Rio de Janeiro Reports

[WyattEarp]

Does that mean these clinicas and prives are illegal?

No, not really.

Some locals might be able to explain it better, but I believe girls in clinicas, prives and termas are basically independent agents. The venue is renting you the room. The girls are providing their services with no strings, no coercion. The girls probably can quit anytime they want. Although, they have to follow the rules of the management while they are working there.

As someone was saying, RJMassagem and other places are trying to market and differentiate themselves as legitimate massage places. I avoid these types of places in RJ and SP. I don't find "real" Brazilian massages very good (as say compared to Asia). I also don't want to have to coax the masseuse to provide me extra services or get her to meet me outside the salon. However, I hope Natty Bumpo had a great time with Clara from RJMassagem at his place. She is a looker. Look forward to his report.

As far as duds, if you monger enough you will come across them. Many of these termas and Mabs girls are great sales people. Getting clients to fork over money is competitive business between these girls. They know how to use their feminine guile. I will stop short of calling them "teases" because technically they will fuck you just not with the GFE passion we desire.

Many times the signals are there and my brain just ignores them. There was this bombshell 9+ in Help Disco. An absolute stunning branca head to toe. For some reason, maybe the fact she wanted $100, she was getting passed over. Some of the clues that she is going to be a lousy fuck were probably her incredible club outfit, her impeccable highlighted hair and solid English skills. As the night wore on, I offer her $80. She accepts and it's off to my Copa apartment not far away.

Back at the apartment, she's now in a rush. She talks about how she lived and stripped in Miami. You know she would make $20 for just a lap dance. Yeah, yeah, whatever. This is Rio. I get her on the balcony overlooking the ocean and the lights of Copacabana Beach. We go at it on the plastic patio furniture. It was a nice night. Everything seemed to be perfect. The problem is she starts urging me to cum almost the minute we go from the short BJ to insertion. She would not shut up and she complained her pussy was tired.

It was a learning lesson. At the disco in its day, there were dozens of cute, sexy, less worldy girls who would fuck you all night for $50. They would be very appreciative and work to please you if you treated them nice. This is kind of the deal at Mabs, but on a much smaller scale.

[Turgid]

If someone shops online and not at a retail store because it is cheaper, do you consider that person cheap Charlie?...

Not at all but when he becomes angry at you for shopping at the retail store then something's wrong with him.

[Vagabundo1]

Value Investing by Smart Money.

Speaking as one of those so called cheap charlies, I would just respectfully point out that there is an important point to be made. Vagabundo (and Senor Sperto, and Senor Bubba Boy, and a long line of successful value investors, Warren Buffet, et al) is not so much worried about pricing vagabundo out of the market. Vagabundo assures you, he could easily buy any pussy on the market in Rio. It is, rather, that Vagabundo does not want to be seen by the locals as dumb money, or in stock market terms a "market order".

As for Senor SK, I'm not reading his posts, as I decided not to hang with him, as he violated forum rules, which he corrected by taking down the offending posts. That said, if a possible wingman has IFF (identify friend or foe) issues, or can't follow the rules of the forum, then this forum member doesn't really need to take the risk of having to figure out whether the "girl" he picks has a penis or a clit.

That said, I mean no offense to Senor SK, who has written some very long, informative, and useful posts, especially for a first time after Covid monger coming from California, which was once a nice place for a man, but may no longer be so friendly to humans with dicks.

Tier 1 termas like 4 x4 are great. Vagabundo loves the vibe, the bunda, the talent. For a monger like FLCNHeavy, who identified himself as the ISG member who spent 1000 reais for a pernoite at 4 x4 (after Vagabundo, respectfully, tried to discretely conceal his identity, see the relevant posts if you like; it was in fact, Mr E, our most prolific writer here who was outraged by the 1000 reais pernoite pricing, especially when it was revealed, again by FLCNHeavy to be for just to 02 h); or for Anaggie who spent by his own post 3500 reais for 4 girls at 4 x 4 in 8 hours, and again, Anaggie gets positive props from this ISG member for smartly getting bareback by bringing his tests, a protip for a Agriculture and Mining expert if ever there was one. But Bubba Boy's guide observed that the smart local mongers go to tier 1 termas like 4 x 4 or Perola Negra or Paris Cafe to get numbers, and then to get them back to your apartment, for the own toilet advantage, preferably in a suite with a hydromassagem. Even though the rooms at 4 x4 or even Solarium are top notch, they are not a private pool and hydromassagem like a good love motel, like carbonara in Bangu, or in your luxury hotel or apartment suite.

Anyhoo. You could say Warren Buffet is a cheap bastard. He'd probably take that as a compliment. Likewise the experienced market maker who gets market maker leverage -- that means he can buy the same option contract, you, the retail investor buy with cash with borrowed money precisely because the exchange considers him to be smart money.

My view is don't be a retail investor. Be a professional.

There are military analogies to be made too, but I've made my point. Again. Now, as Senor sperto suggests, Vagabundo too will ignore AmorPorFavor.

Pax de Christo.

He meant that now you are going to be attacked by all the cheap charlies on ISG for spending too much money and pricing them out of the market.

[Nounce]

He meant that now you are going to be attacked by all the cheap charlies on ISG for spending too much money and pricing them out of the market.

If someone shops online and not at a retail store because it is cheaper, do you consider that person cheap Charlie? I understand it is annoying to some. I think most of the times, people are saying one can buy the same thing for less. Whether it is the same thing or not, that is another debate.

[SoberHans69]

. Part of the reason is because while one girl was putting it on, the base of the rubber SNAPPED on to my dick. Instead of rolling it on, she was stretching it out and rolling it inside out because she put it on backwards. For some reason, some of these girls put the cover on stretching the base. And every time they do, I'm concerned it's going to snap on my dick.

I hate it when hookers do that. It's crazy how the majority of hookers don't know how to put a condom on a customer's cock. It's like a chef not being able to cook rice or something.

[SinfullyKorean]

The Cane doesn't have "duds". I take great pride in my selection process, and pulling a dud just isn't something that happens to me. In fact, I can't even recall the last time it happened. We all have our own techniques, but I don't know. I mean some things just can't be taught. You're either born with a certain talent and ability, or you aren't. The first thing is never ever be "thirsty" for some pussy, and never act like you have to fuck everything that moves, or that you just have to session with somebody no matter what. That helps avoid pulling duds for sure. Don't be thirsty. Anybody has the capability to avoid being like that. You manage the buceta. Don't let the buceta manage you. The termas of Rio and the boates of Sampa suit me just fine!

That works for you, this works for me. I don't really care that I pulled a dud. I'm going back in just a few days. My goal is to shoot as many times as I can while I'm still here. LOL. I've been averaging more than 1 fuck a day (for 12 days now). Sometimes, that dud will be on round 2. And this one time, it was on round 1 (but 3rd of the day). I don't mind. She was someone I found attractive and got a rise out of me at MAB'S. This was after I skipped out on several 8's at 4 x4. Why should I care? I spent my money the way I wanted. And I wanted to scratch that itch. Don't regret it for 1 sec.

He meant that now you are going to be attacked by all the cheap charlies on ISG for spending too much money and pricing them out of the market.

Haha, that makes sense. Fortunately, no bank was broken in Rio. And Scandallo is probably not the cheap charlies' watering hole anyways.

[AmorPorFavor]

LOL. I was kind of worried as I posted that. "Did I post more info than I should've?" Fortunately, I've only met gents, successful people in their own fields, from ISG on my trip so far.

He meant that now you are going to be attacked by all the cheap charlies on ISG for spending too much money and pricing them out of the market.

[SinfullyKorean]

Oh, he said it. Here come the ISG wolves for your carcass.

LOL. I was kind of worried as I posted that. "Did I post more info than I should've?" Fortunately, I've only met gents, successful people in their own fields, from ISG on my trip so far.

[The Cane]

I don't think I like the boates and termas scene as much as I do the prives. Reason being, one girl (Beatrice) was great GFE while in the club. But when in the bedroom, she seemed eager to leave, even though the session was decent. 2nd reason: it could turn out to be an expensive mistake. This last girl from MAB's isn't necessarily an expensive mistake. But compared to prives, she was. The half HR I got from Victoria was half the price of that MAB's girl. Even if you get a dud at a prive or clinica, the price is so low, at least you got your nut off (probably).

The Cane doesn't have "duds". I take great pride in my selection process, and pulling a dud just isn't something that happens to me. In fact, I can't even recall the last time it happened. We all have our own techniques, but I don't know. I mean some things just can't be taught. You're either born with a certain talent and ability, or you aren't. The first thing is never ever be "thirsty" for some pussy, and never act like you have to fuck everything that moves, or that you just have to session with somebody no matter what. That helps avoid pulling duds for sure. Don't be thirsty. Anybody has the capability to avoid being like that. You manage the buceta. Don't let the buceta manage you. The termas of Rio and the boates of Sampa suit me just fine!

[SinfullyKorean]

That is because she just recently changed her name. She used to be known as Maia or Mayra, and now is Vitoria. She worked at a Prive 3 or 4 years agao, then gave the Termas a try, and now is back to Prive work place. Enjoy!

Ah that makes sense. Victory is excellent. I've booked a 2 HR appointment with her since there's not much to do before my flight, and I'd rather just chill with her than wander around aimlessly with my carry-ONS.

Day 4

Prive

I wasn't able to visit Carol, who's highly rated on GPA, yesterday. So I booked 1 HR with her. I'd rate her a 6. 5 in looks. Her face is a 7, and her body's a 6. She has a bit of a gut, but has large, natural breasts. She says she doesn't like her pics on Onix because they've been shopped. I guess lots of clients as her about her pics? What she lacked in looks, she made up for in excellent GFE service. She started by asking if I enjoy kissing, and I answered in the affirmative. From there, the DFK was mind blowing. The way she worked her tongue, I think it's the best kissing I've experienced thus far. It's kind of funny how every time I write a review, I feel like I'm saying "This is the best GFE so far. " LOL. But it's true, the GFE sessions have been getting better and better. Her BBBJ was also very good, with plenty of eye contact. After a while, she put the cover on. We only went for CG. I didn't want to switch positions because the kissing was so intense. After finishing round 1, we just kept kissing. Kissing and talking for a good 20 min. Then round 2 started, but I had a hard time keeping it up in K9. I thought I was done and we just went into MISH where we were just making out. Her wonderful DFKs got me hard again. This time, I was able to complete round 2. Only the 2nd time during my Brazil trip that someone's been able to get 2 out of me so far.

Boates

I was pretty excited to check out what these boates and termas had to offer. I'd already unloaded 2 for the day, so I knew I'd be thinking with my big head and not my little. I decided before going in that I'd only session if I found a 9 or 10.

First, we went to Terma 65 (entrance fee R50). Most of the girls were large and / or tall. Not really either of our styles. So after finishing our drinks (beer R20), we headed over to 4 x4. If you're visiting by yourself, I don't recommend walking from one place to another. Streets are narrow, dark, and do not have many people around. 4 x4 was much more to my liking (entrance: R50, beer: R20). There was a party going on, so lots of girls were going crazy, some making out with one another. There were probably about 5 solid 8's. Most were lower. One 8 noticed I was eyeing her, came over and started making out. My buddy decided to head over to 502 where he found a girl to his liking immediately. While I'm making out with this cutie, and she's molesting me under my robe. About an hour later, I get a text from my friend saying he's done. So we meet back outside and head over to MAB'S. We eat and drink. There's this really cute, tall branca. She reminds me of a young Julia Roberts (Pretty Woman reenactment? LOL). But when we got to my hotel (no issues with front desk), I found her to be just a bit too thin with saggy breasts. I think she was still lactating from just having a kid. But it didn't seem like she wanted me to make the milk come out. So an hour of making out, getting a BBBJ cost me R280. It wasn't too bad.

I don't think I like the boates and termas scene as much as I do the prives. Reason being, one girl (Beatrice) was great GFE while in the club. But when in the bedroom, she seemed eager to leave, even though the session was decent. 2nd reason: it could turn out to be an expensive mistake. This last girl from MAB's isn't necessarily an expensive mistake. But compared to prives, she was. The half HR I got from Victoria was half the price of that MAB's girl. Even if you get a dud at a prive or clinica, the price is so low, at least you got your nut off (probably). And Maria (the one 10 I've met thus far), kind of ruined my fantasy with her high price. It's nothing compared to what I'd pay in the states. But I think I prefer the 1 HR fantasy at a prive. Some of these girls are so good. And more than their looks, it's their attitudes that have made me cum twice in one session. Which leads me to:

Day 5

Decided to check out Victoria at Onix again. Since I didn't want to walk around carrying my stuff, I made a 2 HR appointment and timed the session so I finish on time to make my flight. The 2 HR session was amazing. I was afraid it'd get boring. But her English is really good. Lots of DFK again, BBBJ was pretty good. Started in CG, finished in closed MISH while making out. Afterwards, we talked about travel, foods (she told me I've been eating all the wrong Brazilian foods LOL), and got into some personal stuff. Throughout the conversation, we'd DFK. I started getting hard again, so she gave me some more BBBJ, cover on, and K9. But every time the cover comes on in round 2, I start going limp. Part of the reason is because while one girl was putting it on, the base of the rubber SNAPPED on to my dick. Instead of rolling it on, she was stretching it out and rolling it inside out because she put it on backwards. For some reason, some of these girls put the cover on stretching the base. And every time they do, I'm concerned it's going to snap on my dick. Anyways, K9 isn't happening, which is a shame because her ass was pretty nice. I just lay on top of her and we make out again. Just like yesterday, the DFK got another rise out of me. We restarted round 2 and after a while, I was complete. The 2 hrs went by really fast. I'm glad I didn't take her 800 pernoite offer and just did her at her work, even though it's super small. BTW, I went to Onix 3 times, and got a different room each time. They were pretty much all the same, small rooms.

Back in SP again, but only for another 3 days. I'll probably hit up some of the clinicas again (mostly Abbobora and Prime). If I still have energy at night, I'll check out scandallo and connection.

[SinfullyKorean]

This is not true. It is only legal for the prostitute to sell herself. It is illegal for anyone else to profit from the sale of sex except the prostitute.

Does that mean these clinicas and prives are illegal?

[Golfinho]

There is no ban in effect to enter Colombia from Brazil. My flight is via Panama City. But if yellow fever vaccine is required (taken at least 10 days prior to departing Brazil), I'm fucked.

I'd advise anyone to avoid transiting Panama City. This may be out of date by now, but on a flight last month they were scrutinizing every passenger on the flight from Colombia and pulling people aside and giving them choice of taking a covid test on the spot or being subject to immediate quarantine. They were also doing this on flights from Brazil. The situation of course is changeable. I didn't appreciate the vibe or the attitude; despite the convenient Star Alliance connection which I've used many times, it'll be a long time before I transit PTY again. Their new terminal, BTW, is nothing special; t looks like a Chinese job, minus the rough edges.

[Mr Enternational]

There is no ban in effect to enter Colombia from Brazil. My flight is via Panama City. But if yellow fever vaccine is required (taken at least 10 days prior to departing Brazil), I'm fucked.

There had been a ban for months. When did it end? Okay.. I looked it up. It ended May 12.

https://www.eltiempo.com/amp/politic...-brasil-588224

[Mr Enternational]

What is the best time of day for a first timer to visit VM and what is the preferred method of transportation.

Best to go about 7 pm. The freaks come out at night. I have never had a problem getting an Uber there from downtown. If I am coming from Copacabana then I always take the bus.

[Vagabundo1]

I love me some redhead (ruiva).

So do the brothers I know.

It is a natural thing.

I once had a red head I was engaged to say we Irish girls with red hair are the lost tribe of Africa.

I don't want to get all anti colorist, but there is some truth.

She also said, I could play sports as well as black girls.

I won't attempt to analyze, for risk of offending everyone.

I do report, I found me a ruiva, and I picked her over even my faves. Negra and mulata.

So vagabundo mongers into centro via the 309 bus.

He buys a few sim chips at central.

TIAvoyage suggests this via zap.

ISG Tiavoyage25: Also I thought of a good side business idea for you. Are you familiar with the woodman tour in Bogota?

ISG Tiavoyage25: he takes visitors on tours around Santa Fe. Charges a small amount and the tours are a fan favorite on ISG. You could do the same with Centro, darkside termas, etc. You may even be able to get a kickback from the owners of the places for bringing them consistent business.

My reaction is that I generally am a solo sperto spartan monger now. It is safer. But I will patrol with high quality people, you can PM me, and we can chat.

Now, vagabundo will suggest this on the cyber monger front.

If you are sitting at home, you should get a Brazilian number ASAP, and that can be done via a chat. That means you can register a zap number from outside Brazil, and I could or any monger in Brazil could help. If that eludes your comprehension, we had a saying, I can't fix stupid and I am not IT.

So vagabundo mongers over to buy some PPE.

This includes blending in, and again, there are places to buy local cloths.

Vagabundo was going over to give a non pro her umbrella back at her office.

But, you know what.

Vagabundo finds himself at RB156.

Now, as far as prives go, Bel Prazer and the sister prives are top shelf. Yes there are tier 1 prives. Again, see GPA.

Bel Prazer is RB185/21st floor.

OK, if you are a newbie, you must, must, must calibrate your dick to the cost per fuck by prives for 3 days on a 30 day trip (you should always aim for a month, if you can't at least a week, if not, just pick one city and try for a week).

The talent at Bel Prazer is superb. Vagabundo will be back. There is talent there he had been doing, and he needs to get those hips, those lips, that bunda back into the mix. Small pool of real spys in this fight club, some from 2017, and they rotate through tier 1 termas, like 4 x4, especially in the winter of the southern hemisphere.

But BP was fully occupied at 15 h50.

Vagabundo doesn't like the security system at RB156, which is not in place at RB185, nor at TDM33.

VB goes up to a prive where said Ruiva is.

Another one shot, one kill.

VB pays 50 are for the sex, 20 minutes. DFK, BBBJ, covered cavalo (her riding), then frango assado, or what some here call missionary anal, but without the anal. Frango assado is putting a pillow under her ass in mish, pushing her nice pink pussy up. Oh, that was after 69 for the BBBJ. Finish in doggy. Got the real, personal number, which was the key.

Gave her a 20 tip.

Talked dirty about her dominating another girl, having her put on a strap on and fucking some of the other usual suspects, the negras or mulatas. I think actually a red head with a strap on fucking a mulata gets vagabundo's nads pumping.

The beauty of Rio is that is all entirely possible for less than 50 USD, or at most 100.

Oh, Rio, te amo.