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  1. #30087
    Quote Originally Posted by NiteRiderCal  [View Original Post]
    University student doesn't mean anything.
    Back in the Help days you know how many chicks claimed to be university students and nurses and all kind of shit? As far as I could tell, it made no difference when it came to fucking. Besides, I used to be a university student and during that time fucked countless university students. I have also fucked plenty of chicks from various occupations for free. Really nothing special that I would need to pay more for. Besides, I am hiring her to fuck, not to study, do legal briefs, give enemas, or none of that other shit that she may be doing outside of the bed. Her being a university student or whatever the hell else counts the same amount of points as her telling me her favorite color is orange.

    Quote Originally Posted by NiteRiderCal  [View Original Post]
    I asked her how about 1000 for 5 hours. She say nao, that is too low. That she also work for an agency and they paid alot more. I sit there thinking to myself, why the fuck you sit here by yourself all night. She may get 2 or 3 guys per night? How much did she collect, oh, 250 per hour per guy. That is 750 at most. The next day I walk in, she go up to me and gave me a big kiss, hoping I will make the same offer again, but I rejected her.
    There was a chick like that in Kenya a couple of months ago. She said 100. I said 100 shillings (74 cent) is not enough. She said $100. I laughed. I told her 5,000 shillings ($37) as that was the most common price I saw in the forum. She rejected it and said at least 8,000 shillings ($60). I said no way. Like you said, everyday after that she started blowing me up wanting to come for the 5,000. I pulled my Fat Joe on her though. Ohhh, but yesterday's price is not today's price. Somebody with less ego already came and got the 5,000. Today's price is 3,000 shillings ($22).

    Quote Originally Posted by NiteRiderCal  [View Original Post]
    She say 3500 for 5 hour, 500 reai for 1 hour minium. Hahhahha. Seriously, did she just threw out some number and forgot to do math. I rejected her. She texted me again and again for a whole week.
    It is because they lead with ego, then that next day those bills and hunger override the ego and they come to their senses.

  2. #30086
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    I felt the same way when I saw the comment, like "Who the fuck is he calling a cheapskate?" If anything, he should be happy that members are taking time out to help a fellow monger. I don't know where he is from, but in New Jersey we APPRECIATE people who try to save us money, who let us know where we can get a better deal for a fraction of the price!
    You have to remember that it is always different when it comes to pussy. If this was a forum about fixing cars and the guy said he went to the dealership and bought a part for 3000 reais then someone comes on and says you can get that same part aftermarket for 500 reais, the person would be thanked by everyone instead of being called a cheapskate by some. There would be nobody egging the guy on to keep going to the dealership because it is his money and he should buy those OEM parts if he pleases. But bring pussy into the equation and egos get big and all bets are off.

  3. #30085
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    That doesn't resemble me. The fact of the matter is that he paid an absurd amount of money for the service! That's why you knew he was going to get beat up. He gave new meaning to the saying "everything is big in Texas". And now that he understands that, hopefully he will do better by his money the next time. But at the end of the day, it's as you say. It's his money. He can do what he wants to with it. But if he comes into a forum of public discourse telling us what he did with it, then it's only fair and reasonable to expect that those in that public forum just might have something to say to him about it. Don't want to hear it? Then don't post in a public forum and keep to yourself what you did with your money!
    I felt the same way when I saw the comment, like "Who the fuck is he calling a cheapskate?" If anything, he should be happy that members are taking time out to help a fellow monger. I don't know where he is from, but in New Jersey we APPRECIATE people who try to save us money, who let us know where we can get a better deal for a fraction of the price! It might come across as tough love but at the end of the day, we don't want to see someone be taken advantage of. I don't understand members complaining about. "How dare you save me money! I guess it takes all kinds.

  4. #30084

    Hmm University student

    University student doesn't mean anything. You can find University student in the termas. She was very hot. After the room, I ask for her number and if she want to spend 5 hours with me. She say only on a few specific day because she have to go to the University. I asked her how about 1000 for 5 hours. She say nao, that is too low. That she also work for an agency and they paid alot more. I sit there thinking to myself, why the fuck you sit here by yourself all night. She may get 2 or 3 guys per night? How much did she collect, oh, 250 per hour per guy. That is 750 at most. The next day I walk in, she go up to me and gave me a big kiss, hoping I will make the same offer again, but I rejected her. Every subsequent night she try and I push her away. BTW, these girl do talk to each other. A fuck another girl and she ask me to take her number and she want to meet me outside of the club.

    Another girl in SP, at Casarão Augusta. I already fuck, we was walking out of the club, and saw this crazy hot girl walk in. I told my brazilian friend to get her phone number. Next day I texted her. She say 3500 for 5 hour, 500 reai for 1 hour minium. Hahhahha. Seriously, did she just threw out some number and forgot to do math. I rejected her. She texted me again and again for a whole week.

    See, when a girl do shit like that. She might be hot, but it turn me off. Its maybe illogical on my part. In my head, I'm thinking, Since I already have a bad vibe, it is going to be bad.

  5. #30083
    The premium on a university student.

    I can see that, especially a international student who could potentially be a Baby Momma, with a education and the ability to earn a income and pass on tradition history, etc.

    So Professor Vagabundo is at school today, and I get a Ï have a boyfriend from a girl who is tutoring me.

    I still pay her $100 r to read me some music lyrics in her native tongue, which would look really good wrapped around my cock.

    But on the uber out of the university, two things happen.

    I text a italian university girl, like a hot af body building Italian girl. My inner Enzo Ferrari has like 12 cylinders churning as little Enzos find themselves flowing up my gonads to get in line.

    Then some Brazilian student who does want to hug me and start calling me amor and beijos and all that texts and calls in the hour long 100 r ride back to Recreio.

    But I don't feel that animal want to plough her brazilian big bunda the way I do my little Russian Seka doll.

    But yesterday or the day before I fuck Monique, two times and night, once in the morning, BBFSCIP.

    She is coming back over Saturday for the swing at Paris.

    Well anyway, I can see the premium for a university girl. But then you have to look at the socioeconomic class -- Nova Iguacu will get you a university federal, what specialty exactly? Hmm.

    Now there is a university in. ? . REDACTED heheh.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    Yo my dude, you keep repeating and putting emphasis on "University student". So her being in a university makes her pussy better? Most guys here incl myself understand the low mileage factor and I too hunt them, especially non-pros. In most countries where p4 p is legal has a huge % of university students doing it. On SA or in brothels. So I'm not sure on that special fetish on university attendance.

    The cricism is normal. Happens in every forum because you did indeed overpay. I can get "university" girls in the states on SA for $300-$500. Some will spend the entire day. You spent nearly $1000 USD!! And not even an overnight date.

    The point of the comments is to look at these girls objectively, and have a talk with your dick before you meet her and tell the little guy to not even blink during your date. That way you can make a fair assessment or whether or not she's being fair, greedy, etc. And not just letting the thinking coming out of your pants. As a gent to a gent, overpaying doesn't earn you extra points with the girls, in fact it does the opposite.

    The rules of mongering are silent, no one will enforce them or come after you. Besides obviously it's your money and you can do whatever the fxk you want. I have money too, enough to blow 2000 r a day on pussy and I don't feel a thing. A month and half here so far and still rocking. But I do care on how these women see me out there. Hence why I'll call them out if they try to take 100 r from me without earning it.

    My principle is you must earn it, or I give generously. Don't take or try to be smart. When a woman especially a wg in our hobby says prev guy paid this, then it's a flag to pay attention to. That game isn't that uncommon.

    That's all bro. But do what you want.

  6. #30082
    Agreed. Spot on.

    Quote Originally Posted by NiteRiderCal  [View Original Post]
    Brazil is not popular with American right now. The flight is too long. Just my little observation. Back in the day, there was San francisco bay area Myredbook. It was fun, there was no reason to travel anywhere. But that turn into shit and expensive. Next come Humaniplex in S. Cal. That was so much fun. I fuck at least 10 or more pornstar or girl that later on become pornstar. It was better than anything I ever experience, better than Brazil, Germany, Tijuana or anywhere. But over time, that also turn into shit. So the Cali guy go to Tijuana, these day, it is shit compare to the past. Now it is columbia, guys are already complain about increasing price.

    It just something that I notice, whenever, there is a massive amount of american guy, they make it rain, they tip and thing turn to shit.

  7. #30081

    Heck yeah

    Quote Originally Posted by Anaggie  [View Original Post]
    As soon as I saw your post, I knew you were about to get a beating. But don't worry too much about it. Stick to whatever you feel comfortable doing and more importantly. What you feel comfortable paying It is YOUR MONEY. Fuck what a bunch of cheapskates say especially when you are in Rio for a few days at a time. I can assure you that you aren't going to find the girl that you are looking for at any of the termas. Especially the trash termas. Enjoy your time. Enjoy the girls you prefer. Make the memories and move forward.

    From one Texan to another (I assume you are a Texan from your screen name) . Do send a PM if you have any questions about Rio or SP as I have been visiting for the last 20 yrs for work related trips with weekends thrown in for fun😜.
    Glad to see our buddy has found someone to back him up. But bro you might be taking this shit too seriously. If you read from any country and cities here, you'll see that this topic brings the most heated debates. Honestly no one truly care and it's for fun, although many usually say it's ruining the game. I don't live anywhere permanently so personally I couldn't care any less.

    That said, no need to team up or bring a Texan gang together or losing sleep over this LOL. In case that's the plan. Guys are going to do whatever they want anyway. In fact he should pay her 10 k USD next time, then I will find her and pay her 200 r / $40 USD and bareback her all night incl CIP. That is of course if Vagabundo1 don't find her first LOL.

    When a wg gets a nice payday from a chomp, they then charge their favorite clients less or take their BF shopping that week. I can't even begin to tell you how many SA girls that still today I'm banging bareback for $50 USD, university students too ha ha. And charge others min 5 x that amt. Clearly others were making up for my low amts, few would claim that too and said I was lucky being in a BF zone. This also means secretly I should be grateful for those who overpay. Seriously!!

    All crap talk aside, negotiating skills is important. I have my own games and tactics. One of them is I let them know I'm not here on vacation and in town a while, and can easily be a resource, prefer to go out as a friend, BF, not as a client. Nonpros and semipros love that when you establish the environment as a normal friendship. Especially for the prideful ones that do not like being seen as a wg.

    We rarely discuss money, we discuss business, I've helped girls invest, showed them how to set up webcams for those who model, etc. Sometimes these cam models get taken advantage of by agencies, and have no clue how to set themselves up independently. I also help them practice Math and basic English while in doggy style taking a pounding. Say "Yes daddy" louder! Basically, be more useful than just a dick or ppm. The website is against ppm anyway and encourages actual relationships, mentorships. Even though most do ppm. You can do these things even on short trips and I have.

    I've read many reports of fellas building these friendships days or weeks before they arrive in town. And with that this is no brag or some rare success story. Based on other reports many have done this, and this is how you get the BF / friend treatment and you're not just a SD ATM machine.

    These comments / suggestions and replies are to help the entire community as a whole, especially new mongers. They're not just "beatings" or critics. Recently someone wrote about his experience in SE Asia that wasnt so great, and noted that wg discriminates based on age, another mentioned the big dick factor is a thing.

    What I think on this is that if you let the girl "Defaults" to her price then those things may be in effect. Gringo (which varies in types) tax does exist; for age among other factors. This is why negotiation and relationship building matters. You'll beat the status quo and get a fair treatment if you apply some intelligence. It's not magic.

  8. #30080
    Quote Originally Posted by TexaBroad  [View Original Post]
    Didn't realise would spark so much debate but fair enough I understand we don't want to spoil the market. Would just say we are talking about two different markets here. I've spent some proper time in Rio now. This was my 3rd time. My first trip I did spend as little as 800 BRL for an SA girl to be fair and a lot of "mileage" out of that 800 too from a university student.
    Yo my dude, you keep repeating and putting emphasis on "University student". So her being in a university makes her pussy better? Most guys here incl myself understand the low mileage factor and I too hunt them, especially non-pros. In most countries where p4 p is legal has a huge % of university students doing it. On SA or in brothels. So I'm not sure on that special fetish on university attendance.

    The cricism is normal. Happens in every forum because you did indeed overpay. I can get "university" girls in the states on SA for $300-$500. Some will spend the entire day. You spent nearly $1000 USD!! And not even an overnight date.

    The point of the comments is to look at these girls objectively, and have a talk with your dick before you meet her and tell the little guy to not even blink during your date. That way you can make a fair assessment or whether or not she's being fair, greedy, etc. And not just letting the thinking coming out of your pants. As a gent to a gent, overpaying doesn't earn you extra points with the girls, in fact it does the opposite.

    The rules of mongering are silent, no one will enforce them or come after you. Besides obviously it's your money and you can do whatever the fxk you want. I have money too, enough to blow 2000 r a day on pussy and I don't feel a thing. A month and half here so far and still rocking. But I do care on how these women see me out there. Hence why I'll call them out if they try to take 100 r from me without earning it.

    My principle is you must earn it, or I give generously. Don't take or try to be smart. When a woman especially a wg in our hobby says prev guy paid this, then it's a flag to pay attention to. That game isn't that uncommon.

    That's all bro. But do what you want.

  9. #30079

    Nailed it

    Great tips on travel but best part is pointing out there's no way you can get bored with the ladies of rio in just one month LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Where have you been and what do you like? A one-month stay gives you a lot of options.

    1. Near Rio: Buzios, Ilha Grande for beaches, Petropolis and Parati for the colonial history.

    2. SP.

    3. Iguassu Falls: You must see this if you've never been.

    4. Florianapolis and Santa Catarina for the beaches.

    5. Salvador and the Northeast for food, history and beaches.

    6. Manaus for the Amazon tours.

    7. Lencois Marenhances (sp), for breathtaking landscapes, but it's not an easy destination.

    However, if you're only interested in the hobby, I can't imagine that you (or anyone) won't find enough meninas in Rio to keep you occupied for a month.

  10. #30078

    Cheapskates?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anaggie  [View Original Post]
    As soon as I saw your post, I knew you were about to get a beating. But don't worry too much about it. Stick to whatever you feel comfortable doing and more importantly. What you feel comfortable paying It is YOUR MONEY. Fuck what a bunch of cheapskates say especially when you are in Rio for a few days at a time. I can assure you that you aren't going to find the girl that you are looking for at any of the termas. Especially the trash termas. Enjoy your time. Enjoy the girls you prefer. Make the memories and move forward.

    From one Texan to another (I assume you are a Texan from your screen name) . Do send a PM if you have any questions about Rio or SP as I have been visiting for the last 20 yrs for work related trips with weekends thrown in for fun😜.
    That doesn't resemble me. The fact of the matter is that he paid an absurd amount of money for the service! That's why you knew he was going to get beat up. He gave new meaning to the saying "everything is big in Texas". And now that he understands that, hopefully he will do better by his money the next time. But at the end of the day, it's as you say. It's his money. He can do what he wants to with it. But if he comes into a forum of public discourse telling us what he did with it, then it's only fair and reasonable to expect that those in that public forum just might have something to say to him about it. Don't want to hear it? Then don't post in a public forum and keep to yourself what you did with your money!

  11. #30077

    American guy are desperate

    Brazil is not popular with American right now. The flight is too long. Just my little observation. Back in the day, there was San francisco bay area Myredbook. It was fun, there was no reason to travel anywhere. But that turn into shit and expensive. Next come Humaniplex in S. Cal. That was so much fun. I fuck at least 10 or more pornstar or girl that later on become pornstar. It was better than anything I ever experience, better than Brazil, Germany, Tijuana or anywhere. But over time, that also turn into shit. So the Cali guy go to Tijuana, these day, it is shit compare to the past. Now it is columbia, guys are already complain about increasing price.

    It just something that I notice, whenever, there is a massive amount of american guy, they make it rain, they tip and thing turn to shit.

  12. #30076
    Quote Originally Posted by TexaBroad  [View Original Post]
    Didn't realise would spark so much debate.

    Like I said (and I am of average means by no means rich) I would rather spend money on meeting someone truly memorable like this instead of a lot of less-appealing girls. Though I am sure there are some diamonds to be had even at the 150 BRL level, I can't see a well-travelled / english-speaking university student etc being found there.
    As soon as I saw your post, I knew you were about to get a beating. But don't worry too much about it. Stick to whatever you feel comfortable doing and more importantly. What you feel comfortable paying … It is YOUR MONEY. Fuck what a bunch of cheapskates say especially when you are in Rio for a few days at a time. I can assure you that you aren't going to find the girl that you are looking for at any of the termas. Especially the trash termas. Enjoy your time. Enjoy the girls you prefer. Make the memories and move forward.

    From one Texan to another (I assume you are a Texan from your screen name) . Do send a PM if you have any questions about Rio or SP as I have been visiting for the last 20 yrs for work related trips with weekends thrown in for fun😜.

  13. #30075
    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabundo1  [View Original Post]
    As a comparison, see.

    https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhant...yasmin-mineira


    You can find plenty of mineiras (the hottest brazilians) in photoaccompanhantes and even vm (I have some pics), and do them bare for 150 at your place after doing a session in their spot.

    Easy to see the metro out here in 10 years if not 2.
    Are the reviews linked to PA site real or do the girls write them? Sorting by photo verified is useful feature on site but it has mix of sexy and nasty looking garotas. Many of which my punter 6th sense tells me are scammers which I fucking hate. Not because I fall for that at this stage but they waste my valuable time sorting through.

    And before anyone tells me to read threads on PA save it. I've fucking read the threads. PA seems to have mixed reviews.

  14. #30074

    Feedback on sa

    Didn't realise would spark so much debate but fair enough I understand we don't want to spoil the market. Would just say we are talking about two different markets here. I've spent some proper time in Rio now. This was my 3rd time. My first trip I did spend as little as 800 BRL for an SA girl to be fair and a lot of "mileage" out of that 800 too from a university student. Invited to party with her etc as well. I also got scammed for 4. 5 k. I would accept this one was a pure scam as wasn't aware of the local market at this time & paid a US / Europe SA price. The second trip I visited some prives etc and paid sub-200 on occasion. I still mostly stuck with 4 x4 which was a lot more expensive. Especially for takeout. I would typically offer 1,000 BRL to girls on top of the takeout fee from 4 x4 - the girls explained they get c40% of the takeout fee from memory. Yes this is expensive but I'm only interested in meeting super-attractive / all-natural / english-speaking & I found more than 1 at 4 x4.

    I guess this last trip the difference was this 2nd SA girl (Lorie) is probably the best out of the 150+ that I have seen worldwide. So is she overcharging for rio, probably yes. But seeing someone like her (all-natural / authentic university student / speaks near-fluent english / proper GFE / well-travelled & very intelligent & made this old-man feel very young again) I would pay 3 k to again. I have seen someone in Rio for 150 BRL. I would forget this experience within a week but remember probably the 3 k spent on SA Lorie for a very, very long time. Keen to fly her out etc. She told me upfront that she wouldn't meet for less than 3,000 because she had exams coming up. Maybe she would take a little less. I offered 2,000 and she just flat-out said no. Try her and see if she scammed me or sticks to her guns at that price, would be interested to know! My feeling here is that top-tier GFE experience SA will be able to charge such numbers as there will always be people willing to pay. Like I said (and I am of average means by no means rich) I would rather spend money on meeting someone truly memorable like this instead of a lot of less-appealing girls. Though I am sure there are some diamonds to be had even at the 150 BRL level, I can't see a well-travelled / english-speaking university student etc being found there. Hope I get proven wrong as it will make my next trip much cheaper! I am going to sort out bitcoin to upgrade so can discuss more via PM.

  15. #30073

    Paris Tuesday night

    Paris Tuesday night.

    Tacoma a ISGer and I went to Paris last night, which was anticlimatic as I had trained 60 minutes Muay Thai at a university where I was smoking ganja with hot ass college chicks and the workers, but I was all pumped up from 60 minutes at a high heart zone rate so I wanted to go grab some ass and some numbers.

    The hottest ass in paris is a new one, jessica, big not horse big bunda, she would not give me her wassap and even claimed she did not have insta. How is that for a fckin heisman?! As I have alluded to, reverse racism is a thing, as she is mulatta and I profile as white though I am half asian, which is not exactly a minority, is it? Anyway, I am a victim of the hottest black women who enact reverse racism against me, haha. Perhaps she was justified in lying to me as I made my first impression with her with sunglasses on over a big black eye from a fall on a hike though everyone obviously thinks it is from being punched, which is plausible as I box 2 times a week with the muay thai team on campus. But I grabbed her ass. She would do a 40 minute session for 350 r. I don't give a fuk, as I was not going to session anyway, as was my wingman who has all the pussy he can handle from SA and repeats etc, as do I, and in any case talking to and chasing real college girls is more fun and exciting anyway, who needs apps, well there are the right wassap groups.

    Ok, anyway, I do know melissa, who has been there at paris for 3 years, and I have pernoited with her and she gave a bad session to senor nounce a few months ago. I chatted to melissa about a threesome, but I know how that goes, all covered, and then there are two girls at your place and scandalo, lose your apartment, etc, so it was just a idea. I would go to praia macumba smoke some ganja and fuk on the beach with these hoars anytime, but I have hoars for that who perform well.

    Anyway, the realest and best in some ways interactoin of the night was with the girl at the front desk, who is also hot af BTW. On the way in I say, I am a professioal, I am a go go boy like bruna surfistina dj, that gets a laugh. On the way out, I repeat the line, and she offers me a discount. My bill is 44 (30 entrada and 14 r for my diet coke). I give her a 50. And she gives me 10, a 4 reais discount. But she does it with a sexy smile which says, hey vagabundo, I want to have your gringo lips and tongue buried between my legs eating my burning pussy on command. To which I say, eu sou go go boy, eu tenho piroca 32 centimeters, grosso (I have a thick 12 inch dick). Normalmente, meninas me paga 500 reais por hora por voce vou fazer disconta. (normally women pay me 500 reais an hour to fuck them, but for you I will do a discount). She laughs and say, por mim 200 reais. (for me 200 reais, right? There is a cop, policia militar officer REDACTED sitting there with a 9 mm on his hip. I am playing a russian playlist (thanks miamiboy) on my gamer earbuds to learn russian for my real love a 22 year old russian exchange student who sits on my face while I play those songs every Tuesday and thursay in the muay thai room where I have a key. (see world according to garp).

    So anyway, having gained 4 reais by my winning sense of humor, in front of her boss and a cop, I take out my earbuds because I might be offending some locals, and with my superb verbal judo, I go get the only new number of the night, I get the number of the cop, REDACTED!

    How is that for smooth.

    I go back to casa vagabundo, listen to russian music, like Miyagi I got love, play radio on music. youtube.com, and I play videos of my russian tutor sitting on my face which I shot Tuesday afternoon on the muay thai mats with her light pink pussy lips, and then her asshole, impaled on the bright pink usb dildo that a fellow ISG member brought me in January (17 usd on amazon), a 43 minute long video that is interrupted by her squirting all over my dji action 4 which fortunately has a scuba case.

    The key to giving good head to a chick who can pick any dick in rio is to be her slave, and to use just the tongue.

    And let her pick the porn.

    Even if it is hardcore fem dom porn.

    I mean, I don't care if she watches chicks with strapons fuck guys up the ass on the macbook as long as she lets me put my medium sized but thick dick up her ass to shoot a quick wad between writing her masters thesis at the library, which closes at 22 h, which is when I leave campus.

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