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[Rio Bob]

People have been debating this bank statement issue, so I went to the official website concerning the Visa applications. Number six talks about the bank statement for the last 30 days showing a balance of at least $2000. That's not a significant amount for travel in a foreign country, but I don't want the Brazilian government in my financial affairs. Oh well, back to the drawing board to find another country.

It says printed copy of bank statement showing $2,000 for travel. What will they check it when you enter Brazil at passport control? Shit I'll have more than that in my pocket, should I show them the cash? My business class ticket costs more than that, what am I going to Rio to live on the streets, how stupid.

It’s still all not that bad, I remember in the 80’s they only gave out visas good for 90 days so several times a year you had to go to the Brazilian consulate in New York with a money order and get a new visa what a pain this was but it was worth it lol. So the requirements now are nothing and if I have to show some passport clerk my balance it’s a non issue. Past couple of years was great with no visa needed then they had 10 year visas and now getting an electronic one again is no big deal. This is because of Lula, they need money I guess maybe he can open up Help again.

[Dcrist0527]

Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.

I'm not sure what you find far fetched. Is it common? No. But are you saying it's far fetched that a cartel in Mexico couldn't pay someone in Migration pennies to divert information? (I know we're talking Brazil but I think it's almost same scenario) I'm not thinking only about account activity but more about account balances. Addresses. I suppose we can limit what is shown, at least to an extent. But that's a hassle, especially when I'm already paying them $80. Am I overboard? Maybe. But I don't think it's far fetched to say this can be exploited. Especially when you consider gringo mongers are already targeted. But, as I've said before, we all have our own risk profiles. Many would say things I've done or areas I frequent is foolish. So to each their own.

[Vagabundo1]

Still, BRIICS+ are not on the side of countries that are funding and sending weapons to whack russkis. And soon?

Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.

[The Cane]

Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.

I have multiple bank accounts. One holds my "travel fund". That's the one I will use when the time comes for me to apply for the visa. It doesn't show a lot of movement in and out, but rather a pretty steady holding to moderately growing balance over time with plenty of money in there to meet their requirements. That will be good enough, and not concerned about extortion and blackmail and all that stuff. Like you say that's pretty far-fetched.

[Mr Enternational]

I'll go one step further. What happens to this data? I'm no conspiracy theorist. But I'm not a fan of publicizing bank statements and balances. I don't argue it's a legitimate ask for Brazil. But if those get in the wrong hands, that makes a pretty nice hitlist. Talk about making extortion of a foreigner easy. On one hand, that sounds far fetched.

Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.

[Dcrist0527]

Number six talks about the bank statement for the last 30 days showing a balance of at least $2000. That's not a significant amount for travel in a foreign country, but I don't want the Brazilian government in my financial affairs. Oh well, back to the drawing board to find another country.

I'll go one step further. What happens to this data? I'm no conspiracy theorist. But I'm not a fan of publicizing bank statements and balances. I don't argue it's a legitimate ask for Brazil. But if those get in the wrong hands, that makes a pretty nice hitlist. Talk about making extortion of a foreigner easy. On one hand, that sounds far fetched. But that's putting alot of blind faith in data security.

I, for one, am seriously thinking of passing on Brazil based on this requirement. Very disappointing. But I also don't blame them due to the lack of reciprocity.

Forgive the slight deviation to politics. But how sad is it that the US puts visitors through the ringer yet allows other migration unabated.

[The Cane]

Where did you see that? Traditionally it has been that you are able to be in the country 180 days per year, but only allowed up to 90 days for each stay. It has usually been that if your passport with the visa expires, then you just travel with your new passport and the old with the visa in it.

And I have yet to see anything to contradict what you have said here.

[Mr Enternational]

In researching this there are a couple of things I did not like:

You are restricted to 90 days in country per year instead of the current 180.

It is still tied to your passport. So if your passport expires in one year the Brazil visa expires in one year and you have to reapply.

Where did you see that? Traditionally it has been that you are able to be in the country 180 days per year, but only allowed up to 90 days for each stay. It has usually been that if your passport with the visa expires, then you just travel with your new passport and the old with the visa in it.

[WanderingMan]

In researching this there are a couple of things I did not like:

You are restricted to 90 days in country per year instead of the current 180.

The list of documents required includes, photos, passport, bank account, proof of income etc.

It is still tied to your passport. So if your passport expires in one year the Brazil visa expires in one year and you have to reapply.

People have been debating this bank statement issue, so I went to the official website concerning the Visa applications. Number six talks about the bank statement for the last 30 days showing a balance of at least $2000. That's not a significant amount for travel in a foreign country, but I don't want the Brazilian government in my financial affairs. Oh well, back to the drawing board to find another country.

[WonderWhy]

In researching this there are a couple of things I did not like:

You are restricted to 90 days in country per year instead of the current 180.

The list of documents required includes, photos, passport, bank account, proof of income etc.

It is still tied to your passport. So if your passport expires in one year the Brazil visa expires in one year and you have to reapply.

[Nounce]

There is. But first you have to qualify for the loan. You think most people in 3rd world countries are able to do that? ...

Their interest rate is way too high even if one is approved.

[Spidy]

My kind of town (and Tony's too)!

https://youtu.be/duIIwfKZwBI?si=94-3_IkVmSJs_OO7

That was a good episode on Carioca food and culture...THANKS!

Glad to see they're allowing beach barracas, to cook food on the beach again (if true). Those were some of my fav. memories of life on Brazilian beaches, especially in Rio, Recife, Manaus and Fortaleza. Dining at the beach with an awesome seafood platter (or a large peixe frita) with a healthy scoop of batata fritas, salada and a cold cerveja, was sublime. All the while checking out the dental-floss bikini clad girls and their fantastic bronze bodies. Man, for me, those were cool days, on Rio Beaches, especially days other than the sometimes all too busy Sunday or holiday days at the beach.

But who can forget those, Sunday evenings along Copa, sitting, eating and drinking, at one of those beach front restaurants (Av. Atlantica), that would offer a Pedaos Rodizio (sp??) "small all-you-can-eat food/pizza" (R$25-35) style menus, for Sunday evenings only, was something to behold.

Naturally, finishing off the evening, by walking off the food, with a nice (15-25-min) stroll up or down Av. Atlantica, watching the street vendors/hustlers and kids playing, on your way to "Helpee" to checkout the talent. Now those were some memorable Sunday evenings.

PS: Although, Feijoada is the national dish, I never have been a big fan of the dish. https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/feijoada

[WanderingMan]

1. Your "friend" would do well in Rio and Brazil in general, LOL. Anal sex is cheap and plentiful.

2. You correctly understand the concept of prives.

3. It is possible to bring girls back to hotels and airbnbs. Just do your research.

4. Vila Mimosa is not dangerous, it's simply unpleasant. Besides, the prices, minute by minute, are not that much lower than in other venues.

5. I would argue that Sao Paulo is worth the extra expense if you're after those elusive 9's and 10's, but Rio has a lot more joys to offer in addition to carnal pleasure.

Thanks for the information. In this case the "friend" is really a friend, LOL. The only issue I see for us in Rio is that we all like the thinner women. In videos posted at night on youtube, it appears as though the majority are on the larger side of sizing.

At my age, I like doing things other than partaking in carnal pleasures. In Thailand we visited shrines, even a huge wooden one. I also visited the botanical gardens in Pattaya. The fireworks were good there as well, but we just happened to be there during the international fireworks festival. Half a million people on Pattaya beach. I do enjoy beaches, particularly those with good sand and attractive women. With the non-carnal things in mind, it seems Rio offers more choices.

I am looking on airbnb and looking for guest friendly places. Thank you for your help.

[Vagabundo1]

This is so well said that it is almost poetry. It is why this member has the most posts of any member. Those who are trying to be hunter biden s living beyond your means should take this post to heart. This belongs in reports of distinction just for the financial wisdom.

Pretty much all countries are third world countries. Pretty much all countries will always be third world countries. What countries have gone from third world to not in the last 50 years? Maybe Singapore. What separates us from the rest of the world is credit. People in most countries have to pay cash to go to school, cash to build that house, cash to go on that holiday. All we have to do is sign on the line and pay later.

I am at my girlfriend's house in Recife. She wants me to take her out of the country. I told her that I do not have money for that. She told me to use that international card that I have. I said what is an international card? She was talking about my American Express that I use everywhere. She thinks I can just use it and take 12 months to pay. I said that has to be paid off every month. I do not put anything on it that I am not able to immediately pay. They think it is that easy. Yeah it may be easy to swipe, but it will not be easy to pay if you let your eyes overload your ass.

[Mr Enternational]

Why is there no credit to buy a house.

There is. But first you have to qualify for the loan. You think most people in 3rd world countries are able to do that? Trippy article in Thailand that I was reading the other day about a guy going to loansharks. Even the cops told him to go on the run.

"In just eight months since August 2023, he has had 37 creditors and was able to pay off eight, leaving him with 29. He has already paid over 3 million baht in interest.

Chai confessed that he has exhausted all sources of borrowing, including friends, relatives, and even his children. He has had to flee his creditors three times after they threatened to kill him and surrounded his company. Local police advised him to relocate as the group of creditors was influential, had numerous associates, and did not fear local law enforcement. ".

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