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  1. #3387
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo
    Oh man that sucks! That would have to be, the worst feeling in the world! Guys go to these clubs to meet regular girls, not prostitutes. Imagine the feeling of going to a club and thinking you are really hitting it off with this young sexy women, you think she is attracted to you. Then when you go in to seal the deal and ask her back to your place, she hits you with "I need 500R to go with you! " I would be fucking crushed and pissed as hell if that happened to me.
    The girls who are going to ask for money in any of these places will be so amazing obvious that I can't see anyone, who isn't an idiot being surprised.

    Girls who go to melt, nuth and 00 have style, taste, class. The ones who have migrated from help, do not. Many of them are hot, but taste and style, sorry.

  2. #3386

    Worth at least a dollar

    Quote Originally Posted by mangera
    just for potential visitors of this city. have you ever thought about when you go seal the deal and ask her back to your place, you go and f**k each others brains out. she wakes up in the morning, brushes her teeth and you go for another round of morning sex. then you shower and have breakfast together. she goes on her way and does not ask for 500r or no money whatsover...........well, that shit actually happens. how? take some time and make an effort to learn the language, culture and try not to stand out like a sex tourist. it will happen more often than you think.

    for a few members in this forum, this has been the norm for quite a while now. whether its with a gdp or a regular gal. thats why all this helppee talk doesn't make a difference at all to these guys. it is no coincidence that they happen to be the same guys that contibute the most info. since way back when.

    basically, what i am saying is that very good times can be had, but one is going to have some changes in their approach, particularly how one decides to deal with the language barrier. just my two cents.
    this excellent comment was posted on another forum to which i added my two cents.

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    "but if you are no good at non pros where you live, dont set your expectations too high for non pros here. espeically in barra."

    should be etched in stone at the immigration line or at least put up in all the hotels like the **** prostitution sign.

    it never ceases to amaze me how many guys who can't even get a warm look from a woman in their own country think that things are going to change once they arrive in brazil. they don't even speak the language yet somehow think that attractive women suddenly have developed an uncontrollable urge to be with them.

    better yet, no woman in their life has ever commented positively on their sexual prowess, but now they make casaonova, fabio and don juan all seem like barney fife. women like guys who can make them laugh. not many guys are good at that in their own language, let alone in another one. unless you have a history of at least some success with women and speak portuguese, it really is all about the money.
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    not the truth people what to hear, but the truth nonetheless.

  3. #3385

    New Copa

    copa has changed and is changing again. these ridicolous prices asked at present time will not continue as lesser numbers of mongers are comming to rio. it is already a buyer´s market. why go to a first-tier terma when you have approx. 50 casas em centro and also vm? you have all the escort agencies which charge 120 rs for 2 hours. lamenting about shell-shocked helpeee-girls does not serve any purpose. guys - simply move on!!!!

    the rio-girls will find another waterhole where they will meet gringos.if there is a demand, someone will come and make space available. the girls will also lower their prices or they will go home alone. there are too many women in rio waiting of johns to take them out and pay for their services. and the johns will think twice going to a ridicolous expensive rio. average tourists will still continue to flock into rio - but will they spend as much money there as we mongers do? i doubt.

    i am usually in the north of brazil, salvador, fortaleza, manaus. a girl there is glad getting 150 rs for tln, the hotels and restaurants are cheaper and have at least the same quality. if you want to try other pastures, go to argentina, peru, colombia or the dr. europe and africa are also alternatives - how about spain and portugal or the ivory coast in africa?

    if the rio government decided they do not want to have the mongring tourism - so let it be. there are too many places in the world which welcomes us.

    these are my 2 centavos for today.

    carlos primeros

  4. #3384

    The other side of the coin...

    Quote Originally Posted by bravo
    oh man that sucks!! that would have to be, the worst feeling in the world!! guys go to these clubs to meet regular girls, not prostitutes. imagine the feeling of going to a club and thinking you are really hitting it off with this young sexy women, you think she is attracted to you. then when you go in to seal the deal and ask her back to your place, she hits you with "i need 500r to go with you!" i would be fucking crushed and pissed as hell if that happened to me.
    just for potential visitors of this city. have you ever thought about when you go seal the deal and ask her back to your place, you go and f**k each others brains out. she wakes up in the morning, brushes her teeth and you go for another round of morning sex. then you shower and have breakfast together. she goes on her way and does not ask for 500r or no money whatsover...........well, that shit actually happens. how? take some time and make an effort to learn the language, culture and try not to stand out like a sex tourist. it will happen more often than you think.

    for a few members in this forum, this has been the norm for quite a while now. whether its with a gdp or a regular gal. thats why all this helppee talk doesn't make a difference at all to these guys. it is no coincidence that they happen to be the same guys that contibute the most info. since way back when.

    basically, what i am saying is that very good times can still be had, but one is going to have to make some changes in their approach, particularly how one decides to deal with the language barrier. just my two cents.

  5. #3383
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo
    Oh man that sucks!! That would have to be, the worst feeling in the world!! Guys go to these clubs to meet regular girls, not prostitutes. Imagine the feeling of going to a club and thinking you are really hitting it off with this young sexy women, you think she is attracted to you. Then when you go in to seal the deal and ask her back to your place, she hits you with "I need 500R to go with you!" I would be fucking crushed and pissed as hell if that happened to me.
    These girls know who they are talking to, if they think you're some naive schmuck from East Podunk NJ who is love struck she won't last 2 minutes with you, don't worry.

  6. #3382
    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Harders
    Mongers-
    the high end that don't want to deal with that will be freelancing in places such as Melt, Shenanigans, and/or 00.
    I agree, I sort of mentioned this recently. I have a trip coming up and these are the places I am going to hit.

  7. #3381
    Quote Originally Posted by Lancer520
    Thanks Jake,
    Time isn't my issue at all. Money isn't a big issue, but these new prices I'm hearing at termas in reports are out of control. 1 hour with a girl and 1 water $450 reals. What is that about? I use to do Help, TA, and the first and 2nd level termas. Even the 2nd level termas were getting out of hand on my last trip. NS Copa 583 was charging like $150 reals a year ago if I remember correctly. and that was at a 2.25 to 1 Dollar exchange rate. I never thought I would say this but i'm almost ready to suck it up, lose my 40% on the dollar and try Europe. I would like to hear more reports and prices from mongers on the ground in Rio so any input would be greatly appreciated.
    Lancer,
    If you are serious about trying Europe, then I would suggest you think about giving Ukraine a try. No visa required for Americans, Canadians, Brits, or Europeans. But that might change after the February election so if you are thinking about it go quickly. IT's probably won't but you never know. Go and look at the Ukraine (Kiev) posts on this forum for the low down. Once you get there it's more affordable than you might think. There's no beach but there are plenty of other compensations!! Affordable apartments, good restaurants and gorgeous girls. You can fly there fro London for $140 each way. Check out some recent posts by CruiserD. He's there now and sounds like he's having a ball.
    Send me a PM if you would like additional info. Happy to assist.
    Good luck,
    Jake

  8. #3380
    Quote Originally Posted by Jake993
    Or hell, why not try Sao Paulo? Accommodations are more expensive, but pussy comes in all price ranges and there's no shortage of it.
    Jake, accommodation is much cheaper in SP than in Rio. About half cheaper I'd say, both for hotels and serviced apartments. For example, Mercure Apartments cost 150/200RS in Sao Paulo (in the best areas), as they cost 350/400 RS in Rio. There's also great weekend bargains in SP, which doesn't exist in Rio.

    Anyhow I fully agree. Sao Paulo has the best looking girls, the best boites, the best strip bars, the best clubs, the best after-hours, ect this side of Atlantic ocean.

    Not even talking of Love Story, which is simply the best pick-up club on the planet in the history of mankind, bar none.

    How Luka, an adventurous man of good taste who has already travelled to the best untapped areas in FSU, can persist to monger in an overrun and nasty touristic shithole like Rio is beyond me.

  9. #3379
    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Harders
    the high end that don't want to deal with that will be freelancing in places such as Melt, Shenanigans, and/or 00.
    Oh man that sucks!! That would have to be, the worst feeling in the world!! Guys go to these clubs to meet regular girls, not prostitutes. Imagine the feeling of going to a club and thinking you are really hitting it off with this young sexy women, you think she is attracted to you. Then when you go in to seal the deal and ask her back to your place, she hits you with "I need 500R to go with you!" I would be fucking crushed and pissed as hell if that happened to me.

  10. #3378
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    Come here Jake and write your reports, it will be much more useful for the forum than to suggests me to drink a juice....
    Lukasek,
    Mi amico I am trying to get there as fast as I can. Unfortunately, this crisis will not go away and is playing hell with my travel budget!!!!
    Get well soon and blaze a new trail for us.....

  11. #3377
    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Harders
    Mongers-
    I was in Rio on the last night of Help and for several nights afterwards back in early January. Essentially, from what I saw, heard, and experienced, this is how it is going to shake out at least for the time being: The highest end Help girls, the 8's and 9's, 21-28 year old, lighter skinned specimens, will be doing their thing out of Barbarella for the most part (at least the ones who can deal with some level of management control and oversight); the high end that don't want to deal with that will be freelancing in places such as Melt, Shenanigans, and/or 00. The lower end Help girls will be working at Balcony and Avenida Atlantica for the most part. In my opinion and experience Balcony has been flooded with the bottom of the barrel favela rat types because there is no control about who enters the place for either customers or garotas. I would also be careful about Balcony because there were a large number of street hustlers floating around the place as there is no security from what I saw.
    Believe me, there are still a plethora of options for scoring nice pussy in Rio de Janeiro. The number of part-timers available will not be going down anytime in the near future as long as the average salary in Rio is less than R$ 1000 per month. For high end girls at the fairest price, I recommend frequenting the places I listed above and also high end termas with the idea of entering, banging the garota one time in the termas, getting her phone number, and then having her available on reserve outside the termas for a much better value.
    Sorte,
    Rock Harders
    Good information indeed!!
    Thanks for the brief succinct update.

  12. #3376
    Quote Originally Posted by Bizzie
    ..
    You are fucking killing me with your depressing reports
    ..
    Bizzie, no more Prozac ?

    Honestly you should consider to put me in your ignore list if the report of my truth made you so sad. And indeed my truth should mean nothing more than the POV of one between many...

    But even yesterday after Shenanigan's ( where I laugh to see there one girl from Centaurus and two that played hard to get and then they show up at Balcony ), a short walk to prado juniour the scene was the same.

    Believe it or not, all the mongers I spoke with, told me they do not like now Rio, 1 retired 64 yo from USA used to come here 3 months per year, told me, he wont come back again. One english guy the same. One greek shocked how all the girls only ask money, how they are ugly and how expensive it is, he said, I was just curious to see rio, I will keep on going to LOS.

    Just couple of examples of last days, nobody is really happy here, the 450 reais for 1 session in terma is too much, especially if you have to wake up the girl before to session her.

    Actually I feel great, honestly I do not live to fuck, I cannot wait to come back home, to meet my friends, I have two coworkers I want to date.
    To start to work again hard, get money soon and think where to go in the spring and I will kill the end of the winter in FKK where in comparison to here, you get muuuch more with much leeess money.

    I do not live in Rio, I could care less that now is so different here, yes, it is a different holiday, I have much less sex and GFE than I thought, but I enjoy to run at the beach early morning, to get tanned as never before....I have no problems at all, I am not as the GdP that now they sell their expensive handbags and clothes just to pay the rent of the apt or to buy food for their son cause they work not so much as before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jake993
    Hey Lukasek! - Bizzie is right. You need to snap out of your funk dude. Go get a vitamin "C" shot or something.....Maybe you need a change of venue? Get on a bus and go for a road trip to Buzios for a few days....
    Jake993,

    So do you think if I go to Buzius, when I will come back, I will find the same Rio of the golden years ? LOL

    I know you like to read only the good positive reports, no matter if the truth is different, but I have seriously problem to lie and to write here is a heaven....

    Come here Jake and write your reports, it will be much more useful for the forum than to suggests me to drink a juice....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lancer520
    ....but these new prices I'm hearing at termas in reports are out of control. 1 hour with a girl and 1 water $450 reals. What is that about?...
    And the Olimpic games are still far 6 years, for me it is only the beginning, sooner it will become even more expensive. It is a common thing here, less customer make the prices get higher, it is part of brazilian "wisdom"....

    Another thing that need to be mentioned, last year from the middle of january every couple of days you could see some new girls arriving for carnival....well we are at the end of january and there are all the same faces of 2 weeks ago when I arrived....

    P.S. I do not rent apartments and I have no business here, I am not a 1 report new member owner of terma, that's why I do not need to promote Rio or to write super positive bullshits reports....

  13. #3375
    Quote Originally Posted by Jake993
    Lance,
    You raise an interesting question. But I suppose it all depends on how much effort you want to put into it. I think HELP just made EVERYONE sort of lazy. Both us and the girls. We always knew that one way or the other we could just wander down to the meat market pretty much any night of the week and pick up some "take-out". Conversely, the girls always knew that they had a pretty fair shake of getting a trick by going down to HELP any night of the week provided they were willing to be competitive.

    To say that mongering is dead in Rio is ridiculous. It's certainly not as dead easy as it was before, but the game has certainly changed. And while some of the girls have moved on to greener pastures, I would bet that more than 50% of them are still living in Rio. The question is, "where are they"?

    If you have limited time and inclination to go out and blaze a new trail, then you are probably better off going to Colombia or Peru. Or hell, why not try Sao Paulo? Accommodations are more expensive, but pussy comes in all price ranges and there's no shortage of it. But damnit, someone has to figure out and figure out the new game and report it to the rest of us. I have business reasons for being in Rio several times a year and I will certainly be looking for the new "path" on my next trip.

    There are probably a few dozen members of this board (and you KNOW who you are) who are laughing their heads off because they are making out JUST FINE without HELP. Be it the Termas, be it VM, be it Club 00..... where ever.

    If you don't have time to find a new path, that's cool - branch out and try out another well worn path. But don't write off Rio entirely just because the "Deer feeder" is empty.
    Thanks Jake,
    Time isn't my issue at all. Money isn't a big issue, but these new prices I'm hearing at termas in reports are out of control. 1 hour with a girl and 1 water $450 reals. What is that about? I use to do Help, TA, and the first and 2nd level termas. Even the 2nd level termas were getting out of hand on my last trip. NS Copa 583 was charging like $150 reals a year ago if I remember correctly. and that was at a 2.25 to 1 Dollar exchange rate. I never thought I would say this but i'm almost ready to suck it up, lose my 40% on the dollar and try Europe. I would like to hear more reports and prices from mongers on the ground in Rio so any input would be greatly appreciated.

  14. #3374
    Mongers-
    I was in Rio on the last night of Help and for several nights afterwards back in early January. Essentially, from what I saw, heard, and experienced, this is how it is going to shake out at least for the time being: The highest end Help girls, the 8's and 9's, 21-28 year old, lighter skinned specimens, will be doing their thing out of Barbarella for the most part (at least the ones who can deal with some level of management control and oversight); the high end that don't want to deal with that will be freelancing in places such as Melt, Shenanigans, and/or 00. The lower end Help girls will be working at Balcony and Avenida Atlantica for the most part. In my opinion and experience Balcony has been flooded with the bottom of the barrel favela rat types because there is no control about who enters the place for either customers or garotas. I would also be careful about Balcony because there were a large number of street hustlers floating around the place as there is no security from what I saw.
    Believe me, there are still a plethora of options for scoring nice pussy in Rio de Janeiro. The number of part-timers available will not be going down anytime in the near future as long as the average salary in Rio is less than R$ 1000 per month. For high end girls at the fairest price, I recommend frequenting the places I listed above and also high end termas with the idea of entering, banging the garota one time in the termas, getting her phone number, and then having her available on reserve outside the termas for a much better value.
    Sorte,
    Rock Harders

  15. #3373
    Hello, my friends of termas.

    How are we all doing today.

    Well for starters I arrived two days ago.

    I was old that brazil has pretty good termas so I asked around about the termas.

    I was that MC and Luomo are one of best in copacabana.

    So I went to check them out MC (Monte Carlo) was pretty empty but there are some nice looking girls did not like the way the girls talked to so I just sat around had few drinks on my out I met a british guy that was going to to luomo so I joined up with him when we got there we where greeted by a very friendly security guard at the he opened up for us and we went in at the reciption we where told about the prices and how the house works.

    Well to cut along story short there were few girls inside but pretty hot one they where all very friendly I took one girl very sexy and new what she was doing.

    The barmen there very profissional servied me well I spoke to call barry nice guy and also fabio I would like to thank them for helping pick a girl.

    I did not have any problems at loumo.

    I am sorry to hear that some guys had a few problems there.

    Well my friends lots of sex and and lots of love to give to these fantastic girls.

    Congratulations loumo for a great night.

    I am off.

    Dickweed780

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