Rio de Janeiro Reports

[FuckAfMedDig]

I have been doing my RTFF research for my upcoming first trip to RJ. Please correct me if I am wrong, but it appears that most of the termas and prives / massagems are closed on Sundays. I saw a reference on this thread to Solarium being open on Sundays, but their website says that it is not open on Sundays.

As a first-time visitor to RJ who speaks no Portuguese, I plan to focus on termas, prives, and massagems. Given the circumstances, I am hesitant to pursue independent GDPs in person and online, and I wonder if Vila Mimosa would be a good fit for me even if I did have prior RJ experience and spoke Portuguese, given what I have read about it here. A Sunday will also be my second day in town, so I will not have had much time to collect phone numbers from termas or prive GDPs by that very early point in my trip.

So where do you go on Sundays? I did a search and it seems like Vila Mimosa, Mabs, and Barbarella's are popular options for Sundays. Do you have any other suggestions for a first-time visitor with no Portuguese? Are there any termas, prives, or massagens open on Sundays that I may have missed?

Sunday options are VM, Mabs and clipjoint Barbarella and when you get into Rio, independents, escorts, semis and non P.S. I wouldn't recommend VM for you but if you do go don't talk too much, play it cool, low-key-no big phone, watches, flashing money or being extra gringo. Go and inspect girls, be friendly nd if you like one learn 60,65 for 30 minutes in portugues or 120,130 for 60 minutes. No more. Good luck like Taken 4.

[Mr Enternational]

Funny. I am best friends with currency exchange owner in London plus I have spent a long time in Brazil. Trust me what I am saying is true. I sit down in currency exchange people. What I said earlier about Brazil is true.

Just because you sell dogs or maybe even breed them, does not mean you are a veterinarian.

[Jubby007]

What are you talking about man? Samsung Galaxy? That has nothing to do with comparing costs or currency changes. Sure there can be an amount of price discrimination over different markets, but for the most part that has to do with import taxes.

I still say it is a ridiculous "theory". In 2015 and 2016 when the dollar gained against the euro, did all the FKK owners in Germany start increasing their prices? No fuck shop in country A decides their prices on what is going on in countries B through Z. You guys act like these places are giant corporations. It is a hoarhouse with 30 chicks working there where a guy can go get his rocks off for 40 minutes.

Talk about overthinking. Will someone that has boots on the ground just go ask these guys why they are moving the prices up instead of giving into all the economic theory of hoarhouses stuff.

Funny. I am best friends with currency exchange owner in London plus I have spent a long time in Brazil. Trust me what I am saying is true. I sit down in currency exchange people. What I said earlier about Brazil is true.

[ForceSteeler]

Truth be told, Brazilians look at us like we are crazy when we tell them that we lower prices when an item is not selling. They think we are absolutely crazy for using that model. Makes no sense to them. LOL!!

How is that crazy? That is just basic business 101, or you can even say Common Sense? If you sell a car for $50,000 and people are hardly buying it and demand is weak, What makes you think raising the price to $60,000 going to help you? Basic Business 101 is you drop the price to spark demand and more customers will be interested if they see a deal.

Lets say you run a online store name Jet.com, and your competing against amazon.com. Lets just say both jet.com and amazon.com are losing money? Which Business Strategy Will Work? You own Jet.com and your losing money and you raise the price on your items? And then amazon.com is also losing money but they lower there prices? Lets say a 1 Year goes by. Who do you think is going to make more money? My money is amazon.com will make way more money because they will attract way more customers.

[FuckAfMedDig]

A few girls at Solarium telling me they used to work at MC but moved (back) to Solarium because MC is weak right now. Solarium not that hoppin at 10 pm on a Friday but Friday is more of a family night anyway. 4 x4 surprisingly lacking in girls on a Friday night as well.

40 minutes all-in cash price at Solarium is now BRL 505, including girl / room / entrada.

A GDP ideally likes to work Tuesday to Thursday so they can go out and party Friday and Saturday and spend Sunday with their family / kids etc then sleep that whole sequence off Monday cause they ate too much and drank too many cervejas and Caipirinhas

The more ambitious ones work Monday as well and a bit of Friday but will try and leave early on a friday (before 7-8pm) so they can get home (1+ hours each way or the forward-thinking ones brought change of clothes to work) and change to go out.(I saw 5 GDPs I recognized at Barra Music)

The odd ones carry on after the terma at VM, Mosaico, private clients, Mabs etc.

The desperate work on a saturday (zona sul termas,couple centro trash boates,VM,Mosaico,independents).

The starving ones work on a sunday(VM,independents if theyre bribed right!.

This is not taking rain into consideration.

If it rains that's a wrap for many who stay indoors despite uber etc.

This is so that their hair doesnt get messed up!

DISCLAIMER! This post is not set in stone but based on my headshaking observations/experiences over 22 trips in 4.5 years with a smile! abracos

[Eric Cartman]

A few girls at Solarium telling me they used to work at MC but moved (back) to Solarium because MC is weak right now. Solarium not that hoppin at 10 pm on a Friday but Friday is more of a family night anyway. 4 x4 surprisingly lacking in girls on a Friday night as well.

40 minutes all-in cash price at Solarium is now BRL 505, including girl / room / entrada.

[WyattEarp]

I still say it is a ridiculous "theory". In 2015 and 2016 when the dollar gained against the euro, did all the FKK owners in Germany start increasing their prices? No fuck shop in country A decides their prices on what is going on in countries B through Z. You guys act like these places are giant corporations. It is a hoarhouse with 30 chicks working there where a guy can go get his rocks off for 40 minutes.

Talk about overthinking. Will someone that has boots on the ground just go ask these guys why they are moving the prices up instead of giving into all the economic theory of hoarhouses stuff.

Large, industrialized economies like the U.S. Europe and Japan are not going to have local prices react to short-term currency swings. The impact of currency rates on local economy activity is negligible in the short run in these countries. However in Latin America, Southeast Asia, etc. Not only is the impact of currency felt on local prices quickly, the locals are very well aware of it at street level. Your wealthy Brazilians and many of your middle class Brazilians have offshore accounts in euros and dollars. Your average American, German or Japanese is not paying as much attention to the currency rates because it is unlikely to affect them.

Since prices and currencies are forever dynamic, it's not a quid pro quo relationship. I noticed someone said real estate prices were now falling. I earlier said Real devaluations cause local real estate prices to go up. This is the immediate effect of a large devaluation on a property, say a condo overlooking Ipanema Beach. That same condo can soon have price pressures because of local conditions. Both local price directions can be correct within the same year.

In the late 2000's, locals would have been attacking us on this board for such thoughts. They would argue that the Brazilian economy and currency were unstoppable. Brazil didn't depend on American or European investment or trade anymore. They didn't need us in their pussy markets. Then the global economy popped. Then the China bubble popped. And here we are with a shitty Brazilian economy.

[Rahsta]

The dollar vs Real was bad area 2011 I think. But I think you failed to understand the point that I was making. Brazillian will update prices while comparing with P4P cost in the global market with the global market. For instance, I just bought Samsung Galaxy 8+ in UK for 800 British Pounds and you can purchase it for US $1100 in the USA. It will cost you 3300 Reals in Brazil. The Brazilian p4 p owners are smart enough to update their prices while comparing with the cost and level of sex service in Germany, France, Ukraine etc. Wake up man. They are not stupid anymore. Welcome to Globalization.

Prices are good righr now. Its 3 to 1. If it gets to 4 to 1 it will be even better.

[Rahsta]

I think it was 90 BRL back in June. If you really need to know the exact price give them a call or send an email.

Ok, thanks. Ill be down in 9 days. I have not been to MC in about 4 years.

[Crazy Jim Wood]

It is also done in the USA. When you have operating costs, overhead, etc that are independent of the cost of goods sold, the fewer items you sell, the larger mark up you need on each item in order to cover the fixed costs. When you see items advertised as being marked down "because they are not selling" you should take that explanation with a grain of salt, it might mean they are just taking a cut in profits from an original cost that was inflated. US sellers may also have easier credit than sellers in Brazil which allow them more freedom, such as selling at a loss in order to make monthly payments on loans, in hopes business will pick up later and allow them to recoup losses.

Truth be told, Brazilians look at us like we are crazy when we tell them that we lower prices when an item is not selling. They think we are absolutely crazy for using that model. Makes no sense to them. LOL!!

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[Bravo]

Yeah I never understand Brazilians, If something does not sell or demand is weak, they will raise the price? Its kinda like Google comes out with a product called Google Glass and they sell it for $1,000 at launch and it does not sell, so how does raising the price? Going to help? But again it's the reason Brazil is a 3rd world country.

Truth be told, Brazilians look at us like we are crazy when we tell them that we lower prices when an item is not selling. They think we are absolutely crazy for using that model. Makes no sense to them. LOL!!

[Exec Talent]

Anyway, let's get this thread back to actionable info about finding girls for paid sex in Rio. Deal?

Excellent suggestion or someone who actually knows Brazilians, the Brazilian Economy and Foreign Exchange is going to have to stop the car and take their shoe off.

Now, let's have some FACTUAL firsthand reports.

[Turgid]

The reason Terma owners in Rio keep tweaking prices upwards is because this is the general Carioca response to a crisis.

If they get fewer customers theyll squeeze them to make up the lost profit.

Ask any Brazilian there. Short-termism at its finest. Anything to avoid returning money or discounting.

The ones who are trying to be pro-active are the independents offering more girls for less etc and like the ones i met at Mabs offering me 1.5-2 hours for 150.

Increasing the entry fee towards consumacao is ok but only if you ACTUALLY plan on drinking quite a bit or buying drinks for the garotas etc

Once at MC a girl I picked went to the bathroom for 15 minutes (I shit you not) and I terminated and wanted money back. They fought me tooth and nail offering me free entrance next time despite me spending many many thousands there up till this event.

Only one of the tier 2/3 termas lowered their 1 hour price from 200 to 180 (T3) -everyone else just keeps tweaking it a bit hoping no one will notice! Loool.

Safados.

I don't think termas have a future in Rio beyond the ones who have a following-a good local clientele as well as suplementing with some gringoes (4 x 4 etc) Solarium cause its for rich cariocas who like white girls but can't be bothered going to SP and the lower tier spots with a crowd (MV30 etc) wholl always get some and the rent there isn't alot as its the dark side of Vargas.

Just my 2 centavos.

It seems that in SP its more business as usual in the big termas???? is it because more business men flow through SP-business center of BR etc?

Most of the owners of brothels are not business savvy, their focus is plain and simple to increase profits and are no doubt confused when they do not. Their mindset is as f..ked up as the p..sies they peddle.

[Komo753]

If Ivan and the fat controller in Monte Carlo (good cop / bad cop) want to attract people again make it free to get in or charge a small fee towards consumacao.

Charging nearly 100 reais to get in excludes many and is totally unrealistic,especially considering the very lazy recruitment of girls going on.

I could see it closing by 2018 if it carries on in this vein.

Solarium seems to fare slightly better allthough more expensive and out of curiosity, how is Centaurus getting along?.

If we are on the tier 1 analysis,4 x 4 wasnt bad-Cancun lacked talent as usual and T65 shouldn't have bothered reopening.

Playground already shut (tier 1/ tier 2) again and Cafe Romance there isn't enough feedback on so can't be that great.

Back to the gutter again for me.

T65 and Cancun are waste of time, there are always less girls, I haven't been to Cancun for few week I went there Monday with Beenbob, 4 by 4 is my best terma, more talents, more different girls, very easy to get my dick hard, the girls seem to be more motivated unlike Cancun, the girls are more free they can do what they want ex grab your dick, There are more girls, You can change from terma to whiskeria without having to pay entrance, in cancun the girls are not allowed to grab your dick, every time I go to Cancun, I never fuck, I went many times I only fuck three girls, the girls are unmotivated and tired, the waiters are lazy, Cancun is more for old guys looking for conversation, the girls seem to have no patience, it is as if they prefer the old guys over the young guys so that they can have a lazy fuck. I am not in the terma for conversation or girlfriend experience, I am in the terma because I want the girls to turn me on, I find the girls in 4 by 4 more patient and motivate, I feel more comfortable in 4 by 4.

The only thing that's good in Cancun, the simple rooms are a bit bigger than the simple rooms in 4 by 4 but not the rooms next to smoking area restaurant. The simple rooms that are next to the smoking area are bigger than the simple rooms in Cancun.

I have never been interested in terma in zona sul. The rooms are very small.

T65 I don't need to talk, just try once and never came back again.

Mv30 always dick fest and only ugly girls and fat belly girls. The bar smells [CodeWord140] because of the toilet, impossible to go to toilet everybody smokes there.

502 is good, but it depends on the day, sometimes it is empty sometimes it is full.

In Solarium, better they don't charge entrance for people that session with a girl.

[Eric Cartman]

I just bought Samsung Galaxy 8+ in UK for 800 British Pounds and you can purchase it for US $1100 in the USA. It will cost you 3300 Reals in Brazil. .

I am confused by your math or where it leads you. USD 1,100 at an FX rate of 3. 15 per BRL means that phone should cost more than BRL 3. 400. So buying it for BRL 3. 300 seems like a bargain?

Looking at Kabum.com.br, they seem to be offering it (with boleto discount) for BRL 3. 190.

I just checked Amazon and unlocked international versions seem to be going for between USD 700-800. (Note they may not be exactly the same versions as the BR one on Kabum or your UK ones, but I don't know).

That difference (750 USD = 2362 BRL vs Kabum price) seems to make more sense to me. As others have noted, most of the difference in BR electronics pricing is due to painfully high government-imposed tarrifs designed "to keep BR industry competitive" (but that actually do nothing but increase cost to consumers and hurt, long term, the Brazilian population). You see it everywhere on TVs, washer / dryers, phones, PCs, etc. It has been consistent since I moved here 6+ years ago. The only time you can slightly get ahead of it is when the FX changes quickly (BRL strengthens suddenly) and you can buy before prices adjust (because for imported electronics, they do tend to follow USD pricing).

Anyway, let's get this thread back to actionable info about finding girls for paid sex in Rio. Deal?

I went to MC earlier this week with some visitors in town. Probably about 25 girls and 7-8 guys. Quality is not great but was better than a few months ago, a few slimmer girls. Total cost for 40 minutes with 1 chopp, 1 bottle beer (she bought a heineken, I wanted to shoot her), bottle of water was BRL 504. That's around USD 160 which is kind of high*. I didn't get my free entrada this time so I think that was all-in. Apparently they are remodeling some of the rooms to have showers, I was told.

Granted this was an early day in the week but it wasn't poppin. As others have noted, airfares are high still and reports of violence are keeping a lot of tourists away from Rio. At the same time there are girls on photoacompanhantes who might accept BRL 250-300 from local BR customers refusing to come visit Copacabana for BRL 400. Put in context that my personal trainer makes BRL 100 per hour. A chick won't spend 2 hrs on public transport from Nova Iguazu to Copa to hang out on the deck, drink, and fuck for 2+ hours to get BRL 400. Lazy?

Hope to hit the Dark Side later this week.

(*The recent strength of the BRL vs USD has puzzled me, as it strengthened quickly from ~3.30 about a month or so ago to as low as ~3.12 recently. The BCB keeps saying that the crisis is showing signs of being over, but I don't see it in the day to day. I guess the markets feel BR is getting its house in order with Lula's conviction? Meanwhile the dollar is still super strong against the Euro from what I can see (~1.16) making the BRL's strength even more annoying).
-Cartman.