or D brasileira for a family, pretty easily, but not in the places discussed on this website, ie, the termas or agencies.

I think that Bubba Boy guide quote about being completely selfish is applicable.

People are not 1 dimensional, especially Brazilians. They all want / need / desire different things. They want a package of things, not any one thing. However the most important thing a woman wants out of a relationship is security. Sure good sex and being pleased by a man is important in a relationship, but to a woman it is probably like number 5 on the list. They ability to be taken care of is way more important than if someone knows how to lick pussy or not. You can survive without sex but you can't survive without food!

[Bubba Boy]

Sad -that he didn't know how to please her so she had to get that somewhere else.

I have noticed this very 1 dimensional theme develop from exec over the last year. That is if you are well above average in bed, or better still exceptional at pleasing a woman's desire, then she will pretty much be happy and stay with you for ever. Never cheating on you etc.

People are not 1 dimensional, especially Brazilians. They all want / need / desire different things. They want a package of things, not any one thing. However the most important thing a woman wants out of a relationship is security. Sure good sex and being pleased by a man is important in a relationship, but to a woman it is probably like number 5 on the list. They ability to be taken care of is way more important than if someone knows how to lick pussy or not. You can survive without sex but you can't survive without food!

Most Brazilians f*k around, it is cultural. They can get the sex they require outside a relationship, not necessarily a slight on their partner, they just like sex. Hell their partner may be great in the sack, but variety is the spice of life. I was at 502 the other night with Euro and Sex traveler, both good contributors to this board. I asked the girl I was with if she had a boyfriend, just general conversation, and she says "Yes I do, but I always have a little time on the side for 1 more". Sums up Brazilian culture, from the laughing "A's" in Brazil that have everything, right down to the "E's" that have nothing.

[Exec Talent]

A good friend of mine and fellow monger married a Help girl a couple of years ago. They have known each other 8 years and have 2 children together (allegedly). Well he travels for work and the other day while he was gone he looked on her facebook and a guy had left a message to the tune of "sorry for keeping you up last night, etc." He confronted her about it and she admitted to fucking the guy. To add insult to injury she would not fuck him so he immediately went to get a divorce packet. I think everyone can figure the moral of this story for themselves.

that he didn't know how to please her so she had to get that somewhere else. I wonder if he was faithful to her or just left her alone with the kids while he continued with his mongering ways?

I know many former GDPs whom had gotten married, were loyal and really wanted to make it work but their man cheated on them with a prostitute. You know what they say. You can't turn a ho monger into a husband. When are these girls ever going to learn? Sad.

[Mr Enternational]

A good friend of mine and fellow monger married a Help girl a couple of years ago. They have known each other 8 years and have 2 children together (allegedly). Well he travels for work and the other day while he was gone he looked on her facebook and a guy had left a message to the tune of "sorry for keeping you up last night, etc." He confronted her about it and she admitted to fucking the guy. To add insult to injury she would not fuck him so he immediately went to get a divorce packet. I think everyone can figure the moral of this story for themselves.