Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Member #3439]

Went to Terma 31 last week. R$10 entrance, R$90 30 minute session, R$ 110 40 minute, R$ 130 60 minute session. Facilities not great but passable, seen worse, much worse. End up grabbing a Mulatta, everything was on the menu, face maybe 7.5, body strong 9! Bunda so firm you could throw a quarter at it and it would bounce right back at you. Big titties too. Session was not as initimate as one would get from say Luomo, but hey - banging a banging mulatta with titas and ass like that for only R$120 TOTAL.

Thanks for the rare T31 and MV30 review. With the Real and prices creeping up, these venues should get more gringos in the years to come. You mentioned that everything was 'not as intimate as L'uomo?' Is that the general perception of the standard there, or do you mean just that particular girl? T31 is higher priced than the better known Florida Club down the street ($R95/40 +10) but I think if everything is on the menu, T31 sounds like a better option for only R15 more. Girls in Florida vary wildy, from crazy to everything covered. Florida is fun because of the good music and some pole dancing to pass time, but if the standard at T31 is completa then it would be a better value and I'd give up on Florida.

Agree 100%. That's why I said they are up to more than they might admit -- speaking of the professional and "upper class" in particular. Also, the special arrangements thing is right on. I know of several such arrangements.

Me too. In the extreme, I know a Brasilian middle-management type who has 2 families, and the original wife knows about the second family and lets him spend time there 50/50. She's not happy about it, but she's not leaving. Another guy has the same thing, but the time split is less. Mistresses, I guess, in a Brasilian sort of way. Better to have the sexually sadistic kind with PVC outfits, ropes and rattan canes, less painful.

The reason that people in UK, USA seem straightlaced about sex compared with Brasil is that most of the time xtra marital sex means divorce, custody battles, and big money lost. Its the secular individualistic mindset vs the religious/family oriented mindset. If a typical girl gets cheated on in the States, she doesn't care about the life of the kids or what her family thinks, she's just off to the lawyer to exact her revenge. So smart guys in places like the States know better than to fuck around in their own backyard because the mistress will tell the wife so she can have the man and his bank account to herself, and the wife is scorned and wants her cut, and so it almost ends in court instead of a practical solution like the Brasilians work out.

Check the divorce rates below in comparison to Brasil. Obviously the Pope tells them to grin and bear it down there, even if the marido comes home pushing a stroller and holding hands with his other 'baby's mama'. Despite what people think, I'd say the Cariocas are more uptight about a lot of things than people in 'The West'..like divorce, abortion, gays, race, class struggles etc. People in other industrialized societies, except for a vocal minority of special interest groups, moved past those topics 20 or 30 years ago. In my estimate, and my opinion only, time schedules and fucking are only things they are free and easy about. Everything else is a problem for them.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/pe...e-divorce-rate

[Eric Cartman]

Cancun. Nice action there of late and cheaper to R$230 for entrance & 40 minute session etc. Facilities way better than 4x4. Went there last week, tab was R$250, decent price, decent session and excellent facilities. For me outright price is not important, I can afford pretty much any club in the world every day of the week, however perceived value is important. Cancun is good value for me.

Amen to that. See my previous reports on Cancun from my last trip. Absolute highlight. Of course, now I've gone and given it way too much publicity as have you :P

[HelpRules]

What are the girls at balcony asking for since Help closed? There is no entrance fee there. That should keep their prices lower than Help.

[Tvr 1974]

Woooowwww

Rates have really gone up there!

I am from Holland and I can tell you that for that money you can easily find a chick (even brasilians) here for an hour or more. If those rates are really that high than I would suggest buy a ticket to amsterdam and visit some clubs here. You will save a lot of money and if brazilians is your thing there are more than enough of them working in holland and the rest of europe for much lower rates. I remember a few years ago I was paying girls 150 for the full night! I am not dumb enough to pay gringo rates. This is rediculous.

Firstly, Langer, you got there at 11pm, that is basically closing time for Luomo, most of the girls are gone. I think it is officially open to 1am, but after 11pm it is winding down.

4x4 is not as nearly packed as it used to be, possibly because the price is more expensive. A session now is R$250 for the 40 minute option and R$ 270 for the 60 minute session. I was there the other night and the bill was R$300. That is basically Luomo prices.

Centaraus. You can still just pay the entrance upon entry, rather than the R$ 450 upfront. Entrance is R$ 140 from memory although I may be off by R$10. Need a really great session from a smoking hot babe to justify those prices.

Cancun. Nice action there of late and cheaper to R$230 for entrance & 40 minute session etc. Facilities way better than 4x4. Went there last week, tab was R$250, decent price, decent session and excellent facilities. For me outright price is not important, I can afford pretty much any club in the world every day of the week, however perceived value is important. Cancun is good value for me.

Luomo, Monte Carlo, Salarium all $310 for entrance and a 40 minute session, although you can get a R$70 discount sometimes when they have specials. Went to Monte Carlo the other day and it was a horror show, really sad actually, the girls on the street were more attractive outside and that is saying something. Preceived value at Monte Carlo is terrible.

Went to Terma 31 last week. R$10 entrance, R$90 30 minute session, R$ 110 40 minute, R$ 130 60 minute session. Facilities not great but passable, seen worse, much worse. End up grabbing a Mulatta, everything was on the menu, face maybe 7.5, body strong 9! Bunda so firm you could throw a quarter at it and it would bounce right back at you. Big titties too. Session was not as initimate as one would get from say Luomo, but hey - banging a banging mulatta with titas and ass like that for only R$120 TOTAL. Can't beat that actually. Terma 31 Rua Alcantara Machado 31, Centro. it is basically 1000 yards from Uruguaina station, on the other side of President Vegas - which is the main street. There are probably 5 other similar priced T's within 200 yards of this place. Including MV 30 - Rua Mayrink Veiga 30 (100 yards from T 31- but slight more expensive). America is close as well, Rua Visconde de Inhauma 105. For late on in the night Boate Subsolo is also in the area, have to take them to the hotel accross the road which is R$25 for a couple of hours, girls will want R$200 but R$80 is the standard price every brazilian guy will pay. I took a girl from this place 2 weeks ago. She wanted R$250 - I countered with R$80, she lowered to R$200 - I countered with R$80, she lowered again to R$150. I just said look every girl goes for R$80 lets go. She said yes, was totally crap in the room but she had a reallyn nice ass and took it in the butt. Not the best session of ones life but was proud of myself for getting the Brazilian prices. The longer I live in Brazil the more I haggle for the correct price - perceived value is what it is all about.

Didn't really want to give an update to some of the places I have been of late, but once one starts to type one get rant on a bit. Rant over........

[Bubba Boy]

Firstly, Langer, you got there at 11pm, that is basically closing time for Luomo, most of the girls are gone. I think it is officially open to 1am, but after 11pm it is winding down.

4x4 is not as nearly packed as it used to be, possibly because the price is more expensive. A session now is R$250 for the 40 minute option and R$ 270 for the 60 minute session. I was there the other night and the bill was R$300. That is basically Luomo prices.

Centaraus. You can still just pay the entrance upon entry, rather than the R$ 450 upfront. Entrance is R$ 140 from memory although I may be off by R$10. Need a really great session from a smoking hot babe to justify those prices.

Cancun. Nice action there of late and cheaper to R$230 for entrance & 40 minute session etc. Facilities way better than 4x4. Went there last week, tab was R$250, decent price, decent session and excellent facilities. For me outright price is not important, I can afford pretty much any club in the world every day of the week, however perceived value is important. Cancun is good value for me.

Luomo, Monte Carlo, Salarium all $310 for entrance and a 40 minute session, although you can get a R$70 discount sometimes when they have specials. Went to Monte Carlo the other day and it was a horror show, really sad actually, the girls on the street were more attractive outside and that is saying something. Preceived value at Monte Carlo is terrible.

Went to Terma 31 last week. R$10 entrance, R$90 30 minute session, R$ 110 40 minute, R$ 130 60 minute session. Facilities not great but passable, seen worse, much worse. End up grabbing a Mulatta, everything was on the menu, face maybe 7.5, body strong 9! Bunda so firm you could throw a quarter at it and it would bounce right back at you. Big titties too. Session was not as initimate as one would get from say Luomo, but hey - banging a banging mulatta with titas and ass like that for only R$120 TOTAL. Can't beat that actually. Terma 31 Rua Alcantara Machado 31, Centro. it is basically 1000 yards from Uruguaina station, on the other side of President Vegas - which is the main street. There are probably 5 other similar priced T's within 200 yards of this place. Including MV 30 - Rua Mayrink Veiga 30 (100 yards from T 31- but slight more expensive). America is close as well, Rua Visconde de Inhauma 105. For late on in the night Boate Subsolo is also in the area, have to take them to the hotel accross the road which is R$25 for a couple of hours, girls will want R$200 but R$80 is the standard price every brazilian guy will pay. I took a girl from this place 2 weeks ago. She wanted R$250 - I countered with R$80, she lowered to R$200 - I countered with R$80, she lowered again to R$150. I just said look every girl goes for R$80 lets go. She said yes, was totally crap in the room but she had a reallyn nice ass and took it in the butt. Not the best session of ones life but was proud of myself for getting the Brazilian prices. The longer I live in Brazil the more I haggle for the correct price - perceived value is what it is all about.

Didn't really want to give an update to some of the places I have been of late, but once one starts to type one get rant on a bit. Rant over........

[SlimHoleDrill]

Well I got back to Rio last week after spending 18 months in Argentina. Last night myself and my wingman went late about 11 to Luomo. Oh dear it has gone downhill, they changed the layout the loungers are gone, pity had some great sessions on them!! Bar was empty except for one other guy and about 9 girls. The girls were lacking in energy maybe it was because it was late but no atmosphere. anyway my friend banged a nice little dark haired girl and I went with my old friend Loita. Average session, Anal BBBJCIM not bad but just ok.

Q: I've been away, things have changed HELP, Rio Antigo etc have closed. Where is the therma action at? I will try VM, BA85 etc, but they while cheap I'd like something more upper class!

I don't like Balcony or escorts etc.

Off to 4 X 4 tonight will let you know how things are there.

Hate to say it but I broke my rule and went to Centaurus the other night and it was packed. Probably 25 -30 customers, but maybe 50 or 60 girls? Lot's of stunners. I ran into some old friends from MC and L'uomo there too (garotas, that is).

I broke my rule because I did a little math and realized that it was not that much more than what you might spend in the other places. It is a flat R450 to enter and one session. But, drinks are relatively cheap. A caiprinha was only R6. So if you go in for a big time and buy the girls drinks, you can easily spend R400 at L'uomo. But it depends on the drink -- RB and absolute is up there at Centaurus. On the other hand, went to L'uomo last week, got the early discount, bought a few drinks but got out for less than R300. It is a long way from 22 -- in just about every way!

So, despite the prices, Centaurus has the most action going down in Zona Sul. Kind of backwards to what you might think. Haven't been to 4X4 in a while, but I am sure it is packed from 5 onwards. Get there early if you can.

[Langer]

Well I got back to Rio last week after spending 18 months in Argentina. Last night myself and my wingman went late about 11 to Luomo. Oh dear it has gone downhill, they changed the layout the loungers are gone, pity had some great sessions on them!! Bar was empty except for one other guy and about 9 girls. The girls were lacking in energy maybe it was because it was late but no atmosphere. anyway my friend banged a nice little dark haired girl and I went with my old friend Loita. Average session, Anal BBBJCIM not bad but just ok.

Q: I've been away, things have changed HELP, Rio Antigo etc have closed. Where is the therma action at? I will try VM, BA85 etc, but they while cheap I'd like something more upper class!

I don't like Balcony or escorts etc.

Off to 4 X 4 tonight will let you know how things are there.

[Langer]

For example who would think women in the UK are big in infidelity?

Christ man UK women are total sluts!!

[Hughdad]

PP,

I really enjoy your trip reports.

But if Peace1 wants a "porn star" that's great.

Some one has to help support the aging GDP population.

R4M4E

PP was trying save him the hassle and some $. And give him a better experience. That's all.

[Hughdad]

Great report. It is refreshing to read an insightful report that have nothing to do with ramming your tongue up someone's ass.

[SlimHoleDrill]

Bem feito - your report is spot-on!!!!

Carlos

Agree 100%. That's why I said they are up to more than they might admit -- speaking of the professional and "upper class" in particular. Also, the special arrangements thing is right on. I know of several such arrangements. Ever see the movie "The Apartment"? I know a group of retired guys who have this going on right now. They share the expense and divide the time. The place is just a few blocks from their own apartments, but they have it to get away from their wives. Since they are retired, they don't go to the office and so have little excuse for extra curricular activities. Another one can't afford that so he chats up Zona Sul checkout girls as he goes through the line. He finds one that is willing and she stops by his place after work, does him, gets to have a drink and shower before getting on the bus and collects some Rs as well. Everybody wins, no big deal and I am sure she does not consider herself GDP. I know a taxi drive who claims to have made deals for a coke. I've had opportunities like this too, but have avoided regular setups for my own reasons.

Now, I never knew any gringos that have these sorts of thing going on in the English part of the world. I'm sure it happens, but not like in Brazil.

My ruminations involved what happens to the real GDPs and it is nothing more than that: just curiosity, a rhetorical question. Then you look at the active ones and wonder what will happen with them.

[SlimHoleDrill]

Bem feito - your report is spot-on!!!!

Carlos

Agree 100%. That's why I said they are up to more than they might admit -- speaking of the professional and "upper class" in particular. Also, the special arrangements thing is right on. I know of several such arrangements. Ever see the movie "The Apartment"? I know a group of retired guys who have this going on right now. They share the expense and divide the time. The place is just a few blocks from their own apartments, but they have it to get away from their wives. Since they are retired, they don't go to the office and so have little excuse for extra curricular activities. Another one can't afford that so he chats up Zona Sul checkout girls as he goes through the line. He finds one that is willing and she stops by his place after work, does him, gets to have a drink and shower before getting on the bus and collects some Rs as well, Everybody wins, no big deal and I am sure she does not consider herself GDP. I know a taxi drive who claims to have made deals for a coke.

Now, I never knew any gringos that have that sort of thing going on.

My ruminations involved what happens to the real GDPs and it is nothing more than that: just curiosity, a rhetorical question. Then you look at the active ones and wonder what will happen with them.

[Carlos Primeros]

Bem feito - your report is spot-on!!!!

Carlos

[Bubba Boy]

Jake's post is an spot on in the difference between cultures. Anglo (american and English) cultures tend to be much more conservative whereas European and latin cultures are a lot more liberal. Myself being European, tend to think Brazilian sexual attitudes are much closer to normal than what I think the Anglo settled countries are.

[Jake993]

So, the "normal" Brasileiras may be up to more than people think.

SHD,
Good observations.
I lived in Brazil during the early 90's so I will admit that my data may be a bit dated. But I have been traveling regularly to Brazil on business so I am somewhat current on attitudes and social conventions. And considering I am a member on this forum with more than a few posts, you can assume where "MY" attitudes are concerning this subject.

I am lucky enough to travel extensively around the world on business and so I am in a position where I can compare relative attitudes and cultures so I can say with a high degree of confidence that Brazilians (men and women) are pretty normal on a world scale when it comes to attitudes on extra-marital relations and general attitudes on sex. I would suggest that we (and I am making a big assumption that you belong to the same relative demographic that I do) come from a society where the hypocrisy of sexual relations between men and women (married or not) skews our thinking when we look at other cultures.

Back in the 90's I worked in a large office of local Brazilian professionals as the only gringo and went to parties, BBQ's, office parties, and after work happy hours with my work mates. People paired up all the time and on a relatively casual basis and it was all kept pretty cool. If we heard about Alvaro banging the Maria the receptionist because her husband was out of work and was not in the mood for sex, no big deal. It was life. Maria was a good looking woman in the prime of her sexual life and she needed attention. Did it affect their office relationship? Not so much. Certainly not as much as I would have expected coming from Norte America.

OK - I am straying off topic a little. You posed the question about maids and shop girls possibly being ex-GDP. Well, that's a complicated question and depends on how you define it. Do these girls ever have sex and receive financial compensation from their partners who are financially better off? You bet they did. Did they consider themselves GDP? Not necessarily. Receiving financial consideration (or assistance) does not necessarily constitute prostitution the way we thing of it an the Anglo-Saxon sense of the act. Many other cultures (Brazilian included) don't necessarily consider the exchange of goods or cash for sex as the "test" for prostitution.

Let me give you an example. Back in the day, I worked in an office on Praca Floriano in Centro. A few times a week I used to go down to the sandwich shop near the Opera House and get ham or turkey on a baguette. the same cute little Mineira (from Ouro Preto) used to make the sandwich, smile and flirt making fun of the way I butchered the Portuguese language. After several months she told me that since I was such a busy man she would be happy to bring the sandwich to my office personally if could wait until 2:00 PM. I will spare you the details but for about 6 months she used to come once a week or so, deliver the sandwich, lock the door to my office and screw my brains out for 30 minutes or so. Luckily I had a private bathroom so it was all quite civilized from an office hygiene perspective. The first time it happened I was pleasantly surprised, but after the second or third week, she gently suggested that times were hard (inflation was 32% per month back then) and that her pay check didn't buy what it used to. Since I was on an expat hitch and my paycheck was being deposited in the USA, it was not a big stretch for me to give her some cash to ease her life. But being a relatively naive gringo, I was worried that she might think I was disrespecting her by treating her as a prostitute by offering her money. In hindsight, it seems funny now because she laughed it off and told me I was being silly. she was fucking me because she like me and she was horny. Her husband drank too much and couldn't get it up. If I wanted to give her some cash to "ease her daily struggle", it was up to me.

I may have been naive, but I wasn't stupid. I discreetly gave her cash from that time forward and for several months we had our weekly rendezvous. I always made sure my secretary was out on lunch break and i let "sanduiche girl" in and out of my office through my side door so as not to spare her humiliation (more mine than her I suppose). Did she consider herself a prostitute or a GDP? Not a chance.

So what's my point? (yes, I do have a point) Brazilians, like a lot of other people around the world take sexual relations in stride. Some like to fuck a lot, some don't. If they have a itch, they scratch. While Brasileiras are as capable of excessive drama as the next girl, I think they hold things in perspective better than your average American, Brit, Kiwi, Aussie, Canadian. Russians seem to have the same attitude as Brazilians. Sex is sex. And if you are economically advantaged and can share some dosh, then it's appreciated.

Anyhow - that's just my 2 cruzeiros worth, sorry - 2 Reals worth.