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  1. #29318
    Quote Originally Posted by KyivBound1986  [View Original Post]
    Excuse the newbie question but is VM worth the visit? I've never gone before due to perceived safety issues.
    I'm a foreigner and went there by myself no problem however I go to alot of brothals around the world so it can be quite scary your first time no matter where you go. Go and order a uber and have the local guy join you for a beer to show you around. From what I seen its just one street with bars on each side and then you go down each little alley way where there are the little bars. As long as you know the prices just walk up to a girl and ask and or use google translate and then your in. You do it right there on premise. Let me know if you have any questions.

  2. #29317
    Excuse the newbie question but is VM worth the visit? I've never gone before due to perceived safety issues.

  3. #29316
    Quote Originally Posted by TjBrazil  [View Original Post]
    I have to admit my last trip there wasn't great for quality. Luckily I had a couple regulars to call. Monte Carlo didn't have one good chick.
    I agree. I have been to Rio four times this year and have noticed the quality of the girls at 4 x4 decrease steadily. Both terms of looks and service. My next trip in February has me thinking of just resting at night and save all of my energy for my weekend in SP.

  4. #29315
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  5. #29314
    Quote Originally Posted by Cool  [View Original Post]
    I don't think RJ is the spot you can spend a week and knock off 20 hotties in the week like in the past at the sub R400 price point. Thursday and Friday night at 4 x4 I only saw 5 chicks I would bang at 4 x4. To be interested in only 15% of the talent is not good.
    My man, you hit the nail on the head with that astute analyses of the current GP quality (or lack of) in RJ. I was in Rio for 10 days and by the 5th day I was ready to leave. I was lucky to find a gem in a prive that was on par with the girls in the Sao Paulo clinicas. At 4 x4, 50 girls and only 3 I would bang. These 3 girls you can easy find similar types in SP and bang them for less than half the price. At Mosaico, 20 girls and none were bangable. Don't think I'll ever return to Rio any time soon. I rather go to a one of the other 26 estados and hit on civilians.

    I migrated to SP 5 years ago and never looked back since then. I suggest you guys do the same as well. It's the best of decision one can make.

  6. #29313
    I hate copa. Avoid.

    I just finished a session at Paris, and I would again re iterate the usual Bubba Boy approach of getting numbers and never sessioning at a terma, unless you get a girl who will do it bare.

    I did a half hour with a pretty negra, but I didn't really do enough interview, and she did the usual time wasters. I did get her number. I should have just done a prive girl in the afternoon for 180 r instead of 250 for the half at Paris.

    Since I have been behind a week in the week in baseball, last Saturday or so, I did a session at Perola Negra with a milfish 35 year old who gave it to me bare. That was my 4th fuck of the day. I had done a regular overnight pernoite in the morning that Saturday for pop 1. Then at the prive in centro with Jimmy Boy my best wingman I found a passista (dancer), and did a hour another two pops, BBFS. Then, later that night at Perola Negra with, oh, who was it, Michael Samuel, and World Jockey. We sat outside, I tipped a certain morena 20 reais to let me shove my mini vibe up against her clit (grelo), which was fun. They really should be paying me as MichaelSamuel went up with that lass, that ass, but Vagabundo, looking for bare naked vagina held out, and he sat down with a miflish 35 year old. But 35 year olds need love, and at my advanced age of 96, it is a fine thing to ram my dick home into a new pussy at 22 h, well that was after we three musketeers went to Casurina for dinner then did a foot patrol through the best 'hood in Rio along Glauco Gil, offset by a block into some nice housing a good spot to end up, and then to Paris, where we were a bit early at 21 h or so. But by midnight or so we were in Perola, and said 35 ish MILF sat outside, alone, and Vagabundo vagabundo'ed up to her, flashed his test, asked the essential question, vc faz programa sem camisinha por cashina. And she nodded yes, she aske for an hour, but she knew she needed the cash, and a hoar with a pussy between her legs who needs rent on her 1200 r a month flat in Recreio is a randy dick sucking and needy fucking hoar indeed. Her pussy was fleshy, and as I sank my flesh sword into her most intimate part, she said, I have no birth control, to which I said something romantic like, vc gosta meu piroca no seu buceta, vc quer um suruba com pretos (do you want to get gangbanged by black guys? Vou levar vc no um praia nudismo (I will take you to a nude beach), and pass you around like the dick sucking hoar that you know you are. To which she said, yes shoot your sperm deep into my fertile womb because I am just out of a marraige of 14 years. Where do you live, she may have asked. And I told her posto 8. She said, her son lives in posto 6. Somewhere after 15 minutes of fucking in a 40 minute program, bare, I pulled out, and shot my precious bodily fluids over her stomach, which was hard, lean, and sexy as fuck on a slightly older but still hot woman.

    Now in contrast to that good fuck, tonights fuck with 23 year old Cris a Negra, a hot as fuck negra, was well, let's just say, 5 minutes she goes out and fucks around, then takes a piss after giving a blow job. And I lose my wood while she is pissing, then when I finally fuck her from behind with a condom on, she plays the game of not bending over, and pushes back, and makes me back up, at which point I lose my wood again because of the fucking condom, then she blows me, puts the condom on, and gets on top and fucks finally for maybe a few minutes. Well played you jaded negra terma hoar. Just goes to show, I fucked up. I did not interview her enough and I had a lousy session. But it may well have been that I spent the whole day packing to move from the 6th to the 15 h floor, then my landlord lady says, we could not get the king mattress up to the 15 h floor do you want to wait to Monday, so of course I want the new mattress, so I wait. So I was packing and getting ready to move, getting dehydrated whereas my usual sabbath -- shabbatt shalom -- is to go fuck my regular overnight girl who did not come as her flake rate is 50% and I did not go do a prive run. Termas generally suck for sex. Just get numbers at termas. I have only fucked two times at Paris, and both times, it has sucked. The first time 2 years ago was a certain, slinkly, long legged, very sexy Melissa, who is still there, and who one and after tonight maybe two wingmen have gone up with. When I fucked Melissa in the terma, she was so drunk she practically puked on my dick, and of course, she did not do it bare, nor did she do it bare when I did overnight with her. She has a kid. She lives in Guaratiba or sepetiba. She suggested doing it with a female condom, whatever that is. I told her I would overnight with her again if we did it bare, but she declined, and so I have ignored her when I go in as far as sessioning goes. Pretty much same story with Cris tonight. Hot girl, but jaded, at 23 she has been there 3 years, and these are dog years.

    The sweet spot for me is Prive girls. That passista was a great overnight, long legged, a dancer, we fucked bare the first time we met in the prive, and back at my place. Need more like her, and will go get them from the centro prives, and even from VM.

    Oh, yeah speaking of VM, so last week, I am at perola negra. A VM girl that I had been fucking bareback overnight for 400 or maybe even 300, multiple pops, all night, shows up now at perola and now she won't do it bare. Much as I like some of the termas, I hate them too because they fuck up the good deal I had with girls when I found them at VM.

    And so it goes.

    I live in a world that alludes to both Marquez and Vonnegut -- to Latin America, to South America, in eternal war between liberal and conservative, with women that dance around in magical realism, and spread their legs, so yes, even though Cris totally worked me, that 3 minutes up her hot negra snatch was a great thing. Oh, what a nice pussy. Even though it is the only pussy I fucked today, on any given Saturday, I fuck three pussies, 4 times, all bare, and on any given weekday, my eyes are bloodshot and red from all the baby oil which gets in my eyes from burying my face in the pussy, ass, and boobs of a morena / mulata on the top floor of some high rise that looks out over guanabarra bay, where together we spend and hour, and I pop twice in an hour, and fuck her four times, DFK, an extra 50 for anal with a girl who could be. Well, my dream girl.

    So, again, to answer your question, I hate mabs.

    I did meet a hot germanic girl there a few weeks back, and was going to session with her at some ISG members place in copa where he had heroically invited me to bring my best girls, but the 3 other travle buddies he was with had actually booked the apartment through one of their wives, and the owner called the wife and retroactively banned guests, and they did not want to actually session anyway as they wanted me to show up on a Sunday and give them all my best girls as they clearly could not find and or pull good quality girls out of mabs themselves, so, again, I'm not a pimp, but I am glad to head out with quality wingmen, you know who you are. Along the list of don't add these: don't come to rio on your first trip and drink hard liquor becaue you will get sick from dehydration predictably, and be miserable; don't book a mongering apartment through your wife (duh); don't expect other ISG members to automatically give you the numbers of their best girls, especially if you don't really take care of your own appearance, etc.

    So, I do go to Perola Negra tonight. Former VM girl now big ***** around the big terma blows me off when I first get into the club, but then she follows me out to the lounge outside and sits next to me with her friends, playing some kind of game. But I ignroe her, and get her friend's numbers right in front of her, and go through my usual interview, to include will you let me fuck your nice little pussy bare, here's my test.

    So the game continues. By the time you read this if it is Monday, Vagabundo will be on the 15th floor overlooking the atlantic from a nice offset of 300 meters, with a view of Pedra the Gavea, and will be working for overnights with only the best prive girls, at 300 r for overnight, 500 r for the best, maybe, maybe 700 r for some prive girl who wins the vagabundo lottery, if and only if she gives to to me bare, otherwise I will just sodomize her ass, and have her boobs and ass impregnate my eyes with baby oil until my eyes are red with ecstatic baby oil ness in happiness at sucking on her big morena titties, and eating out her taint betwen her hot as fuck pussy and her well opened yet still tight and appealing asshole, before I slide my cock between her cheeks and use 5 of 6 skyn condoms in a pack to again violate her from behind while she sits on her belly, offering me that perfect ass. I mean, that's really a better way to spend 200 reais than to be rushed through 30 minutes where the hoar plays games to kill 10 minutes.

    Yes, the play is to live in barra and to import your pussy from centro.

    And as for copa, just avoid it, and leave it to the swarm attacking trans prostitutes who try to pick your pockets.

    Quote Originally Posted by TjBrazil  [View Original Post]
    What's your opinion on mabs. Dolce vita and Casablanca.

  7. #29312
    Quote Originally Posted by KyivBound1986  [View Original Post]
    I will be in Rio next month. I have been there a few times. Is Mabs still the only in your face restaurant for working girls? Is Dolce Vita any use these days, the club a short walk from Mabs.

    Pity a few of the places closed in recent years. I am not sure if Casablanca is still open as I always liked it, in Copacabana. I used to love boite barbarela but know its closed a few years now. I love Brazil and rio so much, no place like it. Can't wait to get back.
    Dolce mabs and Casablanca are all still open.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cool  [View Original Post]
    IAccidentally posted this on Thai board. It's late.
    LOL I'm sure the nana plaza crew was quick to google maps search this new spot in BKK called perola LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaman  [View Original Post]
    one girl refused to go to the room, also saying that she did not understood anything but I guees she just wanted to continue party with locals.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cool  [View Original Post]
    I struck out at 4 x4 with a raven haired 20 year old at 4 x4. She declined my drink offer and there was a language barrier.
    Two reports of this from 4 x4 on the on the same page. Wonder if its the same girl.

  8. #29311

    Brief Perlota Negra review

    I dig this spot even though the cast didn't blow me away with their beauty. Not too much smoking and a chill spot with moderately priced drinks to kill time. About a dozen ladies and half dozen men. I went 23:00. I think there was a $7 cover charge. Like jockey said girls will try to get you to do a HR and they can steer you to more expensive rooms and packages. I think programs cost more here than 4 x 4 but Negra has a cheaper cover charge. Their drinks cost more than Mosaico. I liked the ocean front scenery and other establishments in the area. Accidentally posted this on Thai board. It's late.

  9. #29310

    Mabs

    I will be in Rio next month. I have been there a few times. Is Mabs still the only in your face restaurant for working girls? Is Dolce Vita any use these days, the club a short walk from Mabs.

    Pity a few of the places closed in recent years. I am not sure if Casablanca is still open as I always liked it, in Copacabana. I used to love boite barbarela but know its closed a few years now. I love Brazil and rio so much, no place like it. Can't wait to get back.

  10. #29309

    Current Situation Boots on the ground sub R400 establishments

    I don't think RJ is the spot you can spend a week and knock off 20 hotties in the week like in the past at the sub R400 price point. Thursday and Friday night at 4 x4 I only saw 5 chicks I would bang at 4 x4. To be interested in only 15% of the talent is not good. I went to Eden Spa Sala 401 at 16:40 and they only had 1 available girl. She was tall slim and had a pretty face and of course bad tattoos. Session was satisfactory. R150 I used all of my time. Price was right so I couldn't complain. I saw the occupied girl on the way to the shower and she was a thicker girl who would rate a 6. What are the Sunday options for RJ?

  11. #29308
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaman  [View Original Post]
    I am glad I did not went to Mosaico, thanks for the information.

    I think quality in RJ is really poor, I went to Solarium on Thursday, it was late like 10 and they were going to close, I think there were more men than women and the quality of the girls was really below 6, I left just having to pay entrance fee of 150 Rs. Then I went to 4 x4 a little better, but not too much, as you said below 7, a little more girls, and the end I went with a slime young girl, something like Maria, not sure, also one girl refused to go to the room, also saying that she did not understood anything but I guees she just wanted to continue party with locals. So this place is so so, but not good really. Also went to Paris Cafe, also nothting good there I just left paying the cover I think it was like 50 Rs plus drinks, very bad quality in Rio, compared to Sao Paulo. So wwon't return to Solarium, nor Paris Cafe, 4 x4 maybe.
    I have to admit my last trip there wasn't great for quality. Luckily I had a couple regulars to call. Monte Carlo didn't have one good chick.

  12. #29307

    Just arrived in Rio. Looking for a local mongor to meet up with

    After a long 32 hour flight I got in late evening yesterday. Did some food shopping and then wasted no time. Got in my uber around 10:30 pm and strolled through villa mimosa for the first time. Pretty decent good amount of girls and then drove around looking for street girls in that area. Hit about 2 to 3 blocks nearby went around the roundabout and then headed on over to copacabana wanted to see what the street girls looked like on atlantico so I got there and the uber dropped me off. I went on foot passed Bar Mabs (LOL ifs funny to see the working girls literraly stand all around the tent for them to get choosen by guys inside the tent area but walked on down the whole strip seen some decent girls but nothing I was ready for as I barely know the area I was just scouting it out so get a feel of everything. So around 1230/1 am things started to get dry there was a huge concentration of at least 20 girls in and around mabs area by that time I was ready to leave but I did see some nice stunners I jumped back into my taxi and headed back to villa mimosa. Picked up a cutie near that area 100 and 50 for room and did the deed.

    Since I'm new to the area wanted to know if there are any fellow local mongers that would be interested in meeting up. I like expoloring street girls and I know theres so many locations I want to see (west zone, centro, copa, and maybe outside of the city. I'm down. Send me a PM as I'm here for a few weeks. Excited to be here!

  13. #29306

    Good to know

    Quote Originally Posted by Cool  [View Original Post]
    I struck out at 4 x4 with a raven haired 20 year old at 4 x4. She declined my drink offer and there was a language barrier. Figured I would check out Mosaico since I wasn't too far away and some vets recommended it. Got there before midnight. The 5 girls sitting on the outside watched me hard since they knew I was new. Bought the first girl that approached an expensive drink. This place is cheaper than 4 x4. Girls are R180. After declining to go to the room with her or her friend they try to milk me for more expensive drinks but I settled my bill and left. The girls probably were bangable 10 years ago and the bad tattoos. The 10 girls working before midnight were marginally better than trash prices. I probably could've found a diamond in the rough in VM. I wouldn't consider anyone in the lineup a 7. I'm starting to figure quality fell off in RJ even though I have not been high roller establishments. Hopefully tomorrow is better.
    I am glad I did not went to Mosaico, thanks for the information.

    I think quality in RJ is really poor, I went to Solarium on Thursday, it was late like 10 and they were going to close, I think there were more men than women and the quality of the girls was really below 6, I left just having to pay entrance fee of 150 Rs. Then I went to 4 x4 a little better, but not too much, as you said below 7, a little more girls, and the end I went with a slime young girl, something like Maria, not sure, also one girl refused to go to the room, also saying that she did not understood anything but I guees she just wanted to continue party with locals. So this place is so so, but not good really. Also went to Paris Cafe, also nothting good there I just left paying the cover I think it was like 50 Rs plus drinks, very bad quality in Rio, compared to Sao Paulo. So wwon't return to Solarium, nor Paris Cafe, 4 x4 maybe.

  14. #29305

    Mosaico

    I struck out at 4 x4 with a raven haired 20 year old at 4 x4. She declined my drink offer and there was a language barrier. Figured I would check out Mosaico since I wasn't too far away and some vets recommended it. Got there before midnight. The 5 girls sitting on the outside watched me hard since they knew I was new. Bought the first girl that approached an expensive drink. This place is cheaper than 4 x4. Girls are R180. After declining to go to the room with her or her friend they try to milk me for more expensive drinks but I settled my bill and left. The girls probably were bangable 10 years ago and the bad tattoos. The 10 girls working before midnight were marginally better than trash prices. I probably could've found a diamond in the rough in VM. I wouldn't consider anyone in the lineup a 7. I'm starting to figure quality fell off in RJ even though I have not been high roller establishments. Hopefully tomorrow is better.

  15. #29304
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    Went this evening about 9:30 to check out the new location of the old Whiskeria 65 at 74 Rua do Quintanda. Entry 60 Real consumable. Beers are between 10 Real and 20 real. Caipirinha is 36 Real. 60 minutes in lower-end suite is 370 Real in cash (390 credit card). Space is about half the size of the former location. Saw 10 girls in the lounge area, might have been a couple more elsewhere, even on what is supposed to be one of the best nights for termas. Maybe 10-12 customers. One girl did a semi-strip tease (only took off bra) while I was there. Girls were typical prive girls. No comparison to 4 x4 in terms of quantity and quality of girls. No need to go back.
    JB. Thanks for the report. I had asked a while back about this terma.

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2857580

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