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  1. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by Orebell
    All along she kept playing the you do not like me card since I would not take her on her offer.
    I love that line. The chunky pale twins Julia and Juliana love to say that. There must be a garota training academy somewhere in Rio.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orebell
    I walked right by her and she gave me the dirtiest nastiest look on her face.
    I also like it when a garota that you've session with sees you around Rio with another on your arm. They act jealous as if they are in a relationship with you. They may even say they saw you with another girl. I usually reply to the english speakers, "And!" Too many mongers get wimpy with the GDP. I'm not saying to be arrogant, but don't be to easy.

  2. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis
    You are right she doesn't have to she chooses to but after a girl has crossed that line less than .0001 % can ever go back to the other side. If you choose to patronize working girls/garotas/putas/hookers/prostitutes/jineteras or whatever word in whatever language you so desire to use there are very few that don't use drugs. If being around (insert your preferred word here) that use drugs makes you paranoid your playground will be very small.
    This time off year upto 50 % off the women in help use cocaine, as alot off the girls there are back from europe etc. (party girls). Fewer will use it after easter.

  3. #184

    Way too high of a price.

    Hey there are more girls than that asking 600 reais. I was at Help the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 25th of Jan. On the night of the 25th a short girl got my attention. To be honest, I would not have given her a second look going through the club. She is short with light brown hair, nice boobs and not a very nice ass. We got to chatting and to be honest she was very friendly. She spoke good english telling me that she only goes with American men. Tells me how much she wants out of Brazil. I believe she was sincere. Then she tells me she wants 600 reais for all night. I countered with 200 which probably too high. She went down to 500 and I went to 250. I probably should have walked away when she said 600. She then went to 400 and I went to 300 and was not budging another inch. I then told her that was my final offer and I am not going above 300. She says for 300 she would come to my apartment the next day but made no mention of for how long. I told her no thank you. I then said I would be around here for another hour and then going back to apartment along unless I find someone. I told her if she changes her mind to let me know before I hooked up with another. All along she kept playing the you do not like me card since I would not take her on her offer. I liked her personality and I think she would been good fun, but price was too much. So off I went to find someone else.

    I found a girl I had chatted with briefly two nights before. The girl who offered 600 reais for alll night had said she would get her phone number for me. I was like ok. By the time I saw her again, I was with another girl and about to walk out of the place. I walked right by her and she gave me the dirtiest nastiest look on her face. It was her damn fault for being so greedy. She had mentioned during the conversation that she does not go home with someone every night. Yeah, no kidding. Only a fool would pay her 600 for all night.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    Hello, I do not remember her name, however I think she was the only one enough brave to ask for 600 reais. Think she was with shoes not more high than 165cm and not more than 50kg, fake breast for sure, skin totally white, from belo horizonte and she has a green shirt and blue jeans and yes look much more snob than the other girls.From then I still no more seen her, however she told me she came to live to Rio 1 year ago and she actually lives here.
    Last edited by Orebell; 01-29-09 at 07:25. Reason: spelling

  4. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    ...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...

    Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.

    Perkele....thanks...
    Hey I agree with you and no they don't usually pull it out but most working girls use drugs to some extent. I have mongered in many countries all over the world and even in small villages in West Africa you will find the girls use some kind of stimulation. They usually don't pull it out because they are stingy with their stash.

  5. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorenzo
    She doesn't HAVE to sleep with anybody. She CHOOSES to sleep with whomever she does. Let's dispense with this paternalistic bullshit and start treating these girls like the adults that they are. And I don't think Lukasek is being paranoid at all. Being in the company of someone possessing drugs makes you a perfect target for a police shakedown.
    You are right she doesn't have to she chooses to but after a girl has crossed that line less than .0001 % can ever go back to the other side. If you choose to patronize working girls/garotas/putas/hookers/prostitutes/jineteras or whatever word in whatever language you so desire to use there are very few that don't use drugs. If being around (insert your preferred word here) that use drugs makes you paranoid your playground will be very small.

  6. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    ...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...

    Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.

    Perkele....thanks...
    Lukasek,

    This is my thinking: when a garota is in my flat she is my guest. Therefore, she can either do what I say for the agreed price, or get the hell out of my apartment. And this "crap" about "you don't like me"? And some add a few tears behind it. So what. Most of the young garotas pull that crap. You are not in Rio to waste your time with BS. Not even the, "I got to help my family" line is your problem.

    I am not saying to be mean, but some of those girls will get away with what you allow. Drugs is a definite "no no"! The minute one of them opens a vial of drugs or a joint, she can give the Brazilian Police a blow-job, and more, to prevent herself from getting arrested. What can you do? So kick her out of your flat off the bat. And if you see her again, pay attention to who she socialize with. These girls have a network. If one uses drugs, then most likely her friends do drugs. And in some cases, the police know them.

  7. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Boy
    Does anyone know if Help is closing for good?
    There ought to be a "Help Rumor Closing Forum" so the same question can be asked and answered over and over by those who are worried the most about Help closing.

  8. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis
    ....She has to sleep with whatever slob (not saying that you are) in the world that will pay her....I think you are being a little paranoid.
    She doesn't HAVE to sleep with anybody. She CHOOSES to sleep with whomever she does. Let's dispense with this paternalistic bullshit and start treating these girls like the adults that they are. And I don't think Lukasek is being paranoid at all. Being in the company of someone possessing drugs makes you a perfect target for a police shakedown.

  9. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Boy
    Does anyone know if Help is closing for good?
    Yes it is.

  10. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Perkele
    Let's look at this from another point of view.
    1. That GDP put a monger in a situation that might have ended really bad. Police doesn't really care in whose posession the drugs are.
    2. There are lots of GDP's who do not use drugs.
    Say what ever you want, but cocaine is very strong and addictive drug. Nobody should use it.
    I was at a beach party aa few years ago in Copa. There were a few people smoking a little maryjane. I didn't care, but refused when I was offered. There were about 100 people there, where the drinks were many. I knew a few girls, and that that was it. Other than that, I haven't actually seen anyone doing drugs. I hear stories, but stay away from that scene.

    "Cocaine is a hell of a drug...................................."

  11. #176

    Discoteca Help

    Does anyone know if Help is closing for good?

  12. #175

    Help report

    Hi all,

    I took out several girls from Help this week. 1 bad, 3 good. This afternoon I spent 90 minutes with a help girl who almost felt like a non-pro or natural, for just 100 R$.

    It has been said many times. Don't overpay. I think the going rate is some 100 r$ for 1 hour, and 200 for 2-3 hours and 300 for whole night. (plus taxi)

    Deeper into the night (say after 02h00) you can negotiate that down more. Of course there are princesses that think they should get 500 or more. Dont do it. 500 r$ is more than a minimum monthly wage here. It would be crazy.

    Just make sure you scan the girl well and do not let her take too much initiative, or she may think you are a stupid gringo. Then make clear agreements on how much you pay and how long she will stay. Also make sure you know what she will and will not do. Perhaps even write it down on paper.
    After that: show the girl respect and treat her well, most garotas will treat you likewise if you do this.

    Always negotiate with the garota. Don't overpay. Or did I already say this?

    BTW Help prices went up yesterday to 28r$ before midnight and 38 r$ after midnight.

    have fun,
    Dutch

  13. #174

    Tall blonde Help girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    Hi all,

    yesterday I took for the first time in the 2 weeks a girl from help to my apartment. She was very nice, tall and thin blond and the time was about 3:00, she looked normal, no drunk, we had a nice conversation for almost one hour so I was pretty sure I could have NO trouble with her, but....
    Hi Lukasek,

    I was at help at the same time. I think I know which tall (thin) blonde you mean. She has a nice body, but the skin on her face is a little 'bad' (as in many spots) and looks a bit red. She looks quite european and very sexy btw. I spent time with her in 2007 and was amazed to see she still frequents HELP. I do not know if she was on anything in 2007, but she did feel a bit 'nervous' and she may have been using stuff.

    Just know that you can find nice girls at help, but there are plenty 'nasty' ones too that just wanna do a quick job and go back to help asap. So make clear that is you pay her a certain amount for 2 hours (say 100-200 reais) she knows she should stay the whole time, and not leave after she makes you cum. I also always ask if the girl does everything. (voce faz tudo?) Yesterday I forgot to ask that very basic question and it turned out there many thing my girl would not do. Including kissing, which is a must for me.

    That is the advantage of the termas and escort services. You are almost always sure the girl does everything. (or almost everything)

    Did you have any experiences yet with escort?

    I had a real nice session today with a girl from CIAPLUS.

    enjoy,
    Dutch44

  14. #173

    Bummer

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasek
    ...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...

    Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.

    Perkele....thanks...
    Yeah that's a bummer. I usually like to steer clear of the coke heads. No big deal but it's just not my thing although I have always wondered what it would be like to screw a babe who's ripped out of her head.

    It's always a bummer when you pick wrong..... especially when they are hot looking. Just goes to show you, "You can't judge a book by the cover". All the more reason to INTERVIEW thoroughly.

  15. #172

    I forgot...

    ...cause I wrote it fast, one of tons of excuses?/things I tried to tell her was:" I am afraid you will feel bad ", her answer was, are you joking ? It is more than 10 years I use it, I enjoy it, it makes me feel so good and so free and you should try it too...

    Beavis after 10 years of mongering was the first time a pro wanted to take cocaine in my flat in front of me, so maybe I look like as naive, but sorry I am not paranoid if I did not like it.

    Perkele....thanks...

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