Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Lalabo]

Awesome report! Thanks for the info. I'll make good use of it. Sounds like Scandallo is very hit or miss. Did you not check out Abbobora or Prime in SP? I've bumped up T65 and Solarium up on my list. Centaurus down to bottom.

I always checkout Prime when I am in Moemo, SP. I visited it on 22,29 and 30 of May and sessioned during each of those visits. Prime always had decent / good looking girls so I never had to walk past it to go to Abbobora. All the girls I have session at Prime provided great service and the place is a fantastic value.

300-400 USD (one way OR round trip) doesn't sound right. Maybe it was right around that time (5/22) that flights were super expensive. I remember I was looking at flights a couple weeks ago and it went up a lot. But not to $300-400, especially one way. This weekend, OW flights on Sat are $72 and Sun are $50. Much cheaper if you're booking a month in advance. But these prices seem to fluctuate a lot.

$25 RT: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...orts&p=2557221#post2557221.

Lalabo probably means the time to get to the airport (bus station's probably closer), the time you got to wait at the airport (probably 1. 5 hrs before flight) and travel time. 30 min to airport, 1. 5 hrs waiting, 1 HR flight is 3 hrs.

Yes, it was around 5/20 when fares shot up crazy. And yes, my math of 3 hours included all that except time spent getting to airport which varies person to person.

[Lalabo]

Air travel between Sao Paulo and Rio is 50 minutes (not 3 hours) and you can buy a ticket as low as 150 reais beforehand. On April 21 I bought one for May 6 and it was $31.88

50 minutes is flight time which doesn't include taxiing time in both airports. I don't think you can get to airport at the last minute before departure and expect to be onboard.

You have to be at the airport in advance to check your bag in, go through security and to complete whatever other process airport might have. In USA, it is recommended to arrive at least 1. 5 hours before departure and that time is increased to 2 hours because of covid. I understand you could get to airport 45 minutes or less before departure and still catch the plane but that depends on how busy the airport is at that particular time. You could get to the airport less than 30 min before departure if the airport is very small with only few departures and landings a day, like Islay, Scotland for example. Having never flown from CGH I personally would go there way in advance so I could check my bag and get through the security even if there are long lines. I would have gone to CGH at least 1 to 1. 5 hours before departure and I add about 30 minutes at destination for deplaning and picking up bags (yes, at smaller airports you get your bags quicker). If you add all of that and taxiing times, you would get 2. 5 to 3 hours.

I have not included the time it take one to get to airport or bus station because that varies depending on where ones starting point is (home / hotel etc.).

About fares.

Ideally, I should have booked refundable ticket way in advance which would have been way cheaper than paying $300+ at the last minute but unfortunately I didn't. Because of COVID test (PCR for travelling to Brazil taken with in 72 hours of departure) requirement there is no certainty of making the flight up until a day before departure, by that time the fares have skyrocket to $400+ especially on 5/20 and 5/21.

Take a look at the screen shot of fares for travelling in a day or 2. As I said the fares skyrocket for some reason during 20th or May for immediate travel.

Bus is a viable and cheaper option if anyone gets into the situation I got in.

[Vagabundo1]

I think I will hit solarium and 65 again.

Thanks for a good report.

I flew into SP on Saturday (5/22) and next day took a bus to get to Rio. Why bus? I made a mistake of not booking flight in advance to get cheaper fare as I wasn't certain that I would make the trip. The flights were very expensive; the fare were around 300 US and climbed over 400 US close to my travel date. I didn't want to pay those high prices so I booked a bed on a 1001 bus for 130 BR and got to Rio in 6 hours (double the air travel). I think bus is a good option to travel between SP and Rio and I plan to use it in future.

I initially planned 2 nights but extended it by 4 nights after my disappointing visit to Scandallo on Saturday. I have visited 5 termas and liked Solarium the most because it had most consistently good looking girls during all my visits. I was able to use my free time more effectively in Rio than in SP by going to various beaches and visited popular tourist spots. I like Rio and I plan to visit soon..

[The Cane]

Centaurus:

My fifth terma. I went to the club at 7:30 pm on Friday expecting lots of girls and men to be there. Entrance is 140 BR. Unlike other termas the entrance has to be prepaid here. This club has the newest and nicest facilities of all the termas I had visited. It also has the biggest lounge. There were about 10+ girls with couple of good looking ones. I was the only man in there. Couple of girls came an talk to be but I wasn't interested in them. It was hard to get rid of them. I left the club and went to Solarium after drinking a free beer that was included with entrance.

It was strange to see this club had no customers on Friday night situated in a prime location with best facilities. It is a shame they ruined their reputation being greedy and treating customers like ATM machines. This may be one of those clubs that totally relies on tourists and probably waiting for pandemic to end.

Nice report Lalabo! Anybody who read my report from the last time I was at Centaurus will know that I had the exact same experience as you. I was the only customer on a Friday or Saturday night, with maybe about 15 or so girls present. What a great fall off from where Centaurus used to be! And that was in September 2019 before we got hit with the pandemic wave. I think it was the monger who goes by "VilaMimosa" who said "the thrill is gone".

Yes, lots of tourists used to go to Centaurus, including Justin Bieber LOL! But, plenty of well-heeled Brazilians would visit the place as well. The pics are of "Polly" from better times. I really wanted to bugger that pretty branca in the butt hole, but she talked so damn much that she broke my concentration! I pushed her ass cheeks together like a giant hot dog bun and rubbed my weiner off in between her cheeks until I spermed inside of her crack.

[Mr Enternational]

Lalabo probably means the time to get to the airport (bus station's probably closer), the time you got to wait at the airport (probably 1. 5 hrs before flight) and travel time. 30 min to airport, 1. 5 hrs waiting, 1 HR flight is 3 hrs.

Brazil is not the USA. If you check in online, you can get to the airport 20 minutes before the flight and make it through security on time.

[SinfullyKorean]

I flew into SP on Saturday (5/22) and next day took a bus to get to Rio. Why bus? I made a mistake of not booking flight in advance to get cheaper fare as I wasn't certain that I would make the trip. The flights were very expensive; the fare were around 300 US and climbed over 400 US close to my travel date. I didn't want to pay those high prices so I booked a bed on a 1001 bus for 130 BR and got to Rio in 6 hours (double the air travel). I think bus is a good option to travel between SP and Rio and I plan to use it in future.

Awesome report! Thanks for the info. I'll make good use of it. Sounds like Scandallo is very hit or miss. Did you not check out Abbobora or Prime in SP? I've bumped up T65 and Solarium up on my list. Centaurus down to bottom.

Air travel between Sao Paulo and Rio is 50 minutes (not 3 hours) and you can buy a ticket as low as 150 reais beforehand. On April 21 I bought one for May 6 and it was $31.88

300-400 USD (one way OR round trip) doesn't sound right. Maybe it was right around that time (5/22) that flights were super expensive. I remember I was looking at flights a couple weeks ago and it went up a lot. But not to $300-400, especially one way. This weekend, OW flights on Sat are $72 and Sun are $50. Much cheaper if you're booking a month in advance. But these prices seem to fluctuate a lot.

$25 RT: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...orts&p=2557221#post2557221.

Lalabo probably means the time to get to the airport (bus station's probably closer), the time you got to wait at the airport (probably 1. 5 hrs before flight) and travel time. 30 min to airport, 1. 5 hrs waiting, 1 HR flight is 3 hrs.

What is VM?

VILA MIMOSA. Red light district of RJ.

[DiverOyster]

If you want women in Rio, go to a Vasco futbol game with the owner of 4 x 4.

The futbol players though, get their girls at VM.

SAC.

What is VM?

[Mr Enternational]

I booked a bed on a 1001 bus for 130 BR and got to Rio in 6 hours (double the air travel). I think bus is a good option to travel between SP and Rio and I plan to use it in future.

Air travel between Sao Paulo and Rio is 50 minutes (not 3 hours) and you can buy a ticket as low as 150 reais beforehand. On April 21 I bought one for May 6 and it was $31.88

[Lalabo]

I flew into SP on Saturday (5/22) and next day took a bus to get to Rio. Why bus? I made a mistake of not booking flight in advance to get cheaper fare as I wasn't certain that I would make the trip. The flights were very expensive; the fare were around 300 US and climbed over 400 US close to my travel date. I didn't want to pay those high prices so I booked a bed on a 1001 bus for 130 BR and got to Rio in 6 hours (double the air travel). I think bus is a good option to travel between SP and Rio and I plan to use it in future.

I initially planned 2 nights but extended it by 4 nights after my disappointing visit to Scandallo on Saturday. I have visited 5 termas and liked Solarium the most because it had most consistently good looking girls during all my visits. I was able to use my free time more effectively in Rio than in SP by going to various beaches and visited popular tourist spots. I like Rio and I plan to visit soon.

4 x4:

My first terma. Entry fee was 50 BR. Lineup was bad on Monday with 15+ girls, none of them good looking, and I left after spending half hour or so.

My next visit was on Wednesday and the lineup was much better. I sessioned with Lorena, a 22 yo girl with tight body with amazing deepthroating skills. She voluntarily deepthroated a lot which I liked. I came back on Thursday but left quickly as I didn't see any new girls.

Solarium:

My second terma and the best. This may be the smallest of the termas that I have visited but it had the consistently best looking girls. I have it a total of 4 times: on Monday after visiting 4 x4, Tuesday, Thrusday and Friday. Entry is 120 BR + aprox 500 BR for girl and room. Lineup was great with 20+ girls on the days I have visited and most of them were young and petite. I sessioned 4 girls and all of them were great. One of the girls did anal, another one did anal and CIM, and another did CIM. Hands down the best terma for me this trip.

Monte Carlo:

My third terma and the worst. I visited it on Tuesday at around 5:30 pm. They had about 10 girls and not even one decent looking one. There was not much to do so I used sauna for an half hour and left the club within an hour. 120 BR entrance fee for the lineup they had felt like highway robbery.

Terma 65:

My fourth terma. One of the guys I met in Solarium recommended visiting this terma. Definitely worth checking out if you are in the area visiting other termas like 4 x4. I visited it twice, first visit was on Wednesday and then on Thursday. Entrance is 70 BR and 235 BR for girl for half hour.

On Wednesday I entered the club at around 8 pm and it was packed with 50+ girls and lot of men. Everyone was dancing to the earsplittingly loud music. For a moment I thought I was in a dance club. I grabbed a drink and started looking for hotties but found none. All of them were with these 2 groups of guys with bottle service on their tables. One hottie in particular was very gorgeous with amazing Brazilian butt. In case any of you were there on that night, she wore a tight cheetah print skirt (I will refer her as cheetah girl). I knew the cheetah girl and other hotties are not going to let go by the 2 group. Rest of the girls in the club seemed to be more focused on dancing, drinking and having a good time rather than getting with men. As I was pondering my options, this one guy started booty shaking / popping dance (lets call him booty popper) in front the table I was sitting at. I have seen girls dance like that but never seen an guy do it. I guess that's his kink. I admit he danced way better than lot of girls. To add to the craziness, 2 young guys walked in to the club way overdressed in suits as if they were interviewing at one of the big wallstreet banks. In fact, the girl sitting next to me did interview them. She started with an easy question. Are you good with numbers? Both answered 'yes' confidently. Next she asked, how many parking spots she has for their wangs? She warned them that is a trick question but they ignored. Two, both answered in unison. She smiled and told them to do research on internets and return to the club with correct answer next day. I really hope they found the answer. LOL. My eavesdropping on the interview was interrupted by the booty popper. This time he brought a girl and both did the booty popping dance, this time more vigorously. It felt like he was daring me but I wasn't falling for that. I screamed, no way Jose but music was so loud no one heard me. Anyway, once it was clear that none of the hotties going to be released by those 2 groups I picked one of the better looking leftovers and ended the night happy.

I really enjoyed my first visit even tough I didn't get the opportunity to bang some of the hotties that were present. This terma had the most girls and different vibe than other termas I have visited. I am not sure why this club is not talked about more in this thread.

I have visited the club on Thursday hoping to catch some of the hotties I saw the previous day especially the cheetah girl. Unfortunately most of them didn't make an appearance. I saw couple of them but they were already snatched by a group with bottle service, obviously. It is very clear one needs a bottle service to attract hotties in this terma. Next time I visit this club I plan to order an expensive bottle service to lure them to me. I know, initially it would look weird, strange and silly to have one person with bottle service, but who cares as long as you lure the hotties. Based on what I have observed in this terma, hotties love booze and they go to whoever provides lots of it and expensive the better. Unfortunately, my plan rollout has to wait until next trip.

Centaurus:

My fifth terma. I went to the club at 7:30 pm on Friday expecting lots of girls and men to be there. Entrance is 140 BR. Unlike other termas the entrance has to be prepaid here. This club has the newest and nicest facilities of all the termas I had visited. It also has the biggest lounge. There were about 10+ girls with couple of good looking ones. I was the only man in there. Couple of girls came an talk to be but I wasn't interested in them. It was hard to get rid of them. I left the club and went to Solarium after drinking a free beer that was included with entrance.

It was strange to see this club had no customers on Friday night situated in a prime location with best facilities. It is a shame they ruined their reputation being greedy and treating customers like ATM machines. This may be one of those clubs that totally relies on tourists and probably waiting for pandemic to end.

Termas vs FKKs:

Termas are very similar to German / European FKKs in concept but at a much smaller in size and scale. Termas have all the FKK elements like girls, bar and sauna except a restaurant. In termas, you have the option of staying in your street cloths or wear a robe whereas in FKKs you have an option of wearing a robe or towel. In FKKs, entrance usually include food and soft drinks and in some cases alcohol. In termas, you have to pay for all the drinks.

Additional thoughts:

Terma lounges are very small (except Centaurus) and get crowded very quickly. Each terma has a set price for girls that covers all the services provided including anal, CIM or whatever else. There is no concept of extras like you have in SP boetes and clinicas, or FKKs, or lots other places. Not all girls provide extras so you better discuss prior to the session. 3 of the 6 girls I sessioned did anal and 2 did CIM.

[Yossarian]

Yes, without a doubt speaking the local lingo is a huge asset. Google translate is a remarkable innovation, but it is vastly inferior to being able to carry on a spontaneous conversation with a girl.

There are other little thought experiments we can play that come up with interesting results like:

A) imagine 2 American customers with similar looks, personalities, each able to speak Portuguese fluently, and each paying the same amount. Customer #1 can turn a girl on, and it takes him 45 minutes to reach orgasm. Customer #2 cums in under 3 minutes. Which customer do working girls prefer? It depends on the girl, but I imagine a lot of girls might prefer Customer #2. Does that surprise anyone?

B) imagine 2 American customers with similar looks, personalities, each able to speak Portuguese fluently, and each paying the same amount meet a girl for the first time in a Terma or bar. Customer #1 tells the girl he is an expat living and working in RJ. Customer #2 tells the girl he is a tourist who just arrived, and he is planning to spend 2 weeks in RJ. Which type of customer do working girls prefer. Again, the answer depends on the girl. Some girls will prefer the tourist because they think he will pay more. Some girls will prefer the expat because they see him as a possible long-term customer. It all depends.

So, what's my point? Well, nothing really except to say all kinds of people come to the P4P marketplace and no two people are the same. So, when 2 people come to a private arrangement it's between them and sometimes them and the bordello and it does not matter what anyone else thinks. Do what you like.

Well said Natty Bumpo. There is no one set way it always plays out. Got to remember, although we do have general rules of thumb here in the hobby, they are just that. General rules. The hobby, as are all human interactions, dynamic and can change depending on the participants and the situation.

[Vagabundo1]

If you want women in Rio, go to a Vasco futbol game with the owner of 4 x 4.

The futbol players though, get their girls at VM.

SAC.

[Vagabundo1]

Perola Branca, Ave de pepe 400, Barra.

Foolish consistencies are the hobgoblins of little minds.

Perola Branca, and most of Barra is white girls.

Mandingoblack who gets paid to fuck on film ended up staying here at a KSPortal flat in Barra posto 1 near Olegario Maciel and Perola Branca.

Maybe I shoulda had more of the local talent primed for Mr E.

I will next time, at the Hotel California, in the California of Rio- Barra the Tijuca.

Plus, I was a bit concerned with Senhor Sinfully Korean due to his violatioon of forum rules (see his conversation with Sperto our expert on the SP thread), but he took those down, and in any case, I am not phobic of any LGBTQ+. I mean, I am strait up a fan of Caligula.

Plus I was off my meds, but my doctor with medical ganja has arrived, and I am serving a higher power again.

May we now praise famous men.

[The Cane]

Based on your previous reply and many others' recommendations, I booked the Astoria Palace. But I will try and hit up Perola Negra during my short stay. I do have one question about it. Perola Negra translates to black pearl. Does this place mostly host dark skinned garotas?

The last time I was at Perola Negra (its been awhile), I don't recall there being any dark-skinned girls in the house. Of course, the nature of a lineup can change drastically in even a relatively short period of time. I went with a branca going by "Daniela". Fucked her in the butt, and it was good too. Cored that carioca cornhole out!

http://perolanegraclub.com.br/

[SinfullyKorean]

I recommend you stay in Copa.

With 4 days, stay at IBIS and do Perola Negra, on Metro at Jardim Oceanico.

PN is in the shadow of IBIS, within rifle range, so you can easily get the girls to your room at IBIS from Perola Negra.

Ksportal (google it) has 50 r per noite lux suites, with all the amenities.

It is true Transamerica is a 3 d rate run down shit motel, but it is priced for aspiring working girls, and some of the landlords and administrators, I am sure will accept payment with a girls holes, as always.

Based on your previous reply and many others' recommendations, I booked the Astoria Palace. But I will try and hit up Perola Negra during my short stay. I do have one question about it. Perola Negra translates to black pearl. Does this place mostly host dark skinned garotas?

[TheDerilious]

I think you have not considered efficiency, supply and demand. You are also missing it goes both ways because not only the demand increases, there are more supply as well. One example is Medellin FB scene. The technology opens up a new supply that was not available before. Also China cracked down on prostitutions which reduced the supply in Asia significantly and that caused the price to go up elsewhere.

Sure, that is the miracle of technology that it has opened up many more destinations for the hobby. Supply has definitely increased all over the world and it seems like there is still a dearth of options considering how popular porn and online chat / videos are. The biggest issue lies in the fact that sex tourism is still tourism; people are expecting to pay money, save up for the trip, and don't feel the need to haggle over 5 USD as long as they feel they are getting decent prices. Longer term expats are effectively doing this at a longer time scale so they can spend the time searching for better prices but make no mistake that they are not haggling over the last 10 reais either when it comes down to it. They have the advantage of being able to hit up a few of the cheaper places looking for the good stuff, while that might be considered a bit of a waste of time for shorter term visitors who don't want to waste time jockeying up and down elevators in random buildings all day. I do think it is interesting that there appears to be a fine line on how penny pinching is perceived; in Thailand, our fellow Indian mongers are often looked down upon for these habits, yet mongers also can't spend too much without getting called market busters. It's a tough line, that's for sure.

I wonder how the rise of digital nomads in the coming decade or two will change that. Most tech companies are never going back to full-time in-office work so we will see a new generation of the global wealthy descend upon these cities and town for longer stretches as they seek to "experience" the world. It will be different because the majority of longer-term expats are usually retirees or older men who live on fixed incomes or have to budget their reserves. Now, you are going to see much larger influxes of younger men who will be making more than the retirees, will be much more willing to shell out, and have fewer budget restrictions. Hell, I look back and shudder at what I would have been spending had I been able to work remote in a place like Rio when I was 24 for a six months or a year.

A small note on the side; prostitution is huge in mainland China and very easy to find for ethnic Chinese. Agencies discretely but openly advertise on WeChat. But it is really difficult for any non-Chinese foreigner. You get the blatant racism of Japan's scene combined with the underground, anti-western attitudes of China which make it really hard to monger unless you flash extra cash to make the mama-sans look the other way. Even then, you are getting starfish'd for your trouble or picking the bottom of the barrel. Let's just say that my white friends got to learn what it's like to be forced to eat in the back of the restaurant. My Chinese friends got a special laugh out it.