Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Kirks82]

I think the reference to the prices going up in an earlier post were from someone who hadn't been back to Rio in quite some time. When I was there Dec 10, Bubba Boys Guide accurately reflected 4x4 prices, including waived entrance if you take a girl before 5pm.

I was last on the 30th and it was 280 Reais for an hour session.

[Jsm1393]

Can someone on the ground in Rio confirm if the price of a session at 4 X 4 has gone up once again? If so, what are the current prices? Any information will be nice to have. Thanks.

I think the reference to the prices going up in an earlier post were from someone who hadn't been back to Rio in quite some time. When I was there Dec 10, Bubba Boys Guide accurately reflected 4x4 prices, including waived entrance if you take a girl before 5pm.

[Voyajer1]

Can someone on the ground in Rio confirm if the price of a session at 4 X 4 has gone up once again? If so, what are the current prices? Any information will be nice to have. Thanks.

[Dazzler72]

Thanks so much for the comparison, Daniel69. Very useful and comprehensive. I guess we should be pleased that Brazil is improving economically, but from a selfish, mongering point of view, wealth is not good for the scene. Ah well, that's progress.

[Member #3439]

Isn't it great that we have different tastes? Frequently I witness the following scen in these cheap dumps of R$ 20 massage parlors. There is one drop dead cute 18 year old, slim, no belly, hard body standing around abandoned while a happy Brazilian has a fat middle aged whale with small tits and big belly and big ass sitting on his lap.

I am happy, too, to have the cutie left all for myself. So praise diversity!

There are a bunch of such cheap termas, plenty of them opening early already. Good prices and occasional gems to be found.

Wiil you post the locations of some R$20 massage parlors? The only one that I know of is Bar Uruguaiana 210 where you could get a 15 minute session for about that much per the laminated menu they showed me several months back. I'm not sure what can be done in 15 minutes, but maybe it makes sense to Brasilians. After 15 minutes I'm still DATY, DFK, getting catbath and/or whatever. U210 is actually one of those places where I walk in and get the best looking girl due to the whale effect that you are talking about. BA85 and Cesaro too. Their Skol goggles work to our benefit. I keep my consumption down to near zero for maximum hobbying, except at VM where it's a little bit mandatory to get the cerveja goggles on, and smear some good VM mud on them.

Ipanama Carioca, that's the Centro de Lazer that I was remembering. Different one.

Torgoch, thanks for the clarification. I will be put this on my list! Looking forward to getting back!!!! Hopefully my trip occurs to plan, so I get to do my mongering just before Carnivale while the maximum number of girls are still there, but still mostly tight and healthy. After this, I won't get back until October, so will be making the most of it but keeping it sane. Last time was either 21 or 23 girls in 7 days, more stressful than fun. Next time, quality!

[Eric Cartman]

HAnd if anyone sees an increase in Terma prices (compared to the recent posts I've seen on here) that would be nice to know too because they have got to be gauging as well. I don't visit Termas anymore and I don't invite GDP's over on one their biggest weeks of the year so I can't provide intel. Sorry. Last New Year 'Help' was still open until the 5th of January so I was able to work out some great deals, but this year is different. I do believe price fixing will finally commence.

Ciao for now,

RioDan

Well, I was at L'Uomo on Thursday night 30th, which was the last day before they closed for NYE / NYD. We got there around 10. 30pm and it was probably 2:1 girls to guys. They were having an early NYE party. Gave out candles and sparklers. At midnight, everyone lit them off and shouted happy new year etc. By that point, there were maybe 5-10 dudes and the rest girls. And many girls just got into their street clothes and started heading out. Prices seemed normal to me for 40 mins.

We had a big NYE party on my apartment's terrace in Copa, with a great view of the fireworks. Invited a number of GDPs I know. Told them I was just inviting them as friends, not working. One banged my friend for free, and the other asked me for R$90 for cab fare to get back to wherever the fuck she lives outside Rio. Which apparently is really really far. She said she'd take me there one day to show me, which I politely declined LOL. So we avoided NYE gouging.

I can see why it could be happening at balcony etc. I was at Balcony on Weds 29th very late. Say 2am-3am. And man (a) it was packed and (be) the girls were "hard". I mean prison style hard, not really a cutie to be spotted in the bunch. Not the kind I wanted to take home. I know you only need 1 but better luck in Centro.

502 and the other cheaper Ts in Centro seem like good hunting grounds. Pricing remains OK. R$120 / throw. And the girls live in far away places so getting them to spend a night with you in Copa is actually attractive for them. At the same R$120 prices or less. FWIW.

But overall I do agree on prices and inflation in general in Copa. It's a shame and it will come to a halt sometime, but for now we are all living in a Rio unlike what we've know and loved in the past.

-Cartman

[Bubba Boy]

........Copa Louca.............

Now that is a very good post. I have spent a lot of time in Both Brazil and Columbia, can't dissagree with anything really. Not to beat a dead horse but Copa just gets more and more expensive. Centro gives some respite but the cost of living is just getting freakier with each day that passes. Can't help but think it is all going to end in tears one day, but until then Brazilian prices are just absurd!

[Mr Enternational]

Just wondering if anyone had any contact info on any of the low-cost apartments or long-term motel / hotels that the GDPs from out of town use while working in Rio. I figure one can do worse than setting up shop in the midst of a puta-oasis. A ho-asis if you will!

Never shit where you sleep.

[Poucolouco]

The logo for the 2016 Olympics in Rio was unveiled Friday. The flowing symbol resembles three figures. Orange, green and blue. Embraced at the arms and in a flowing dance.

IMHO the thing looks like a tri-color IUD device.

[Daniel69]

4. I hear dissent about Rio (as I always have) and whispers of Colombia. Can anyone compare and contrast the two scenes in a coherent way?

I know I'm relatively new to this board, compared to the contributors you mentioned with many years of experience in this city, but this is my 5th visit to Rio in less than 3 years, and my 2nd visit this year (2 months Jan-Feb. 4 months Oct-Jan'11) so I'm seeing a lot of changes happening very quickly that visitors who only stay a week or two may not recognize, and experienced visitors from the past may be sorely disappointed with when they return. The reason for my long stay this trip was to look for real estate (I'm priced out of anything worthwhile at this point) and new business (I'm a web site and software developer).

It's as simple as this. Help is gone (arguably the best GDP club on the planet) , there is a new female president, Dilma Rousseff who was just sworn in a few hours ago and is riding in a convertible (top up) Rolls Royce as I am typing (Obama had to ride in atomic bomb proof limo when he celebrated) , the World Cup and Olympics are coming to town, real estate prices have sky rocketed up to 100% in the past year, so. Say Hello, to a new 'Family Friendly' Rio. And richer families at that! Oh, and I almost forgot to mention the huge Petrobas oil platform that is drilling off this beautiful Copacabana coastline. One of my girls down here told me the town is filled with very well-paid contract workers, both Brasileiros and Texans (of course) that are spending money like drunken sailors. These are the major factors why everything is changing so fast here, and it has only just begun.

I can't speak for the termas (I only went to 4x4 once this trip and the price increase was about 35-40%) but the vast quantity and quality of freelance GDP's that used to frequent Help have all turned into lower-grade, greedy, non GFE, Piranhas that feed in three small ponds: Mei Pateca (sp?) next to Othon Palace, Balcony Bar (what a scene) , and Dolce Vita's (smaller than my apartment) in the wee hours. All the girls will say they are friends with each other, which is like saying I know everyone on Facebook. Why? To cawk-block you from taking another. But don't listen to them. And if you let one (or two in some of my cases) sleep over be prepared to let them sleep the next day off, eat all your food, and possibly steal anything they can fit in their pocket book. After a mere 3 months here I have come to the conclusion that I will never return for more than a few weeks (mainly because I love the beaches, looking at beautiful carioca's in thongs, and it sure beats the snow).

As for Colombia, I went for the first time this past May. I was scared sh-tless but decided to take the risk because I'm the "no risk, no reward" type. I'm so glad I did because I met some of the nicest travelers (totally different than here) , and some of THE MOST beautiful women in the world. Yes, Brasil has the hottest, but Colombia has the most beautiful (many guys I met that have been here and there said the same thing before I found out for myself). And, contrary to popular belief, there are many with nice round butts. My preference is the model looking types with beautiful smiles, tight bods, and freaks in the bed. And that's all I got in Colombia. Non-stop. And the trip was 1/10 the cost of here. However, the country is still not completely stabilized and there are nightly curfews that range from 10pm. 12am and the bars must close. That's when you bring the action back to you hotel room or apartment and create your own terma. I had such a good time in Colombia I extended my trip another week after all my Spanish speaking friends left (I only speak Portuguese, and not that well) , and I still got by like Tipo Rei (King type)!

I'm not here to lamb baste Rio, I really love this city because it's extremely charming, the locals are some of the friendliest in the world (in Colombia they rarely crack a smile) , and the beaches are outrageous (especially during thong season)! But I think it's slowly becoming a contrived Disney World for Adults in Copacabana. Centro is another story, I know there are low-priced, all you desire, termas and freelancers there so I may need to trek back there more and stop looking for girls here in Copa Louca.

But I highly recommend Colombia for a taste of something very inexpensive and different. I've never heard any complaints from anyone that went and made it back (j / k)!

[Dazzler72]

Hi to all the guys on the forum. I haven't been on here for a few months due to depression stemming from the fact I've spent Christmas in Rio for the last two years and this Christmas I stayed in London. I couldn't face reading all the funny / interesting / stupid posts on this here forum.

I've just spent five days in bed with flu. Happy Christmas to me! God, I wish I was in the land of milk and honey rather than the land of rain and darkness. But you've cheered me up with your relentless banter. Some observations and questions for the usual suspects. Sperto, Brazil Specialist, Puta Playa, Bubba Boy and of course, Eric Cartman (apologies if I miss any of the other informed punters out but please feel free to answer) :

1. What's the news on the hotel on the corner of Principessa Isabella that was supposed to be finished by last Easter? Did the rumours about another Help style disco in the basement come to fruition? I very much doubt it!

2. Are there any new Termas open in Zona Sul or Centro that match 4x4, MC or L'Uomo?

3. What it Cancun?

4. I hear dissent about Rio (as I always have) and whispers of Colombia. Can anyone compare and contrast the two scenes in a coherent way?

5. It seems more and more boites are opening in Centro. Is this the case? And is it in reply to the close of Help or just a coincidence? And are there more boite-type establishments in Copacabana in response to Help's closing?

I think that's it. I hope to get down for Easter, finances and time allowing, or maybe I should visit Colombia.

Feliz ano novo!

[Daniel69]

Happy New Year everyone (even though I think this is the biggest B / S holiday)!

So I'm here in Copacabana for my second New Year in a row, except I've been here for 3 months now, and I can honestly say that I finally feel like a Brasileiro because I want all the tourists to leave! But if you were looking for the best pyrotechnics on the planet, on one of the most beautiful beaches in the world, with the happiest people in the world, this was the night. Absolutely SPECTACULAR!

As for the rest of the upcoming week, plus 2-3 more days perhaps, price gouging will be at it's finest (aside from Carnaval) and it's easy to see why. The streets are completely filled with idioto and idiota tourists. If 1/2 million tourists invaded my beach town I would probably overcharge them too. It's simple economics. Supply and demand. Although the only supply I see in jeopardy right now is alcohol and freelance 'entertainment'.

Bit ve never seen an environment where 2+ million people can party on a huge beach without a single incident. I do hear some rowdiness going on outside my apartment now but it's 5am and I don't hear sirens or screaming like I would in New York City where so many people celebrate the new year in zero Celsius degrees.

So I will finito my post with one final observation about this grande holiday in Rio (2nd only to Carnaval). Right now everyone that works / hustles has muito $$$ on their mind so if you're not with a ball & chain (e. G. Came with your own sand to the beach) I can't imagine what the freelance GDP's will gouge you for. It has got to be louco. And if anyone sees an increase in Terma prices (compared to the recent posts I've seen on here) that would be nice to know too because they have got to be gauging as well. I don't visit Termas anymore and I don't invite GDP's over on one their biggest weeks of the year so I can't provide intel. Sorry. Last New Year 'Help' was still open until the 5th of January so I was able to work out some great deals, but this year is different. I do believe price fixing will finally commence.

Ciao for now,

RioDan

[Brazil Specialist]

Hi,

I will visit Rio next month for the first time. I don't speak Portuguese.

I am looking for nice fresh-faced, non-hardened looking, slim girls.

I will try the termas.

Having read the posts, it seems that I need to try Centaurus even if their policy is not always appreciated.

Totos, if you pay your dues for a membership, then people can contact you with private messages. Otherwise there is no way to send you messages. I tried and failed.

I probably could help you in your quest.

To me a model type is a tall, skinny & generally less than attractice woman.

Isn't it great that we have different tastes? Frequently I witness the following scen in these cheap dumps of R$ 20 massage parlors. There is one drop dead cute 18 year old, slim, no belly, hard body standing around abandoned while a happy Brazilian has a fat middle aged whale with small tits and big belly and big ass sitting on his lap.

I am happy, too, to have the cutie left all for myself. So praise diversity!

Ipanema Carioca, I think your photos are for Centro de Lazer 132 on Rua de Conceicao in Centro. Centro de Lazer 13 is in Praca Olavo Bilac, the flower sellers square, which is off Rua do Rosario. There is a sign over the door so it is easy to find. I have never been to either termas so would be interested in hearing any feedback. I'll try them out on my next trip to Rio in June.

There are a bunch of such cheap termas, plenty of them opening early already. Good prices and occasional gems to be found.

[Torgoch]

Thanks for the info. Would be good if you cited the original source, so we can read up on it without having to second-guess the google translation.

This weblink has some detailed information.

http://braziltravelcenter.wordpress.com/

[Brazil Specialist]

Can somebody enlighten me on why people so often use the word gangsta in regard to 4x4? The tattoos? I don't think they have more tattoos than other Centro GDPs. I like these girls, they are down to earth and the sex is usually genuine if you take a girl who acts lively in the boite. I can screen girls at 4x4 based on whether they are standing or sitting, front or back of the boite, and whether they give tongue in the boite. In Copa termas, things are more uniform you can't screen like that.

I have heard that at 4x4, clients tend to be either police or gangsters. In either case, these guys have their methods, in the room, of intimidating girls into providing exactly the service they want.