General Info

[Rio Bob]

I knew about termas etc as they had ads in the Rio-brochures handed out to arriving tourists at Galeao.

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[Sperto]

Long time ago before the internet for the most part. Just curious were you aware of the scene with the girls before you went the first time or did you learn when you arrived? What was your motivation for going the first time?

I also went a long time ago for first time before the internet and of course I went to meet girls but I had no idea about the openness of the GDP situation and really didn't learn about it until a subsequent trip and once I did I found my place in the universe LOL.

When I went the first time to Rio I went for a 15 months trip in Latin-America, after finishing my university studies. Brazil was my favourite country (followed by Colombia). I had read about Help, but I didn't know what to expect. I went to Help the first evening in Rio and brought a girl back to Hotel Biarritz. I asked her numerous times if she was a prostitute, as I thought no way i was going to f*ck a prostitute. After spending a week together she told me that she worked at Monte Carlo.

The first 6 years I went to Brazil I never payed for sex but enjoyed many nice Help-girls for free. In 1997 I "grew up" and understood that a combination of non-pro's and pro's were the best combination. The first time I payed for a girl was a stunner at Help that I just needed to f*ck. It cost R$35/all night.

I knew about termas etc as they had ads in the Rio-brochures handed out to arriving tourists at Galeao.

[Rio Bob]

Since I went to Brazil the first time in 1991

Long time ago before the internet for the most part. Just curious were you aware of the scene with the girls before you went the first time or did you learn when you arrived? What was your motivation for going the first time?

I also went a long time ago for first time before the internet and of course I went to meet girls but I had no idea about the openness of the GDP situation and really didn't learn about it until a subsequent trip and once I did I found my place in the universe LOL.

[Sperto]

German looking people are not hard to find in Brazil.

No comment about that. I've f*cked my share of German girls, but never found them very attractive.
However there used to be a German girl girl working in one of the privées in Rio. Sabrina, I think was her working name. Very popular on Gpguia. I met her once in a presentation. Tall girls, large tits and a funny accent. I got impressed by her tit-size. Lucklily I got to feel the tits before deciding, very soft. No session.

[MongerForSex]

I don't want to clutter the So Paulo thread so I write here.

Regarding the color of the brazilian women. As mentioned Brazil is extremely mixed. Native indians, immigrants from Europe, Asia and the Middle-East. A mixture of all these and that's Brazil.

If you want to meet really dark girls, Bahia is the place to go to. The biggest chance of meeting real blond girls with blue eyes is in the south. Indian girls you'll find a lot in Amazonas, Acre, Rondonia, Roraima and Par. If you want to find chubby girls, without necks and large squared heads you should go to Cear. Each region, or state, have their typical population. I've travelled in all the brazilian states and can often guess right where the girls from.

I have no special colour of the girls that's my favourite. It depends of my mood what I want to f*ck, but propably the majority are morenas. Since I went to Brazil the first time in 1991 I've been keeping a f*ck-book where I note name, contact information, details about tit-size, ass-size, performance details about BJ, CIM, anal and a lot of other details. This little book have been very useful when I return to a city and want to refresh the memory about a girl before I decide if she's worth meeting again. Anyway, in this f*ck-book I also write a note about the colour/race of the girl. Branca, morena clara, morena escura, mulata, negra, india etc. Are half ot these girls noted "white"? No. What might be correctly considered "white" I rather think of as paraibana, cearensa, maranhense etc.

The statistics say that about 47% of the brazilians are white. Of course a large part of these whites are a mixture of white and coloured people. Are there a lot of white girls in Brazil? Yes, there are. Are there a lot of white girls in Brazil that looks like German or Scandinavian girls? Not many, mainly in the south. What about the North-East, are there no whites? Of course there are plenty of them, white girls with nordestino features.

I've never met anybody who wanted to go to Brazil to specifically f*ck white girls. You go there to f*ck brazilian girls. They might have black, brown och white skin.

I would say most White Brazilians are spanish or portuguese looking. German looking people are not hard to find in Brazil. All depends on the state you go to.

Thank you for confirming, your explanation, sharing accurate information on races in Brazil and your experience in Brazil.

[Sperto]

Sorry, I forgot the african slaves influence in my post below. If there were no african influence the brazilian women would be pink with cú-de-sapo and floppy tits.

[Larry David]

Some guys don't like cafe com leite or chocolate. If a glass of milk is your only thing then don't come. Until the tourism board gives me a paid contract, I see no need to promote Brazil to guys who only want vanilla.

[Sperto]

I don't want to clutter the São Paulo thread so I write here.

Regarding the color of the brazilian women. As mentioned Brazil is extremely mixed. Native indians, immigrants from Europe, Asia and the Middle-East. A mixture of all these and that's Brazil.

If you want to meet really dark girls, Bahia is the place to go to. The biggest chance of meeting real blond girls with blue eyes is in the south. Indian girls you'll find a lot in Amazonas, Acre, Rondonia, Roraima and Pará. If you want to find chubby girls, without necks and large squared heads you should go to Ceará. Each region, or state, have their typical population. I've travelled in all the brazilian states and can often guess right where the girls from.

I have no special colour of the girls that's my favourite. It depends of my mood what I want to f*ck, but propably the majority are morenas. Since I went to Brazil the first time in 1991 I've been keeping a f*ck-book where I note name, contact information, details about tit-size, ass-size, performance details about BJ, CIM, anal and a lot of other details. This little book have been very useful when I return to a city and want to refresh the memory about a girl before I decide if she's worth meeting again. Anyway, in this f*ck-book I also write a note about the colour/race of the girl. Branca, morena clara, morena escura, mulata, negra, india etc. Are half ot these girls noted "white"? No. What might be correctly considered "white" I rather think of as paraibana, cearensa, maranhense etc.

The statistics say that about 47% of the brazilians are white. Of course a large part of these whites are a mixture of white and coloured people. Are there a lot of white girls in Brazil? Yes, there are. Are there a lot of white girls in Brazil that looks like German or Scandinavian girls? Not many, mainly in the south. What about the North-East, are there no whites? Of course there are plenty of them, white girls with nordestino features.

I've never met anybody who wanted to go to Brazil to specifically f*ck white girls. You go there to f*ck brazilian girls. They might have black, brown och white skin.

[WyattEarp]

I think you will not need to go beyond SP and Rio. But there are excursions such as Ubatuba and Santos from SP, Paraty from SP or Rio. Rio has more than enough undiscovered gems of its own but for something special you could do an excursion north (short flight) towards Bahia.

That reminds me. The Búzios peninsula is a world-class tourist destination. You can take a cheap, non-private shuttle there from Rio. The peninsula has all sorts of fingers with many different beaches. It's good for a couple not for mongering. I once brought a Rio pro that I had befriended over a few visits. She loved it.

Armação dos Búzios is the town and you'll find the most nightlife and restaurants there. You can stay on one of the beaches and take a cheap, private bus to Armação dos Búzios for the evening. They stop anywhere and everywhere. I'm sure there is Uber there now. There are also booze cruises.

[NoTaWorry]

NoTaWorry, many of your questions are routinely discussed on the prominent Brazil threads (Rio and Sao Paulo). A little research allows you to form your own perspective and learn things you might not have known to ask.
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Just like everywhere world, look for a Gracie BJJ Academy near your lodging. Rio is the birthplace of BJJ and the Gracie empire. Perhaps you'll get a glimpse of an up and coming UFC fighter. Perhaps you will find an attractive, bisexual BJJ woman. Just sayin'.

Hey Wyatt,

Thanks for the information. I am a veteran of the board, mostly for FKK land. I am slowly looking through the Brazil threads, as I believe I mentioned in the first post, but having some generous informed answers in one spot helps with the initial planning and on getting the ball rolling. I think other newbies to Brazil may find the info helpful as well. So thanks for chiming in.

In Thailand I hit it off with a former UFC competitor at one of the local academies. We hung out a few times and practiced on the matt together. Unfortunately he's a 280 lb + guy and not a sub 120 lb girl. My friend did get a little crush on a cute petite BJJ competitor but nothing ever came of it. So yes maybe we will get luckier this trip. However with the PayforPlay options luck ultimately shouldn't be necessary. Thanks again!

[NoTaWorry]

Just to reply to some of your other questions -.
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(By the way, ju-jitsu might be great, but not if someone has a gun.)
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You feel safer when you know the place, same as most countries! Enjoy.

Thank you Jan for the tips.

BJJ is SPORT martial arts, great for working out and meeting fit people. I agree, BJJ Has little use with multiple opponents or with weapons of any kind. Best way to survive conflict is to avoid it. Hence the safety questions.

My friend mentioned she appreciated the cultural advice.

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Finally, important, as a first visitor, it really helps if you learn the Brasilian way of doing things. Greet everyone with a 'Bom DIA' (good morning) even in shops and cafes. Follow with a 'Tudo bem?' (how are you?) before getting into conversation. Brasilians are mostly softly spoken and avoid arguments -- try not to make the American faux pas of talking too much, too loudly, or assuming you know how things are or should be -- the culture is entirely different. Never try to outsmart Brasilians -- they will see it coming and run rings round you.
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[Jan 156]

Just to reply to some of your other questions -.

How would you generalize the human experience / chemistry between yourself and the working girls in Brazil versus the mainly Romanian experience in FKK land?

There is little comparison. Although it is hard to generalise over such a large population, Brasilian working girls will tend to engage more emotionally, whereas I find FKK girls can seem rather clinical and impersonal.

What is the legality of sex work in Brazil and what does a mongerer need to know about the laws of the land?

It's legal.

How much cash are you guys comfortable carrying to and from "brothels". Any fear of money / possessions being taken from your hotel?

The big termas are generally very safe, and also the clinicas in SP and Rio. You'll generally get a personal locker with a key or instance. But the general rule in Brazil is only carry what you need for that time, whether money, credit cards, ipad or phones (I. E. Until you are back to your hotel or apartment). *Especially on the beach. * You are very safe in upmarket areas like Avenida Paulista (SP) and upmarket venues. Elsewhere you should exercise 360 degree awareness as a matter of course. Take a camera when you need to take a camera and if unsure, keep it as inconspicuous as possible. That sort of thing. Doing that lets you relax until you know the areas. Many cariocas (Rio residents) will carry small notes in one pocket and larger notes in a less obvious pocket. But everyone has their own security zone. Most people will never have any trouble. It's just how well prepared you want to be in case you are one of the ones that could be unlucky. (By the way, ju-jitsu might be great, but not if someone has a gun.) Stay away from demonstrations and check local updates or warnings (there's been problems recently with weather, a collapsed bridge etc) but they're big cities and small incidents in one area get disproportionate news.

How safe do you feel in the places you frequent in Brazil.

Very. Though I don't wander into favelas as I used to. You feel safer when you know the place, same as most countries! Enjoy.

[Jan 156]

Rio sounds like a good place to start or perhaps stay the entire month. If we were going to stay for a month, what part of Rio do you recommend?

Is Airbnb a good option if we stay a month or do you think hotel would be better?

Oh, and I was talking to my lady friend. She has actually taken a year of Portuguese. She is also fluent in a few languages so maybe her skills will be useful on this trip. Any other places we should visit, or do you think we will be content in Rio for an entire month? We were happy with being in Phuket for almost 3 weeks.

Rio and SP are very different cities in almost every possible way. I'll add my own descriptions as I love both cities.

There is plenty to do in Rio for a month. It's a party and beach city, with adequate mongering and arts facilities, and lots of tourist attractions. You will want to stay anywhere in the southern half of the city. Ipanema and Leblon are upmarket but a longer distance from other districts. Copacabana is a bit crazier and closer to downtown. Botafogo is one stop further to downtown and a cultured choice (good arts, cuisine) and a short metro or bus ride to the Copacabana or Leme beaches. Avoid outlying Barra de Tijuca as it's too far away and there's been additional problems with transport there recently.

Sao Paulo has no beach but well-structured, good value mongering and also some of the best cuisine in the world. It is more business-orientated and 'westernised' than Rio, large infrastructure, biggest city in the southern hemisphere. Travelling distances within the city can be considerable. People are very polite. It is not tourist-orientated and not so easy to navigate at first so many mongers take advantage of ABG's guide service (for which I understand he charges a small fee, though I've never met him). The 'Times Square' area of SP is Avenida Paulista and a good place to stay with access to everything. The downtown area, as with Rio, is a bit scruffier. There are several attractive areas within reach of Paulista, such as trendier upmarket nightlife and Bohemian, sophisticated dining and art places such as Vila Madalena. A map of the sort of places you want to go (eg mongering) may help you pick a place to stay. Bear in mind the area near Paulista is hilly in many places so when staying there it's best to be within a block of the main strip.

I use both AirBnB and hotels in both cities. Hotels give you at least someone on hand if you have questions about things but AirBnB can save money and give you a whole apartment and added privacy. Finding somewhere reasonably near a metro can make life easier for a first visit. (In SP, buy a Bilhete Unico card -- gives you hassle-free, queue-free, ticketless entrance to Metro, buses, trains. Although taxis are not expensive, there are times when the Metro makes sense. The bus services are also excellent.).

Finally, important, as a first visitor, it really helps if you learn the Brasilian way of doing things. Greet everyone with a 'Bom DIA' (good morning) even in shops and cafes. Follow with a 'Tudo bem?' (how are you?) before getting into conversation. Brasilians are mostly softly spoken and avoid arguments -- try not to make the American faux pas of talking too much, too loudly, or assuming you know how things are or should be -- the culture is entirely different. Never try to outsmart Brasilians -- they will see it coming and run rings round you.

I think you will not need to go beyond SP and Rio. But there are excursions such as Ubatuba and Santos from SP, Paraty from SP or Rio. Rio has more than enough undiscovered gems of its own but for something special you could do an excursion north (short flight) towards Bahia.

[MongerForSex]

Thank you MongerforSex and AltoBomGosto for your quick responses.

Ill keep reading the forums. With MfS response (above) Rio sounds like a good place to start or perhaps stay the entire month. If we were going to stay for a month, what part of Rio do you recommend?

Is Airbnb a good option if we stay a month or do you think hotel would be better?

Oh, and I was talking to my lady friend. She has actually taken a year of Portuguese. She is also fluent in a few languages so maybe her skills will be useful on this trip. Any other places we should visit, or do you think we will be content in Rio for an entire month? We were happy with being in Phuket for almost 3 weeks.

Both cities are good. But personally, I prefer Sao Paulo over Rio de Janeiro when it comes to working girls and nightlife activities. Food is better in Sao paulo. More diverse (people of different ethnicity). Rio de Janeiro is also a good city to monger, Rio de Jeneiro is better than SP when it comes to daytime activities and touristic spots. Two weeks is enough to visit the main touristic spots in Rio de Janeiro. Because it's your first time in Brazil I would say you should do both (Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo). Two weeks in Rio de Janeiro and two weeks in Sao Paulo. When I travel, I prefer to stay in a hotel, it's more comfortable and better facility and service. Some hotels accept guests without additional fee, some with additional fee and some don't accept. That's why you should see the policy of every hotel. You can also find an apparthotel. It's an appartment with the same service as in a hotel.

You can contact AltoBomGosto when you travel to Sao Paulo in January. It's not difficult to find bisexual women in Brazil.

[WyattEarp]

NoTaWorry, many of your questions are routinely discussed on the prominent Brazil threads (Rio and Sao Paulo). A little research allows you to form your own perspective and learn things you might not have known to ask. You should also research escorts who cater to couples. Some mention it in there web profiles whether on an escort site, personal blog and / or Twitter.

Yes, there are skinny girls in both cities even though Brazil is famous for curvy and thick girls. It's a large, diverse population so you can find almost any look that interests you. My opinion is that most of the skinny Brasileiras have some pop in their ass. This I don't think is a bad thing. I never hear anyone here ask if they have skinny girls with tiny, flat asses.

If you have a lot of time, you might want to check out Sao Paulo for a few days. Although mongerers love the offerings in Sao Paulo, Sao Paulo is not a good tourist city. The working girls and food are great. AltoBomGosto in SP armed with an objective could probably find you bisexual babes.

Your girlfriend would likely enjoy doing some sightseeing around Rio and staying near Copacabana Beach or Ipanema Beach. Depending on your budget, Ipanema is a little more expensive. Both areas, near each other, are a lot fun for tourists. I'm guessing your girlfriend likes to just be a couple when you two are alone. I find Ipanema to be a good couples spot to stay. Sunsets at the Arpoador rocks! Everything is just a little bit more upscale and Copa is very close.

Safety is always discussed. If you stay in a nice area, you and your girlfriend should be fine in the daytime. Nighttime in either city requires some precaution. This leads to lodging. I cannot imagine sharing a hotel room for a month. I personally would find an apartment/condo rental with periodic cleaning. While not as popular as Carnival season, January is prime season. I would also think in an AirBnB you would have more freedom with guests. While some hotels are fine with a single man bringing a female guest, I don't know if they would charge a fee or hassle a third person going up to the room. So if you find a good female bisexual performer, definitely get her digits and invite her over

Just like everywhere world, look for a Gracie BJJ Academy near your lodging. Rio is the birthplace of BJJ and the Gracie empire. Perhaps you'll get a glimpse of an up and coming UFC fighter. Perhaps you will find an attractive, bisexual BJJ woman. Just sayin'.