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[UniversalX]

Wonder if they are going to refund the money or just keep working on the ones they have in line?

https://cbn.globo.com/politica/notic...ra-abril.ghtml

The Brazilian Embassy in Miami website or the https://brazil.vfsevisa.com/ website show no change / update. I would not yet take the news article as official notification of record. If you're traveling soon verify with Brazilian Embassy.

However if this postponement will happen what happens to individuals who have recieved thier e-Visa?

Or individuals in process but not yet issued (do they get refund or will it still be processed / issued)?

[Anaggie]

Wonder if they are going to refund the money or just keep working on the ones they have in line?

https://cbn.globo.com/politica/notic...ra-abril.ghtml

[Nounce]

What a waste of time and money!

[The Critic]

"Former president Jair Bolsonaro had scrapped the visa requirements in 2019 to bolster the country's tourism industry, but the four countries continued to demand visas from Brazilians. Bolsonaro criticized the decision last week after the news outlet G1 first reported the upcoming change. "Another revocation by Lula. Less jobs and less stimulus of the hotel sector," he said on Twitter. " So yes it was taken away to boost travel, but put back because other countries would not take their requirement away.

https://apnews.com/article/brazil-us...5484b99a807971

The initial visa wavers were announced during the Dilma Rousseff / Michel Temer Administration for the 2016 Rio Olympics. The waver was kept in place extended through the Michel Temer Administration when he replaced Dilma Rousseff who was kicked out of office a few weeks prior to the commencement of the 2016 Rio Olympics. When Jair Bolsonaro replaced Michel Temer, Jair Bolsonaro did indeed formally scrapped the visa requirement. And of course, since Lula replaced Jair Bolsonaro, Lula has indeed formally reinstated the visa requirement as a reciprocity / punitive issue.


https://www.cntraveler.com/stories/2...il-this-summer

During the entire period US to Brazil tourism did not increases (as hoped by tourism boards and the hospitality industry) primary due to IMHO media scares of Dengue Fever and Zika virus outbreak prior, during, and after 2016 Olympics in addition to the Global COVID pandemic. Also add Media increasingly reporting Crime waves/scares. Resulting in the perception of Brazil as a dangerous country.

[The Cane]

I just flew out of GRU to MIA on the 1st. It took way over an hour to get through 3 lines (check in, security, & immigration). People were jumping through the immigration line and several waiting passengers loudly called the line jumpers on it and complained to the one lone immigration official assigned to line management. I could easily imagen things turning violent, we were one punch away actually. And who's fault is this? Well sure, one has to keep one's composure in situations like this, or face severe consequences, but shit, travelling by air is a frigin' insult and nightmare these days. The airlines, the security, and immigration are all at fault for this BS.

I remember the good old days before the internet and 9/11 when you could show up 30 minutes before a flight and still catch your flight, and planes were half filled with passengers then, and you could have a whole row to yourself on an overnight flight. Air travel used to be fun back in the day. Now it is strictly a cattle car experience. For example. My Latam New Year's evening flight was fully booked, but we arrived at MIA a half hour early and I was in and out of the airport in 30 minutes. I picked up my rental car and drove home before rush hour hit. So, on a scale of 1 to 10, I rate the whole experience a 5. I just wish I could have stayed longer in SP. Oh well. In 6 months I will endure another hell flight back to the city of women. I can't help myself.

That's why I'm willing to spend / invest more on the travel experience to have as comfortable a flight as possible (starting with the ground experience) while cutting down on how much I spend on my lodging once I arrive. I go for first / business class as often as I can. And when I can't, then I'm at least in a premium class seat. I try to avoid the "cattle car" economy experience at almost all cost. Lucky for me I can pretty much always afford some kind of premium seating no matter what. Then for lodging I tend to stick with 3-star hotels, and sometimes 4-star. This is what works for me budget / comfort wise. I don't sweat the hotel too much (don't need the nicest) because I will be spending a lot of time away from the hotel room anyway. But no plane no far away, exotic, foreign pussy! Haha!

[Axel Heyst]

Hope this wasn't one of the bros:

https://nypost.com/2023/12/31/news/a...us-flight/amp/

I just flew out of GRU to MIA on the 1st. It took way over an hour to get through 3 lines (check in, security, & immigration). People were jumping through the immigration line and several waiting passengers loudly called the line jumpers on it and complained to the one lone immigration official assigned to line management. I could easily imagen things turning violent, we were one punch away actually. And who's fault is this? Well sure, one has to keep one's composure in situations like this, or face severe consequences, but shit, travelling by air is a frigin' insult and nightmare these days. The airlines, the security, and immigration are all at fault for this BS.

I remember the good old days before the internet and 9/11 when you could show up 30 minutes before a flight and still catch your flight, and planes were half filled with passengers then, and you could have a whole row to yourself on an overnight flight. Air travel used to be fun back in the day. Now it is strictly a cattle car experience. For example. My Latam New Year's evening flight was fully booked, but we arrived at MIA a half hour early and I was in and out of the airport in 30 minutes. I picked up my rental car and drove home before rush hour hit. So, on a scale of 1 to 10, I rate the whole experience a 5. I just wish I could have stayed longer in SP. Oh well. In 6 months I will endure another hell flight back to the city of women. I can't help myself.

[The Cane]

He just found out that he needs to show his bank statement to get his tourist visa.

Too damn funny LOLOLOL!

[Fewdie]

He just found out that he needs to show his bank statement to get his tourist visa.

Hope this wasn't one of the bros:

https://nypost.com/2023/12/31/news/a...us-flight/amp/

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[The Cane]

Hope this wasn't one of the bros:

https://nypost.com/2023/12/31/news/a...us-flight/amp/

[TjBrazil]

My solution to the January 10 visa implementation date: I arrive January 9.

Unless you miss your flight.

[ShooBree]

The only tourist that they lost so far is you. They don't really care. Americans don't spend too much money when they travel anyways.

🤣129315;129315;.

You should be a comedian!

[Explorer8939]

My solution to the January 10 visa implementation date: I arrive January 9.

[The Cane]

If that is the case, then why did they take it away in the first place? The USA never took away the requirement for them to have one. So that could not have been in reciprocity.

The first part of what you said was correct. Yes, the Bolsonaro administration removed the visa requirement to boost travel to Brazil. But then the Lula administration came back in and reinstated it based on reciprocity. "These countries require our citizens to have a tourist visa, so we're going to require theirs to have one too". For example, Japan was originally one of the countries that Brazil was going to reimpose the visa requirement on, but both countries have since agreed to waive tourist visa requirements for their respective citizens. In any event, like I say whatever. I've got my valid Brazilian tourist visa, and when it's about to expire I'll get another one (shrugs).

[Mr Enternational]

Again, the reason why the visa requirement is being reinstated is based on the principle of reciprocity, not because they thought not requiring one would boost travel but didn't. Why do people keep making this hard to understand? It's very easy to understand, and it's an approach that other countries choose to follow as well.

"Former president Jair Bolsonaro had scrapped the visa requirements in 2019 to bolster the country's tourism industry, but the four countries continued to demand visas from Brazilians. Bolsonaro criticized the decision last week after the news outlet G1 first reported the upcoming change. "Another revocation by Lula. Less jobs and less stimulus of the hotel sector," he said on Twitter. " So yes it was taken away to boost travel, but put back because other countries would not take their requirement away.

https://apnews.com/article/brazil-us...5484b99a807971

[Mr Enternational]

Again, the reason why the visa requirement is being reinstated is based on the principle of reciprocity, not because they thought not requiring one would boost travel but didn't. Why do people keep making this hard to understand

If that is the case, then why did they take it away in the first place? The USA never took away the requirement for them to have one. So that could not have been in reciprocity.