Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Nordico]

Euro is getting worse and worse, the crisis is bigger in europe. 1 euro for 1 dollar 44 now it is 1 euro for 1 dollar 06 it is too good because buying euros is very cheap, 1 euro for 150 yen in the past now it is 1 euro for 117 yen.

Not quite true. The economy is doing much better now. The main reason for low Euro is ECB printing 60-80 billion Euros every month to stimulate the economy and to get the inflation up (the latter hasn't worked so well).

[WyattEarp]

I assure you reduced demand for coconuts in Brazil will not mean higher prices for coconuts. The kiosko vendors on Copacabana Beach might be able to form a cartel and hold prices at 6 reais on the beach, but as always a short drive to other parts of the city and you will find good coconuts for much lower prices. Most likely prices will be soft and will not keep up with inflation. In fact, I'm also betting that for the same price you will get better quality coconuts. As demand for coconuts is squeezed in the second and third-tier cities, the best coconuts will have a propensity to be shipped to Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. In fact, there are some amazing coconuts already in SP for very good prices with more being shipped to the coconut outlets there day by day. The Brazilian economy is also dependent on exporting natural resources. As the economic crisis persists, more of the top quality coconuts will be shipped abroad factoring in the cost of shipment and related expenses.

Anyone with even limited exposure to economics knows there is no escaping the laws of supply and demand. Local supply and demand conditions take precedence, but the local market will also be exposed to global supply and demand pressures. There can be temporary disruptions to the market like the City of Rio de Janiero limiting the sale of coconuts at the beach, but the market will adjust to this artificial geographic restriction. Barring the entire country of Brazil banning the sale of coconuts, I don't see there being a problem getting high quality coconuts in Brazil at very good prices for the foreseeable future.

[Komo753]

True.

I know 6 who have gone to Madrid and London in last 3 months.

The escape is on.

No gp can really live like before in current climate unless she's very popular with wealthy locals and has someone bancando her. Banking her. Sponsoring.

One girl working in a dump on Uruguyana 210 met a married local who fell for her and is giving her 1200 reais a week for 3 home visits a week while wifey is out of town. She got lucky.

Another is in London making 300 a day in a casa but is going to Vive soon in Madrid where she can make double / triple if lucky.

The problem has nothing to do with Brazil. Rio gets worse and worse, crisis has nothing to do with Rio I remembered when 1 dollar for 4 reais last year the action was better but now the action is getting worse and worse reais was / is getting better but nothing changed for decades. We can't do anything Rio is now dead.

Euro is getting worse and worse, the crisis is bigger in europe. 1 euro for 1 dollar 44 now it is 1 euro for 1 dollar 06 it is too good because buying euros is very cheap, 1 euro for 150 yen in the past now it is 1 euro for 117 yen.

Real is getting better and better if it continues real will be stable but nothing will change, the actions will remain slow in Rio because this year is worse than last year when 1 dollar for 4 reais and something the government closes down brothels in rio for no reasons, they always find some stupid reasons that's why there are less working girls because business people / undertakers / owners don't dare to open any brothel because they don't know what will happen tomorrow / in few days / weeks / months. Because they don't know when the police will knock on their door and say Hi you did something wrong and say now it is time to pay that much or now it is time to close down. This kind of business is no more stable in Rio.

Coconut is a good example, coconuts are cheapest in other areas outside Rio de Janeiro, Copacabana is not Brazil. Life in Brazil did not get more expensive only few things became expensive in some areas in Rio de Janeiro or other popular areas.

What was good in Rio de janeiro, You did not need to pay taxi to get to a brothel, many borthels are in the same area. Sao paulo is still a good place to monger but you need to spend too much for travel fare and to enter the boates. That's why nothing will be as good as Rio was before. Now we can't change anything Rio is dead and will remain dead even if Reais will get better and better. The brothels don't only depend on tourists like coca cola and Mcdonald don't only depend on american people. People with money are everywhere. Many Brazilians take advantage of the crisis and make more money.

[FuckAfMedDig]

You miss the point with my post. Coconuts or GPs, same thing. Different prices in different cities, Northeast being cheaper than Rio.
The coconut- or GP market in Rio (outside of Copacabana) are not dependent of gringo tourists. Has never been and will never be. That market, outside Copacabana, is dependent of the local customers. The crisis in Brazil have lead to the brazilian mongers can't spend so much money on puteiros as they used to. Many puteiros have lost 40% of their income in a short period. That's one reason why we see less puteiros and less GPs.

True.

I know 6 who have gone to Madrid and London in last 3 months.

The escape is on.

No gp can really live like before in current climate unless she's very popular with wealthy locals and has someone bancando her. Banking her. Sponsoring.

One girl working in a dump on Uruguyana 210 met a married local who fell for her and is giving her 1200 reais a week for 3 home visits a week while wifey is out of town. She got lucky.

Another is in London making 300 £ a day in a casa but is going to Vive soon in Madrid where she can make double / triple if lucky.

[The Cane]

What's that got to do with the price of coconuts in copacabana? LOL!

[Mr Enternational]

The coconut- or GP market in Rio (outside of Copacabana) are not dependent of gringo tourists. Has never been and will never be.

You know that foreign mongers always think more highly of themselves than they should. Let them tell it, entire countries are dependent on their monger money.

[Sperto]

Sperto, perhaps I and all of us should send our posts to you beforehand so you can decide what discussions merit consideration. Thanks in advance.

You miss the point with my post. Coconuts or GPs, same thing. Different prices in different cities, Northeast being cheaper than Rio.
The coconut- or GP market in Rio (outside of Copacabana) are not dependent of gringo tourists. Has never been and will never be. That market, outside Copacabana, is dependent of the local customers. The crisis in Brazil have lead to the brazilian mongers can't spend so much money on puteiros as they used to. Many puteiros have lost 40% of their income in a short period. That's one reason why we see less puteiros and less GPs.

[WyattEarp]

gua de coco in Rio cost about R$6. If you go to the Northeast it becomes cheaper. In Fortaleza gua de coco cost R$2,5 but you can have it for R$2 if they are natural (not cold). In Recife the price of gua de coco is R$2. In Natal the price of gua de coco was R$1! I got all excited and bought two at once.

The secret with gua de coco is that the big ones are not necessarily the ones with most milk. The gua de coco vendors can be a bit annoyed when I shake a dozen coconuts before I choose one.

There has been an increase in the coconut prices in Copacabana the last years. I find that very strange as there has been a decline in the gringo tourism. Strange because the most important coconuts customer must be the gringos. No way the locals consume as much coconuts as the gringo tourists. Maybe if the real falls and the gringos comes back in hords there will be coconuts transported from all over Brazil to Rio. It will be just as in the good old days.

How about the coconut prices in Thailand, Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic and Germany? I heard the coconuts in Thailand are very petite and with much less milk than the brazilian coconuts.

Sperto, perhaps I and all of us should send our posts to you beforehand so you can decide what discussions merit consideration. Thanks in advance.

[Komo753]

I'm sorry I think we are having one of those nonsensical arguments where I say Brazilian tan lines are caused by the strong sun and you say no it's because Brazilian girls spend a lot of time at the beach and the pool. You obviously need several conditions to exist.

Trust me, sustained economic difficulties will have an impact on the amount of Brazilian girls making programs. If you read what I said about Rio's Gringoville, we might not see the girls specifically congregating there as they did several years ago. Maybe they show up in prives, maybe they show up in clubs / boates in their home cities. I'm betting some local entrepreneurs working quietly with the local authorities will find a way to expand the business. Very likely, many of the most attractive will head to Western Europe to make programs. This is an avenue that has accelerated in the last ten years. The money is better and it's fairly anonymous for Brazilian women. Why wait for the punting tourists to return in large numbers when you can simply go to them?

The evidence exists in the clubs and the agencies in wealthy European countries. A very high percentage of the girls are from Eastern Europe and Latin America where there are not a lot of economic opportunities.

1 Euro gets worse and worse, there are economic difficulties in Europe, some girls go there to have some opportunities but not everybody is lucky.

2 what is the most attractive for you? Everybody is different, example you are into Asians, In Asia I am only into Japanese girls and Korean girls. I like slim girls I also like curves (big ass or curvy girls).

3) In Europe I did not see many Brazilians, I agree there are some Brazilians working there but just imagine if all attractive Brazilians will go to europe what impact will there be on europe? There are more girls from eastern europe since there is free movement in Europe. I can tell you the most beautiful working girls I met in Europe are in Czech Republic and Slovakia. The price in those two countries is way cheaper than Brazil. Most girls I saw in Holland are not as beautiful as in Eastern Europe. It is very expensive and difficult to travel from Brazil to europe, find accommodation etc, living in another country is not as easy as we think.

4) some girls are beautiful in the beginning but with time they get lazier, uglier and more pro.

5) the most attractive Brazilians work in Sao Paulo, that's why there are some bars with over 300 girls. And many girls from other states, In rio in the past there were many girls from other states.

6) the problem is not from the crisis, the problem is from the government that always changes their policy, now some undertakers don't dare to make business with prostitution acts every time they open a good business they closed down. In the past it was very easy for them to open prostitution business. Maybe they try to clean up rio de janeiro and discourage people from going to Rio for prostitution purpose. Many good places closed down because of the policy. This problem started since hosting world cup and olympics in Rio de janeiro were announced. Many brothels don't only depend on tourists. Many brazilian people have money like many chinese people have money.

7) In Europe, many people are married, have family, or are unemployed or they don't have money to go to prostitutes. Only few people can afford. I can ask you the same thing why paying expensive if they can go to them? Having good vacation in a sunny country far away from their home problems and having sex with some more beautiful girls without nobody from their family and entourage seeing them, many people work months or years just to have vacation not everybody can afford like you or some other people from the forum.

[Sperto]

Água de coco in Rio cost about R$6. If you go to the Northeast it becomes cheaper. In Fortaleza água de coco cost R$2,5 but you can have it for R$2 if they are natural (not cold). In Recife the price of água de coco is R$2. In Natal the price of água de coco was R$1! I got all excited and bought two at once.

The secret with água de coco is that the big ones are not necessarily the ones with most milk. The água de coco vendors can be a bit annoyed when I shake a dozen coconuts before I choose one.

There has been an increase in the coconut prices in Copacabana the last years. I find that very strange as there has been a decline in the gringo tourism. Strange because the most important coconuts customer must be the gringos. No way the locals consume as much coconuts as the gringo tourists. Maybe if the real falls and the gringos comes back in hords there will be coconuts transported from all over Brazil to Rio. It will be just as in the good old days.

How about the coconut prices in Thailand, Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic and Germany? I heard the coconuts in Thailand are very petite and with much less milk than the brazilian coconuts.

[WyattEarp]

Reais have nothing to do even if reais is dropping nothing will change. If reiais will be better the price will be more expensive since reais became cheap terma price went up. Many girls leave terma (no work no money most live far from the terma) because there are not enough clients going to the room everyday. Many guys go to the terma only to spend time and drinks with their buddies. The prives are not as expensive as termas, their price has been remaining stable for many years. The termas will never change price until other termas open even if there will be a new help although new help is shitty and people stopped talking about this business, terma price will never change because terma and help are two different kinds of business. So that the price changes, more new termas must open, more competition. Termas are empty not because of crisis but because there are less termas and less competition so the termas can rise the price as the fancy takes them because nobody can compete with them. Because of that less people are interested in picking girls in terma except few tourists, most people just go there to have a drink, watch and laugh especially brazilians, only the entrance price has remained stable for many years. Now many girls prefer to work for cheaper because they make money for sure so they stay in their area and work in the prives or some small bars in their area. Rio is a big city there are many prives and clubs that are not as famous as places that are not touristy like barra, copa and centro. And known only by people living in the neighborhood but it is impossible to know every place in rio, people only hear copacabana and centro.

I'm sorry I think we are having one of those nonsensical arguments where I say Brazilian tan lines are caused by the strong sun and you say no it's because Brazilian girls spend a lot of time at the beach and the pool. You obviously need several conditions to exist.

Trust me, sustained economic difficulties will have an impact on the amount of Brazilian girls making programs. If you read what I said about Rio's Gringoville, we might not see the girls specifically congregating there as they did several years ago. Maybe they show up in prives, maybe they show up in clubs / boates in their home cities. I'm betting some local entrepreneurs working quietly with the local authorities will find a way to expand the business. Very likely, many of the most attractive will head to Western Europe to make programs. This is an avenue that has accelerated in the last ten years. The money is better and it's fairly anonymous for Brazilian women. Why wait for the punting tourists to return in large numbers when you can simply go to them?

The evidence exists in the clubs and the agencies in wealthy European countries. A very high percentage of the girls are from Eastern Europe and Latin America where there are not a lot of economic opportunities.

[WyattEarp]

I know Brazil and very well Thailand (can't say about other asian countries). Although I am very much in favor of asian girls (the look) I must admit that sexually they are quite passive. This comes from their education (poor sexual fantasy with thai men) and some cultural reluctance to go with strangers (farangs as they use to say for white guys). They also fear the menis size in non-asian clients. So my experience says that for what is sex as such, non it is not the bast place. For friendlness (and look if like me you like the small body type) it's a great place. In Brazil girls are clearly much more sex-oriented but to me latine bodies are often too strong, big bunda and big tits, which is just not my taste. But in bed, they can be great! SO my comment can be summarized as " each one his taste", depends what you are looking for.

Based on the influence of Brazil and Latin America, when I'm in Asia I look for girls with curves and some pop in their ass. The one thing I enjoy about petite Asian girls, if I dare say, is that some can be a bit tighter due to their size.

[Komo753]

I know Brazil and very well Thailand (can't say about other asian countries). Although I am very much in favor of asian girls (the look) I must admit that sexually they are quite passive. This comes from their education (poor sexual fantasy with thai men) and some cultural reluctance to go with strangers (farangs as they use to say for white guys). They also fear the menis size in non-asian clients. So my experience says that for what is sex as such, non it is not the bast place. For friendlness (and look if like me you like the small body type) it's a great place. In Brazil girls are clearly much more sex-oriented but to me latine bodies are often too strong, big bunda and big tits, which is just not my taste. But in bed, they can be great! SO my comment can be summarized as " each one his taste", depends what you are looking for.

Brazil is the best country, you can find any kind of girl (any race and any size unlike Thailand, I saw many slim girls in Brazil maybe in Rio not as easy as before, even caucasian and japanese brazilian girls are not easy to find in Rio everybody knows Rio becomes worser and worser. In sao paulo there are more girls unfortunately there are not termas like Rio. In the past when the scenes were better in Rio, it was so easy to find any kind of girl.

I agree there are more actions in Thailand, why going to a country just to see the actions in redlight and receive a poor performance. Going to Thailand is as if I eat noodle everyday, going to Brazil is as if I receive a great variety of food.

I can say about japanese girls, japanese girls are sexually more open than other asian girls. Sex is a cultural thing in Japan, japanese people have strong sexual fantasy. They often talk about sex there is no taboo.

My next destination Sao Paulo.

[Gannaton48]

Ha ha ha Thailand is funnier than Brazil does not mean that Thailand is more fun. I laugh more in Asia especially at these girls squirming their buttocks in doggy due to their inability to take a good pounding. Its more humorous. In Latin America some girls want more and bang me back when I bang them sometimes hurting my balls.

I know Brazil and very well Thailand (can't say about other asian countries). Although I am very much in favor of asian girls (the look) I must admit that sexually they are quite passive. This comes from their education (poor sexual fantasy with thai men) and some cultural reluctance to go with strangers (farangs as they use to say for white guys). They also fear the menis size in non-asian clients. So my experience says that for what is sex as such, non it is not the bast place. For friendlness (and look if like me you like the small body type) it's a great place. In Brazil girls are clearly much more sex-oriented but to me latine bodies are often too strong, big bunda and big tits, which is just not my taste. But in bed, they can be great! SO my comment can be summarized as " each one his taste", depends what you are looking for.

[Turgid]

That's only true if you're into Asian women. I am not, so no way can Thailand ever surpass Brazil for me. Sure, it's fun! But when it comes to the tutes Brazil is numero uno in my books baby! Nobody, and I mean nobody fucks like a Brasileira! And I am unanimous in this!

Ha ha ha Thailand is funnier than Brazil does not mean that Thailand is more fun. I laugh more in Asia especially at these girls squirming their buttocks in doggy due to their inability to take a good pounding. Its more humorous. In Latin America some girls want more and bang me back when I bang them sometimes hurting my balls.