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  1. #21957

    You don't know what you don't know.

    Hey Group,

    This has been my first trip to Brazil and I want to thank the group for the wealth of knowledge that has been shared on this forum. My home base is Rio, but I'll be traveling other cities while I'm down here. Got out of the USA before the covid lockdowns and curfews began.

    My experience so far have been great. I used barrasVIPS for the P4P. A majority of the girls told me they were staying at Transamerica. All experiences were great. Photoshop was used for one girl to cover up her breast lift scar. It was bad and would not have reached out if I saw the scar on the listing, but she turned out to perform really well. Most were visiting from Sao Paulo. One had a sister with her that was listed on the site as well. All P4 P were at my hotel. I'll be going to their place next time to see Transamerica.

    The ability to speak the language is key here and will help your chances with the semi pros and non pros. Can't stress that enough.

    One side note I wanted to ask. While down in Floripa a few of the girls that I've been with that spoke English said they learned from tourist from Australia that they stayed with for 6 months. Is this common for Aussies to rent Brazilians for that amount of time? If anyone has any info on this and how they arranged this it would be much appreciated.

    Keep the change.

  2. #21956

    Address to buy fireman's gear in Rio

    Address is attached.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabundo1  [View Original Post]
    We military veterans have a term of art, "defense in depth".

    In the military, that would mean you defend a piece of terrain by using all your weapons in mutually supporting (combined arms) plans.

    Some, but not all, elements of my defense in depth are:

    1. Some fitness training. Best to always run away. If someone throws punches, it is good to know how to block them with your hands. Generally, I always try to just use the least force possible to defend..

  3. #21955
    Flamengo is better than a nascar or other shirt that screams, "I am a gringo".

    10. Wear a gopro on a neck lanyard (downside of the neck lanyard is it can be used as a weapon against you). If it looks like a fight coming, turn on the go pro, and record the incident. If there is some assault, make sure you are the victim -- she bit me, here is the blood, etc. Become an actor, watch porta dos fundos. My favorite response to crying working girl is something like "meu esposa e putaria," while feigning mock tears, tossing up water out of water bottle, onto her hair, another sure way to make a hooker run. Or the always funny, "melancia" as we recite the sobre mesa porta dos fundos.

    Quote Originally Posted by SAS40  [View Original Post]
    Once on a dark night in an alley I realized I had to pass a couple of guys "lookin'-up-to to-good". But as I considered it as a sign of weakness to cross the road just in front of them, decided to continue.

    As I approached them saw one wearing Fla shorts (as lots do) and as they won the night before, on their victourious season, I'd throw up a "Bom Jogo Ontem" and a Shaka, just as I went through them. This rodwy-looking confused bunch went quiet for half a sec but then smiled at the wierd gringo, answering the sign.

    Did it save me or not? Who knows, but better safe than sorry.

  4. #21954
    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabundo1  [View Original Post]

    5. I wear Vasco the gama shirts or masks. The goal in defense is to make the criminal pick the next victim. Vasco is the team of the poor criminals generally, and it is not the team that the average tourist picks (flamengo). I don't really care about futbol, but the best girls are vasco, because they are in the jungle, fight or die. The tenets of Brazilian culture are fighting fucking and fubtol.

    .
    Once on a dark night in an alley I realized I had to pass a couple of guys "lookin'-up-to to-good". But as I considered it as a sign of weakness to cross the road just in front of them, decided to continue.

    As I approached them saw one wearing Fla shorts (as lots do) and as they won the night before, on their victourious season, I'd throw up a "Bom Jogo Ontem" and a Shaka, just as I went through them. This rodwy-looking confused bunch went quiet for half a sec but then smiled at the wierd gringo, answering the sign.

    Did it save me or not? Who knows, but better safe than sorry.

  5. #21953

    Security

    We military veterans have a term of art, "defense in depth".

    In the military, that would mean you defend a piece of terrain by using all your weapons in mutually supporting (combined arms) plans.

    Some, but not all, elements of my defense in depth are:

    1. Some fitness training. Best to always run away. If someone throws punches, it is good to know how to block them with your hands. Generally, I always try to just use the least force possible to defend.

    2. Buddy system. My best wingmen from ISG have martial arts training to some degree. We talk through security, IE, if we get attacked, we run to the closest police, and get an uber.

    3. Your cell phone. Get a local sim chip. Number for local police is 190, for bombeiros (firemen) is 193. I've called police and they did show, 10-20 minutes later. I had been jumped by 10+, and the local cops got me out. I lost a cell phone (I always carry multiple), and have "concealed carry pockets" on my bags, which saved a lap top (which was in the water reservoir pocket of a 5. 11 tactical MOAB16).

    4. I do carry knives, but again, play defense in how I use them, if ever. That said, read "shantaram".

    5. I wear Vasco the gama shirts or masks. The goal in defense is to make the criminal pick the next victim. Vasco is the team of the poor criminals generally, and it is not the team that the average tourist picks (flamengo). I don't really care about futbol, but the best girls are vasco, because they are in the jungle, fight or die. The tenets of Brazilian culture are fighting fucking and fubtol.

    6. I have also started wearing local fireman cloths (Rua the Republica 13, near Metro Vargas) -- long underwear, boxer briefs, shorts, shirts, even a mask, and ball caps. When I met my girl at Central (in the area between the tren and the metro, the chokepoint through which 90% of Rio GDPs pass, I wore: black tennis shoes, khaki pants (fireman wear khaki's), a grey fireman polo shirt, a grey vasco mask). No one is going to assault a Rio military fireman (bombeiro militar). My girl, Nina Deponca, who bartends at a bar in a favela in Zona Norte tells me Bombeiro Civil is even better (grey service pants, grey service blouse), as sometimes a bombeiro militar will be shot by a drug gang in her 'hood. They will ask for ID when you buy it, but then if your a tourist, and a estrangeiro, they will just sell it to you. The checkout clerks at the market call me bombeiro estrangeiro, with a laugh.

    7. Have the right friends, best yet that you can call on a what's app video call to tell the cops or security that vagabundo is OK, a boa gente, back the fuck off and leave the man alone.

    8. The hotel gets her ID. Best security ever.

    Oh, by the way, say you have a new 19 year old Rihanna quality guest over. The first impression of you is: a bombeiro shirt and a vasco mask at the train station; and in the bedroom, you wear bombeiro underwear between fucking her 4-5 times at night, and the same the next day, all while cooking and uber eats ordering everything she wants. People hate cops but generally, they like firemen who don't care if you're smoking weed or doing other vagabundo type things, as long as you don't set the place on fire. That's a good look for our profession.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    That is in almost any city that you go to. The locals are always afraid of downtown. I was in Bogota a few weeks ago and I always stay downtown. This chick was hungry but she was scared shitless to walk outside at night with me. At some points she held me tight and others she refused to walk another step. But when she saw me leaving her ass she would run and catch up. Sure you see some vagrants around but they don't fuck with anybody.

    The countless times I have been in downtown Rio at night the only thing I have seen is a vagrant busting out somebody's car window with a broomstick. I walked by and said oi and he said oi back.

  6. #21952
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    The countless times I have been in downtown Rio at night the only thing I have seen is a vagrant busting out somebody's car window with a broomstick. I walked by and said oi and he said oi back.
    LOL, thanks for the laugh.

  7. #21951
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    You're doing the right thing taking Uber everywhere. However, like Sperto said, if you're staying in Copacabana, it's not safe. Quite the opposite, the farther you go from Copa, the safer and less touristy it becomes. Ipanema, Leblon and Barra are safer than Copacabana, but they are more upscale local neighborhoods and not "tourist areas. " And people must understand already that their personal experiences tell exactly bupkis about safety. Just because I haven't personally experienced any violence during my many trips to Rio doesn't make it safe.

    Just talk to locals. Many Zona Sol residents are even scared to go on the bus or venture to Centro. To me that's overkill, but they have their reasons.
    Yeah I went on a date with a girl and she told me she had her phone stolen in copa. She takes ubers everywhere.

    On my first stay I was in copa but later I moved to Ipanema and now barra. They definitely feel safer.

  8. #21950
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Just talk to locals. Many Zona Sol residents are even scared to go on the bus or venture to Centro. To me that's overkill, but they have their reasons.
    That is in almost any city that you go to. The locals are always afraid of downtown. I was in Bogota a few weeks ago and I always stay downtown. This chick was hungry but she was scared shitless to walk outside at night with me. At some points she held me tight and others she refused to walk another step. But when she saw me leaving her ass she would run and catch up. Sure you see some vagrants around but they don't fuck with anybody.

    The countless times I have been in downtown Rio at night the only thing I have seen is a vagrant busting out somebody's car window with a broomstick. I walked by and said oi and he said oi back.

  9. #21949

    PM me

    PM me.

    I have tried to contact you but I can't.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatDudeThere  [View Original Post]
    I want to thank you again for all your useful information that you posted here. I moved into Transamerica today. Would love to go on one of your hunting trips, drinks on me or course.

  10. #21948

    Touristy and safe are 2 different things in Rio

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatDudeThere  [View Original Post]
    Damn. Why not catch an Uber? I've been in Rio for 3 weeks now. Not even close to having any issues. But I am staying in the tourist / safe areas.
    You're doing the right thing taking Uber everywhere. However, like Sperto said, if you're staying in Copacabana, it's not safe. Quite the opposite, the farther you go from Copa, the safer and less touristy it becomes. Ipanema, Leblon and Barra are safer than Copacabana, but they are more upscale local neighborhoods and not "tourist areas. " And people must understand already that their personal experiences tell exactly bupkis about safety. Just because I haven't personally experienced any violence during my many trips to Rio doesn't make it safe.

    Just talk to locals. Many Zona Sol residents are even scared to go on the bus or venture to Centro. To me that's overkill, but they have their reasons.

  11. #21947
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatDudeThere  [View Original Post]
    Damn. Why not catch an Uber? I've been in Rio for 3 weeks now. Not even close to having any issues. But I am staying in the tourist / safe areas.
    Damn. If you had bothered to RTFF you would have known that Help closed 2010, and back then it didn't exist Uber.
    Btw, tourist area isn't the safe area. Lange nase. (I almost would write LOL if I didn't thought it seemed so weird). Take care!

  12. #21946
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    About 30 minutes after she left, her husband showed up asking me why I didn't pay his wife the 150 R (No door man in my apartment building after 5 PM) . I explained what happened and even showed him our text messages,
    Why did you answer the door for someone you did not know?

  13. #21945

    Husband showed up!

    Around 2008/2009, I had a "Husband" come knocking on my door because I paid his wife 100 R for an afternoon date. At the time, the dollar was like 1 to 1. 5 Real. I was getting 150 for all night from Help so I figured 100 R was reasonable for an afternoon romp. I got her number off the beach and sent her a message stating how much I would pay and my address. We had a good session, but when I went to pay her, she said she normally gets a minimum of 150 R for her dates. We didn't have an argument per say, but I could tell she was really annoyed that she was only getting 100 R. About 30 minutes after she left, her husband showed up asking me why I didn't pay his wife the 150 R (No door man in my apartment building after 5 PM) . I explained what happened and even showed him our text messages, I told him "If she didn't want the 100 R, she shouldn't have come to my apartment". Nothing ended up happening and they both left my door without any further money changing hands but it could have been a bad situation.

  14. #21944
    Quote Originally Posted by ExecTalent  [View Original Post]
    You bring up an interesting point. I had been seeing a girl I met in Help and one night she suggested we get into a particular waiting cab. I declined and flagged one down. The other cab followed us and tried to run us off the road. Fortunately (not usually the case) we came upon a roadblock and I was searched by the police (who are known to plant drugs on tourist and extort payments). The other cab then left us alone. The girl told me that the cabbie was her boyfriend and he planned on robbing me. She decided to stay with me and ditch the boyfriend. Other than that one case, I have never had any problems in Rio. Cannot say the same about other countries, including the US. There have been reports of tourists in Rio getting robbed by escorts and even killed but I think that is rare. It would be good to hear from other forum members about their experiences.
    Damn. Why not catch an Uber? I've been in Rio for 3 weeks now. Not even close to having any issues. But I am staying in the tourist / safe areas.

  15. #21943
    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabundo1  [View Original Post]
    Darkside termas.
    I want to thank you again for all your useful information that you posted here. I moved into Transamerica today. Would love to go on one of your hunting trips, drinks on me or course.

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