Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Bearsi]

Or maybe they just do that with certain people. I have never had a hooker act the way these stories describe. I would think it was a joke. I would not even accept a chick that is not a hooker acting like that.

The girl from SP I took to rio was extremely jealous if I talked or had any girl in my phone. Not in a, I'll fuck up your shit type of way but like a GF type of way. She didn't talk or try to see other guys (she lost a lot of potential clients) while we were together so there was some mutual respect, so I didn't mind.

The carioca girls I met in January and even in September were really cool. I asked a few of them where to take this SP girl for good food and views and were really helpful and supportive.

They were from termas and boates (Centaraus, Monte Carlo and Casablanca) They were the type of girls that guys constantly flight out to europe or around Brazil so they knew the game and played along.

Some bonus from meeting top terma girls as they don't feel the need to be threatened or insecure since they have their own adventures unlike SW and cheaper girls that want to play games and might rob your stuff if you invite them over because they don't have anything better to do.

Just my experience anyways.

[Bearsi]

**Taking a Termas Girl home or catch, tag and release?

If you are a frequent visitor to Rio and know a few ladies at each T, if you have any kind of game it is actually very easy to have them come over for free, but there is a cost. In fact they hound you to take them to your hotel for freebies. They of course are hoping you fall in love and marry them, take them to the "promised land" where the roads are paved with gold and everyone earns USD $100 k + year. (the reality is a normal uneducated Brazilian woman will struggle outside her country to earn the minimum wage in a normal job).

The cost: I have seen many a fellow monger take a Termas girl back to the hotel and then, for various reasons not want to see them again, usually because they want a different girl etc each night. Your average Brazilian girl does not take rejection well. She will usually call 100 times over the next few days. May stake out the entrance to your apartment and generally stalk you. This is very, very common in Rio. Sometimes it is better not to have them over to your place catch, tag and release is the way to go. I can count on 2 hands the number of Termas girls I have had meet me at my place, and that is in like nearly 10 years!

**Jealousy (Ciumes)*.

One thing I found surprising on my first few visits to Brazil was the incredible amount of jealously displayed between couples. It is expected from each partner. Normally a Brazilian male or female will not let his or her partner out of the house alone for social occasions. Coming from a relatively calm western background I found this absurd. However within Brazilian culture if you do not display extreme jealousy and I do mean all consuming ridiculous jealously to your partner, it means you do not love them. I have also found out, after spending a lot of time in Rio over the last 7 years, that the jealousy is well founded. Pretty much every Brazilian will cheat on their partner if left alone. 90% of Brazilian girls that have gringo boyfriends will eventually cheat on them if you are not with them 100% of the time. I have had this happen to me and every one of my friends in Rio. Even with some girls that you would think would never cheat on their boyfriends eventually do so. If I had a dollar for every time I heard "I would never have thought she would see another guy" I would be a very rich man.

I think the reason goes like this. If my partner does not have extreme jealously for me, they do not love me. Hence if they leave me a lone for 1 second, they do not love me, hence I can cheat on them because they do not love me. Not logical by western standards but perfectly logical under Brazilian culture. Divorce rates are very high in Brazil, the number one reason, everybody is fucking everybody else.

The above is a excerpt from the Bubba Boy Guide. It is kind of my bible.

As it is Sunday Morning in the Church of Hoaring, I will pray to Saint Bubba Boy. Thank you for the wisdom to see that it is time to release the catch. The wisdom came straight from going to the Samba Schools.

Girls like her are replying to messages. That means, eventually, I will get in there. In the mean time, I have several VM girls who are responding. The key is to just give them simple directions: Go to Metro Jardim Oceanico, take a cab to av gastao senges, I will pay for the cab. Period. Rinse repeat. Make a market. Send the message out to 3 a day.

Go to Metro Jardim Oceanico, vamos no praia, vamos no olegario maciel.

Going to Termas and seeing the strip is fine. It is better than pussy prison strip clubs in the states where you can't can't can't.

But the samba schools are the real thing. In the samba itself during the carnival parade, you will not get the access to the best girls.

The problem with real hoars, like at Termas, is that they get into that work, they can earn some money (like by asking their clients to pay for Christmas food and presents), and then their poor mothers support their profession. Then their face gets on a website, they smoke cigarettes and weed and take other drugs, and they can never go to college in time to make a difference in their life trajectory. That's the bottom 5% of society. No family from the rich world would want that for their daughter. No rich world long term boy friend would really want that for his real long term girlfriend. A rich world guy might want that for a mistress who he schedules like a dog / cleaner / servant for 2 or 3 days a week. So, you go into a prive or a terma and you meet a girl, and you know as bubba boy says, that there can really be no future -- less than two hands worth of fingers in his 7 years on the ground. But these passissistas they are just normal girls, maybe some go into hoaring, but most are probably just check out girls, secretaries, whatever. A maid in my barra building makes 1700 reais a month, the receptionist makes 4000 reais a month. Those are high wages for Brazil because barra is rich. My 3200 a month for a one room efficiency studio (with a bad ass view and great location, and pool) is high for rio. So, these girls will come around and I completely agree with chocolatehuntr that this is one of the best if not the best way to prospect. I have become so burned out and down on the normal terma thing. Ok, yes, if you are in town for 2 weeks, go hunt big game at the zoo, bring your 30.06, you are a stud. But chocolatehuntr is doing it right. 3 months is a long time, and then having VM to go check the box whenever is the right thing to do.

There's a really good and free full documentary on this on youtube.

https://youtu.be/kKvw7yw0iu8

It's about funk music but explores the relationships a typical brazilian has. Granted it focus more on the favelas but the spirit of the average brazilian falls somewhat around these parts. Sex is just a sport than anything else in Brazil. Granted there are many faithful brazilians tho so should not be a blanket statement. Even in the US cheating and unfaithfulness is prevalent it's just that the brazilians are very straightforward about such things. The US has tons of broken towns and trailer park communities that do the same thing that rival favela brazilians so it's not really just a cultural thing. It's a really sad mindset but a person's financial background does play a role. The more I learn about Brazil, the more I see the similarities with the US. Brazil just doesn't have the illusion of a puritan background and is unbashful unlike the US and we get so shocked to see such brazen acts.

For example.

Rap goes on a full list of wordplay and innuendos to sing about sex whereas brazilian funk just goes straight to the point and doesn't sugarcoat anything.

[PilotPete]

Likewise my good Sir, we shall continue down this Telegraph Road.

Well a long time ago, came a man on a track.

Walking thirty miles with a sack on his back.

And he put down his load where he thought it was the best.

He made a home in the wilderness.

He built a cabin and a winter store.

And he ploughed up the ground by the cold lake shore.

And the other travellers came walking down the track...

Some of the best guitar playing I have ever heard.

[Mr Enternational]

What's even more astonishing to me is how jealous hoars can be.

Or maybe they just do that with certain people. I have never had a hooker act the way these stories describe. I would think it was a joke. I would not even accept a chick that is not a hooker acting like that.

[DFWdude]

What's even more astonishing to me is how jealous hoars can be. Like them sucking 10 dicks a day it's just a job, but for me looking at another ass is a fucking treason. It's completely irrational (goes against their financial interests too, because they get dumped agora mesmo), but they seem not to be able to help it. Had this experience on more than one occasion.

LOL so true. Way back in the days of Help I took a girl back to my hotel, and spent the next day with her. The next night she caught me talking to another girl at Help, she shoved the other girl and threw a drink in my face.

[Anaggie]

What's even more astonishing to me is how jealous hoars can be. Like them sucking 10 dicks a day it's just a job, but for me looking at another ass is a fucking treason. It's completely irrational (goes against their financial interests too, because they get dumped agora mesmo), but they seem not to be able to help it. Had this experience on more than one occasion.

Happened to me with a girl that came to see me from Londrina a few years back in rio. She was staying with me in Rio in my hotel while I was at work. Kept texting me to see when I would be back. I had to tell her to stop sending me messages and I would be back in the evening. So she goes out on the beach and meets a friend from londrina who works in rio. She asks me if I would be interested in having her friend tag along for the weekend at a great price. So I agreed and by the time I get back to the room, she and her friend are chilling in the room a few drinks in.

So, we talk about everything and get ready for dinner. I am making out with her and her friend in the room while the other gets ready. We go to dinner and then head to a bar where there is more making out between all three of us.

Get back to the room and I am super excited about what is to come so get ready and get into the bed. The original girl goes into the bathroom to get ready for bed while her friend just jumps into bed with me and we start some serious foreplay. She comes out of the bathroom and just flips her lid. Starts accusing me and her friend of cheating on her and she starts packing her bag. Both me and the friend were like WTF? After about a half an hour of her flipping out, I kick both of them out of the room without paying them for the weekend and call security at the hotel to make sure they don't get back in. The next day, she is texting me trying to apologize and wants to come over with the friend and I am like. WTF is going on? First you blame your friend of trying to take advantage of the situation yet you are still with your friend wanting to come over. I told them NO THANKS. And called some girls from Hotside for the rest of the weekend.

I am still in touch with her and she is still as hot as ever but I am very reluctant to meet with her. She explains that she gets super jealous with her clients that she knows for a while and is working on it which I seriously doubt.

[Vagabundo1]

Definitely I am having this very experience with belladonna. She looks at my phone at all the other hoars, and she is like, you are talking to them. And I am like, *****, you brought 3 of them to the beach, then back to my fucking apartment where you reverse gangbanged pernolited me for a full weekend for 400 reais each, when I really didn't want to fuck them all, I mean it is work, except for that one nice little piece of morena tail, and well, that negra, and well, that mulata. I mean, as long as you go to your safe, punch in them buttons, and out come 12 or 4 or however many hundreds, the hoars will keep sitting on your face, that and weed.

But belladonna was not a fully broken in hoar, and indeed, she was spoiled by terma pricing. Now I have a VM negra, and she already said we will go to the nude beach, and she wants to spank a white girls ass. Oh, I am so happy.

What's even more astonishing to me is how jealous hoars can be. Like them sucking 10 dicks a day it's just a job, but for me looking at another ass is a fucking treason. It's completely irrational (goes against their financial interests too, because they get dumped agora mesmo), but they seem not to be able to help it. Had this experience on more than one occasion.

[Xpartan]

This is so true.

What's even more astonishing to me is how jealous hoars can be. Like them sucking 10 dicks a day it's just a job, but for me looking at another ass is a fucking treason. It's completely irrational (goes against their financial interests too, because they get dumped agora mesmo), but they seem not to be able to help it. Had this experience on more than one occasion.

[Vagabundo1]

Anne amari is over pernoite for 300 r.

That is load #1 of? On her chest.

[Fewdie]

**Taking a Termas Girl home or catch, tag and release?


**Jealousy (Ciumes)*.

One thing I found surprising on my first few visits to Brazil was the incredible amount of jealously displayed between couples. It is expected from each partner. Normally a Brazilian male or female will not let his or her partner out of the house alone for social occasions. Coming from a relatively calm western background I found this absurd. However within Brazilian culture if you do not display extreme jealousy and I do mean all consuming ridiculous jealously to your partner, it means you do not love them. I have also found out, after spending a lot of time in Rio over the last 7 years, that the jealousy is well founded. Pretty much every Brazilian will cheat on their partner if left alone. 90% of Brazilian girls that have gringo boyfriends will eventually cheat on them if you are not with them 100% of the time. I have had this happen to me and every one of my friends in Rio. Even with some girls that you would think would never cheat on their boyfriends eventually do so. If I had a dollar for every time I heard "I would never have thought she would see another guy" I would be a very rich man.

This is so true.

[Vagabundo1]

**Taking a Termas Girl home or catch, tag and release?

If you are a frequent visitor to Rio and know a few ladies at each T, if you have any kind of game it is actually very easy to have them come over for free, but there is a cost. In fact they hound you to take them to your hotel for freebies. They of course are hoping you fall in love and marry them, take them to the "promised land" where the roads are paved with gold and everyone earns USD $100 k + year. (the reality is a normal uneducated Brazilian woman will struggle outside her country to earn the minimum wage in a normal job).

The cost: I have seen many a fellow monger take a Termas girl back to the hotel and then, for various reasons not want to see them again, usually because they want a different girl etc each night. Your average Brazilian girl does not take rejection well. She will usually call 100 times over the next few days. May stake out the entrance to your apartment and generally stalk you. This is very, very common in Rio. Sometimes it is better not to have them over to your place – catch, tag and release is the way to go. I can count on 2 hands the number of Termas girls I have had meet me at my place, and that is in like nearly 10 years!

**Jealousy – (Ciumes)*.

One thing I found surprising on my first few visits to Brazil was the incredible amount of jealously displayed between couples. It is expected from each partner. Normally a Brazilian male or female will not let his or her partner out of the house alone for social occasions. Coming from a relatively calm western background I found this absurd. However within Brazilian culture if you do not display extreme jealousy and I do mean all consuming ridiculous jealously to your partner, it means you do not love them. I have also found out, after spending a lot of time in Rio over the last 7 years, that the jealousy is well founded. Pretty much every Brazilian will cheat on their partner if left alone. 90% of Brazilian girls that have gringo boyfriends will eventually cheat on them if you are not with them 100% of the time. I have had this happen to me and every one of my friends in Rio. Even with some girls that you would think would never cheat on their boyfriends eventually do so. If I had a dollar for every time I heard "I would never have thought she would see another guy" I would be a very rich man.

I think the reason goes like this. If my partner does not have extreme jealously for me, they do not love me. Hence if they leave me a lone for 1 second, they do not love me, hence I can cheat on them because they do not love me. Not logical by western standards but perfectly logical under Brazilian culture. Divorce rates are very high in Brazil, the number one reason, everybody is fucking everybody else.

The above is a excerpt from the Bubba Boy Guide. It is kind of my bible.

As it is Sunday Morning in the Church of Hoaring, I will pray to Saint Bubba Boy. Thank you for the wisdom to see that it is time to release the catch. The wisdom came straight from going to the Samba Schools.

Girls like her are replying to messages. That means, eventually, I will get in there. In the mean time, I have several VM girls who are responding. The key is to just give them simple directions: Go to Metro Jardim Oceanico, take a cab to av gastao senges, I will pay for the cab. Period. Rinse repeat. Make a market. Send the message out to 3 a day.

Go to Metro Jardim Oceanico, vamos no praia, vamos no olegario maciel.

Going to Termas and seeing the strip is fine. It is better than pussy prison strip clubs in the states where you can't can't can't.

But the samba schools are the real thing. In the samba itself during the carnival parade, you will not get the access to the best girls.

The problem with real hoars, like at Termas, is that they get into that work, they can earn some money (like by asking their clients to pay for Christmas food and presents), and then their poor mothers support their profession. Then their face gets on a website, they smoke cigarettes and weed and take other drugs, and they can never go to college in time to make a difference in their life trajectory. That's the bottom 5% of society. No family from the rich world would want that for their daughter. No rich world long term boy friend would really want that for his real long term girlfriend. A rich world guy might want that for a mistress who he schedules like a dog / cleaner / servant for 2 or 3 days a week. So, you go into a prive or a terma and you meet a girl, and you know as bubba boy says, that there can really be no future -- less than two hands worth of fingers in his 7 years on the ground. But these passissistas they are just normal girls, maybe some go into hoaring, but most are probably just check out girls, secretaries, whatever. A maid in my barra building makes 1700 reais a month, the receptionist makes 4000 reais a month. Those are high wages for Brazil because barra is rich. My 3200 a month for a one room efficiency studio (with a bad ass view and great location, and pool) is high for rio. So, these girls will come around and I completely agree with chocolatehuntr that this is one of the best if not the best way to prospect. I have become so burned out and down on the normal terma thing. Ok, yes, if you are in town for 2 weeks, go hunt big game at the zoo, bring your 30.06, you are a stud. But chocolatehuntr is doing it right. 3 months is a long time, and then having VM to go check the box whenever is the right thing to do.

You want a steady diet of passassista pernoite.

You can get a DSLR at RB156, second floor for 350 reais. I picked up a fujifilm DSLR. I need to get more batteries and memory to get professional like CH (chocolatehuntr). But the hobby of photography is worth it for its own sake.

With practice with things like using the flash and battery management, one can do pretty well with just a simple DSLR.

That's how I tell my prospective pernoite girls to come to me in barra (attached image).

[ChocolateHuntr]

Connected with forum member Toronto (a solid wingman) at 19:30 hrs in Uruguaiana for a quick meal, then we jumped on the metro for Sao Cristovao station. We saw many SWs while walking along Rua Franciso Eugenio. Ages ranged from 21 to 26 years. All had kids. Many were still slim and very attractive. They asked for $r50 for 30 minutes plus $r15 for a nearby room to do the deed.

We arrived in VM around 20:30 hrs, and the place was starting to come alive for a Saturday night. New girls were arriving every few minutes, so we just observed the action. We walked around the horseshoe a couple of times and saw some very beautiful girls. Ages of the girls I spoke to ranged from 18 to 21 yrs, most had no kids. Prices ranged from $r60-$r100 for 30 minutes. We returned to the street for a beer, then explored several casas up and down the street.

At that point, a topless petite morena walked past. She was firm, clearly no kids. I asked for her details. She's Joyce, 18 yrs, and her energy was bubbly and fun. A girl next door. Just my type. I asked her price. $r65 for 30 minutes. An offer I couldn't refuse. So off we went. She was just as fun in the room as on the street. BBBJ, DATY, and very passionate. Will definitely see her again.

After the session, I returned to the street to meet Toronto. We walked the horseshoe again, and Toronto decided on a 21-yr-old morena, no kids, in a bikini with a femme fatale look (straight black hair to her shoulders, tatooed, and dark lipstick). The type of girl you wouldn't leave in your apartment with valuables, but certainly acceptable for a 30-minute session in VM. Turns out she has a cocaine habit (even offered Toronto a snort after they finished).

While walking back to Sao Cristovao metro station, we popped into Club Mosaiaco around 23hrs, but didn't see much. The bouncer said it was too early, and we should come back around 2am.

All in all it was a successful night. No problems. No drama. Toronto agreed that personal safety was a non issue. We felt no sense of physical harm at any point. But as has been said numerous times, VM is raw and uncut. It's not for everybody, but worth a visit for the experience.

[Vagabundo1]

The fact that these girls (pictured) are all default non pros is the key.

I got all of their numbers, some are responding, and then it is just game on.

But a samba school is not a terma or place of prostitution. That is the key.

I am at the release phase of this catch tag and release mini relationship with this terma girl, belladonna. She is not only crazy, but her fkn mother is like 110% in support of her daughter's profession. She is 18 but she has no hope of say, going to college. Her ambitions are to be a instagram model, a famous working girl, more or less in her own words (and her mother's). I mean, a man can only take so much of hoaring. I never session in termas as I have discussed. It is good to have the prive option which is the best option IMHO. VM is also good but I don't mind the conditions, but I can see why someone would (and the prives are good there). But the simple fact is, as Mr E says, that you find out what the situation is when you go to a girl without money. I am so sick and tired of dealing with professional sex workers. It may be legal in Brazil, but it doesn't mean it is good work. Even if you get a girl into a mini relationship and get a good arrangement for a month or three, you end up with a hoar who is sucking dick. Say maybe you wanted to get serious. Then you end up with the bottom 5% of society. There are so many sexy women in Rio - girls with normal jobs. The good thing about the samba schools is most of the hottest women are collected right there into a squad of cheerleaders that you can go up to and just get numbers, just like a terma, but they are not working in a terma, so it is not always about pay for play.

So, stay tuned. But look at the motivation in the attached pictures.

Just curious about your Samba school escapades. Anything come to fruition? Are there pros or semi among those women?

[Vagabundo1]

Its a numbers game like anything.

I am on my 3 d or 4th samba school. Only on my 2nd did I start asking for numbers. Now I get some responses. The girls obviously go into the skin biz. One of the girls at TDM 33/2106 is a former passissista that Chocolatehuntr knew from before, as he has been doing this samba game for 5+ years. Without a doubt, the best girls are passissistas, and going to the events is fun for its own sake. Its like a high school or college football game with just the cheerleading.

And you can always go get a pro in Rio.

Just curious about your Samba school escapades. Anything come to fruition? Are there pros or semi among those women?

[Spidy]

Well informed about the Rio scene ...
In the evening I tried out VM for the first time, but the mix of rainwater, piss, dried up beer and shit was just too strong for me ...

I hit Centaurus and 4 x4, impressed by 4 x4 disappointed by Centaurus. I remembered it as an exceptional terma with a good mix and a lot more girls working.

The best, was and still is, and will always be Casablanca. Casa is something else. Expensive, but totally worth it.

I extended my stay, thus another report will follow soon.

As a conclusion I want to mention the value of love motels. Find a good 1 and try it out with your favourite girls.

Thanks for the report. Look forward to the next one to follow.

Yeah, VM isn't rated "E" for "Everyone", but as I've said before, "...VM still remains a magical place for some". But kudos for checking it out and now you know, it's not your thing.

Personally, I always thought, Centaurus was overrated and have always enjoyed 4x4 as my long standing "go to" favorite termas. However, I was surprised w/r to your praise about, Casablanca, as being the "best". Perhaps it's gotten wayyyy better, since last I was there...dunno, but good to see enjoyed yourself there.

BTW, I agree with the love motel assessment. So what was your "go to" love motel? Did you find one in Copa?

Thanks for your update!