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04-30-10 07:26 #3966
Posts: 262Originally Posted by Bravo
Be careful snooping around though. It can come back to haunt you. I've thought about doing the same thing myself, but sometimes ignorance is bliss and it's better not to know all the grimy details of these gdp lives.
Anyway, guys are supposed to know at least half the things a hooker tells you are lies or exaggerations. Some of their sob stories are true as many of these women do come from screwed up backgrounds (what kind of women you think enter and stay in this line of work for more than 6 months?).
But the sob stories that end up with a request for money you should automatically suspect. It's up to you if you want to send anything but you should assume it's money spent down the drain, some guys might want to send something just to keep the friendship going.
My advice would be to have a sob story of your own! You "confess" to her that the reality is that most gringos are no better than brasileiros, that many are deeply in debt including you, that this is why the world financial crisis started and that you too were hit hard by the crisis; and you can't possibly send her any large sum right now but maybe in a few months when your financial situation has stabilized.
If you want to keep the relationship going, you throw in that "maybe later" line and/or send no more than 200 reais. I personally wouldn't send any money unless I REALLY liked her and want to continue being with her on my next trip, but with some gdps this kind of bs won't occur. And I would never send more than 200 reais which for my situation I consider throwaway cash, sort of a "don't bother me for awhile" money transfer.
The part about gringos being in too much debt is of course partially true, but it's a way to indirectly tell the girl you're not her ATM or her ticket to financial freedom. But you optionally send a little amount of money and mention "maybe more later" to try to string her along/maintain her interest in you (if that's what you really want).
It's also a way to stroke their egos sociopolitically and try to gain some brownie points with the brasileira this way. Let's face reality: many Brazilians have at best conflicting attitudes about Americans (maybe Europeans too).
The gdp in particular suffers a lot of cognitive dissonance: she looks down on her gringo sponsors for being so gullible with their money, yet how can someone so naive have so much discretionary income to begin with? She ends up resenting not only the gringo, but her dependency on him. That's a recipe for some very interesting and intense interactions with your gdp!
I'm curious to hear what others think about these deceptive gdps although I don't think it's worth the potential trouble keeping tabs on them.
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04-30-10 06:31 #3965
Posts: 2345watchman - my apologies - i don't really recommend any tier one termas in rio except for the novelty value. and as novelty value goes, 4x4 has more bells and whistles, that's all. :d
sangue bon and other respected posters commenting with useful info on keylogging. great stuff - i've used a keylogger before but had never thought of getting a garota to access her hotmail account and then using it to read her posts.
the only time i would personally do it would be if she had personally done me harm. to me, invading someone's privacy in this manner is pretty poor show. a sort of 'might is right' attitude which is akin to intellectual [CodeWord123]. one would not like to be on the receiving end of such practices. if i suspected her of doing wrong, checked her keylogs, found her innocent, i would feel mortified. how does not being caught make it ok i would ask myself - it doesn't.
one can object that you have had sex with a gdp, formed a 'relationship,' given or promised her money, accepted her pledges of faithfulness etc. this is a pretty poor argument on at least two counts. a) it is part of the game for her to make you feel special, that's what she does. like telling you you're handsome and you have a big dick - it's best to get over it. you don't keep pet crocodiles and expect them not to eat your chickens, it's against their nature, damn it! b) even if she was not a gdp / promised to cease being a gdp: most normal middle class brasilians have affairs. it's normal. they do not have western hang-ups about it. the only rule is, don't get caught. not to accept that, is simply forcing an unevolved aspect of western morality onto her. if you want her to stay faithful, rely on your ability to judge character, your ability to keep her interested, and above all your ability to be open with her without exposing yourself to risk. if you expect her to give up being a gdp and come to the states and marry you for instance, expect her single-minded devotion to start from when she moves in with you - that's day one in her books. believing anything else is, with due respect, dumb as they come, even with a brain the size of a cosmic intel processor.
the very valuable thing about the posts by sangue bon and bravo is being aware of the technology so you can avoid it happening to you. as someone pointed out some time ago, if you are entering private info such as credit card numbers or crucial material onto a computer not your own, you might want to open the microsoft on-screen keyboard to do so. not complete protection, but a good piece of trench warfare against keylogging.* or some people's laptops .
i'm not saying for one moment that you should accept my morals - as mr wilde would say, if you don't like them i have plenty of others. so please don't bother flaming me - we just disagree on this point, that's all.
best wishes
christopherd.
*for instance, if you suspect the pc in that dodgy internet cafe is not secure
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04-30-10 04:47 #3964
Posts: 27I know what you mean about 4x4 but it is still good value considering the girls there. My favorite terma right now is Solarium. It is better on weeknights as it still has the party atmosphere that is now lacking in other termas like L'uomo. What can be better than a lot of half naked girls mingling, dancing and teasing.
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04-30-10 03:44 #3963
Posts: 46Curiosity and Recommendation
Christopherd,
I asked for curiosity and for recommendations. Like I said, I have been to 4 x 4 several times and I wanted to know what people thought was the next best place to 4 x 4. I actually think that 4 x 4 is a little overrated. Don't get me wrong, there are some incredible girls there but the girl to guy ratio is [CodeWord140] poor pretty often.
For example, I went to 4 x 4 tonight. There were some beautiful women there but my God there were atleast 4 guys to every hottie. That place just gets so crowded that it gets tough to take all the half naked guys all around you.
Originally Posted by Christopherd
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04-30-10 02:23 #3962
Posts: 224Quatro por Quatro aka 4x4 the best mongering institution on earth!!!!
Originally Posted by Watchman4400
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04-30-10 01:26 #3961
Posts: 1535Originally Posted by Sangue Bon
The girl logged in from home for 5 days straight and it gave the same IP address at the bottum, I logged into her account a few days later and it showed a different IP address, thats how she knew I had went into her account.
Another thing I learned from being in IT for many years, is that people do not like to have multiple passwords. So their password for Hotmail, will be the same password they use for their Yahoo, Orkut, Facebook, Myspace, Gmail... etc.
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04-30-10 01:15 #3960
Posts: 358Originally Posted by TJ Fannatic
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04-29-10 23:30 #3959
Posts: 2306Originally Posted by Bravo
Brasil (and not only Rio) has outpriced itself out of the market.
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04-29-10 23:25 #3958
Posts: 2021Originally Posted by Bravo
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04-29-10 23:10 #3957
Posts: 65Originally Posted by Watchman4400
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04-29-10 23:09 #3956
Posts: 2345Originally Posted by Watchman4400
My direct answer would 4x4 - even if the ladies, by some chance, disappoint, it is still an impressive phenomenon, the show, the nooks and crannies. And if I leave, it is walking distance to some other establishments or (if those are disallowed), a short hop to VM.
But the obvious answer if that is the only one you've been to is to try a different one. L'uomo is less of a ripoff IMO than many and is convenient (central Copa, so walk, or get a metro snd it's next door from anywhere else.) I find it lacks atmosphere, compared to say, Cancun. But it has many, many fans. There's a couple of slightly less pricey ones in North Centro. Rua Mairink Veiga 30, for instance, is very reasonable, though sometimes the number of girls on has been small. Just round the corner, at Rua do Acre 61, Aquarios is cheaper still, yet nevertheless has the look and feel of the expensive termas (varies with time if day) and is handy for the likes of Florida if you fancy trying your luck when the sailors bring the girls out to play. But these north Centro places don't compare to the best upmarket termas for luxury. If they only improved the food, I could happily spend 14hrs in 4x4 (as long as someone else offers to pay bill )
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04-29-10 21:41 #3955
Posts: 46If you could visit ONE last Terma which would it be?
Gentlemen,
I am back in Rio for a little fun and sun(not so much fun for the past two days), and I am going to go to a terma today (thursday) and tomorrow Friday. I have only been to 4 x 4.
Here is my question, if you could only go to 1 more terma in your life, which would it be? Thanks in advance for the advice.
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04-29-10 21:29 #3954
Posts: 545It's been here for a while!
Most guys will tell you to read the forum in an impolite manner. You should take some time and read it. Here is Bubba's guide. It's a bit old but it really gives you the blow by blow of what's going to happen. All what you need has been posted here many times. Take some time and look it over. Have fun...
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...chmentid=65086Originally Posted by Dive Monger
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04-29-10 20:19 #3953
Posts: 1535Key Logger Program! Greatest Tool In Rio!!!!
Just got back last friday from an extended trip in rio. I have to say that Copa really sucks now, it is just horrible. Balcony and Doce Vita are just terrible, same 50-60 girls every single night. Even on a slow night, you had between 100-300 girls between TA & Help. The cost of everything has gone thru the roof, Rio is just too expensive a place to visit.
I do have one thing I would like to share with the board. I know some of you guys will not agree with what I did, but I feel just fine with my actions. I installed a KEYLOGGER program on my laptop!! I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT YEARS AGO!!!! If you really want to find out the truth about your "special girl" in rio, have her use your laptop and then go back and see what she is up to. You will find out all kinds of secrets and dirt that you never imagined!
I had one girl that I have known for almost 5 years, I trusted her more than any other GDP in rio. Come to find out, she sent out a mass email out last year saying that her daughter died in a car accident and she needed money to bury her. I would have NEVER thought she would have done something like that, never would have believed it in a million years, until I went into her sent items.
Hell, I even found out some good dirt on my regular girlfriend. I thought she was squeaky clean and I discovered she did some foul shit behind my back too. I wish I wish i had installed that program years ago, it would have saved me alot of money and I could have known how low down and dirty most of these girls are. I have email, facebook and orkut passwords for about 12 females and it is like watching a live soap opera with all the drama and bullshit going on in their lives.
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04-29-10 12:48 #3952
Posts: 65I found a report from back in 2008 about Praia 400 in Barra. It was not a real positive report (no robes, just street clothes, some other details). I think to do a terma properly, I want to get the most traditional experience possible without ending up destitute. I am well aware that everywhere in the world when it comes to P4P, the price is only loosely connected to the looks and service level of the garota; you are more paying for the comfort and luxury of the establishment, the girls are pretty much the same everywhere. But it is like the red ropes places in Zhuhai. The girls don't look much better, on average, than in the BBS, but the rooms have great beds, mirrors, the ropes, etc. And are much more expensive than your basic boink shop.
Thanks for the L'uomo tip. I am more of an early person than a night owl, so the termas being places for afternoons or early evenings works out great.
They have lockers for your stuff then when you get the robe? Do you guys leave everything in the lockers (like in some FKK clubs in Germany) like wallet/cash, phone, etc. Or do you stuff things in pockets in the robe and keep them with you in the boite?
Originally Posted by Ee2002