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  1. #27003
    Quote Originally Posted by QLegal  [View Original Post]
    Yep I also speak the language and it makes a massive difference. I also look after myself. I see a lot of old gringos that are completely out of shape, poorly dressed and with no Portuguese trying to pull 20 something locals and it just looks pathetic. And to be honest it is insulting to Brazilian people.
    I think it's okay if young guys go to a club or flirt with retail workers. But again, don't be a jerk and think every Brasileira is craving your first world awesomeness. Try to be subtle. They will appreciate some subtlety. Like every place in the world, if they are okay with your advances they will smile and send obvious cues. If not, move on.

    Awhile back, wasn't there a member here who got kicked out of a mall for chatting up countless women? If the member is here still, I'm not trying to be a jerk. It's just an reminder to not be uncouth in the pursuit of Brazilian women.

  2. #27002
    Quote Originally Posted by QLegal  [View Original Post]
    Yep I also speak the language and it makes a massive difference. I also look after myself. I see a lot of old gringos that are completely out of shape, poorly dressed and with no Portuguese trying to pull 20 something locals and it just looks pathetic. And to be honest it is insulting to Brazilian people.

    By the way has anyone ever gotten the presidential suite in Panda Motel? My god! I had my own swimming pool, jacuzzi, sauna, small gym, cinema sized screen! It was amazing.
    Well, being this out-of-shape gringo, I don't think it's insulting to them as much as it's laughable. I'm pretty sure these fit Brazilian dudes are having a good laugh at our expense.

    Anyway, I took a top suite at Bambina also in Botafogo, Cubertura something. It's a duplex suite, very smartly designed, but no gym or screen AFAIK. Now that I think of it, it would be fun working out with your girl on that treadmill (don't know about safety issue), LOL. It was slightly less pricey than Panda, but 3 hours instead of 6. Better take 6, trust me.

    These suites are a lot of fun, but I couldn't help but think how often they clean that pool and hot tub. And how many naked asses have graced all those seating surfaces before me. LOL.

  3. #27001

    Looking to get back into the game.

    It has been about 8 years since I was last in Rio for some fun. Decided it might be time to relive some old times. Back then Help disco and the surrounding bars was where I use to spend my evenings. Definitely a target rich environment. Sorry to hear that Help has closed. Is there any bars or areas that has taken its place? It seems like most of the discussion on here deals with the Termas. Never tried them but don't think they're my thing. Kinda prefer the slower pace of a bar to evaluate prospects.

    I also remember in Ipanema a bar called Emporio that was good for non-pros and semi-pros. Is it still there? Garota de Ipanema was always my favorite restaurant. I'm just wondering how much has changed. Is there still the ability to relax on the beach during the day and then hit a bar in Ipanema for semi-pro talent or hit somewhere else for a drink and evaluate what you want to take back to the hotel? 200,000 use to be the going rate for short time. Seems like it's gone up a bit.

  4. #27000
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    I have been traveling to Brasil for 26 years and have lived there for years. The truth is experiences with civilians can be different for each individual. It's not cookie cutter, it varies for each man seeking a non-working girl.

    I have seen countless guys strike out trying to pull civilians either because they don't have the language skills or they think all brasilians are sex craved vixens who desire gringos. I have had tremendous luck with the civilians because I speak the language, I have family that live in Rio and my company has a huge office in SP. I am blessed to be introduce to women by friends and family and I have a great reason why I visit the country so frequently. Not all men are as fortunate..
    Yep I also speak the language and it makes a massive difference. I also look after myself. I see a lot of old gringos that are completely out of shape, poorly dressed and with no Portuguese trying to pull 20 something locals and it just looks pathetic. And to be honest it is insulting to Brazilian people.

    By the way has anyone ever gotten the presidential suite in Panda Motel? My god! I had my own swimming pool, jacuzzi, sauna, small gym, cinema sized screen! It was amazing.

  5. #26999

    Circumstances dictate your experiences.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Why do you guys think that? I have been coming to Copacabana and meeting normal chicks and their families for over 20 years. Same thing with Sosua. Mongers say you can not let people know you are going there. I have stayed there plenty of times and had normal chicks come from other cities to stay with me there. Nobody is paranoid about this except mongers that see themselves as doing something wrong or think that other people suspect them of being up to debauchery.
    I have been traveling to Brasil for 26 years and have lived there for years. The truth is experiences with civilians can be different for each individual. It's not cookie cutter, it varies for each man seeking a non-working girl.

    I have seen countless guys strike out trying to pull civilians either because they don't have the language skills or they think all brasilians are sex craved vixens who desire gringos. I have had tremendous luck with the civilians because I speak the language, I have family that live in Rio and my company has a huge office in SP. I am blessed to be introduce to women by friends and family and I have a great reason why I visit the country so frequently. Not all men are as fortunate.

    I am not going to BS these newbies who don't speak the language and don't have any friends in brasil by telling them it's a breeze picking up females and you can pull any woman you see in the mall. Truth is, its not easy and you will definitely have your work cut out for you. Thats why those 20 year olds quit after a couple of days of trying and just went P4 P.

  6. #26998
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Can I set up a Brazilian GV number?
    Vagabundo already answered. I just tried and got this.
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  7. #26997
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Mongers say you can not let people know you are going there.................Nobody is paranoid about this except mongers that see themselves as doing something wrong or think that other people suspect them of being up to debauchery.
    While I would say Rio doesn't have the same reputation as Thailand, I think most mongers would do well with some discretion. If you go to Rio once, perhaps you can tell all your family, friends and colleagues. If you are going a second, a third or a fourth time, keep it under your hat as they say in English.

    Mr. E if you are a Continental European, there is less sensitivity to the world's oldest profession within Europe. In North American, there is certainly a strong stigma attached to mongering except in certain small groups of like-minded gentlemen.

  8. #26996
    The difference is probably language skills. You probably have much better porto than most. As you suggested that youtube porto language channel is good.

    https://www.youtube.com/c/SpeakingBrazilian

    I find my girl really likes listening to this channel with me, especially little things like why not to be the ugly gringo putting down the local culture.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Why do you guys think that? I have been coming to Copacabana and meeting normal chicks and their families for over 20 years. Same thing with Sosua. Mongers say you can not let people know you are going there. I have stayed there plenty of times and had normal chicks come from other cities to stay with me there. Nobody is paranoid about this except mongers that see themselves as doing something wrong or think that other people suspect them of being up to debauchery.

  9. #26995
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    If a single man says he is vacationing in Rio de Janeiro and is staying in Copa, no way in hell she can she present you to her parents.
    Why do you guys think that? I have been coming to Copacabana and meeting normal chicks and their families for over 20 years. Same thing with Sosua. Mongers say you can not let people know you are going there. I have stayed there plenty of times and had normal chicks come from other cities to stay with me there. Nobody is paranoid about this except mongers that see themselves as doing something wrong or think that other people suspect them of being up to debauchery.

  10. #26994
    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    I would not recommend Brazil for a pursuit of strictly non-pros especially with limited language skills. I became chummy with a crew of cool American twentysomethings in my hotel on a Rio trip. They were committed to the pursuit of non-pros. By day two or three with the abundance of pay for play options, they were like "I'm done trying to pick-up girls. I'm going to throw down some cash and get laid."

    .
    Most guys, especially Americans have a hard time understanding that the average civilian does not view you as the "Golden Ring". In fact, there is a stigma attached to dating gringos because the family / friends want to hear a good reason why you are in brasil. IE (You are working or have family). If a single man says he is vacationing in Rio de Janeiro and is staying in Copa, no way in hell she can she present you to her parents.

  11. #26993
    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    This leads me to an often repeated axiom tell the women you will be there for another month even if you are flying home in a few days.
    I always say that depends on you.

  12. #26992
    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabundo1  [View Original Post]
    Where is good jazz in Rio?
    I like bossa nova at Beco das garrrafas in Copacabana and Vinicius in Ipanema.

  13. #26991
    Hello good people,

    I am traveling through south america. If you have any comparison of rio vs Medellin regarding women I would be very happy. How easy are girls are compared to modelling and hotness? I have 0 Portuguese knowledge but I know a little bit pf Spanish. I am good looking guy with good finances. Do you suggest me to skip Medellin? I am looking for pro and no pro girls. Thank you.

  14. #26990
    Quote Originally Posted by StevenJones  [View Original Post]
    Ah okay, but some places it is easier to make that first move. Is Brazil pretty chill like that?
    It's very easy to make the first move in Brazil, but without Portuguese you are likely going to have a more difficult time. I don't think anyone should get the impression that civilian girls in Brazil are all looking to jump into bed with foreign men. From my experience, Brazil is not as easy as Southeast Asia for making civilian connections.

    There are a lot of obvious factors that will impact the probability of success. How young, how attractive and how much game you have will all be factors. Also, the longer you are in Brazil the easier it will be to make civilian connections. This leads me to an often repeated axiom tell the women you will be there for another month even if you are flying home in a few days.

    I would not recommend Brazil for a pursuit of strictly non-pros especially with limited language skills. I became chummy with a crew of cool American twentysomethings in my hotel on a Rio trip. They were committed to the pursuit of non-pros. By day two or three with the abundance of pay for play options, they were like "I'm done trying to pick-up girls. I'm going to throw down some cash and get laid."

    Go for the pay for play and spend some time chatting up the civilians. Perhaps you will get lucky.

  15. #26989
    Quote Originally Posted by Bearsi  [View Original Post]
    From my experience I saw in rio Brazil is very chill especially on the beaches of ipanema and copacabana.

    Girls are very keen on partying and having a good time.

    Very friendly and if you got a decent knowledge of porto it can help a long way.

    Everyone in rio just seem to want to have a good time.

    It's very bohemian that way.

    I plan to approach more civi girls in rio this time around in September as I've improved my porto alot since 2020 and feel good enough to talk and understand enough without google.
    Ah that sounds great!

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