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  1. #15066

    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Soldierb11  [View Original Post]
    I've said that to many guys in Colombia before but now I think more about it I am starting to change my mind. Sure I prefer to pay after but I don't sweat it now. This is a trip to Brasil for me not a Brasilian vacation. The difference is I'm not here for 7 days and then going back to the States to work. 90% of my life is a vacation. Last 6 months I've taken two trips to Thailand / Philippines, 2 to Brasil and 6 to Colombia. So if I have a bad session or two because I paid up front it's not a big deal like it is for some guy here for a week and then 6 months back in sexual purgatory.

    I've paid in advance and gotten bad service and I've paid in advance twice this trip and got fucked crazy porn style. I've paid after and gotten bad service before as well as paying after and getting great service. For me paying before or after isn't making much of a difference.

    And what's your play if you are a pay after guy and she was below average? Not pay her? Pay her less than the agreed on fee? Then what? She's immediately on the phone threatening to call the police, security, her pimp etc. Then just to avoid the attention of the police you pay her the agreed on fee to get the fuck out of your room and life.
    I feel the same way. My buddy who is a 10 Year Monger vet and goes on South America Trips 2 x every month gets pissed when I tell him there were times when I paid up front. Yes I understand most don't get money up front. But I do understand why they would want it upfront. They are giving up their bodies to someone they know 5 minutes. The first time I didn't pay up front the girl got pissed and thought I didn't have it. We then compromised and I pulled the money out and set it on the dresser to take "after" sex. I would say in Rio only 1-2 girls out of 10 ask for it anyways. And when this has happened and I've given them the money they are very happy to see that wad that's more than most make in a month. When I have paid up front the experience has been kick ass. The last girl I was with in Colombia was on par with a supermodel and one of the best all time lays ever (see last field report). She asked for the money up front. I paid her for 2 hours -she stayed for 4 hours and fucked my brains out and would of stayed the night but I wanted to sleep and kicked her out. Do you think that would of happened if I said "no"? Well with me probably because I'm ridiculously good looking. So unfair question but you get my drift. I think many times the experience you actually have comes down to the chemistry and attraction that is created regardless of when you pay. Think about it. Your a hooker and walk in and see some old fart out of shape safado who has zero charisma or charm. Your going to want the money up front too so at least you can feel happy about something before you let that Viejo stick it in you! I think ultimately one should make a judgment call. Feel her out first. If she asks then make the call. Like my man says here. "What are you going to do -short change her for performance and then let her make a scene and call the cops"? Will her performance "really improve" by holding back? If she doesn't like you it won't matter and she will be out of there in 59 minutes anyways.

  2. #15065
    Quote Originally Posted by PatmarBeleza1  [View Original Post]
    Pretinha, pictures 2 of 3.
    Very nice Patmar!

    Thanks for the photos!

    Bom trabalho!

  3. #15064
    The more I read on this forum the more I understand when friends tell me better not to share too much detailed info on this forum.

  4. #15063
    Hey guys, yall don't know me yet, but I've been lurking on these boards doing research for my upcoming Brazil experience. I'll be there 3/2-3/23. I'm not new to ISG, as you can see from my post count. I'm also active on the Argentina boards under a similar user nm.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    Spent 3 weeks in Rio in January. Alicia, blonde, 21, very pretty, slim, flat hard stomach, perfect small be tits, small squeezable ass.
    I'm jealous soooo bad! Great catch, my friend hehe.

    Quote Originally Posted by EricCartman  [View Original Post]
    Which brings me back to this: when people say "Hey fuck you, Cartman, I'll pay what I want (or how I want)" I wrote this post with some helpful info in it (at least I think) to at least stay true to the goal. On that note, some final context: the minimum wage in Brazil in 2016 is BRL 880 per month.
    Yes sir, its MY hot body, and I'll do what I want. Which is to listen to your sage advice good sir. As somebody who has yet to go to Brazil, thank you so much for that post. You help to clear the path for your brothers behind you.

    Quote Originally Posted by PipeLayer99  [View Original Post]
    I was telling him I only pay 150 to 200 max for all night. And I showed him and introduced him to a few of the girls that I already had for that price. He just didn't care because he was on vacation for a week. Whats worse, he claimed that he negotiates contracts for work on a daily basis! So I don't really understand WTF was wrong with him other than the fact that he probably can't get ass back home.
    From my observations there are a number of inter-related factors behind this. Its not complicated, but it is complex.

    So I have a question for my forum brothers. Is there anywhere else worth going to other than Rio, or should I just spend my entire 3 week stay on Ipanema? Outside of sexin' in the bedroomz wif strange wimmin, I want to surf, yoga, and indulge café culture on the beach. The other amazing experiences Brazil has to offer are probably better enjoyed with company, if I can find someone to share long term time with. What other places have sex, surf, yoga, and restaurant culture? Should I even bother with anywhere else? Help!

  5. #15062
    Quote Originally Posted by Sperto  [View Original Post]
    After today propably no priv will open before earliest Wednesday at noon. Wednesday will be a bad priv-day. Many girls will be missing work and many mongers will visit the prives to get laid.
    The coming days are perfect days going for regular girls.

    P.S Don't miss the largest bloco in centro tomorrow, Bola Preta. About one million people partying, dancing, drinking, pissing, pushing and fighting in the streets. Leave nothing in your pockets. Put everything inside your underwear and you'll be fine.

    P.P.S Be careful on the buses when sitting next to the windows. I've seen several robberies lately. When the bus stops at a red light a guy jumps up to the bus windows and snatches bags and phones.

    P.P.S My guess about this years Carnival hit is Metralhadora:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzCoZGsod0c8

    Happy Carnival to everybody!
    Hell yeah-there are so many girls at bloccos everyone will have a chance.

  6. #15061
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Hey amigos,

    Nnew to the Forum but not to the game.

    Hit VM the other night, I believe it was a Tuesday.

    I've grown fond of the place, though it's certainly not for everyone.

    I've made my share of friendships with some girls there, over time, as well.

    The usual fare of garotas, from butt fugly to pretty damn hot, with the majority of the girls somewhere in between.

    The point of this post is actually a heads up to guys.

    While in a room with a garota the other night, a cute one I've never seen before, I caught her trying to rifle through my belongings to rob me.

    I called her out on it, she denied it, though I caught her red handed.

    Funny though, I was pretty horny and she was hot, so I still did the deal. Afterwards though, I badgered her to she finally admitted of her attempted thievery, and then she cried.

    And begged me not to tell the dude in charge of her little bar area.

    Keep alert guys, I know it's obvious to say, but they can be tricky in their thievery.
    Yes I've stated this before! I know a couple of thieves amongst the gdps there-I will get names.

    I keep my shorts around my ankles-don't take everything off! This is VM. Someone can pop in and snatch shit-some of the doors have no lock left! LOL.

    I had to get an Iphone 6 back for a norwegian tourist friend who was careless. It cost 100 reais in the end. Down from 1000. Shit got very heavy but its been worse there! Still love it-always have more joy on the righ side of the front line road as opposed to the alleyways.

  7. #15060

    Well done

    You are right on the mark!

    Thanks for sharing. I wish hundreds of other guys would pay attention. Life would be better for all of us fuckers.

    I remember this one guy I met in Rio (back in 2008) who was paying 400 reals for TLN. I was telling him I only pay 150 to 200 max for all night. And I showed him and introduced him to a few of the girls that I already had for that price. He just didn't care because he was on vacation for a week. Whats worse, he claimed that he negotiates contracts for work on a daily basis! So I don't really understand WTF was wrong with him other than the fact that he probably can't get ass back home.

    Quote Originally Posted by EricCartman  [View Original Post]
    ...
    Again, I know people just don't care. It's my analogy below about the guys who leave the lights and AC on in our conference rooms, because they don't have to pay the company's electric bill. They are selfish pricks who don't give a shit, and then whine if they can't get more free cookies in the break room or that 20% raise, when the company's budget can't handle it. Or it's the guy who pisses in the pool and gets out -- a nice warm experience for him, but not so great for the other swimmers and / or the next guy who dives in.
    But I try to offer helpful advice here (don't pay up front, don't pay more than BRL $300-$500 for an escort unless she's doing bareback anal and making you breakfast at the same time, etc). I'm not saying only pay BRL 70 for girls you pull out of VM. I'm trying to orient you to the market and not overpay -- you're certainly welcome to pay less.
    I do so in the sense of helping others. When you overpay or pay up front, you are not helping others. You are not helping your brothers in arms on this board. You are helping (at best) only yourself.
    I wrote this post with some helpful info in it (at least I think) to at least stay true to the goal. On that note, some final context: the minimum wage in Brazil in 2016 is BRL 880 per month. Brazil is literally in its worst economic downturn in years ....
    -Cartman.

  8. #15059
    After today propably no privę will open before earliest Wednesday at noon. Wednesday will be a bad privę-day. Many girls will be missing work and many mongers will visit the privées to get laid.
    The coming days are perfect days going for regular girls.

    P.S Don't miss the largest bloco in centro tomorrow, Bola Preta. About one million people partying, dancing, drinking, pissing, pushing and fighting in the streets. Leave nothing in your pockets. Put everything inside your underwear and you'll be fine.

    P.P.S Be careful on the buses when sitting next to the windows. I've seen several robberies lately. When the bus stops at a red light a guy jumps up to the bus windows and snatches bags and phones.

    P.P.S My guess about this years Carnival hit is Metralhadora:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzCoZGsod0c8

    Happy Carnival to everybody!

  9. #15058
    Quote Originally Posted by EricCartman  [View Original Post]
    For those not familiar with What'sApp groups (particularly people in the USA and Europe or Asia where it's not as popular as Brazil), it is an Instant Messaging smartphone app that *everyone* in Brazil uses for messaging.

    For the past 3-4 years, what's app consistently has been in the top 4 most-downloaded apps in Brazil. Only recently (like last 3+ months) has Snapchat even cracked the Top 10. So these girls all join What'sApp chat groups that have hundreds of GDP members where they trade stories about clients, silly stuff like dick pics, GIFs, etc.


    Again, I know people don't care. I debated with myself about 30 minutes about writing this. This is my last word on the subject, as arguing with folks on the internet is about as worthwhile as trying to get Trump to give up the comb-over. "Your reasoned argument and clever Facebook posts have convinced me to change my opinion" -- said nobody on the internet *ever.*

    -Cartman.
    WhatsApp is one of the best apps every created. I use it with friends at home and GDP abroad. All the girls use it. I even noticed they all used it on a recent trip to Amsterdam. All the window girls were communicating. Anyways, thanks to guys like Cartman who have the local knowledge we all wish we had and are willing to share. I will be down next month but won't make it to Rio. I would love to meet you guys one day. Either way you look at it, this site is incredibly valuable. Keep up the good work gents.

  10. #15057

    Pretinha, pictures 2 of 3

    Pretinha, pictures 2 of 3.
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  11. #15056

    Tranquilo gente Calma Calma

    Sith Lord Vader Cartman has grown authoritarian now in his 6th straight year of whoring in Rio.

    Soldier has sent jihadis to their 72 virgins, lacking dicks entao, welcome, I offer my private reserve by email and zap.

    Send us your whatsapp to ho with the pretinha attached; pretinha, such a nice Portuguese word, avoiding a pejorative, and with it stupid arguments.

    Sith corrupted Jedi Cartman is right, obi wan Patmarbeleza pores over gpguia like grunts pores over buttman mags in the desert combat jacking.

    GPguia may be an offensive information operations weapon too.

    The best ones are from prives, 18 yo, new to business, they become pernoites at 400 r, 6 days a week; 18 yo morena clara anal.

    Cartman Vader, we'll meet again; we should buy Soldier a working girl for sending jihadis to virgins without their balls; thereafter, intergalactic war again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soldierb11  [View Original Post]
    First of all, I've never said fuck you Cartman I will do what I want. It's not my style. You have valuable insight and guidance and I consider it before I make my decisions just like I consider other people's opinions and advice too. I then however make up my own course of action. I've never even argued with you or said you are wrong because you really aren't. I just choose to walk my own path in life.

    Second of all if you bothered to read the subsequent reports I paid 300/400/350/350 so quite in line with market rates.
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  12. #15055

    Vila Mimosa

    Hey amigos,

    Nnew to the Forum but not to the game.

    Hit VM the other night, I believe it was a Tuesday.

    I've grown fond of the place, though it's certainly not for everyone.

    I've made my share of friendships with some girls there, over time, as well.

    The usual fare of garotas, from butt fugly to pretty damn hot, with the majority of the girls somewhere in between.

    The point of this post is actually a heads up to guys.

    While in a room with a garota the other night, a cute one I've never seen before, I caught her trying to rifle through my belongings to rob me.

    I called her out on it, she denied it, though I caught her red handed.

    Funny though, I was pretty horny and she was hot, so I still did the deal. Afterwards though, I badgered her to she finally admitted of her attempted thievery, and then she cried.

    And begged me not to tell the dude in charge of her little bar area.

    Keep alert guys, I know it's obvious to say, but they can be tricky in their thievery.

  13. #15054

    January Rio Trip Highlights

    Spent 3 weeks in Rio in January. Stayed at 2 airbnb apartments in Centro to be near the prive and termas action (one was around the corner from MV 30) and have somewhere to go back to in between sessions rather than have to go back to Copa each time, as well as they being significantly cheaper than ones in Copa.

    Casa 14, VM 72 real /30 minutes.

    Ruiva, 21, redhead, very cute, great ass and tits. See my previous VM reports.

    Room 1708, Rio Branco 185 90/30, 140/60 (cannot extend from 30 minutes to 60 minutes by paying the 50 real difference, have to pay 100 for another 30 minute session).

    Patrizia, Brunette, 22-24, little chubby, nice face and tits, great ass. DFK as soon as she entered the room in first session, OK with dry humping from front and rear, digits OK, loved massage and DATY, good BBBJ, enthusiastic fucking, came or very good fake, CIM included in service but anal +50 and AO +2000 (as in "no way, Jose"). Sessioned 4 times with her; would have sessioned more but she left to visit family at end of my second week.

    Room 1439, Rio Branco 156 100/30, 150/60 (can extend from 30 minutes to 60 minutes by paying the 50 real difference).

    Sabrina, 18, pixie face, perfect petite body, DFK, digits OK, anal +50, CIM free first session, wanted 30 the second session.

    Renata, redheaded mulatta, pleasant face, rolls her eyes when she comes, DFK and digits, loved anal (+50), CIM included in session, very accommodating to what you want. Saw her in November and sessioned with her 4 times this trip.

    Room 725, Rio Branco 185 70/20, 90/30, 120/60.

    Poliana, Blonde, 28, beautiful face, soft but great body, DFK and digits, loves anal (included in hour session, otherwise extra), BBBJ but no CIM, DFK, loved massage and DATY. Four great sessions, very nice woman.

    Room 707, Rua do Ouvedor 130 70/30, 90/40, 140/60 (can extend session by paying difference between the shorter and longer session).

    Made the mistake of not going to this place until the end of my second week there. Very friendly and accommodating prive (the older woman who runs the place seemed to love me and invited me to stay at her place for free the next time I came to Rio, although I think it was because of the chocolates I gave her and the girls during my visits). Some fat girls, but a few good ones.

    Kelly, mid-20's, Brunette, 5'10", nice face, perfect (fake) tits, unbelievable ass (big and firm). DFK, anal, digits, and CIM included in service. Fantastic sessions.

    Miuki, Blonde, OK face, nice tits, great ass. No anal but DFK, CIM and digits included. Very nice session.

    Duda, brunette, bit of a belly but nice face and tits, very nice, big, ass. Anal, DFK, digits, and CIM included. Very nice session.

    210 Rua Uruguaiana 45/15, 55/20, 80/30, 90/40, 140/60 (can extend session by paying difference between the shorter and longer session).

    First night of my arrival, I went to Rua the Quintanda 81, where I had two nice girls in November, but no one interested me, so went to 119 Rua the Alfandega (which is owned by the same people as Rua the Quintanda 81 and, as I discovered later, 210 Urugaiana). A fairly attractive black girl set her sights on me and spent so much time grinding me trying to get me to go to the room with her that I finally went with her just to end it. Session turned out OK.

    Next night I went back to see who else might be there and saw a slim, pretty blonde, but she was with a guy all the time I was there so I gave up waiting for her and went to 210 Rua Uruguaiana. Lots of girls, some fatties and uggos, but about 5-6 surprisingly attractive ones (a couple of which I sessioned with), especially a slim blonde (Alicia) who was with this black guy the whole time I was there but never went to the room with him. Around midnight, the blonde and some other girls from 119 Rua the Alfandega showed up, so Rua Uruguaiana seems to be the late night spot for some of the girls at 119. Went with the blonde that showed up from 119 for 40 minutes and had a very nice session (could not repeat as she left for her home town the next day).

    Alicia, blonde, 21, very pretty, slim, flat hard stomach, perfect small be tits, small squeezable ass.

    Went back late on Monday night and Alicia was there again but was busy dancing and hanging out with the other girls. Finally had the room assignment guy call her over to chat with me. After some chit chat asked her about her services. Was told no kissing, no anal, only CBJ. Somewhat disappointed with this, but still wanting to fuck her, I went with her for a 20 minute session. Session was very nice and GFE despite no kissing (she was more of a neck nuzzler) and I really enjoyed her body next to mine.

    Went back the next night and had a 40 minute session with her, which was even better, with her being very affectionate and caring, and my having a relaxed, comfortable feeling just lying there, her on top of me with my dick in her pussy, nuzzling my neck, and with my arms wrapped around her or massaging her ass. Since I had not been impressed with the talent at Cancun and 4 x4 in November (Alicia being as good as or better than the termas girls at less than 1/2 the price), I could get my porn fix (anal, BBBJ, CIM) at prives during the day, and I really liked her body and sweetness, I basically decided to end my weekday nights with a session with her, and thus had a total of 10 sessions with her, each getting better as she got more comfortable with me. If you want an excellent evening session (even with her service limitations) with a really sweet girl with a slamming, slim body at a very reasonable price, I highly recommend Alicia (although she will be gone this week and next week to recuperate from sinus surgery).

    One tip to get the girls and receptionists to really like you showing up is to bring some candy from overseas. I brought some chocolate bars I got in Germany and some bags of chocolate covered nuts from Costco and would give out some to the girl I went with, who would then share them with the other girls there. They really loved the chocolate and would eagerly ask when I showed up if I had brought some more, which I always did.

  14. #15053

    Next victim from hotside

    Next up-- Thai.

    http://hotside.com.br/acompanhantes-...a/rj/thai/2145

    First girl that I had over to my hotel. All escorts have offered but I've gone to their places so far. I liked her natural little spinner body online and thought it would be a nice contrast to several of the recent silicones. Face also looked cute trying to deduce between the blurred out images. When I answered the door I was ecstatic. She was in fact really fucking cute beating the top girl from Barbarella and her body looked delicious in jeans shorts and a top with the top two buttons undone showing small but perky little breasts. I wanted to maul her right away but I decided to "Pull a Patmar".

    Of course there are huge differences since I am in my hotel and not cooking a nice fish dinner for the lady but the concept remains the same- Make the girl comfortable, make her enjoy herself and she will stay longer. Same idea world over. In Medellin make the girl happy by taking her dancing. In the Philippines take her to Karaoke and she won't leave you alone. Now with an escort this was dangerous as an hour for 350 reais was agreed upon but game on.

    I had room service deliver prior some kind of appetizer plate with some empanada like things fried cheese and a couple of other weird things. Offered her a drink, she choose a Guarana and I had a red bull and we started talking and showing pictures from our phones and eating / drinking. Time for music, I gave her my iPad after I opened YouTube and told her to pick the music. At this point we are past the 35 minute mark and two things could happen 1. She asks for more money since she stayed longer or 2. She enjoys herself and stays longer.

    The kissing begins slowly and goes on for two songs without any clothes coming off. I'm thinking we are definitely going to go way over an hour and good thing I hit the ATM. Both our shirts come off and I'm all over her little perky breasts for another two songs. Shorts come off and I'm on top of her and we are making out again and dry humping each other with the underwear still on. I kiss myself down to her little pink panties and pull them off and feel them. Yes a little wet. I then started licking her and she was either enjoying it or was prolonging the session so she could collect a second hours payment because I was eating her for way more than 5 songs without her initiating any changes. She orgasms once, twice perhaps? And she starts blowing me. Not good. Very toothy. Had to cut that off after a few minutes. The condom goes on and despite the painful BJ, I am still rock hard and she goes for reverse CG. Very nice beginning, love the view of her tan little ass then instead of leaning back towards me she moves forward so her head is by my feet. Definite no-go with a fully erect penis. I thought she was going to break my shaft for sure. I am wincing and in pain but still staring at her ass. Thank the lord we switch to cowgirl and then when she tires we head to missionary. At this point I'm ready to cum so I ask her where. Sadly she answers tits and not the slutty in my mouth answer I like. Oh well. I cum on her tits and she then proceeds to play with the cum for a couple of minutes swirling it all over her left nipple.

    We showered separately and then back to bed to talk and look at more pictures. I then asked her if she wanted to go to the Sambodrome tomorrow night because I have tickets. She smiled and accepted but was just worried about taxis and how will we get home. I assured her I would get us a driver so no worries. At this point we hit the two hour mark and although I enjoy her company especially since she is still naked. I'm itching to hit the beach to run and do pull-ups so I start getting dressed and she does like wise. We had agreed on 350+ taxi so I hand her 400 and she sticks it in her purse and off she goes.

    Overall- very attractive girl with all natural body. Skills in the bedroom a little behind the others but still a very good time. Was able to swing some extra time with her by Pulling a Patmar albeit it was a very scaled down version.

    It's what I tell guys clamoring for GFE in Colombia. If you want GFE give the girls BFE.

  15. #15052
    Quote Originally Posted by EricCartman  [View Original Post]
    Which brings me back to this: when people say "Hey fuck you, Cartman, I'll pay what I want (or how I want)"

    But I try to offer helpful advice here (don't pay up front, don't pay more than BRL $300-$500 for an escort unless she's doing bareback anal and making you breakfast at the same time, etc).

    -Cartman.
    First of all, I've never said fuck you Cartman I will do what I want. It's not my style. You have valuable insight and guidance and I consider it before I make my decisions just like I consider other people's opinions and advice too. I then however make up my own course of action. I've never even argued with you or said you are wrong because you really aren't. I just choose to walk my own path in life.

    Second of all if you bothered to read the subsequent reports I paid 300/400/350/350 so quite in line with market rates.

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