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  1. #17609

    Bodytypes

    Reading about bodytypes and races among the GPs in Rio.

    My opinions:
    1. Brazilians in general have become much fatter, even the young girls 18-23 years. If you go back to the nineties the girls were much more fit and slimmer. Partly because there were more poor people who just ate their rice, beans, chicken and meat. No money to spend on junkfood.
    2. Brazilians are now more obsessed on large asses and legs than they used to be. Giant horse-asses and superthick thighs. If they can't achieve giant asses and thighs in the gym they'll get it with injections.
    3. Every now and then I enjoy a large round bubblebut, but my preference are slimmer, fit girls with round smaller-sized bundas. Those bundas are still to be found, but they are much rarer than they used to be. Horse-asses dominates the privées.
    4. Tits. I love big natural tits. There are plenty of big tits, but most are silicontits which I don't enjoy. Finding big naturals, on preferably slimmer girls, are hard.
    4. Tits again. I don't enjoy silicon tits or saggy soft tits. Unfortunately the majority of the privê-girls have kids and because of this their tits are not always what you could wish.
    5. Bucetas. That's one thing that looks better now than in the beginning of the nineties. No more fur pies.
    6. Races. I enjoy all colors of GPs. What I choose depends of my mood. All can be found, negras, mulatas, morenas escuras and morenas claras. In my f*ck-register I seldom note a girls race as branca/white as most of the girls that you think are white in reality are morenas claras.

  2. #17608
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    no where else on earth has women with the sexual energy of garotas.
    Yeah that is the only reason why even with Brazil being expensive its still worth the cost, I have been all over the world, and some of the best sex I ever had was with Brazilian garotas, No other girls can compare, Brazilian women are passionate and they provide the ultimate GFE, even if you just met them, they want too provide the ultimate experience. Brazil is one of the only places where no working girl has ever gave me a bad nut or a whack experience. Can't say the same about places like Columbia or DR. I do wish flights to Brazil was cheaper, I would be there every 1-3 months.

  3. #17607
    Quote Originally Posted by Leblon  [View Original Post]
    Problem with termas is that girls there are now for local guys, and local guys like big bundas. There are no girls for a foreigners like me who like slim girls, or even medium size asses. That was what I find in my last visit to Rio, that was couple of years ago, but I believe it is still same.

    And besides termas, there is not so much mongering to do nowadays. No ***** Beach in Copacabana or Ipanema. After closing of Help everything went down.

    Rio is most beautiful town in the world, and Brasil is great place, everybody should visit Rio at least once in their life. But sex tourists like me, we don't come anymore. Why do a expensive trip, when you don't find girls anymore like before, Balcony is not enough.
    Rio is no longer as easy for us hobbyists as it used to be but is still a must go destination as no where else on earth has women with the sexual energy of garotas.

  4. #17606

    Incorrect

    Quote Originally Posted by Leblon  [View Original Post]
    Problem with termas is that girls there are now for local guys, and local guys like big bundas. There are no girls for a foreigners like me who like slim girls, or even medium size asses.
    This is incorrect on two counts. Plenty of foreigners (like me) travel to Brazil for the big bundas. This purported dichotomy between what the locals like and what the foreigners like is simply not there. Some foreigners like big bundas and some don't. And on the second count, I found plenty of women in Rio (and Sao Paulo) who don't have those plump, round bundas. Sessioned with many! And not just talking. I've posted picture after picture over the years as photographic evidence! People come in here and say this same kind of thing over and over again, and it's just not true. Things like few if any brancas in Rio, and all the girls have big bundas? Incorrect! Not based on my opinion, but based on the facts!

  5. #17605
    Quote Originally Posted by Sperto  [View Original Post]
    Help is long gone. I've went to Help the first time in 1991. Actually my first brazilian girl in Brazil was a Help girl. A girl who swore that she wasn't a puta. It turned out she was a Monte Carlo girl. The years passed on. The first girl that I ever payed for was a Help girl in 1996. The years passed on. I f*cked many Help-girls during those years. Help was fun when going with a bunch of friends, but it was never a first monger choice to me. The last years before Help closed it was actualy really sh*tty. The same gringos with their overpriced botttle of sh*tty Red label standing on their tables and the same old Zona Norte putas.

    Help attracted a lot of scumbags. The worst kind of putas, robbers, muggers, drugdealers, greedy gringos and corrupt police. When Help closed in 2010 I thought I would never missed that place, but I actually I do. I do miss Help, Terraco Atlantico and ho-beach. I don't miss it in the mongering scene but as an element in the Rio mongering scene. The mongering in Rio now is worse than it used to be, no doubt. BUT it still good, it just take some more work to find the gems.
    Thanks for sharing your first experience with Help. I highly appreciate your fine share of guidance after post Help. I'm still in my early 30's and for some reasons I feel old as I get to start exploring Rio back in 2006. Nevertheless, I think it is better we appreciate what Rio still has left to offer. I would still give Rio an A grade in mongering destination while comparing to other destinations in the world. All I am saying is that it is not as fun as once it used to be. If I factor in the plane ticket and the cost of apartment per day, it cost me US $250/ DAY just to be in Brazil one day without any other cost. Factor in the cost of US $200 Terms will make it US250 + 200 = US $450/ DAY. Don't you think I can bang 3 girls in anywhere on the planet each day for US $450/ DAY so why travel Brazil. Termas are US $200/ program now. It suits a person who is there for a 1 month vacation because his average cost will be low. I hope you understood my point as I rather go to Russia or Ukraine and bang chicks for price less than that.

  6. #17604
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I remember when one asked the question- Which is the number one monger destination in the world? The answer would be either Brazil or Thailand. I guess the answer is now Thailand hands down.
    The reason I hate Thailand is due to lady boys. A friend of mine from London just arrived back and he had a hard time picking up chicks at the bar because he was not sure if he will do anal with a boy or a girl that night.

  7. #17603
    Quote Originally Posted by Leblon  [View Original Post]
    Rio is most beautiful town in the world, and Brasil is great place, everybody should visit Rio at least once in their life. But sex tourists like me, we don't come anymore. Why do a expensive trip, when you don't find girls anymore like before, Balcony is not enough.
    Brazil is still a goldmine. Remember the population of Brazil is over 200 Million People, Almost half are women, Mongers are still dreaming about club help and since help has closed they act like its the end of the world. At the end of the day, you can still have fun if your willing to put the work in and also adapt and for you mongers wishing they will be another big club like help in Copacabana, You can forget it they will never open a club like that again, Everything is trending underground and moving to online and social media. My last Brazil trip I never even set foot in Mabs, or even the termas like that, I was using my Brazil female friend and social media. There are a lot of hungry girls out here, Most are Semi Pros and Non-Pro College students, Its way cheaper and the vagina is way tighter, If your willing to stop being lazy, Its better to hunt then deal with the typical jaded working girl you find in Mabs or your typical termas.

    Its the same in the United States, 10-20 Years ago if you go to any major city they had a lot of streetwalkers, right now you will hardly find any, Everything is online and social media, Women will never stop selling vagina.

  8. #17602
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    I loved Help but I only made it inside probably two times per trip. What I enjoyed even more was Terraco Atlntico (the huge open-air patio in front of Help). Nothing like sitting in front of the Ocean eating, drinking and flirting with 200 hookers eyeing you.

    If something close to Terraco Atlntico were to open in Copacabana, I'd schedule a trip immediately.
    I remember when Help was still open, there were many guys in the forum that said that they would never go to Help, that is rotten place. And then their reports for night ended often that they went to this Terraco Atlantico. So closing Help affected them also quite a lot.

    That terrace was also my favourite place, I might have taken more girls from there than from Help. And I loved the Help and went inside all the time.

  9. #17601
    Quote Originally Posted by ForceSteeler  [View Original Post]
    Brazil is still alive and well, But if you just want the old Brazil which was the point and click, your options are very limited now, The reason why the P4P scene is on the decline is that there are not a lot of foreigners that are visiting Brazil for mongering like they use too, Its not like the 90's or the early 2000's, So since they are hardly any tourist that come specifically for mongering. The Girls that use to come from all over Brazil to club help, don't bother coming to Copacabana. There is no real money. So its not worth the plane or bus ticket to go to Copacabana. Brazil is in a financial crisis best believe if you had a lot of guys coming to Brazil like they use to come in the late 90's, You will see a lot of girls coming to Copacabana.

    Even in the termas the quality is also on the decline because again there are hardly any tourist that come to Brazil and also a lot of local Brazilians due to the crisis are not spending money in the termas like they use too. Termas use to have tourist to pick up the slack, but its all drying up. But again you just have to adapt. You have to get out of the sandbox, Try learning Portuguese, Learning the Language. Will open up so many doors. Also what I like to do, If your lazy like me. I have a Brazilian chick that I am friends with. She knows a lot of girls and she hooks me up with smoking hot Brazilian chicks that would never set foot in balcony or a termas for fear there families will find out and the sex is some of the best I ever had, better than any of the working girls you will be with in the termas or balcony. I give her a nice tip and she is grateful, Its easy money and we both win.
    Problem with termas is that girls there are now for local guys, and local guys like big bundas. There are no girls for a foreigners like me who like slim girls, or even medium size asses. That was what I find in my last visit to Rio, that was couple of years ago, but I believe it is still same.

    And besides termas, there is not so much mongering to do nowadays. No ***** Beach in Copacabana or Ipanema. After closing of Help everything went down.

    Rio is most beautiful town in the world, and Brasil is great place, everybody should visit Rio at least once in their life. But sex tourists like me, we don't come anymore. Why do a expensive trip, when you don't find girls anymore like before, Balcony is not enough.

  10. #17600

    Future of Rio p4p and the rise of the ultra-evangelists in Brazil

    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    Perhaps something not exactly like Help will pop up as time and politicians change. I think anything that does pop up needs to be less conspicuous and away from the beach. Many Brasilians I know were quite embarrassed by the spectacle Help Disco had become. Rio is an international tourist destination and Help was smack dab in the middle of Copacabana. I don't know about all the "deplorables" that Sperto mentions that started frequenting Help at the end. I do know many an indiscreet mongerer would be negotiating loudly with a programa girl at a Copacabana caf in the afternoon while a family sat five feet away at the next table. One time, I heard an Austrian father and son talking loudly about performing an afternoon threesome with a sexy, young negra. Even this young negra was a bit overwhelmed by the conspicuous discussion regarding her access points.

    I'm sure many a young Carioca girl had been propositioned by foreigners on the beach and elsewhere in Zona Sul during Help's peak years. I'm not talking about flirting or seduction of any sort. I'm talking about blatant offers of money for sex. Many asshole foreigners in Rio approached every young, local woman they ran into like a programa girl.

    If I was a Carioca, frankly I would have wanted Help Disco closed.
    HELP or anyother big place like it will not come back to zona sul. Ever. Look at the Museum of images that for 7 years has been "under construction" in its place. Name me anywhere in the world where a building could be allowed to be on its way for 7 years in one of the best real estate addresses? LOL. Payola, kick-backs and purposeful overbudgeting (padding the budget) so the politicians can get money back under the table.

    As long as they can keep this going they will.

    Remember that Cabral was the reason Termas stayed open as it was an open secret the governors/mayors office got paid from them to stay open. And to service them.

    He then became the gov of Sao Paolo state hence the strong p4p scene there!!!

    You now have an evangelical (TV Evangelist) mayor and an anti-sex destination attitude in Rio and sweeping the country in line with the rise of the protestant ultra conservative evangelist church-fastest rising part of the population overtaking catholics soon.This does not spell good news for us mongerers.

    I have seen this coming for a minute so that coupled with the sheer logistical problems I had not speaking portugues in Rio definetely motivated me to learn it and reap benefits of the 4 year effort so far to take advantage and explore and exploit the non/semi pro aspect of Brazil and the sheer hornyness or the average menina which id say is a truism in regards to Brazil-no smoke without fire.

    Gents do yourself a favor and get started learning.It is the one place where English is absolutely not spoken generally.

    In centro faceless whole buildings filled with privees / casas for sure will continue to exist (and in inconspicuous grey high rises on Nossa Senhora where the rent is accomodated to assist casas staying open at times-as they serve the need of the very same people who outwardly condemn Rio as a sex destination:
    Cariocas in power.
    The average horny Centro worker and the rest of us degenerates looking for a bargain fuck hoping for a diamond-in the rough girl right behind them in the queue for the presentacao.

    Same reason termas will continue untill they become financially unviable and close.

    VM will continue untill they finally decide to build the fast train to Sao Paolo with a stop where VM is.

    It will go freelance / whatsapp / net even more now.

    The crisis is seeing the rise of the semi-pro.

    The girl who will take couple hundred reais to get smashed but under the radar.

    Portugese will help accomodate this or a carioca who speaks english-male or female.

    The local chicks who cant go abroad and turn putas will go to casas even more and work online.

  11. #17599
    Perhaps something not exactly like Help will pop up as time and politicians change. I think anything that does pop up needs to be less conspicuous and away from the beach. Many Brasilians I know were quite embarrassed by the spectacle Help Disco had become. Rio is an international tourist destination and Help was smack dab in the middle of Copacabana. I don't know about all the "deplorables" that Sperto mentions that started frequenting Help at the end. I do know many an indiscreet mongerer would be negotiating loudly with a programa girl at a Copacabana caf in the afternoon while a family sat five feet away at the next table. One time, I heard an Austrian father and son talking loudly about performing an afternoon threesome with a sexy, young negra. Even this young negra was a bit overwhelmed by the conspicuous discussion regarding her access points.

    I'm sure many a young Carioca girl had been propositioned by foreigners on the beach and elsewhere in Zona Sul during Help's peak years. I'm not talking about flirting or seduction of any sort. I'm talking about blatant offers of money for sex. Many asshole foreigners in Rio approached every young, local woman they ran into like a programa girl.

    If I was a Carioca, frankly I would have wanted Help Disco closed.

  12. #17598

    Help

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris561  [View Original Post]
    Club Help indeed is missed greatly. The good and the bad made Help Legendary. A decade later and folks still talk about it. Even Meia Pataca! LOL.

    C5.
    That's the point. Close to a decade after it closed its doors for the last time people are still talking about it. Quite apart from men missing Help I know many GDP who look back with nostalgia to the Help era. Copacabana seriously needs a large disco (small ones already exist like La Dolce Vita and Kalabria). Help was well run, security was good, and drinks were cheap. It was a great environment for the GDP to work in. The other great advantage of Help was that you could move around, as opposed to Balcony and now Mabs which are static in the sense that you get stuck at a table. In Help it was a fluid scene so that if someone irritated you it was easy to move on. It was perfect for those of us that like to keep moving and avoid getting trapped at a table. Personally I like places where you can move around with ease. Incidentally, Vilamimosa also has that fluid movement (although very different to Help).

    I think that Rio remains the best place on earth to monger. If there is a positive aspect to Help's closure it is that many mongers are now more adventurous and realise that there are plenty of options outside of Copacabana.

  13. #17597
    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    Finally someone remembers that opinions re Help were mixed at that time. When I first visited Brazil in 2006 the posts on this board were all over the place regarding Help, some loved it, some hated it etc. Lately I haven't read anything but glowing reviews until this post. I also saw Help as just "a part" of the Rio scene. I think I went to Help 1 time in a week during my first visit. It was ok, but not something I miss today. Actually, for me 4 x4 at that time was a bigger blast than Help. 4 x4 was so crowded with T&A and robed mongers, that I did not even know how small the main room was until years later when it was sufficiently empty to see across the room. Prior to that I had only seen a see of bodies that I had to wade through without any reference point, and I imagined the room was huge.

    A lot of whining about the good old days on this forum, mongering is what you make of it. Today is tomorrows' good old days. Unless of course you are a "Thailand is better hands down" type. The scene evolves, as it has for millenia and will continue to evolve. Some of the brick and mortar places and the big agencies are gone, but indie providers on twitter, tinder and other media are thriving and contacting them via whatsapp has never been easier. Its actually easier to meet semi-pros and newcomers than before. Maybe, the changing scene does not bother me as much because I was always super picky about who I went with, I always put in the leg work or internet research to find the best options for me. I never relied on any one place or scene.
    I loved Help but I only made it inside probably two times per trip. What I enjoyed even more was Terraco Atlntico (the huge open-air patio in front of Help). Nothing like sitting in front of the Ocean eating, drinking and flirting with 200 hookers eyeing you.

    If something close to Terraco Atlntico were to open in Copacabana, I'd schedule a trip immediately.

  14. #17596
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris561  [View Original Post]
    Club Help indeed is missed greatly. The good and the bad made Help Legendary. A decade later and folks still talk about it. Even Meia Pataca! LOL.

    C5.
    You say even Meia Pataca but I remember that also Balcony had some girls at this time. It was great fun to hop on the mini vans that were running all along Avenida Atlantica and to head over to Balcony too, to see more girls than those that were in the obvious Help and Meia Pataca.

  15. #17595

    Sigh

    Talk about nostalgic, I remember when the Rio de Janeiro Reports thread had actual firsthand reports and written by guys with more than a first grader's command of the English language. See Dick fuck. Isn't Dick a good fucker gets old after a few hundred times. Hell, it got old after the first time.

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