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  1. #3174
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangue Bon
    ...
    Club Erotika was a place I frequented often, different locatrion then where it is today, it was on Princess Isabella Blvd back then and a pretty big space. They had shows music and plenty of girls hanging around.

    ...
    Yeah, they had a European style cabaret show with samba dancers and I don't know what all. After midnight, they had a live sex show and I think a second one at 2:00. And there were definitely a lot of free lancers around. As to the location(s) I don't remember and I have not gone back since. I more preferred the beach cafes/bars scene.

    Do they still do the live sex show? I have not heard about that in a long time.

  2. #3173
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamaicanceo
    If they raise the price for the Olympics it will hurt them. The Olympics are for people who fly to Rio for the Olympics, and not garota da programma. Most Olympic fans will be on official business or with friends and families, on tight Olympic game ticket schedules. Let alone getting stuck on the metro or street traffic trying to make each event on-time. Us mongers will only know where to go, and only will be there for mongering. So if the termas try and be greedy on their prices, some of us will go else where. I'm sure Barra Tijuca termas will love taking business fron Copa termas. And the downtown termas will not get much business during the Olympics, because the Olympic traffic will be a factor, and most people will get intimidating walking on BA to get to the termas I frequent. Then I keep numbers of termas girls who freelance, as well as girls who keep their visitations to apartments bet R150-200.

    As for renting apartments, if Help ever closes, the many Copa girls will now longer afford their apartments. There will be rooming 30 girls, sleeping in shifts, by pooling apartment money. This will cause many available apartments after and before the Olympics at a cheaper rate for mongers.
    The girls pay for their 'apartments' monthly something like 400 reales. In interior Brazil. Maybe also true in zona norte do Rio. The cost of rent is pegged to the value of 'one monthly salary. ' As for your Olympic predictions. If the Pan Am Games were any kind of indicator, guys who wanted to get laid whilst in Rio got laid.

  3. #3172
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    I believe you.... 4x4 is always 4x4, but if I remember correctly one hour was 180 BR in september, 40 BR in couple of months is a lot especially if they do not stop to raising in price.
    It went up in November. $200R for 40mins and $220R for 1 hour. $40R entrance after 5pm, but $50R if you leave without doing anything. Plus the kicker 4% tax if you use a credit card:-(

  4. #3171

    The Joy Of Monte Carlo

    This is my second year in Rio. Such a blast I had last year I thought I'd return. A year on the lure of the girls has dulled a little. I suppose I'm a year older and all new toys lose their novelty, but there's still lots of hotties out there and the urge to indulge takes me every couple of days or so.

    I had a great first fuck with a firm, big-but-real-titted girl I met outside Help in the first week which got me off to a good start. She was genuinely pleasant and helped ease me into my holiday.

    Last year on my last night I met a girl in Monte Carlo called Fernanda or Nanda for short. I put a post on here about how hot she was. I even emailed her a couple of times but didn't get a reply to the second one and realised it was fanciful at best. I'm under no illusion!

    I kind of hoped to see her again, in a woefully pitiful way, just for old times' sake but she wasn't working last Sunday night when I revisited old territory. A year in the wilderness created a stomach full of butterflies on entering the den of lust. The smell of the shower facilities and the idea of almost being on show for the girls to focus their attentions on making me giddy for a moment. I put on my robe and flip flops (the equivalent of a cardigan and slippers, but for a sex fiend!) and stepped into the fray.

    As usual the ugly ones made a beeline for me hoping I was a rookie they could turn with a soft caress of his inner thigh, but I remembered the mongering advice and last year's experience and motioned as politely as I could that I was just looking at the moment, muito obrigado.

    A couple of big arsed Mulattas took my attention by their sheer physicality. Oh, to climb on board and enjoy the firmly cushioned ride; but I bided my time getting my money's worth of eye candy, until this slim, Euro looking blonde chick, who reminded me of Alicia Silverstone, caught me eye from the bar. She had very small tits, covered by a little bikini and was wearing a thong that showed an arse belonging to a different racial group. The top half was all European but the bottom was all Brazilian! The clincher, beside the lilting smile and gentle ways was the high-heeled shoes with wrap-around-the-calf laces. That did it for me. Just one more question stood in my way: 'Voce faz todo? '

    'Sim! ' she laughed.

    Off we went for 40 mins of sheer pleasure. What a way to spend a Sunday. I only wish I could remember her name. I'll be back before I go and will let you know in case you wish to book her yourselves.

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  5. #3170

    Getting lucky

    Hi guys,

    I posted earlier today about Camilla and my disappearing shorts (I loved those shorts. I bought a new pair today but they're elasticated in the waist which makes my love handles bulge and the material on my inner thigh rides up. I want my shorts back.)

    Shorts aside, I wanted to say a couple of things. I've been having breakfast in a little cafe next to Wind Sucos on the corner of Prado Junior and Nossa Senhora in Leme. Same thing every day – Acai, coffee (made with little care or expertise) and an omelette. Three rainy days ago this one teenage chick rocked up with a little girl in tow, both on roller blades. She was larking around and I thought she wasn't more than 14 or 15, playing with a new Christmas present. But she kept looking over at me. I avoided her eye but as she left I looked over and she blew me a kiss. Dangerous territory, I thought and left it at that. Two minutes later she was back, on her roller blades with her little friend and handed me her number. Bold as brass! The cafe workers were laughing. She then left and I told them in my halting Portuguese that she was too young for me. They said it didn't matter in Rio. Fuck that, I thought, with visions of being arrested for having sex with a minor.

    Then she returned, in make-up and changed out of her shorts into a dress. She stood in front of me to say, 'Well, what do you think?' I explained she was too young but she pulled out her ID card and was indeed 18. I asked the cafe workers if she was dangerous or safe and they all said she was a good girl. I asked if she was a GDP and they replied more or less. All the encouragement I needed.

    As I left with her on my arm they said she'd want R50. We spent the next three hours fucking; BBBJ, anal, the lot. At first she didn't want me to see her front on because it turns out that although she's only 18 she has stretch marks from two kids. Two! I didn't mind cos she had a fine, firm sticky out arse that more than compensated for her stretch marks.

    We played some music on YouTube (she could barely type and didn't really know how to use a dictionary which made me think how ignorant she must have been. She knew how to fuck, her one skill and was working it hard, but I felt a little bad that this lovely young thing wouldn't have the chance to be more than a mum and a GDP. But not that bad!)

    She left me exhausted but happy for such a chance encounter to be so cheap and enjoyable. I almost gave her some more cash, but didn't have any change. Last night I bumped into her in Balcony. She pinched my arse and didn't bother me in the slightest. I'm sure experience will toughen her attitude but I am glad we met. If you speak to a young girl with a curvy firm little body, asiatic eyes, brown shoulder length hair and a filthy laugh ask her if her name's Daiana. If she says yes, treat her well.

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  6. #3169
    Quote Originally Posted by Exec Talent
    Rio merchants, restaurants and taxi drivers keep on gouging and soon you will have no tourists here. On the plane to Rio December 30, based upon the line at immigration about 90% of the passengers were Brazilian. Went to Siqueira Grill tonight and it was about 50% full. Why? Prices up 25% and R$13 Caipirinhas could have had something to do with it. Taxis on New Year’s Eve were asking R$50 to go anywhere. People were just walking away and taking the bus.

    One of the reasons I am doing business in Brazil is because Brazilians suck at marketing, management and economics. Interestingly enough there is technology infrastructure in place (which they have no clue how to use).

    Keep it up Brazilians and the World Cup and Olympics will be minor blips on an investment for which you will never get a return.
    That's some good insight. In my impression, Brazil's economy is mostly speculation. Embratur, the official tourist agency for the government, is barely 2 years old. So they do not have the best marketing and planning professionals. There focus is not Rio de Janeiro, because too many poor cariocas from impoverish regions have over-run the tourist areas. My contacts in Embratur say they are promoting places like more European oriented Florianopolis, Santa Catarina...yuck! Of course the folks in Embratur are European descendant Brazilians, rather than the morenas and others.

  7. #3168

    Keep Gouging

    Rio merchants, restaurants and taxi drivers keep on gouging and soon you will have no tourists here. On the plane to Rio December 30, based upon the line at immigration about 90% of the passengers were Brazilian. Went to Siqueira Grill tonight and it was about 50% full. Why? Prices up 25% and R$13 Caipirinhas could have had something to do with it. Taxis on New Year’s Eve were asking R$50 to go anywhere. People were just walking away and taking the bus.

    One of the reasons I am doing business in Brazil is because Brazilians suck at marketing, management and economics. Interestingly enough there is technology infrastructure in place (which they have no clue how to use).

    Keep it up Brazilians and the World Cup and Olympics will be minor blips on an investment for which you will never get a return.

  8. #3167
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    I believe you.... 4x4 is always 4x4, but if I remember correctly one hour was 180 BR in september, 40 BR in couple of months is a lot especially if they do not stop to raising in price.
    When they go up on their entrance and session prices. Mongers will leave the drink buying to the bare chested Brazilians who can't afford to session.
    Last edited by Jamaicanceo; 01-03-10 at 00:18. Reason: typo

  9. #3166

    Screw the Olympics and Help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Voyajer1
    Prices at 4 X 4 went up by BR10. So if you session for one hour, the going rate is now BR 220 ! So far there has not been an Olympic sized rise in prices, but I am not holding my breath. I should be there Tuesday!!! I can't wait ... As far as it is being reported, the entrance fee is still BR 40 and they waive the entry fee if you session before 5:00pm. I guess I'm going to have to get up early
    If they raise the price for the Olympics it will hurt them. The Olympics are for people who fly to Rio for the Olympics, and not garota da programma. Most Olympic fans will be on official business or with friends and families, on tight Olympic game ticket schedules. Let alone getting stuck on the metro or street traffic trying to make each event on-time. Us mongers will only know where to go, and only will be there for mongering. So if the termas try and be greedy on their prices, some of us will go else where. I'm sure Barra Tijuca termas will love taking business fron Copa termas. And the downtown termas will not get much business during the Olympics, because the Olympic traffic will be a factor, and most people will get intimidating walking on BA to get to the termas I frequent. Then I keep numbers of termas girls who freelance, as well as girls who keep their visitations to apartments bet R150-200.

    As for renting apartments, if Help ever closes, the many Copa girls will now longer afford their apartments. there will be rooming 30 girls, sleeping in shifts, by pooling apartment money. This will cause many available apartments after and before the Olympics at a cheaper rate for mongers.

  10. #3165
    Quote Originally Posted by Voyajer1
    ...So if you session for one hour, the going rate is now BR 220 !......I should be there Tuesday!!! I can't wait ...
    I believe you.... 4x4 is always 4x4, but if I remember correctly one hour was 180 BR in september, 40 BR in couple of months is a lot especially if they do not stop to raising in price.

  11. #3164

    Dodgy GDP

    Hi Guys,

    Been here for two weeks and haven't had a problem, due to diligence and following advice from some of the mongers on this forum.

    However...

    Last night I went with a GDP called Camilla whom I met in Balcony. She is a hard body with fake boobs, big firm booty and an ultra flat stomach. She has what I imagine to be a little plastic surgery on her face as her nose is very sculpted and she also has slight pockmarking on her cheeks from past acne. Straight black hair that is naturally curly (so she told me).

    She wanted R300 but I got her down to R200 for two hours. More than I would normally pay but her body was incredibly tight.

    The session was very sterile. She wasn't really into it, wouldn't kiss or do uncovered blow job, wanted the money up front and spent ages in the bathroom. I felt a little bit sad that she didn't enjoy it as I've had some really fun GDPs in the past who seem to enjoy their work immensely.

    I put it down to experience. BUT this morning I woke up and went to put on my beach shorts to find they've disappeared. I've searched all over my miniscule apartment but to no avail. Granted it was a full moon last night so I may have eaten them or flung them out the window in a fit of lunacy but I have my suspicions she may have taken them. (They are rather nice!) All my valuables were locked away so nothing else is gone.

    I wonder if anyone else has experienced Camilla and did anything go missing? I don't want to think bad of her but after searching and searching my flat can only assume she left with them in her bag. I hope I'm wrong.

  12. #3163

    I haven't got there yet, but...

    Prices at 4 X 4 went up by BR10. So if you session for one hour, the going rate is now BR 220 ! So far there has not been an Olympic sized rise in prices, but I am not holding my breath. I should be there Tuesday!!! I can't wait ... As far as it is being reported, the entrance fee is still BR 40 and they waive the entry fee if you session before 5:00pm. I guess I'm going to have to get up early

  13. #3162

    Vila Mimosa - Risks?

    Thanks Christopherd - You have answered my question fully and comprehensively.

    I thought this comment was especially well-made:

    "The second implied and seriously erroneous assumption is that paying more money or having sex in more hygienic surroundings reduces the risk of catching a sexually transmitted diseasse. Of course, it doesn't. Or perhaps a class thing - that a girl from a poorer background is more likely to have a sexually transmitted disease - again, untrue. Social parameters affect health generally, but the classifications that apply in many countries (eg USA) do not apply in Brasil."

    From what you say about VM and from what I know about sexual health promotion in Brazil generally, it would appear that the country is really an exception in this regard. I just wanted to check if the 'social parameters' test as applied elsewhere would be equally true in Brazil.

    And for the record I am not remotely interested in bareback or other risky behaviors.

    Feliz 2010.

  14. #3161
    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy21
    I'm fascinated by Vila Mimosa and am torn as to whether to visit or not. I speak portuguese and would not have a problem getting in and out of the place.

    However, even if I pick a healthy looking garota, what are my chances of picking up a STI versus say a garota in 4X4 or a Clinica?

    Sperto - would appreciate you 2 cents if you are online.
    Paddy - I'm sure you realise as much as anyone the incongruities in your post, but it's the sort of question almost anyone might ask. I wonder if I can try to answer sensibly (Sperto has jumped on a plane afaaik).

    Firstly, Brasil is a world leader in the use of condoms and the fight against sexually transmitted diseases including HIV. This is attested on many professional forums and conferences and many, many papers (example). So statistically you are better off than in many countries. Especially better than most developing countries (many of which have a poor condom implementation record, whether by their own stupidity or 'aided' by GW Bush's short-sighted programs, to name a few). It's on a par with the West.

    But statistics don't help if you are unlucky. Condoms are very freely available, in VM as everywhere else in Brasil, together with prominent safer sex notices. But the practice still depends to a large extent on the male. Which is the first implied and erroneous assumption - the idea that responsibility can somehow be delegated to a female and, fingers crossed with a wing and prayer, she's clean.

    The second implied and seriously erroneous assumption is that paying more money or having sex in more hygienic surroundings reduces the risk of catching a sexually transmitted diseasse. Of course, it doesn't. Or perhaps a class thing - that a girl from a poorer background is more likely to have a sexually transmitted disease - again, untrue. Social parameters affect health generally, but the classifications that apply in many countries (eg USA) do not apply in Brasil. For instance, ". . . studying AIDS cases during the 1980s among adult women from the municipality of Rio de Janeiro found an even higher percentage of the disease among family women than among prostitutes." (Koifman et al quoted here). Drug injecting practices are perhaps one of the identifiable factors however.

    Hidden support mechanisms also have an effect. There is a very active network of safe sex support in VM (as there is most main areas where prostitution occurs in Rio). Warnings, health care, condom availability and general awareness.

    I am not saying you are more likely to pick something up in 4x4, but there are many instances of mongers who have reported some terma girls' willingness to go bareback once they get to know you. I've yet to hear of a VM girl offering sex without protection (and have never been offered it, in hundreds of sessions).

    But back to the real responsibility and how he can take it seriously - ie the monger. In VM you will not always have good lighting conditions to examine for track marks or obvious signs of illness. You may be less prepared, less aware, less on your guard. Or maybe not. It depends on you. As for going down on a lady, I use the same rule everywhere - if it smells nice, tastes nice, and I want to, then I may well go for it. A bad smell or taste is offputting - although it is only possibly indicative of a small range of sexually transmitted diseases and may be indicative of none. But good taste and safe sex do not always (or hardly ever) overlap.

    One thing I would say about VM is that girls are in a more independent environment. You can pick up a lot of things from their social interactions (with you and each other) that would be airbrushed out of existence in 4x4.

    This is not an answer one way or the other about your 'likelihood' of picking up a sexually transmitted disease in VM. Any more than it is an answer about whether you are more likely to get sunburnt on Copa or Ipanema beach.

    The advice, as always, is wear sunscreen.

  15. #3160
    Hughdad,
    I enjoyed your posts which were quite refreshing as it brought real experiences of what can be achieved with non pros if one were to invest the time. All the best in all your endeavours.

    Cheers.

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