Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Vagabundo1]

Senor nounce, I concur, and thanks for the analysis.

The simple fact is that if you are here, you see that the same girls work in prives as in boates, it's just a matter of which hours they want. Tier 1 prives like bel prazer have the same girls as boates like 4 x4 who started in VM -- indeed, the new porn star lorena green in some of the new videos by the porn actor / director mambo perv on analvids.com specifically was identified to me as a girl who worked in VM and in a boate.

You also realize the same girls who work in solarium one week are in perola negra the other week.

But that said, the customer is always right. If he paid for the girl and he had a good roll in the hay, it's a rounding error on what a rich world investor sees in daily profit and loss, even if he picked the most expensive girl at 4 x4, which may be the optimal place to run said investments, reclining on the lawn chairs in the steam room, which is the ideal place to get numbers, the paying customers who pay full price for a hour be damned, the long term intelligent investor gets the same pussy for a full night for the same price. That customer, the vagabundo, is always right too!

I think it depends on the context. Let's look at it as a math problem, and these are some variables.

Lodging:

Out of your own pocket or paid by work

Transportation:

Out of your own pocket or paid by work

Food

Out of your own pocket or paid by work

Girl

How many times do you have paid sex a year. (total session cost) is roughly (session cost ) x (session count)

.

These are some variables the determine the total cost. I think out of pocket cost is different for each person. One has to look at the number to see if it makes sense. Obviously, most people will pay the girl out of their own pocket but if the trip is paid by work, then one can pay more for the girl. If one's time here is short, one pays more for one's time.

If one is here 6 months and has one or two sessions a day, then it is ideal to reduce session cost. The prives offer the lowest base price so it makes sense. The prives often is the first stop for new girls, so are other places. One only needs one girl so it does not matter even most are ugly. One can grab the fresh one, then wait for opportunity to upgrade. There are many people value freshness over look.

Personally, the look becomes far less important when the sex is really good so I start to look for great sex, instead of the best looking girls but I will still try when I meet one. LOL

[Questner]

I found a way to bypass the exit fee when you take a girl out of Dolce Vita. (DV charges either 75 or 100 R to take a girl out of the club with you, I think it's called a "desperta" fee on your bill).

The best way to bypass the fee? Just go up to the desk by yourself when you are paying the bill, don't have the garota standing next to you at the desk. When you get your receipt, go grab your girl and walk out of the club. They are not going to stop you at the bottom and make you go back upstairs to pay the fee. I did this multiple times on my trip last month and never had an issue, in addition, I ifigured they owed me money from all the times they ripped me off in the past.

Good News: I think someone must have said something to the owner / manager. The blonde woman who normally works the desk wasnt there for there during my entire vacation. They have some young guy working the desk now. I still go over the bill but he hasnt tried to rip me off the way the woman constantly did.

Are we talking about freelance girls? Do they have some sort of arrangement with DV? Do they pay entry fee? What are the terms as explained to you as a customer?

[Axel Heyst]

Wrong. The girls are not their workers. The girls are freelance and go to the club to pick up tricks. It is just a normal club but they try to charge a guy if he leaves with one of the chicks that are inside looking for customers.

Every girl you see in Scandallo, Bomboa, Casarao is a FL too, but that does not stop the boate from charging customers a takeaway fee in lieu of the in-house hotel fee. The girls have to abide by certain time rules set by the boate, but only if they want to gain free entry to the club. A lot of the top tier girls don't give a shit about that and show up whenever they feel like it and yeah, they pay the entry fee which I believe at Scandallo is 200 BR or 250 BR except on special entertainment nights when a girl's entry fee is upped to 500 BR.

[Anaggie]

I think it depends on the context. Let's look at it as a math problem, and these are some variables.

Lodging:

Out of your own pocket or paid by work

Transportation:

Out of your own pocket or paid by work

Food

Out of your own pocket or paid by work

Girl

How many times do you have paid sex a year. (total session cost) is roughly (session cost ) x (session count)

.

These are some variables the determine the total cost. I think out of pocket cost is different for each person. One has to look at the number to see if it makes sense. Obviously, most people will pay the girl out of their own pocket but if the trip is paid by work, then one can pay more for the girl. If one's time here is short, one pays more for one's time.

If one is here 6 months and has one or two sessions a day, then it is ideal to reduce session cost. The prives offer the lowest base price so it makes sense. The prives often is the first stop for new girls, so are other places. One only needs one girl so it does not matter even most are ugly. One can grab the fresh one, then wait for opportunity to upgrade. There are many people value freshness over look.

Personally, the look becomes far less important when the sex is really good so I start to look for great sex, instead of the best looking girls but I will still try when I meet one. LOL

Completely agree. And that is why I added "to each his own".

[Nounce]

...I have to agree with your views of the prives. It never made sense to me to do all that legwork just to bang someone who is a 3 to a 5....

I think it depends on the context. Let's look at it as a math problem, and these are some variables.

Lodging:

Out of your own pocket or paid by work

Transportation:

Out of your own pocket or paid by work

Food

Out of your own pocket or paid by work

Girl

How many times do you have paid sex a year. (total session cost) is roughly (session cost ) x (session count)

.

These are some variables the determine the total cost. I think out of pocket cost is different for each person. One has to look at the number to see if it makes sense. Obviously, most people will pay the girl out of their own pocket but if the trip is paid by work, then one can pay more for the girl. If one's time here is short, one pays more for one's time.

If one is here 6 months and has one or two sessions a day, then it is ideal to reduce session cost. The prives offer the lowest base price so it makes sense. The prives often is the first stop for new girls, so are other places. One only needs one girl so it does not matter even most are ugly. One can grab the fresh one, then wait for opportunity to upgrade. There are many people value freshness over look.

Personally, the look becomes far less important when the sex is really good so I start to look for great sex, instead of the best looking girls but I will still try when I meet one. LOL

[Vagabundo1]

Layla Darkroom, Emporio -- Saturday special.

Vagabundo and a ISG wingman went to centro today via metro (see below for a transcript of the banter on the zap group). First we hit emporio, where Vagabundo did a 19 year old mulatta, super nice ass, porn star quality bod, but predictably, so so performance, BBBJ (going back and forth with a joint and my dick in her mouth, which the girls appreciate, just make sure the air is running before the session starts). Bending over a girl with an ass this fine is like taking a 18 year old kira noir doggy style, and while fucking her with my (covered unfortunately) bratwurst, I shot a wad into the latex (skyn brand always in Brazil). That's 90 reais, or 18 dollars or less.

Then we had some pasta at spoleto, always recommended. Rua do rosario 135.

Then we went up to darkroom.com.br, where I hit a negra with a super hot bunda, layla. Much better performance from the 26 year old! DFK, nasty hot BBBJ (garganta profunda, chupa meu saco, ie, deep throat, suck my balls). Bent her over and fucked her, while telling her how I wanted to take her to a swing with barbara, a white girl who said she preferred to be submissive in duplas, who I said we would make her escrava (slave) in a show ao vivo (live sex show). Layla has a super nice ass, and is good people and the sex, even in a half hour is good and as hot and nasty as you want to be. My wingman wanted her number, and I got it for him, even though he does not like the cabines at darkroom, which I can understand. You can hear the customer fucking the girl next door loudly. On the plus side as I commented upon below, one could run a business on the wifi at darkroom from the bar, which other prives lack, not to mention from 4 x4, which is better than sitting inside one's room and running a business from either barra or anywhere in the world. If that nasty, pasty FTX crew had a few real brazilian girls to bang not those other nasty pasty nerds in the Bahamas, I am sure they would have done much better in their actual crypto trading and would still be afloat as they would better understand the value of a dollar in relation to the BRL exchange rate.

Layla. Yet another winner at Darkroom. I hate the need to get a stupid card everytime one enters, but I also understand security, so it goes.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=EOs0qeiJyIg

"Layla".

("Crossroads" Version).

See if you can spot this one?

What will you do when you get lonely.

No one waiting by your side?

You've been running, hiding much too long.

You know it's just your foolish pride.

Layla, got me on my knees.

Layla, begging, darling, please Layla.

Darling, won't you ease my worried mind?

Tried to give you consolation.

Your old man had let you down.

Like a fool, I fell in love with you.

You turned my whole world upside down.

Layla, got me on my knees.

Layla, I'm begging, darling, please Layla.

Darling, won't you ease my worried mind?

Make the best of the situation.

Before I finally go insane.

Please don't say we'll never find a way.

Tell me all my love's in vain.

Layla, got me on my knees.

Layla, I'm begging, darling, please Layla.

Darling, won't you ease my worried mind?

(Yeah, yeah).

Layla, got me on my knees.

Layla, begging, darling, please Layla.

Darling, won't you ease my worried mind?

(Yeah, yeah).

Layla, got me on my knees.

Layla, begging, darling, please Layla.

Darling, won't you ease my worried mind?

Layla, got me on my knees.

Layla, begging, darling, please Layla.

Darling, won't you ease my worried mind?

Thank you.

8:51 AM, 1/7/2023 Professor Jose: who wants to do centro prives, 90 r for 30 minute specials today?

8:53 AM, 1/7/2023 : wtf is that green stuff on the beach.

8:54 AM, 1/7/2023 first time in Rio in which I saw these.

9:00 AM, 1/7/2023 how fo the prives on centro work?

9:00 AM, 1/7/2023 I never went.

:30 AM, 1/7/2023 You go, girls line up, you pick a girl, 90 reais Half hour, Saturday special, go on metro and get off at metro uruguiana, 12-3 are hours. Meet at metro jardim oceanico at 11 h.

9:30 AM, 1/7/2023 Prives are the sweet spot of the market.

9:36 AM, 1/7/2023 If SP had a beach it would be different 😁.

9:38 AM, 1/7/2023 Santos beach is a 90 minute Uber away. That is closest. The whole experience is the thing for me. Yes sex on demand but also the beach before and after and swimming etc.

9:40 AM, 1/7/2023 Everyone has a different list, having lived in my top 4. I would say MDE is a distant 4th or maybe even 5th (I have lived in MDE). And I say that as an absolute lover of Latin women.

9:40 AM, 1/7/2023 Porto allegre is underrated, and so is Florida.

9:41 AM, 1/7/2023: Floripa.

9:41 AM, 1/7/2023: lets make that 11:30.

10:03 AM, 1/7/2023: K.

10:04 AM, 1/7/2023: But Santos is really crap compare to Rio. So corrupted. Majority of high level paulista don't go here anymore. Bars and restaurant offers is low.

In sex there is Nothing at all. 2 Poor clubs I tried with few girls. Nothing on website either. Forums like Gpguia or cucuta have a litoral section which is empty.

10:56 AM, 1/7/2023:11:30 meeting metro jardim oceanico still stands?

10:59 AM, 1/7/2023: Yes.

10:59 AM, 1/7/2023: alright see you there.

11:20 AM, 1/7/2023: In station.

11:28 AM, 1/7/2023: Waiting down by tracks platform 2 direction uruguai.

11:29 AM, 1/7/2023: how do I get in.

11:29 AM, 1/7/2023: I will wait by turnstile.

11:29 AM, 1/7/2023: You need a card.

11:30 AM, 1/7/2023 I'm here.

11:38 AM, 1/7/2023: Vagabundo and chege headed to darkroom and emporio do banho.

2:24 PM, 1/7/2023 As far as coworking spaces in Rio Centro, darkroom and 4 x4 have wifi and are motivational spaces to work.

[Mr Enternational]

Surely you are only doing this to get back at the club for prior ripoffs? You wouldn't really begrudge them $20 US for taking one of their workers off the market would you? I would think they need those $20 to keep things running at a fairly prime location right?

Wrong. The girls are not their workers. The girls are freelance and go to the club to pick up tricks. It is just a normal club but they try to charge a guy if he leaves with one of the chicks that are inside looking for customers.

[Steve 9696]

I found a way to bypass the exit fee when you take a girl out of Dolce Vita. (DV charges either 75 or 100 R to take a girl out of the club with you, I think it's called a "desperta" fee on your bill).

The best way to bypass the fee? Just go up to the desk by yourself when you are paying the bill, don't have the garota standing next to you at the desk. When you get your receipt, go grab your girl and walk out of the club. They are not going to stop you at the bottom and make you go back upstairs to pay the fee. I did this multiple times on my trip last month and never had an issue, in addition, I ifigured they owed me money from all the times they ripped me off in the past.

Good News: I think someone must have said something to the owner / manager. The blonde woman who normally works the desk wasnt there for there during my entire vacation. They have some young guy working the desk now. I still go over the bill but he hasnt tried to rip me off the way the woman constantly did.

Surely you are only doing this to get back at the club for prior ripoffs? You wouldn't really begrudge them $20 US for taking one of their workers off the market would you? I would think they need those $20 to keep things running at a fairly prime location right?

[Axel Heyst]

I've been to scandallo, and Perola, and I would tell you:

The best girls at Perola like Penelope are just as good or better than the girls at Scandallo -- but there is no beach in SP. Further, the best girls at the best prives in RJ are as good as the top SP girls.

Hi Vagabundo, I will agree with you that there is some degree of overlap between not only a terma like Perola or my favorite Solarium and Scandallo, but also between an SP Clinica like Prime and Scandallo. For example, I once me a very pretty girl at Prime. She was wonderful. I felt she could easily have found a niche in the girl next door, Tier 2 category at Scandallo. But for some reason she chose to work at Prime where her cut of the 240 BR hourly session rate was around 120 BR vs. What she could have earned roughly 500 to 700 per session at Scandallo. Go figure. Maybe she felt more comfortable at Prime. Maybe she did not think she was good looking enough to make it work at Scandallo. All I know is she was a real find and I liked her a lot.

I understand, there is more money and higher prices so that attracts the best girls from all over Brazil, so you can argue that SP has better talent, especially if your tastes are not for negras and mulattas.

I like girls from all ethnic backgrounds. One of the great things about Brazil is the variety of girls to choose from. But that said, I do have my preferences. I prefer slender, sexy, all natural girls with pretty faces and with friendly personalities to match. I do not like big butts or silly cones although if a girl has a really pretty face and her fake tits are reasonable, I will say let's get it on.

That said, look at Barravips or Riosexsite.

https://barravipsrio.com/

Correlate those top tier girls with good reviews on gpguia and gparena.

And make your list.

Barravips, ClubModel, and MClass definitely have some top tier girls and I am sure some of these girls have worked at Scandallo or Bomboa. But once a girl achieves a certain level of clients there is little reason for her to show up at the Boate every night. They only come to the club when they feel like it. One of my favorite MClass girls, a really lovely girl, has been in Spain for 6 months. She must be raking in the cash. Another one I met at Scandallo is currently in India. India! She tells me she gets $1000 US / hour from her wealthy Indian gentlemen clients.

You can only fuck so many girls in a week or however long your trip is. RJ is a megacity of 12 m and SP of 20 m. You can't fuck all the girls on Barravipsrio.com in your trip and say that Rio doesn't have the same talent as Scandallo.

I think we are talking about 2 different things. While it is absolutely true that many BarraVips RJ girls could easily fit right in and do well at Scandallo, the issue for me is that I prefer to go out to find my girls rather than order in. It is the same story for me in SP, namely that there are some very attractive Tier 1 girls advertising their wares on BarraVips SP, MClass, & ClubModel, but I prefer to go out to find what I am looking for.

But I have noted that in the past you have posted about the number of BarraVip RJ girls that live at Hotel TransAmerica in Barra the Tijuca, so one night I chose to session with a BarraVip RJ girl at her place at TransAmerica. It turned out to be an interesting and productive night. After I said goodbye to my BarraVips girl, I hung around outside the TransAmerica near the bar. There were 4 girls inside and a couple of guys. An attractive blond walked outside the bar to have a smoke. She was wearing very tight-fitting jeans and I liked her look. So, I saw my opening and I approached her to ask to borrow her lighter for my Cohiba club mini cigar. We got to talking and the vibe was light and friendly. Ha Ha. Like you suggested, this is a great way to meet these girls.

I've been to Scandallo, and the girls there are not any better than the top girls at Perola and Solarium and 4 x4 (if you actually live here, you realize they all go back and forth, and now, the best rio girls are going to SP, because they can find bigger suckers -- oh, I mean clients to pay them more in SP).

I agree, as I have said, there are some terma girls that could easily do well at Scandallo or Bomboa. They are not be what I consider Tier One model quality girls like a some hot BarraVips girls are, but rather what I call Tier 2 sexy girl next door types. Now don't get wrong, I find these Tier 2 types very attractive. I am just noting a difference in quality that is obvious to me at first glance. BTW, My favorite Scandallo girl is a Tier 2 sexy girl next door type and I just love her.

But my point is that when I am at Solarium, for example, I might like the look of 3 maybe 4 girls on a good night. Meanwhile on any Wednesday thru Friday night at Scandallo, except a national holiday night, I will see a combined total of say 25 to 40 Tier 1 & Tier 2 type girls that I like the look of out of a grand total of say 140 girls available. I can't shag them all, KKK, but having this huge selection of attractive girls to choose from is fantastic, and it means I can easily have a different quality girl or different quality girls (plural) every time I go to this Boate. And that is fucking amazing! How many honky tonks in the world can you do this at?

I realize that we are in different positions. You are a resident ex-pat and can enjoy one of the major benefits of your status which is having a super large file of WhatsApp numbers to choose from on any given night including national holiday nights. I, on the other hand, am a visitor so no matter how long my visits last; 6 weeks to 11 weeks or how many cumulative nights I have spent in Brazil; almost 6 months from April 2021 to November 2022 I remain basically a tourist. Still, I have my favorite repeat girls which include a couple of BarraVips, MClass, and ClubModel girls, but it is mostly composed of Boate girls. My favorite repeat girls take up at least half my nights in SP. They come to me, and I no longer have to contribute to their Boates. But I love variety and I like to get out on the town, so I wind up spending the other half of my travel time hunting for new girls at Scandallo, Bomboa, Casarao, and Bahamas. I love the hunt. You must too, but I don' t know how you managed to stay free and unencumbered considering all the time you have lived in RJ. I think I would have fallen for a local civilian by now if I were you. Ha Ha.

And for hot young girls of all colors, there is VM, and there you just take them to motel malaga or quintal real if you don't want to do the first fuck at VM.

Anyway, I've blocked all the usual suspects that I go back and forth with, and I don't really care -- the customer is always right, I've learned to say. But Rio is the best city in the world for mongering, IMHO, because of the beach, the waterfalls, the food, the culture, carnival, and the Rio attitude of Libertines. SP is business. And if you need to go to SP, it is a 50 dollar or less bus or plane ride away.

This is what makes things interesting. It would be a very strange, monolithic world if we all agreed on who has the prettiest faces, the sexiest body types, the best bordellos & clubs, and the best cities to play our game. You prefer RJ. I prefer SP. I also like BKK, Jakarta, Pattaya, Phnom Penh, Macau, Manila, RJ, Yangon, AC, and even Singapore (Geylang, Brix, and Ipanema at the OT). I have not made it to the VM yet, but I will eventually go there to see what you are talking about. KKK.

Rock on,

A. H.

[Mr Enternational]

I found a way to bypass the exit fee when you take a girl out of Dolce Vita. (DV charges either 75 or 100 R to take a girl out of the club with you, I think it's called a "desperta" fee on your bill).

The best way to bypass the fee? Just go up to the desk by yourself when you are paying the bill, don't have the garota standing next to you at the desk. When you get your receipt, go grab your girl and walk out of the club.

Why not just tell the girl to meet you outside?

[Bravo]

I found a way to bypass the exit fee when you take a girl out of Dolce Vita. (DV charges either 75 or 100 R to take a girl out of the club with you, I think it's called a "desperta" fee on your bill).

The best way to bypass the fee? Just go up to the desk by yourself when you are paying the bill, don't have the garota standing next to you at the desk. When you get your receipt, go grab your girl and walk out of the club. They are not going to stop you at the bottom and make you go back upstairs to pay the fee. I did this multiple times on my trip last month and never had an issue, in addition, I figured they owed me money from all the times they ripped me off in the past.

Good News: I think someone must have said something to the owner / manager. The blonde woman who normally works the desk wasn't there for there during my entire vacation. They have some young guy working the desk now. I still go over the bill but he hasn't tried to rip me off the way the woman constantly did.

[Anaggie]

And back to our feature presentation.

Great report and I truly enjoyed reading it!!

I have to agree with your views of the prives. It never made sense to me to do all that legwork just to bang someone who is a 3 to a 5 . But to each his own. I also feel that Rio gets real boring real quick. I prefer spending my time in SP. The women are hotter and the food is definitely better.

Reading your report is getting me excited for my trip in February.

[Explorer8939]

I went with my Thai lady friend to the Casablanca boate. It's expensive, the cheaprst lady drink is a 100 real bottle of champagne. A glass of whiskey with Coke is 500 reals. Entrance is 100 reals, which includes 2 drinks.

The bar opens at 22.00, but things don't get going until midnight. There are infrequent naked pole dances.

There are rooms in the back if you must go with a lady.

Oops. Regular drinks are 50 reales, not 500. But beer is available for 25, which is the drink of choice.

[Vagabundo1]

Week in baseball, noemie Michelle Obama bilas pernoite, ano novo.

So Vagabundo was a little hungover from ano novo. I took my girl and her friend and we went to copa for new years, last Saturday. We took a uber, with a bag of whiskey (old parr is her fav), red bull, and ice to a drop off point where we walked from posto 6 to copa palace where her other friends met us, and we did a foot patrol through the throng to a spot next to a band and PM station. I sang the Swiss Naval Infantry Anthem 4 times, and my high school and college fight songs during the 15 minutes of fireworks, and screamed and yelled and parties, drank whisky and red bull and smoked ganja. Pretty awesome experience, not unlike a mad minute in a defense against a million screaming Chinese hoards at the choosing resevoir, for those of you who have had that kind of experience. Stayed until dawn, saw the first sunrise of the year on copa beach. You should do this if you haven't. Definitely a check the box event. Then we tried and failed to get a cab for a reasonable fare, they were asking 250 reais to barra. So we took a bus. At barra, we took the dog to the beach, which was awesome. Hot ass girls there, Vagabundo being Vagabundo he chatted up the hot SP girls as soon as his girl was at the beach. So we slept, fucked. Repeat, rinse, repeat. 600 r for 3 or 4 days, and at least as much for whisky and churrasco. And so it goes.

Monday, Vagabundo went to centro and picked up Noemie bilas Michelle Obama and went to a hotel, lips, and did a pernoite which was 140 r for the hotel, and 300 for the girl, all bbfscip, just 2-3 hours of sport fucking with 4 pops.

I've been to scandallo, and Perola, and I would tell you:

The best girls at Perola like Penelope are just as good or better than the girls at Scandallo -- but there is no beach in SP. Further, the best girls at the best prives in RJ are as good as the top SP girls.

I understand, there is more money and higher prices so that attracts the best girls from all over Brazil, so you can argue that SP has better talent, especially if your tastes are not for negras and mulattas.

That said, look at Barravips or Riosexsite.

https://barravipsrio.com/

Correlate those top tier girls with good reviews on gpguia and gparena.

And make your list..

[Xpartan]

And back to our feature presentation.

Thanks much!