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[Elvis 2008]

Mr E, you are being pretty naive. It's the possibility that you can be extorted for anything. They know your name and banking info. If you are cheating on your wife they can call her. Didn't a guy in Colombia just get murdered over a measly 2 k. I would rather them not have my banking info on file. Let me show them the 2 k on my phone when I arrive.

Tijuana, you are at the mercy of the Brazilian government when you are there. They can throw you in jail or kill you when you are there. The issue is why would they?

Mexico does the same thing with Colombians but it is not just official. They only want people coming in who can spend money.

If you are worried about Brazil, open up an account, put in 2 k, get into the country, and withdraw money from the account once you clear customs.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm not sure what you find far fetched. Is it common? No. But are you saying it's far fetched that a cartel in Mexico couldn't pay someone in Migration pennies to divert information? (I know we're talking Brazil but I think it's almost same scenario) I'm not thinking only about account activity but more about account balances. Addresses..

I am saying that if you have ever been to Brazil, they already have your name, address, passport number, picture. But you guys are in an uproar because you also have to show them that you paid your light bill last week. If they have not already gotten you from the info they already have then they most certainly are not coming to kidnap you because they now know that you paid some bills.

It is the same as people being in an uproar because someone is taking their picture to get on the plane or back into the country. 10,000 other cameras in the airport that have already seen you and they already have the picture from your passport, yet because someone takes an active picture at this moment, you think you are doomed.

Funny thing is that when you put your ATM card in the machine in Brazil, the receipt comes back with the money you have in your account. Nobody is in an uproar that the bank in Brazil has that information and the cartel in Mexico could pay someone at the bank pennies to divert information. If they are going to get you then they are going to get you, and it won't be on the basis that you sent a piece of paper to the Brazilian consulate. Nobody makes a stink when they buy a house or rent an apartment or buy a car and have to show the same information.

[Fewdie]

You can set up a wise account and add 2 K in there for a Charles Schwab account and just add 2 K in there.

People have been debating this bank statement issue, so I went to the official website concerning the Visa applications. Number six talks about the bank statement for the last 30 days showing a balance of at least $2000. That's not a significant amount for travel in a foreign country, but I don't want the Brazilian government in my financial affairs. Oh well, back to the drawing board to find another country.

[TjBrazil]

Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.

Mr E, you are being pretty naive. It's the possibility that you can be extorted for anything. They know your name and banking info. If you are cheating on your wife they can call her. Didn't a guy in Colombia just get murdered over a measly 2 k. I would rather them not have my banking info on file. Let me show them the 2 k on my phone when I arrive.

[TjBrazil]

People have been debating this bank statement issue, so I went to the official website concerning the Visa applications. Number six talks about the bank statement for the last 30 days showing a balance of at least $2000. That's not a significant amount for travel in a foreign country, but I don't want the Brazilian government in my financial affairs. Oh well, back to the drawing board to find another country.

I read the 6 things from your link and it doesn't say proof of income. Just proof of 2 k. I hope that's the case.

[TjBrazil]

In researching this there are a couple of things I did not like:

You are restricted to 90 days in country per year instead of the current 180.

The list of documents required includes, photos, passport, bank account, proof of income etc.

It is still tied to your passport. So if your passport expires in one year the Brazil visa expires in one year and you have to reapply.

I'm a trader now, how do I show proof of income. Do I need to give them my 1040. I don't get it. This is ridiculous. Is the visa at least good for 10 years like before?

[The Cane]

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[Rio Bob]

People have been debating this bank statement issue, so I went to the official website concerning the Visa applications. Number six talks about the bank statement for the last 30 days showing a balance of at least $2000. That's not a significant amount for travel in a foreign country, but I don't want the Brazilian government in my financial affairs. Oh well, back to the drawing board to find another country.

It says printed copy of bank statement showing $2,000 for travel. What will they check it when you enter Brazil at passport control? Shit I'll have more than that in my pocket, should I show them the cash? My business class ticket costs more than that, what am I going to Rio to live on the streets, how stupid.

It’s still all not that bad, I remember in the 80’s they only gave out visas good for 90 days so several times a year you had to go to the Brazilian consulate in New York with a money order and get a new visa what a pain this was but it was worth it lol. So the requirements now are nothing and if I have to show some passport clerk my balance it’s a non issue. Past couple of years was great with no visa needed then they had 10 year visas and now getting an electronic one again is no big deal. This is because of Lula, they need money I guess maybe he can open up Help again.

[Dcrist0527]

Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.

I'm not sure what you find far fetched. Is it common? No. But are you saying it's far fetched that a cartel in Mexico couldn't pay someone in Migration pennies to divert information? (I know we're talking Brazil but I think it's almost same scenario) I'm not thinking only about account activity but more about account balances. Addresses. I suppose we can limit what is shown, at least to an extent. But that's a hassle, especially when I'm already paying them $80. Am I overboard? Maybe. But I don't think it's far fetched to say this can be exploited. Especially when you consider gringo mongers are already targeted. But, as I've said before, we all have our own risk profiles. Many would say things I've done or areas I frequent is foolish. So to each their own.

[Vagabundo1]

Still, BRIICS+ are not on the side of countries that are funding and sending weapons to whack russkis. And soon?

Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.

[The Cane]

Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.

I have multiple bank accounts. One holds my "travel fund". That's the one I will use when the time comes for me to apply for the visa. It doesn't show a lot of movement in and out, but rather a pretty steady holding to moderately growing balance over time with plenty of money in there to meet their requirements. That will be good enough, and not concerned about extortion and blackmail and all that stuff. Like you say that's pretty far-fetched.

[Mr Enternational]

I'll go one step further. What happens to this data? I'm no conspiracy theorist. But I'm not a fan of publicizing bank statements and balances. I don't argue it's a legitimate ask for Brazil. But if those get in the wrong hands, that makes a pretty nice hitlist. Talk about making extortion of a foreigner easy. On one hand, that sounds far fetched.

Sounds very far-fetched. How is someone going to extort you by knowing you pay $30 for your electric bill on the 12th of every month? Maybe you guys have something on your bank statements that I do not that is making you paranoid. Here is a screenshot of mine. Guess I will be going on a hitlist now.

[Dcrist0527]

Number six talks about the bank statement for the last 30 days showing a balance of at least $2000. That's not a significant amount for travel in a foreign country, but I don't want the Brazilian government in my financial affairs. Oh well, back to the drawing board to find another country.

I'll go one step further. What happens to this data? I'm no conspiracy theorist. But I'm not a fan of publicizing bank statements and balances. I don't argue it's a legitimate ask for Brazil. But if those get in the wrong hands, that makes a pretty nice hitlist. Talk about making extortion of a foreigner easy. On one hand, that sounds far fetched. But that's putting alot of blind faith in data security.

I, for one, am seriously thinking of passing on Brazil based on this requirement. Very disappointing. But I also don't blame them due to the lack of reciprocity.

Forgive the slight deviation to politics. But how sad is it that the US puts visitors through the ringer yet allows other migration unabated.

[The Cane]

Where did you see that? Traditionally it has been that you are able to be in the country 180 days per year, but only allowed up to 90 days for each stay. It has usually been that if your passport with the visa expires, then you just travel with your new passport and the old with the visa in it.

And I have yet to see anything to contradict what you have said here.

[Mr Enternational]

In researching this there are a couple of things I did not like:

You are restricted to 90 days in country per year instead of the current 180.

It is still tied to your passport. So if your passport expires in one year the Brazil visa expires in one year and you have to reapply.

Where did you see that? Traditionally it has been that you are able to be in the country 180 days per year, but only allowed up to 90 days for each stay. It has usually been that if your passport with the visa expires, then you just travel with your new passport and the old with the visa in it.