General Info

[Torgoch]

This year's line up.

http://fotografia.folha.uol.com.br/g...ss-bumbum-2014#foto-427351.

A few of them have faces like a horse but focus on the lower half of the body. I like the look of Miss Rondonia.

[Sperto]

The thing I liked about BA85 was the sense almost of a party atmosphere, as well as excellent value that could be had. Andrade 69, for anyone who likes exploring the trashy venues and goes thru to SP for biz, is much bigger. (I've just mentioned it on the SP thread.) Quality can vary a lot. I've seen stunners walk in, but you can also climb 11 floors on another day and not find anything remotely attractive. Very "grabby", like the Rio Uriguiana trash walk-up. If you are carrying a bag, you have to check it in at security on ground floor before you go up. Much louder is S. P. 's Alameida Barao de Limeira 134, music blaring into the street, but a longer walk from the Metro. Same deal, with a very large number of floors (great if you don't mind a lot of steps). At least in Rio's downtown you can get of the Metro, walk 50 yards, go up an elevator and find a decent prive that's as clean as a dentist's waiting room with girls to match, go down and have a good lunch, then head to the beach. It would be nice to have a few more well-populated trashy walk-ups (there's still some in North Centro, the area north of Vargas on the way to Maua, but sparse) but then they have maybe had their heyday. With a beautiful city such as Rio, good p4 p at a reasonable price and obtained with reasonable ease, is just the reasonably available icing on the cake.

I miss BA85. It used to be a good option when needing a quick and cheap session. I had many really beautiful GPs there. The only disadvantage were the lack of showers and the narrow spiral staircase.

Among the really trashy ones the options are becoming less. Several have closed: BA85, BA113 (no loss), R Carioca 44 (?)(the one on the second floor which I think you liked Chris) and R d Acre 120. The two casas on R Leandro Martins are still working but I havn't seen any nice GPs there the last years. R d Carioca 59 is still worth visiting but the gems are very rare. U24 is a good option when wanting to go sleazy and trashy. Several cute girls. Just a shame about the loud music, filthy cabins and the dark stairs.

The great with mongering in centro in Rio are the wide options. Expensive "robe-termas", topclass prives with nice suites, simple prives with cabins and showers in the hall and finally the Trashy ones. All gathered within 5-10 minutes walk from each other. That's quite unique. It's very convenient that you can take a bus/metro at 9AM, arrive in centro 15 minutes later, 15 minutes more and you are starting a 30 minutes-session. By 10AM you have released your load and 30 minutes later you can sit down at the beach drinking an ice-cold Matte Leão and enjoying the sun.

[Mangera]

The thing I liked about BA85 was the sense almost of a party atmosphere, as well as excellent value that could be had. Andrade 69, for anyone who likes exploring the trashy venues and goes thru to SP for biz, is much bigger. (I've just mentioned it on the SP thread.) Quality can vary a lot. I've seen stunners walk in, but you can also climb 11 floors on another day and not find anything remotely attractive. Very "grabby", like the Rio Uriguiana trash walk-up. If you are carrying a bag, you have to check it in at security on ground floor before you go up. Much louder is S. P. 's Alameida Barao de Limeira 134, music blaring into the street, but a longer walk from the Metro. Same deal, with a very large number of floors (great if you don't mind a lot of steps). At least in Rio's downtown you can get of the Metro, walk 50 yards, go up an elevator and find a decent prive that's as clean as a dentist's waiting room with girls to match, go down and have a good lunch, then head to the beach. It would be nice to have a few more well-populated trashy walk-ups (there's still some in North Centro, the area north of Vargas on the way to Maua, but sparse) but then they have maybe had their heyday. With a beautiful city such as Rio, good p4 p at a reasonable price and obtained with reasonable ease, is just the reasonably available icing on the cake.

The whole description you just gave in the last post about getting off metro, walking 50 yds, and the whole bit. That's what I just did today. Where you following me, LOL!

[Jan 156]

Reminds me of Buenos Aires 85 in Rio. That being said, I passed by Buenos Aires 85 on Thursday around 5:30 pm, and it was closed. Chains and lock outside the door.

The thing I liked about BA85 was the sense almost of a party atmosphere, as well as excellent value that could be had. Andrade 69, for anyone who likes exploring the trashy venues and goes thru to SP for biz, is much bigger. (I've just mentioned it on the SP thread.) Quality can vary a lot. I've seen stunners walk in, but you can also climb 11 floors on another day and not find anything remotely attractive. Very "grabby", like the Rio Uriguiana trash walk-up. If you are carrying a bag, you have to check it in at security on ground floor before you go up. Much louder is S. P. 's Alameida Barao de Limeira 134, music blaring into the street, but a longer walk from the Metro. Same deal, with a very large number of floors (great if you don't mind a lot of steps). At least in Rio's downtown you can get of the Metro, walk 50 yards, go up an elevator and find a decent privée that's as clean as a dentist's waiting room with girls to match, go down and have a good lunch, then head to the beach. It would be nice to have a few more well-populated trashy walk-ups (there's still some in North Centro, the area north of Vargas on the way to Maua, but sparse) but then they have maybe had their heyday. With a beautiful city such as Rio, good p4 p at a reasonable price and obtained with reasonable ease, is just the reasonably available icing on the cake.

[Mangera]

It's been closed for some time now. They moved across the street to #80 per GPGuia. Per Sperto it's not like the ole 85. Only 2 reviews from late last year, both negative on GPGuia. Most recent post on HotForum is from Feb 2014, (Not a TD).

Thanks for the update. Think I will not check it out.

[Java Man]

Reminds me of Buenos Aires 85 in Rio. That being said, I passed by Buenos Aires 85 on Thursday around 5:30 pm, and it was closed. Chains and lock outside the door.

It's been closed for some time now. They moved across the street to #80 per GPGuia. Per Sperto it's not like the ole 85. Only 2 reviews from late last year, both negative on GPGuia. Most recent post on HotForum is from Feb 2014, (Not a TD).

[Mangera]

Interesting reportage about the working rules for the GPs in Rua dos Andradas 69 in So Paulo. "69" and Edificio Itatiaia are two most famous trash-buildings in So Paulo. Both building has about 10 floors with 4 casas/floor. R$20/programa.
http://noticias.r7.com/cidade-alerta...paulo-30062014

Reminds me of Buenos Aires 85 in Rio. That being said, I passed by Buenos Aires 85 on Thursday around 5:30 pm, and it was closed. Chains and lock outside the door.

[Ricker]

Interesting reportage about the working rules for the GPs in Rua dos Andradas 69 in So Paulo. "69" and Edificio Itatiaia are two most famous trash-buildings in So Paulo. Both building has about 10 floors with 4 casas/floor. R$20/programa.
http://noticias.r7.com/cidade-alerta...paulo-30062014

Actually it's now R$30/ programa.

Generally both these places are pretty low rent.

I've been stopping by these buildings occassionally for years, and have even got to know most of the Tias (madams) that run each apartment.

Every once in a while though, a gem can be found.

I've found a few and have had some real GFE, especially when we've met up outside.

Be careful though, the area, especially after dark, can be sketchy.

[Sperto]

Interesting reportage about the working rules for the GPs in Rua dos Andradas 69 in São Paulo. "69" and Edificio Itatiaia are two most famous trash-buildings in São Paulo. Both building has about 10 floors with 4 casas/floor. R$20/programa.
http://noticias.r7.com/cidade-alerta...paulo-30062014

[Bravo]

Totally agree, except there are a number of drivers now starting to be dicks about the are $1. 95 per "baggage item" that they are allowed to charge when coming from airports. I had one guy do it to me coming back after a 25+ hour trip from China, and he even counted my duty free bags. I was too tired to argue and my bag was in his trunk / boot, so I couldn't just pay and dash. Just a heads up.

Damn, that taxi driver was an asshole. Luckily, I didn't have any issues. I went up to the arrival area, saw an Taxi SUV and asked him to take me to Copa using the meter. It ended up being around 55 R. No extra charge for the three bags I had or my duty free bags either.

[Shemp]

I see that Independence Day in Brazil, Sept. 7, is on a Sunday this year. Does that mean that Monday Sept. 8, will be a holiday for everybody?

I'm planning my arrival / departure schedule and am trying to figure out if the termas, MC / Solarium /4 x4 will be open on Monday the 8th. I know that they're all closed on Sunday. Obrigadu!

[Eric Cartman]

You're both right.
The correct fare should be maximum R$55 (bandeira 1, normal traffic) if the taxi use the taximeter. The taxi-booths at Galeo and many drivers at the arrival section will try to charge you R$100 or even more.
If you act cool at departure floor you'll get a taxi ride to Copa paying R$50. The driver will be happy not leaving Galeo empty. Just do it discreetly so the fiscals don't see you.

The majority of the taxidrivers at most airports in Brazil are sharks trying to overcharge. Luckily most airports have excellent bus connections.

Totally agree, except there are a number of drivers now starting to be dicks about the are $1. 95 per "baggage item" that they are allowed to charge when coming from airports. I had one guy do it to me coming back after a 25+ hour trip from China, and he even counted my duty free bags. I was too tired to argue and my bag was in his trunk / boot, so I couldn't just pay and dash. Just a heads up.

[Jan 156]

As it's a General Info thread, might as well add the info for Sao Paulo's main airport, just to keep all the transit stuff in one place.

Rs38 gets you (by bus) to a couple of useful Metro stations (Tiete or Barra Funda) or a choice of two downtown destinations (Republica also has a main metro stop; Paulista has three, but I don't know how close it drops you there). If you really want to save money and don't have too much luggage, a local (cheap) bus will drop you from the airport to Tucuruvi, on the end of the Metro system. A taxi will normally be as little as Rs70-80 to Republica / Paulista but over Rs100 at night or if using special taxis. Hope that helps.

http://www.aeroportoguarulhos.net/tr...orto-guarulhos

http://www.orbitapublicidade.com.br/linhas/linhas.aspx

http://www.metro.sp.gov.br/pdf/mapa-da-rede-metro.pdf

http://www.taxiautofare.com/br/Defau...ista&Time=1963

[Jan 156]

They are also suggesting using the Metro now, in conjunction with the new BRT bus:

"Passengers traveling from the airport to the Zona Sul are encouraged to get the BRT to Vicente de Carvalho and then take the metro (subway) from there," although I am not convinced (only Rs3 plus your Metro fare for anyone that's interested). I think the Real Bus to Zona Sul is Rs13.50. Also if you use the shuttle to Santos Dumont (12 Rs) then the set fare for a taxi is apparently Rs23-28.

Here's the links.

http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-new...aleao-airport/

http://www.realautoonibus.com.br/Sit...has-Premium-00, REAL68983320121012131824-95. Html.

http://www.viagensvamosnessa.com.br/...r-entre-o.html

[Java Man]

I will just hop on a bus! I just have to find out where the buses are at the airport.

Beginning of the year, I used the bus service, fare had increased since my previous trip, cost $R12, IIRC. Took the one headed to Zona Sul, made stops in Centro, and Santos Dumont, and Gloria, before heading to Copa. Took over an hour due to traffiic. 4 yrs ago that bus ride was MUCH cheaper! It maybe more now.