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  1. #17649
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    Never ever pay up front. Remember these girls are offering a service. They are not offering a product, when somebody is offering a service you do not pay up front, just like you would never pay your barber upfront, or pay a mechanic upfront to fix your car, or even when you dry clean your clothes.
    Sounds like a great plan. Until someone's dick gets hard and changes the plan for them.

  2. #17648

    Actually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrod10  [View Original Post]
    They approached me and offered a three some for 400 R I said no the price was out of my price range. We talked for some time with them telling me all of the erotic things they would do for me and finally they said ok 150 r each. I consulted with my little buddy spike and off we go to my apartment. The moral of the report is never break the number one rule of p4 p. Never pay up front.
    That's rule number two. Rule number one is that if the price is too good to be true for the service promised, then it probably is! You set yourself up for that one dude. We must remember to think with our "big buddy" and not the little one LOL! Anytime a tute is making me all of these promises for a price that I know doesn't match the market, I'm not a buyer. If the deal smells fishy, walk away!

  3. #17647
    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrod10  [View Original Post]
    The moral of the report is never break the number one rule of p4 p. Never pay up front.
    Never ever pay up front. Remember these girls are offering a service. They are not offering a product, when somebody is offering a service you do not pay up front, just like you would never pay your barber upfront, or pay a mechanic upfront to fix your car, or even when you dry clean your clothes.

    Usually when I break it down to them like that these girls will understand, and if they still are asking for money upfront, just kick them out, there is no crime to kick them out of your apartment / hotel, as long as you did not have sex with them.

    They can't call the police and the police can't do anything too you. Don't be scared!

  4. #17646
    I don't know if it was ET or Sperto that mentioned this place years ago, but I have been partaking ever since. My girl insisted on ordering the same thing I did then when she saw it she put 3/4 of her meat on my plate. Like I would be able to eat more. Afterwards we walked past Mabs but at 4 pm there were only like 2 people there.
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  5. #17645
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo  [View Original Post]
    My buddy would always take a picture with the girl he was considering taking back to his room.
    I tried that shit in Sosua and I told the girl exactly why I was taking the picture of her. Of course, being a Sosua chick it made no difference. She still tried to pull some bullshit back in the room.

  6. #17644
    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrod10  [View Original Post]
    I just returned home from a long trip to both SPO and RIO. I have reported about SPO so here goes my report about RIO. This will be about the thieves I encountered. Late one night I pulled 2 chicas out of MABS. They approached me and offered a three some for 400 R I said no the price was out of my price range. We talked for some time with them telling me all of the erotic things they would do for me and finally they said ok 150 r each. I consulted with my little buddy spike and off we go to my apartment. They wrote down their names for me but its hard to read looks like JULIA the early 30 blond with a pretty face med nat boobs and nice body and SAMANDA about the same age early 30 brown hair that she talked about changing to blond with the other chica who claims to be a hairdresser. So all was well until we get to my apartment and they wanted pay up front I explained I don't pay up front and all hell broke loose. But sir you promised. I will skip all the drama and say yes I broke my number rule I said ok I will show you the money and give you 50 r each and the rest when we finish. I am sure you know what happened next. Clothes on and out the door they go with a final fuck you. The moral of the report is never break the number one rule of p4 p. Never pay up front.
    Thanks for your report, I am glad that nothing bad happened. I used to have a buddy that I traveled a few times to rio with and he had a technique that might work for newbies reading this forum.

    My buddy would always take a picture with the girl he was considering taking back to his room. It didn't matter if it was in Meia Pataca, the beach or club help. He would always ask one of us to take a picture of them together. One day we asked him why he did that he responded for 2 reasons.

    1) If the girl won't take a picture with me in public, then I know she won't allow pictures in my apartment. So its best to just dismiss her right there and then. (no pics was a deal killer for him).

    2) if the girl was runner, robber or gave bad service, he now had a picture of her that she can show to his friends to warn them.

  7. #17643
    Quote Originally Posted by ExecTalent  [View Original Post]
    Something that is rarely talked about but is an important distinction between mongers is why you are spending time with a woman. A couple things come to mind with these 20 minute girls. First, seems just a level above masturbation. Not much time to enjoy the finer points of female-male interaction. Second, with the price so low pretty much everyone can afford it and with the time so short it would seem that a large number of partners would be seen in a day and every day. Some might find that distasteful. I think it is great that people review all the places available even if they might not be to everyone's particular taste. While more of a fine dining and churrascaria man myself, every once in awhile you just have to have a Big Mac and fries.
    This is a good point. I would imagine the low end joints are probably better suited to the younger monger with somewhat less experience who still values quantity. To me there is still the appeal in having a few short sessions one after an other. And it helps that the garotas in the cheap places in Rio often gives such a great service. I couldn't do the short, cheap sessions in Europe anymore as they are so bleak in comparison. Here in Rio a 20 minute meeting can be so passionate. Of course no forplay and no getting to know each other. But that is where the regular girls from the dating sites or the bar hook-ups comes into the picture for me. I will however try some "fine dining" when I go to Sao Paulo.

    I made a visit today to the slightly nicer prive called Bel Prazer in Rio Branco 185.20 minutes 100 reais, 40 minutes 130 reais and one hour 160 reais if I remember correct. Big lineup of 10-12 girls but no real standouts really. Made a session with Elo (most of the time I have no idea how to spell these Brazilian names). She is a 19 yo, sweet looking morena clara, very petite body and quite average service.

  8. #17642

    2 thieves

    I just returned home from a long trip to both SPO and RIO. I have reported about SPO so here goes my report about RIO. This will be about the thieves I encountered. Late one night I pulled 2 chicas out of MABS. They approached me and offered a three some for 400 R I said no the price was out of my price range. We talked for some time with them telling me all of the erotic things they would do for me and finally they said ok 150 r each. I consulted with my little buddy spike and off we go to my apartment. They wrote down their names for me but its hard to read looks like JULIA the early 30 blond with a pretty face med nat boobs and nice body and SAMANDA about the same age early 30 brown hair that she talked about changing to blond with the other chica who claims to be a hairdresser. So all was well until we get to my apartment and they wanted pay up front I explained I don't pay up front and all hell broke loose. But sir you promised. I will skip all the drama and say yes I broke my number rule I said ok I will show you the money and give you 50 r each and the rest when we finish. I am sure you know what happened next. Clothes on and out the door they go with a final fuck you. The moral of the report is never break the number one rule of p4 p. Never pay up front.

  9. #17641
    Quote Originally Posted by Jubby007  [View Original Post]
    Is escort service working in Rio anymore?
    I've been going to Rio since 1980 and always enjoyed the escorts. I'm not a termas or privee type of guy, I've been to most of the termas and I still go but it's not my primary focus in Rio. I don't usually monger during the day so a trip to Centro is not something I would do. During the day I like to go to the beach or walk around town and take pictures.Sure if it's raining and I'm bored I'll go into one of the termas and they're great but I'd rather be at the beach or the pool.

    When Help was open I would go every night at midnight and this is what I'd like to do. But times have changed as we all know so for example on my last trip to Rio on Friday and Saturday nights I went to the swing club in Botafogo, one or 2 nights at Mabs which was a disappointment and the rest of the nights I stayed in my apartment and played music, drank whisky and smoked cigars on my terrace. Unfortunately nightlife for mongers is limited these days so even though I would prefer to go out the choices are limited.

    I would look at sites like Hotside and Barra Vip and call one of the independent escorts to come over. Most of them are very nice, all types, just look at their pics many have their face showing these days. Barra Vip has a lot of girls who live in Barra and some even have their own apartments which you can go to, I've never been I prefer they come to me. Hotside has more girls in Copa it seems and in some cases the same girls are on both sites. Years ago there seemed to be many agencies but looks like today most of the known agencies are gone and the escort scene is now made up of independents which I think is better because they're free to do whatever it is they want to do while the agencies kept their girls on a tight leash and were prone to bait and switch.

    The cost for these independents is about the same as a trip to a top tier termas maybe even less for a full hour. Many times if you have chemistry with the girl she will hang with you, go out with you and I always take them to the swing club with me if they're cool. Most of them after a night out of swinging want to come back to my place for more action all for the agreed upon original price.

    For me this is the best deal in town right now but of course everybody is different and doesn't get this, that's Ok.

  10. #17640

    Getting off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrahimovic  [View Original Post]
    There are definitely some cuties available in the prives in centro. The cheapest places almost always seems to offer the most uninhibited service and just as many lookers, granted I haven't really been to any more upscale venues so far this trip.

    I made some notes on a few of the more memorable encounters. Sala 1409 in 13 de Maio 33 Bloco A presented a lineup of at least ten girls, however all of them a little bit samey 5-6's. Half hour 100 reais, 20 minutes 80 reais. I went with cute blonde Bia, 21 yo. She seemed a little bit distracted though, not the usual passionate carioca. I stumbled on a standout beauty in Sala 610 in 13 de Maio 47.20 yo morena Ariel, cute smile, beautiful eyes and tight body. Shy though and the service was only average. This was a trash prive, 20 minutes for 50 reais.

    Sala 1301 in 13 de Maio 33 bloco A. Seems like a good place, 20 minutes for 80 reais and a small step up from the trash level. 5-6 girls in the lineup with one that I had already sessioned in Bel Prazer before. Picked India who is 25 yo and a quite beautiful morena, charming smile and dreamy eyes and all this combined with good service, decent GFE. The only thing I missed was DFK, still highly recommended. Sala 1722 in Rio Branco 185 was a fun place. The girls in the presentation took their time, presented exactly what they would offer in the cabine. A lot of joking around and kissing, touching. I had the pleasure to be with Isis, 19 yo petite morena. Very completa with DFK, BBBJ and passionate service, 20 minutes for 80 reais. Also returned to Uruguayan 24 and met 19 yo morena Larifa on the 4th floor. Absolute cutest baby face, super petite and good attitude.
    Something that is rarely talked about but is an important distinction between mongers is why you are spending time with a woman. A couple things come to mind with these 20 minute girls. First, seems just a level above masturbation. Not much time to enjoy the finer points of female-male interaction. Second, with the price so low pretty much everyone can afford it and with the time so short it would seem that a large number of partners would be seen in a day and every day. Some might find that distasteful. I think it is great that people review all the places available even if they might not be to everyone's particular taste. While more of a fine dining and churrascaria man myself, every once in awhile you just have to have a Big Mac and fries.

  11. #17639
    Quote Originally Posted by Jubby007  [View Original Post]
    The reason I hate Thailand is due to lady boys. A friend of mine from London just arrived back and he had a hard time picking up chicks at the bar because he was not sure if he will do anal with a boy or a girl that night.
    The reason I hate Thailand is due to Asian women. There are not many options but to fuck Asian girls.

  12. #17638

    Centro prives

    There are definitely some cuties available in the prives in centro. The cheapest places almost always seems to offer the most uninhibited service and just as many lookers, granted I haven't really been to any more upscale venues so far this trip.

    I made some notes on a few of the more memorable encounters. Sala 1409 in 13 de Maio 33 Bloco A presented a lineup of at least ten girls, however all of them a little bit samey 5-6's. Half hour 100 reais, 20 minutes 80 reais. I went with cute blonde Bia, 21 yo. She seemed a little bit distracted though, not the usual passionate carioca. I stumbled on a standout beauty in Sala 610 in 13 de Maio 47.20 yo morena Ariel, cute smile, beautiful eyes and tight body. Shy though and the service was only average. This was a trash prive, 20 minutes for 50 reais.

    Sala 1301 in 13 de Maio 33 bloco A. Seems like a good place, 20 minutes for 80 reais and a small step up from the trash level. 5-6 girls in the lineup with one that I had already sessioned in Bel Prazer before. Picked India who is 25 yo and a quite beautiful morena, charming smile and dreamy eyes and all this combined with good service, decent GFE. The only thing I missed was DFK, still highly recommended. Sala 1722 in Rio Branco 185 was a fun place. The girls in the presentation took their time, presented exactly what they would offer in the cabine. A lot of joking around and kissing, touching. I had the pleasure to be with Isis, 19 yo petite morena. Very completa with DFK, BBBJ and passionate service, 20 minutes for 80 reais. Also returned to Uruguaina 24 and met 19 yo morena Larifa on the 4th floor. Absolute cutest babyface, super petite and good attitude.

  13. #17637
    Quote Originally Posted by Jubby007  [View Original Post]
    The reason I hate Thailand is due to lady boys. A friend of mine from London just arrived back and he had a hard time picking up chicks at the bar because he was not sure if he will do anal with a boy or a girl that night.
    1. It's not difficult at all to tell the difference between a real woman and a ladyboy in Thailand. I could be fooled in pictures, but not in person. Generally ladyboys can't fake a woman's voice completely. It's a dead give away 95% of the time. For the other 5%, there's about 20 other tells that will clue you in.

    2. They WILL MAKE SURE, that you know they are a ladyboy. The scenario of them trying to trick you doesn't happen mainly because that's how trans people get attacked (or killed) by homophobic people. So they make sure that both parties are well aware of the equipment involved so that there aren't any surprises later.

    It is not hard at all to pick up women anywhere in Bangkok, or Thailand for that matter. Pussy is packaged and sold here in so many ways that I am still discovering new P4 p options after 4 years of living here. So your buddy is maybe embellishing his story a bit. And you hate Thailand because of something your buddy said? Or you have been here yourself? Either way, his claim of having a hard time picking up chicks in Thailand is pretty laughable.

  14. #17636
    I have noticed in the recent discussion that the current generation no longer care about economics. Just waiting to get back to Brazil, I am friends with Zona sul supermercado ex owner who promised me this time to take me around. Can anyone tell me is there any other path scene available in Rio except Termas. I do have a friendship with this man but its costly because I have to bring so much gifts for him. However, he take me around We do business travel. Is escort service working in Rio anymore? Any late night gringo joints except Barbarelas?

  15. #17635

    Dating sites

    It is true that the dating sites takes some work as it is a numbers game. Write to 25 girls, get a response from maybe 7 or 8 out of them and get a good conversation going with 3-4. It has been pretty easy though once I get the girls to speak on whatsapp. I tend to be honest in that I am just going to stay for a short while. That way it is easier to weed out the ones that are not up for casual sex but there will of course be less interested candidates. Sex on first date most times, occasionally on the second date. If I feel that a girl is really keen I will just be up front and tell her that I want to meet her for "carinho" and to kiss all her body and that normally works just fine. They will make a few surprised smileys and then be turned on. With two girls I made up a little lie about having a girlfriend with me here in Brazil. I figured that was a swift way of signalling what I am looking for. One of them responded that she wanted to see me but that she would rather wait for me to be single. The other one agreed to meet at a motel to fuck. A little bit of a turn on as well that she thinks you are cheating on someone.

    It is always nice to have the adventure and the challenge to try to score with a regular girl. It adds a lot to the trip experience to have someone go sightseeing with, sharing a meal or go to the beach. Even met a few university girls that insisted to pay for their half which was a surprise.

    Entao, on to the reporting. First stop Club 13 at around 11 am with maybe 6-7 girls present and a few guys. Good quality with three options that I would easily go with at that price point. Picked Ari, a 23 yo Bahiana, spinner type light mulatta with a really cute, innocent face. She claimed it was her first day in the location. Don't know about that but the service was ace. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, light domination and she begged me to cum in her face / mouth. 20 minutes is 65 reais and this girls is indeed very hot.

    Onto Uruguaiana 24 to climb some stairs. Recognized a few of the girls from my last visit in June so had already sessioned with the two hottest ones. Had a date with Mariella, a full figured black sweetie with huge natural tits. Very good passionate service. Also made a visit to Rua do Ouvidor 130, sala 707, Hollywood Massagens I think it's called. Second time in a row with a disappointing lineup here, will avoid in the future. Next day meant a return to Club 13. Far less quality this time with the girls showing up late and a bit of a sausage fest really. Picked the best option which was Azianne (a girl with long hot legs and a nice ass, tiny tits. When we get up to the cabins there is a new really hot looking girl ready to make her way down to the bar, bad timing. The session was pretty good, BBBJ, DFK, DATY. Called it a day and went to Ipanema for a swim in the ocean and later on party time.

    Woke up yesterday with a really bad hangover. After a good brunch at a kilograma buffet I was ready for action. Nothing makes me as horny as having partied the night before. Opted for a privee run. 13 de Maio 33 bloco be in Sala 1312, pretty decent lineup of 4-5 girls. Went with Patricia 23 yo, quite dirty and horny and was of course up for just about anything. Also visited Bloco A in the same building, sala 2304.6-7 girls of good standard at the price point of 50 reais for 15-20 minutes. I picked a beautiful dark mulatta, Estefani. 21 yo, spinner with the softest nipples, great kissing and intense fucking.

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