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  1. #20743
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    What about the places that were closed because of the fire hazard? Did you notice any difference? Were they reopened? A buddy of mine said they were doing some remodeling there because of it.
    Very minimal changes.

    One of the girls I was with laughed and said nothing changed, just a few bribes paid and everything open again.

  2. #20742
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Pretty much everywhere in the world that there are people, there are regular women. I would think the hookers are the ones that have to be sought out. He must be new to the planet. I hope his friends speak Portuguese. If there was any particular place to go for foreigners to pick up "easy" free chicks then everyone would go there. Unfortunately that country or place does not exist. They should probably start their hunting early online or risk going all the way to Brazil and heading back home with a dry dick if they have something against paying hookers.
    Yeh thanks I have told then to brush up on their Portuguese if they want to pull non P4P. I will LMAO if a number of them end up with a dry dick of a trip and I am taking back hot GDPs every night. Nothing like rubbing people's faces in it.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    Never understood this mindset. OBV the guys I've spoken to who think this way and are "anti-p4 p" always say the same shit, "bro your dick is going to fall off with a hooker, you must have so many STDs man, what's wrong you can't get pussy where you live?


    Indoctrinated by western morality, especially here in the states, makes me cringe whenever I talk to them. Anyways not so young tell your friends good luck flying 10 hours down to the amazon expecting to be the great "western" prize for "impoverished" third worlds. This isn't 1970.

    I can already here their conversation," it's going to be like shooting fish in a barrel bro".
    Couldn't agree more. The attitude irritates me but This wasn't a planned trip. Basically one of the guys who I am the closest with had suggested a few trips in the past and they all fizzled out so when he mentioned Rio I assume this was just more talk that would never lead to anything. A few months later he says "Norwegian Air have a sale we've all got tickets are you coming". I couldn't really say no LOL. Me and the (probably soon to be Mrs) have an uneasy understanding about my "hobby" but after some drama after my trips to Thailand she really kicks up a fuss about me having any more sex holidays so I haven't been anywhere of that nature since 2014. However, as she going away with her girlfriends later in the year I saw this as a great opportunity to basically use the guys trip as an Alibi for myself.

    I agree people buy into the western media portrayal of people who pay for sex. We will be quite a diverse group tho- A welsh guy of African descent. An English and Italian Guy of African descent. An English mixed race half Jamaican guy me and another white English guy and a couple of others who I have never met. I haven't been to Italy but having lived with Italians I suspected they have a more relaxed view on prostitution as would the African and Jamaican background. I am certainly going to do my best to turn a few of them to the dark side LOL.

    As you say, with a lot of Guys also it is more of an ego thing. I don't need to pay etc. For me its not about needing to pay, I actually prefer paying. OK that's not entirely true, yes I would prefer to be Christiano Ronaldo etc and have models chucking themselves at me but back in the real world its not going to happen. 1) I like it as a simple business transaction,2) on average pros know what they are doing a bit more than a regular drink girl I might land in a nightclub. 3) I am only 31 but I have lost enthusiasm for nightclubbing and chasing after girls. When I go on Holiday I like the girls to chase after me.

    Quote Originally Posted by RioBob  [View Original Post]
    WSG or world sex guide has been defunct for many years now. I remember using it back in the late 90's. I do believe it morphed into this site somehow but so long ago and I don't know the details..
    Many thanks for the helpful reply, particularly on comparing 2007 to now and the Lapa suggestion. I always forget about tinder because it didn't exist the last time I was single.

  3. #20741
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Speaking of hookers, I hit VM on Sunday night.
    What about the places that were closed because of the fire hazard? Did you notice any difference? Were they reopened? A buddy of mine said they were doing some remodeling there because of it.

  4. #20740
    Quote Originally Posted by Notsoyoung  [View Original Post]
    Non P4P / GDP scene in Copa.

    I used to be a member on here posting on Thailand some years ago (well I think it was on here or WSG but WSG doesn't seem to exist anymore- out of curiosity- anyone know why it closed down) but have lost access to that email account and can't remember my username or Password as its been about 6 or 7 years.

    Anyway, after close to 13 years I am finally heading back to Rio in March (it's been far too long).

    WSG or world sex guide has been defunct for many years now. I remember using it back in the late 90's. I do believe it morphed into this site somehow but so long ago and I don't know the details.

    Your young friends can find many young and willing girls on the dating apps, I have seen guys in their 20's use tinder and some really nice young girls their same age showed up and did it for free, I was very envious. In this case then it almost doesn't matter where you stay if you use the app.

    Copacabana is nothing like it was back in 2007 when Help was open and Meia Pataca was the go to place in the afternoon as well as the beach across the street from the Rio Othon Palace hotel. Today that area is very low key, MP is a family restaurant now, the beach while you may spot a GDP here and there is not overflowing like it used to be.

    You can probably stay in Copa which has more hotels and the beach and party in Lapa at night which seems to be a popular place for young single women these days.

  5. #20739
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Pretty much everywhere in the world that there are people, there are regular women. I would think the hookers are the ones that have to be sought out. He must be new to the planet.
    Haha! Great observation! Lmao!

    Speaking of hookers, I hit VM on Sunday night.

    I spent all of December in Europe exploring, and man did I miss Brazil! The girls mainly, of course.

    I texted a few of my VM regulars, told them I was heading there.

    All 3 of them showed up. Over a period from my arrival at 7 pm to 5 am in the morning, I had fun with all 3 of them, separately, plus 2 more newbies, one an absolute smoking hot 18 year old negra, the other an 18 year old magrinha bronzeada.

    I take them to my favorite bar in VM, where the rooms are clean, with AC and new sheets every time.

    Plus the Tia (madam) there knows me, let's me stay as long as I like and I pay afterwards.

    I pay the girls separately, normally at about 80R per hour.

    Really I just pay them what I want, and they're always happy, cause I've built and build a rapport with them.

    Every one of these VM girls was more affectionate than the best girl I had in Germany, the FKKs.

    Obviously the place isn't as nice as the FKKs, and Hell yes, some of the FKK girls were hot, however, for someone accustomed to Brazil babes, the FKKs sorely lack the spice, IMO and experience of course. YMMV claro.

    Funny thing, at the end of my night at VM, 5 am, I was out of money.

    I had maybe 30 reais left LOL.

    UBER said No cars available, so I took a taxi and told the guy I had to run in get his fare money.

    He said, Tudo bom!

    Great night!

    Great return to Rio!

    Below, a few pics of 2 of the girls.
    Pics they sent me from the beach and at home.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails BC821154-A991-4C89-8157-5FBB14AD2A32.jpg‎   078DC4E9-3A8E-4A0A-8DBD-F52650F25381.jpg‎   9F6382B2-0F3A-4EBE-90B2-BED56BD74402.jpg‎  

  6. #20738

    Don't travel with squares

    Quote Originally Posted by Notsoyoung  [View Original Post]
    Non P4P / GDP scene in Copa.

    This time around I will be travelling with a group of lads (all late 20's early 30's all in shape, some game-aprt from myself LOL). I know a lot of guys don't like to admit these things (ego etc) but I know there will be at least a few (if not the majority) who won't want to pay and will want to hunt for regular Brasileira's.
    Never understood this mindset. OBV the guys I've spoken to who think this way and are "anti-p4 p" always say the same shit, "bro your dick is going to fall off with a hooker, you must have so many STDs man, what's wrong you can't get pussy where you live?

    Indoctrinated by western morality, especially here in the states, makes me cringe whenever I talk to them. Anyways not so young tell your friends good luck flying 10 hours down to the amazon expecting to be the great "western" prize for "impoverished" third worlds. This isn't 1970.

    I can already here their conversation," it's going to be like shooting fish in a barrel bro".

  7. #20737
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    I really hope you are not spamming the board with some bullshit and are seriously asking about Non P4 P. There are plenty of regular girls all over Copa in the restaurants and clubs! Your 20 year old friends should have no problem finding women in barra tijuica, Lapa, Ipanema. Every where you turn there are regular women.
    Pretty much everywhere in the world that there are people, there are regular women. I would think the hookers are the ones that have to be sought out. He must be new to the planet. I hope his friends speak Portuguese. If there was any particular place to go for foreigners to pick up "easy" free chicks then everyone would go there. Unfortunately that country or place does not exist. They should probably start their hunting early online or risk going all the way to Brazil and heading back home with a dry dick if they have something against paying hookers.

  8. #20736

    No need for the concern

    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    I really hope you are not spamming the board with some bullshit and are seriously asking about Non P4 P. There are plenty of regular girls all over Copa in the restaurants and clubs! Your 20 year old friends should have no problem finding women in barra tijuica, Lapa, Ipanema. Every where you turn there are regular women.

    I hope you return with a trip report with your findings.
    Thanks for the reply.

    Definitely not spam, trust me. My memory is just a little Hazy because it's been nearly 13 years and it was a heavy trip in terms of drinking (I my defense was only 19 at the time) but every hot girl I ran into in Copa bars clubs the beach etc (well apart from 1 girl) was clearly working. Since then I always just associated Copa as a place like Pattaya where all the girls there are working.

    Any particular clubs in the Copa area you can recommend for Non P4P?

  9. #20735

    Hope you are serious

    Quote Originally Posted by Notsoyoung  [View Original Post]
    Non P4P / GDP scene in Copa.



    Whilst Copa suits me just fine (I would probably prefer it), If Copa is still like it was back in 2007 then I do not know how many regular girls they are going to find in Copa. If know the Rio Government tried to tidy up Copa with the Olympics and World Cup (They closed Help which I only got to experience once, man that place is forever embedded in my memory). Have things reverted since the world's eyes left RIo? What do you people think about the chances of finding Non GDP action in Copa these days. . If you think the chances of this are low, are there any specific area's you would say were better in that regard to base ourselves in Ipanema, Lapa or Centro perhaps.
    .
    I really hope you are not spamming the board with some bullshit and are seriously asking about Non P4 P. There are plenty of regular girls all over Copa in the restaurants and clubs! Your 20 year old friends should have no problem finding women in barra tijuica, Lapa, Ipanema. Every where you turn there are regular women.

    I hope you return with a trip report with your findings.

  10. #20734

    Non P4P / GDP scene in Copa

    Non P4P / GDP scene in Copa.

    I used to be a member on here posting on Thailand some years ago (well I think it was on here or WSG but WSG doesn't seem to exist anymore- out of curiosity- anyone know why it closed down) but have lost access to that email account and can't remember my username or Password as its been about 6 or 7 years.

    Anyway, after close to 13 years I am finally heading back to Rio in March (it's been far too long).

    Essentially what I am asking is how much has this area changed since 2007. I wasn't sure whether to post this here or on the accommodation thread or the non pro thread as it kind of covers all three.

    When I went before I was travelling with other proud sex tourists (one man and one woman- its an interesting story I plan on posting in the next week or so with something of a summary of my first rio trip before I post a new report in a few month's time).

    This time around I will be travelling with a group of lads (all late 20's early 30's all in shape, some game-aprt from myself LOL). I know a lot of guys don't like to admit these things (ego etc) but I know there will be at least a few (if not the majority) who won't want to pay and will want to hunt for regular Brasileira's.

    Whilst Copa suits me just fine (I would probably prefer it), If Copa is still like it was back in 2007 then I do not know how many regular girls they are going to find in Copa. If know the Rio Government tried to tidy up Copa with the Olympics and World Cup (They closed Help which I only got to experience once, man that place is forever embedded in my memory). Have things reverted since the world's eyes left RIo? What do you people think about the chances of finding Non GDP action in Copa these days. . If you think the chances of this are low, are there any specific area's you would say were better in that regard to base ourselves in Ipanema, Lapa or Centro perhaps.

    I am working my way through this entire thread back from 2009 (I am trying to do about 25 pages a day. It is quite interesting actually reading about people who were convinced Help wouldn't close etc)) so I will likely find this information in due course but in terms of booking accommodation and where to base ourselves we probably need to get that sorted quite soon so any information people can offer on this would be greatly appreciated.

  11. #20733
    Heard around carnival.

    Quote Originally Posted by EnjoyLife63  [View Original Post]
    Anyone heard from 4 x 4?

    I read a post they will open in January.

  12. #20732
    Quote Originally Posted by WorldTravel69  [View Original Post]
    Chreche dos Maridos ?Correct Name
    Rua Djalma Ulrich 163, Sala 701, Copacabana. Name ? 6 Garotes? Prices: ___.? Tel: ___? Hours: ___?.

    But, fill in the rest of the info. I came up with something else. At Av Rio Branco 185 sala 1722.
    Which may be on the Map?
    If not tell us What You found?

    https://br.skokka.com/acompanhantes/...shsn274135101/



    I put in on the Map?.

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?h...419302454&z=19
    Haven't been myself,but; Mon-Fri 10-20 Sat 10-18.

    30 min /200.

    40 min /220.

    1 HR /270.

    Tel:39235951.

  13. #20731

    Opps

    I changed the info a little.

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldTravel69  [View Original Post]
    Sala VIP
    Rua Djalma Ulrich 163, Sala 701, Copacabana. 6 Garotas. Prices: ___.? Tel: ___? Hours: ___?.

    If not tell us What You found?

    I put in on the Map?.

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?h...419302454&z=19

  14. #20730

  15. #20729

    Thanks

    Chreche dos Maridos ?Correct Name
    Rua Djalma Ulrich 163, Sala 701, Copacabana. Name ? 6 Garotes? Prices: ___.? Tel: ___? Hours: ___?.

    But, fill in the rest of the info. I came up with something else. At Av Rio Branco 185 sala 1722.
    Which may be on the Map?
    If not tell us What You found?

    https://br.skokka.com/acompanhantes/...shsn274135101/



    I put in on the Map?.

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?h...419302454&z=19

    Quote Originally Posted by SAS40  [View Original Post]
    Chreche dos Maridos has opened a new sola in Copa area, called Sala VIP.

    Rua Djalma Ulrich 163 Sala 701 Copacabana.

    6 girls, all new apparently.

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