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  1. #3431
    Quote Originally Posted by Abzsafado
    Are you talking about El Cids?
    I think so - I can never remember the name as I don´t eat there that often, but it is a nice spot of ´normality´in the midst of all the p4p going on all around and constantly walking past in full view. And the food is ok and I don´t have to worry about ´mistakes´on the bill.

  2. #3430
    Quote Originally Posted by slimholedrill
    yeah, you guys are right, it sucks now. no good looking girls, bad attitudes, help is no more, high prices, nobody in the termas etc., etc. i suggest you all stay home and enjoy the delights there. for example, go to ams and enjoy your 15 minutes behind the windows (although i have to admit i have had some good 15 minutes there). or go do your wives and gfs.

    let's talk about reality. for the record, there has been some misinformation spread here. luk, i don't know what you are drinking or smoking, but a caipirinha in l'uomo is r14 not 25 as you have stated (and "confirmed"). i just went there and had a 40 min session, two drinks for me and my girl plus drinks for a couple of old friends and the damage was about r370. (in case you doubt it was 2xcaipirinhas, red bull, 2x amarulo, and jack daniels (for pietra)). imho, comparing prices for 1hr sessions is also misleading. some places put a premium on this becuase it includes the "suite", others like 4x4 sort of "throw it in" for very litte. personally, i almost never go for this except at 4x4 where, truth be told, the hour is more like 45 minutes. ymmv.

    the one thing that is true is that the upper tier places are quiter now. most likely due to the economy but this is fine for me. more selction, no waiting. on the other hand on the lower tier, 22 was hopping. also some smoking ladies there -- but just imho. maybe if you are hung up on the loire, silicone etc. of places like centaurus you would not agree. and if you are expecting air conditioning in the cabine, definitely don't go there.

    rio is what it is. it is not disney land. thank god for that.

    personally, i love it -- good times and bad. and there are no bad times!
    rofl. this equates with my experience, although i basically concentrate on the lower price tier - all brilliant. i never liked silicone land and prefer exploring and working for it than having it dished up disney-style.

    for instance - one night at vm - started with a 19yr old who was obviously too good to be true. hilarious time when i left pockets within reach i knew she would try unsuccessfully to get her hand in. but she was too tight and gripping my hand in different ways with her pussy as we ´argued´ over my trousers i´d given her as a pillow and she even went so far as to ´demonstrate´she was honest afterwards by finding a coin i had dropped for me. this was a classic chase and tease situation and, as long as you could handle it, was a hell of a lot of fun. she also had the best body i´ve seen for ages.

    next that night i went to what i call the tlc bar cos every girl i have ever had there gives gfe. and also nice not having to keep my wits about me - and a nice inside bar for genuine dancing (rather than highspeed booty shaking, which i also like to watch - both better than the very artificial slow-mo stuff served up cicciolina´s). lots of dfk and telling the mama to f off when time was up.

    after catching up with a few girls from years before - bianca who can charm the socks off everyone i´ve taken to vm but once saved the day and maybe my ass in a bar fight standing up to several drunken gringo twats; and luma, a barra girl who i love doing photos with though i didn´t have my camera with me - i see an awesome girl in the second or third casa along. she had expensive blonde hair extensions to her waist, perfectly combined so the joins were invisible. make up 10/10. she looked a figure of perfection, even by rioshopping standards, but she obviously knew it and i didn´t expect a personality to match. i noticed a few of guys would approach her like puppies and go away again. many brasilians only bring enough cash for one girl and a couple of beers. this girl had the cheek to charge an extra r5 over the going rate. i paid. in the room she was very professional, turning on a delicate charm, sensitive caresses, light touches with fingertips and lips. very classy, but with a standard no-no on bbbj (i teased her on completa, but didn´t want to haggle over any extra costs).

    i was buzzing all night.

    second best p4p experience was a wild tln girl who got off on having alcohol rubbed into her pussy. also very pretty, and she pretended for a long time she was not programma.

    but the highlights of my stay - although that night was excellent - were still the technical rehearsals at sambodrome, finding new p4p places, making new brasilian friends, the kindness and time brasilians will take, things we should learn from them instead of exporting our western vision, and finding new experiences. for people who do not like to push boundaries, i am also happy if they find that brasil is no longer for them and seek other sexpat destinations.

  3. #3429

    Rio has changed, right?

    Yeah, you guys are right, it sucks now. No good looking girls, bad attitudes, Help is no more, high prices, nobody in the termas etc., etc. I suggest you all stay home and enjoy the delights there. For example, go to AMS and enjoy your 15 minutes behind the windows (although I have to admit I have had some good 15 minutes there). Or go do your wives and GFs.

    Let's talk about reality. For the record, there has been some misinformation spread here. Luk, I don't know what you are drinking or smoking, but a caipirinha in L'uomo is R14 not 25 as you have stated (and "confirmed"). I just went there and had a 40 min session, two drinks for me and my girl plus drinks for a couple of old friends and the damage was about R370. (In case you doubt it was 2Xcaipirinhas, red bull, 2X Amarulo, and Jack Daniels (for Pietra)). IMHO, comparing prices for 1hr sessions is also misleading. Some places put a premium on this becuase it includes the "suite", others like 4X4 sort of "throw it in" for very litte. Personally, I almost never go for this except at 4X4 where, truth be told, the hour is more like 45 minutes. YMMV.

    The one thing that is true is that the upper tier places are quiter now. Most likely due to the economy but this is fine for me. More selction, no waiting. On the other hand on the lower tier, 22 was hopping. Also some smoking ladies there -- but just IMHO. Maybe if you are hung up on the loire, silicone etc. of places like Centaurus you would not agree. And if you are expecting air conditioning in the cabine, definitely don't go there.

    Rio is what it is. It is not Disney Land. Thank god for that.

    Personally, I love it -- good times and bad. And there are no bad times!

  4. #3428

    They are...

    Different ones. Termas 65 is on Rua do Rosario, which means you have to walk almost an extra block and a half from 4 X 4 to get there. In order to get to Termas 81 you have to cross Rua do Rosario on Rua da Quintada. A few extra steps and you are there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    Thanks...too many termas in too little days, but I was in rua da quintada with my friends, I forgot the exactly number, but at number 65 you have terma 65 right ? ( or meja cinquo in portuguese ).

    So 2 termas at short distance or the same one ?

  5. #3427
    Quote Originally Posted by Voyajer1
    ...The address, Rua da Quintanda 81...
    Thanks...too many termas in too little days, but I was in rua da quintada with my friends, I forgot the exactly number, but at number 65 you have terma 65 right ? ( or meja cinquo in portuguese ).

    So 2 termas at short distance or the same one ?

  6. #3426

    It is less than a block from 4 X 4

    Walk past 4 X 4 coming from Rio Branco and the next cross street will be Rua Da Quintanda. The address, Rua da Quintanda 81 and you are at this Terma. Don't hurt yourself
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    You couldn't describe it better the same last friday

    From MC and L'uomo, but last saturday, not yesterday, 2 were from 4x4 too...

    Guys where is exactly terma 81 ? Address ?

  7. #3425
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    You couldn't describe it better the same last friday

    From MC and L'uomo, but last saturday, not yesterday, 2 were from 4x4 too...

    Guys where is exactly terma 81 ? Address ?
    Rua da Quitanda, 81 - Centro

  8. #3424
    Quote Originally Posted by Voyajer1
    ...While there you could have a Basketball game in the middle of the boite in 4 X 4 while the strip show was going on, it was that empty...
    You couldn't describe it better the same last friday

    From MC and L'uomo, but last saturday, not yesterday, 2 were from 4x4 too...

    Guys where is exactly terma 81 ? Address ?

  9. #3423
    I was in 4x4 on Thrusday and it was not packed when the stirp show was going on which was a good thing as I dont not like cowards. I have hit these Termas 4x4, 81, Meia Cinco a.k.a 65, and Monte Carlo, out of all them 4x4 I will hit again and also 81 since I saw atleast 10-15 garotas 4x4 I would like to sample and atleast 5 in Termas 81 compared to 1-3 in 65 and MC.
    Quote Originally Posted by Voyajer1
    I was there in January and noticed the changed attitudes of the Help GDP's. I know that the closing of Help did have a significant effect in the volume of customers in most of the Termas. I wonder though if things have picked up in any of the Termas. While there you could have a Basketball game in the middle of the boite in 4 X 4 while the strip show was going on, it was that empty. Even though I really did not care for Help one bit, I'm sure they did not see the drop in business coming.

  10. #3422

    Which Termas were they from?

    I was there in January and noticed the changed attitudes of the Help GDP's. I know that the closing of Help did have a significant effect in the volume of customers in most of the Termas. I wonder though if things have picked up in any of the Termas. While there you could have a Basketball game in the middle of the boite in 4 X 4 while the strip show was going on, it was that empty. Even though I really did not care for Help one bit, I'm sure they did not see the drop in business coming.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    Guys I said that one of the bad thing of no more help, was that I thought very hard to see terma girls show up at balcony.....yesterday they were in 6 in 2 small groups from 2 different termas, they stayed free less than couple of minutes as they dress better, walk better, look better in comparison with the ugly dogs balcony girls, but ... I do not understand why a girl should yawn with crossed arms 7-8 hours in terma with no mood to work and then to go to balcony to earn money....and I laugh when I saw them arrive, I was already busy so I did not consider to take one of them and I have no idea about the price they ask for.

  11. #3421

    Errata corrige

    Guys I said that one of the bad thing of no more help, was that I thought very hard to see terma girls show up at balcony.....yesterday they were in 6 in 2 small groups from 2 different termas, they stayed free less than couple of minutes as they dress better, walk better, look better in comparison with the ugly dogs balcony girls, but ... I do not understand why a girl should yawn with crossed arms 7-8 hours in terma with no mood to work and then to go to balcony to earn money....and I laugh when I saw them arrive, I was already busy so I did not consider to take one of them and I have no idea about the price they ask for.

  12. #3420
    Quote Originally Posted by Christopherd
    Lovely place. I was trying to stick to Prado itself lol. But there are so many nice places to eat (if only a few outstanding ones). At least these places can give you something multo quente rather than the lukewarm stuff served at kilogramas.

    If we include the area of MVdeCastro immediately by Prado, there is very reasonable food at the restaurant between Nog and Cicciolina´s, and it doesn´t allow programmas, so you can watch them without being harrassed.
    Are you talking about El Cids?

  13. #3419
    Quote Originally Posted by El Greco
    It seems that you missed the Sabor Arte (or something like that) small restaurant diagonally across Barbarella and opposite Pao de Acugar.

    Very nice dishes and very reasonable priced. Try spagheti with camarao and asparagus plus their many frango dishes. Delicious. They also make deliveries.
    Lovely place. I was trying to stick to Prado itself lol. But there are so many nice places to eat (if only a few outstanding ones). At least these places can give you something multo quente rather than the lukewarm stuff served at kilogramas.

    If we include the area of MVdeCastro immediately by Prado, there is very reasonable food at the restaurant between Nog and Cicciolina´s, and it doesn´t allow programmas, so you can watch them without being harrassed.

  14. #3418
    Quote Originally Posted by El Greco
    It seems that you missed the Sabor Arte (or something like that) small restaurant diagonally across Barbarella and opposite Pao de Acugar.

    Very nice dishes and very reasonable priced. Try spagheti with camarao and asparagus plus their many frango dishes. Delicious. They also make deliveries.
    Lovely place. I was trying to stick to Prado itself lol. But there are so many nice places to eat (if only a few outstanding ones). AT least these places can give you something multo quente rather than the lukewarm stuff served at kilogramas.

  15. #3417
    Quote Originally Posted by lukasek
    however i sessioned one hour and when i saw the bill i thought....what ?!?

    only 270 reais and something.....incredible cheap !
    i told you. didn't i ?


    Quote Originally Posted by lukasek
    it sucks a bit to go there by metro, ( even if with 16 reais at 23h i went to copa by taxi...the same as back from solarium...), as it takes 40-50 minutes, but when you come back from the 4x4 you have in you wallet yet 100 euro and you did the same exactly thing, well, probably better.
    next time you can take blue/white bus #175 (from outside mc donalds on av. rio branco) to av atlantica. they run every 5-10 minutes and they drive so fast as if they are competing to the taxis. i used to get off at helpee for a drink. now it will be balcony.

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