Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Mongmann]

Every place I have every been there have always been more girls then guys. Most girls are lucky to get a guy a day. I think 6 is a fantasy. Most girls I have known were attractive but all struggled. Getting our money is not easy. We pick the best looking girl all the time. The competition for our dollars is fierce. It is my belief that many girls go home many nights with no action.

But you've never been to Brazil. LOL!

[Mr Enternational]

life is difficult in Brazil that is why many girls sell their ass to pay their bill,

Life must be just as difficult in the USA, Germany, and other places; because many girls sell their ass to pay bills there as well. Curious as to what the men do in these countries in order to pay their bills.

[Komo753]

Every place I have every been there have always been more girls then guys. Most girls are lucky to get a guy a day. I think 6 is a fantasy. Most girls I have known were attractive but all struggled. Getting our money is not easy. We pick the best looking girl all the time. The competition for our dollars is fierce. It is my belief that many girls go home many nights with no action.

True, crisis,

Easy to find girls to fuck, difficult to find clients for money, in the termas many girls make zero, one, two or three clients a week, they have to share money with the terma, life is difficult in Brazil that is why many girls sell their ass to pay their bill, I met many girls complaining about the terma and wanting to leave because they live far and they are tired of travelling everyday for nothing.

Always more girls than guys, many guys just drink and watch the scene, the termas are more and more expensive, less and less guys, maybe if one day they change the price there will be more clients like in the past (gold age) if everybody continues rise the price the crisis will never disappear.

[Mr Enternational]

We're speaking about different scenes.

You are talking about WAY different scenes since he has never been to Brazil.

[Sperto]

Every place I have every been there have always been more girls then guys. Most girls are lucky to get a guy a day. I think 6 is a fantasy. Most girls I have known were attractive but all struggled. Getting our money is not easy. We pick the best looking girl all the time. The competition for our dollars is fierce. It is my belief that many girls go home many nights with no action.

We're speaking about different scenes. "More girls than guys", at privées you normally don't see other clients so I guess you're speaking about termas. Terma-girls might have less business than privê-girls. Btw a privê in centro is in no way dependent of gringos with dollars. Their customers are mainly local guys working in centro.

My calculation might not have been realistic for the average privê-girl. The girls I pick are the best ones I find among roughly 40 centro-privées. Those girls have no problem getting 4-6 clients/day. They propably have better business than the average privê-girl who might only get 2-3 clients/day.

[OldKool]

Every place I have every been there have always been more girls then guys. Most girls are lucky to get a guy a day. I think 6 is a fantasy. Most girls I have known were attractive but all struggled. Getting our money is not easy. We pick the best looking girl all the time. The competition for our dollars is fierce. It is my belief that many girls go home many nights with no action.

Our executive assistant make BRL 5. 5 K per month gross salary to put that in context. So she probably takes home BRL 4 K or less. Yes there is meal benefit and health insurance and 13th salary and FGTS etc on top of that. But she also has to be in the office from 10 am-7 pm every day. Some chick working at VM pulling the same value is doing pretty well.

[Exec Talent]

Our executive assistant make BRL 5. 5 K per month gross salary to put that in context. So she probably takes home BRL 4 K or less. Yes there is meal benefit and health insurance and 13th salary and FGTS etc on top of that. But she also has to be in the office from 10 am-7 pm every day. Some chick working at VM pulling the same value is doing pretty well.

Does your EA have to do any guy with 50 Reais on a sheet that hasn't been changed all day? There is a lot these women give up which is more valuable than money.

[Eric Cartman]

GP salaries is an interesting subject.

In Rio I only monger in prives and VM. When the session is over I often chat with the girls and ask a lot of questions about their life and work as I have a curious nature. The average GP in a centro priv have about 4-6 clients/day. Assume she's a Dudas girl and she makes four 1 h sessions at R$150/session, receiving 50%, she'll earn R$300/day. Roughly R$6000/month. Not bad at all.

Our executive assistant make BRL 5. 5 K per month gross salary to put that in context. So she probably takes home BRL 4 K or less. Yes there is meal benefit and health insurance and 13th salary and FGTS etc on top of that. But she also has to be in the office from 10 am-7 pm every day. Some chick working at VM pulling the same value is doing pretty well.

[Komo753]

I went to 132 before going to 119, the club is very strange, only guys only 2 girls, and then in 119 (27 girls) Thursday and Friday are the best days to monger in the center, just avoid 132. New 81 opens at 2 o'clock but better to go from 5 pm because it is empty from 2 pm.

[Member #4732]

GP salaries is an interesting subject.

In Rio I only monger in prives and VM. When the session is over I often chat with the girls and ask a lot of questions about their life and work as I have a curious nature. The iaverage GP in a centro priv have about 4-6 clients/day. Assume she's a Dudas girl and she makes four 1 h sessions at R$150/session, receiving 50%, she'll earn R$300/day. Roughly R$6000/month. Not bad at all.

An average decent VM-girl might have 5 clients/day. Charging R$60/session, R$5 is casa fee, she'll earn R$275/day. Roughly R$5500/month. Almost like a priv-girl, but the VM girl has to deal more with filthy clients and less comfort.

A good-looking (endangered species) Mab's girl who manages to trick gringos maybe get 1 client/day. If the gringo is stupid enough she might charge R$250. As GPs oriented to gringos are lazy she propably just work 3 days/week, meaning she'll earn roughly about R$3000/month. Less than a hardworking priv- or VM-girl.

Of course there are a lot of exceptions of GPs that gets way more clients and earn way more. The majority propably spend their money just as quick as they earn them. Support family/kids (no father), University fees, beauty salons, silicon tits/ass, clothes, phones or drugabuse.

Good figures, but I have doubts that the average clinica / prive GP has 4-6 clients per day. That might apply to a few top girls but in today's market I think most do less. I have had many that I consider top girls complain that they have gone days with zero or 1 client. That is why so many move around from place to place be / see they are searching for more "movimento". I knew a girl at Delirio, one of the biggest and most active places in copa, and she said a day with 4-6 clients was only typical for the first few weeks at most when the girl is the "new attraction". After that, action drops precipitously. On top of that, the girls are constantly paying the house for things like their photos, the photo hosting fees, condoms and towels fees, and strong fines for arriving late or missing a day. Its quite hard for women with children or students to avoid these fines which degrade their earnings.

[Sperto]

GP salaries is an interesting subject.

In Rio I only monger in privées and VM. When the session is over I often chat with the girls and ask a lot of questions about their life and work as I have a curious nature. The average GP in a centro privê have about 4-6 clients/day. Assume she's a Dudas girl and she makes four 1 h sessions at R$150/session, receiving 50%, she'll earn R$300/day. Roughly R$6000/month. Not bad at all.

An average decent VM-girl might have 5 clients/day. Charging R$60/session, R$5 is casa fee, she'll earn R$275/day. Roughly R$5500/month. Almost like a privê-girl, but the VM girl has to deal more with filthy clients and less comfort.

A good-looking (endangered species) Mab's girl who manages to trick gringos maybe get 1 client/day. If the gringo is stupid enough she might charge R$250. As GPs oriented to gringos are lazy she propably just work 3 days/week, meaning she'll earn roughly about R$3000/month. Less than a hardworking privê- or VM-girl.

Of course there are a lot of exceptions of GPs that gets way more clients and earn way more. The majority propably spend their money just as quick as they earn them. Support family/kids (no father), University fees, beauty salons, silicon tits/ass, clothes, phones or drugabuse.

[Komo753]

BRL 8K per month is really about BRL 10.6K a month if you were working for a company, as companies deduct income tax ( 25%) and the GDPs never report their income so they don't pay tax. That is, their BRL 8K free and clear is equivalent to around a salary of BRL 10.6K. The one difference being that salaries come with mandatory items like contribution to FGTS retirement / unemployment (8%) and vacation / vacation bonus / 13th salary ... and in some companies, maybe health/dental. Then again, many BR mongers will blow their 13th salary in the termas / on the GDPs, so it's all trickle down.

BRL 10 K is the realm we pay for junior or mid level software developers, so these GDPs aren't doing half bad. Think of that next time they ask you to pay their frickin taxi LOL.

Many garotas don't make 8 k per month, I went to termas I saw many girls that did not find any client, in the terma you will always see more girls than guys, many guys don't fuck and just chill, sometimes they say they earn so much just to make us believe she is worth too much we have pay more, we are in Brazil, you find working girls in every corner, only the gringos are crazy to pay high price only for the girl, the termas are more expensive, because the facility is good, the room quality, the security, the cleanliness, the service, they have to pay taxes, the termas are for high class Brazilians, the termas in zona sul is more expensive because of the location, renting is more expensive.

I will never pay high price for a freelancer because we never know what will happen the time, the service etc, what I noticed in Brazil, paying less the service is better paying more the service is worse.

[Eric Cartman]

But now makes between 7 and 8 due to the lack of clientele. Not sure how this stacks up to a true freelancer, but I'm guessing it's pretty competitive if not better from an earnings perspective. The girls are getting about 300/ h (250 for 40 min, I think), and will do 2 or 3 in a shift. The drawback, I guess, is the lack of freedom as you do have to show up for work.

BRL 8K per month is really about BRL 10.6K a month if you were working for a company, as companies deduct income tax ( 25%) and the GDPs never report their income so they don't pay tax. That is, their BRL 8K free and clear is equivalent to around a salary of BRL 10.6K. The one difference being that salaries come with mandatory items like contribution to FGTS retirement / unemployment (8%) and vacation / vacation bonus / 13th salary ... and in some companies, maybe health/dental. Then again, many BR mongers will blow their 13th salary in the termas / on the GDPs, so it's all trickle down.

BRL 10 K is the realm we pay for junior or mid level software developers, so these GDPs aren't doing half bad. Think of that next time they ask you to pay their frickin taxi LOL.

[BackDoorD]

Keep in mind that BackDoorD was giving advice from an escort's perspective in response to an inquiry from a friend of an escort asking which sites were best to advertise her services.

As a client, I have had good luck with www.amantesecia.com.br.

There is a lot of turnover so this is a good way to see the new girls. I have found the photos pretty accurate also. I usually call ahead and make an appointment. You will need to speak Portuguese or have someone who speaks Portuguese make the appointment for you.

As a monger, if you're looking for variety and good value, amantesecia.com.br is great. New adds almost daily and it's an easy way to get a sense of which prives in Centro are worth checking out. However, most of the amantesecia girls are in the 150-250/ h range. There are some outliers, and you can certainly find some great value gems with photos that match up to reality, but the girls aren't going to be pulling in a lot of cash.

I spoke to a girl who works at Solarium recently who told me that two years ago she was pulling in 12-15 k / month in the terma, but now makes between 7 and 8 due to the lack of clientele. Not sure how this stacks up to a true freelancer, but I'm guessing it's pretty competitive if not better from an earnings perspective. The girls are getting about 300/ h (250 for 40 min, I think), and will do 2 or 3 in a shift. The drawback, I guess, is the lack of freedom as you do have to show up for work.

[BackDoorD]

Thanks for thoughtful reply. Did you get those unique view traffic stats from a particular site that you can share?

I am also a Rio resident and an active user on forumx. I normally encourage any freelancer in Rio to start a linha direta on forumx. The problem, for my friend, is as you noted, that forumx culture is pretty firmly against any girl that charges more than 200 with very few exceptions. Anyone asking 300-400 is somewhat of a pariah there. Her experience there was that she received a lot of time wasting zap chatters. I personally, prefer riocencontro be / see its easy to peruse, new girls show up at the bottom of page, and they have more of my preferred type, mulata and morena. Hotside, has very little turnover of girls. I thought it was in decline from its heyday, circa 2008, but judging by your stats it still seems like king. Riosexsite is just plain frustrating unless you subscribe, which I don't. Overall, despite, or because of the crisis, the turnover in girls advertising in general is the lowest I have ever seen it. Even sites like espacoterapias and vivalocal have very very little new talent. Strange environment really. I know some girls working tinder exclusively.

Cheers.

http://hotside.com.br.websiteoutlook.com/ These guys are pretty useful. However, simply google the full website name plus the words "traffic stats" will yield a variety of results. I personally like websiteoulook because of it's click-based site valuations (the valuation offered has nothing to do with the amount of revenue hot side generates from advertisers).

I know a few girls who've done OK using the casual encounters section of craigslist (https://alicelince.wordpress.com/sobre/), as only foreigners tend to use. Also, the foreigners who use it tend to be between 35 and 50. Best of luck.