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[Vitrea]

Do you infer that the USA legal system is fair? What would be the chances of a simple Brazilian policeman against an American citizen with connections in an USA court ? My guess is about the same chances as the American marshals in Brazil. Not any better.

This kind of bias and prejudice makes me mad.

"Why, then, do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the rafter in your own eye?", Matthew 7:1-29

It is a fact that some countries, societies and cultures are more corrupt than others. Observing that fact is not prejudice. Check out the latest data from transparency org about corruption perception of ALL countries of the world released this week. Brazil is not on the bottom but significantly lower than the top 20 least-corrupt nations.

http://www.transparency.org/policy_r...i/2010/results

And yes, in my opinion if a Brazilian air marshall were to arrest the wife of a famous American judge, the marshall would have been treated more than fairly. The Judge and his wife would have been in trouble and the cop probably would have been interviewed by all major networks and sent home with commendation. I am not prejudiced. That is a fact of life.

[Bubba Boy]

This kind of bias and prejudice makes me mad.
"Why, then, do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the rafter in your own eye?", Matthew 7:1-29

So you are basically saying that nobody can say anything bad about another countries legal system because that would mean they are bias and prejudice. Give me a break!

[Vitrea]

I want to bring my computer on my trip to Rio, I am from europe, and I have a new HP with a regular european plug. Can someone please tell me whether I need some kind of adaptor, or if it'll work as it is.

Thanks in advance.

Thanks to wiki.

Brazil is one of a few countries that uses both 120 and 240 volts for everyday appliances. Expect the voltage to change back and forth as you travel from one place to the next -- even within the same Brazilian state, sometimes even within the same building. There is no physical difference in the electric outlets (power mains) for the two voltages.

Electric outlets usually accept both flat (North American), and round (European) plugs. Otherwise adaptors from flat blades to round pins are easy to find in any supermarket or hardware shop. Some outlets are too narrow for the German "Schuko" plugs. The best makeshift solution is to buy a cheap T-connection and just force your "Schuko" in, -the T will break, but it will work. Very few outlets have a grounding point, and some might not accept newer North American polarized plugs, where one pin is slightly larger. Again, use the cheap T. Near the border with Argentina, you might occasionally find outlets for the Australia/New Zealand-type plug. If crossing the border, you'll probably need this adapter as well.

In 2009/2010, a the IEC 60906-1 was introduced in Brazil and some newer buidings already have it. It is backwards compatible with the Europlug, but it has a receded socket. Again, T-plugs can be used as adapters for other common formats.

Frequency is 60Hz, which may disturb 50 Hz electric clocks. Blackouts are less and less frequent, but you always run a risk at peak of high season in small tourist towns.

http://www.kropla.com/electric2.htm

[BionicMan]

I want to bring my computer on my trip to Rio, I am from europe, and I have a new HP with a regular european plug. Can someone please tell me whether I need some kind of adaptor, or if it'll work as it is.

Thanks in advance.

Two pins european will work and taking a two flat oins (USA) adaptor will sort out if soemwhere they are on US sockets
In most cases the socket is dual: two pins euro/USA

[Wonderguy]

I want to bring my computer on my trip to Rio, I am from europe, and I have a new HP with a regular european plug. Can someone please tell me whether I need some kind of adaptor, or if it'll work as it is.

Thanks in advance.

[Fred100]

The first part of your argument is not correct. They did not arrest the person in Brazilian Territory. They arrested her in International Airspace on an American plane, this falls under American law until the plane lands. Upon landing they then turned her over to the Federal Brazilian Police upon arrival. This is standard legal procedure as per the various legal treaties that Brazil has signed. According to the various news articles that reported the happenings, the marshalls followed legal procedure to the letter. Whether you agree with Marshalls or not is not really relevant to this argument.

As to why they chose to leave the country? . Brazil has proven time and time again that they do not have a fair and just legal system. I would do the same thing if I was in the same situation. Luckily the Brazilian legal/immigration system is so inffecient it would be easy to flee the country without a problem. Nobody would want to stick around because Brazil does not respect international laws. Even if you ask your average Brazilian, they are embarassed by their corrupt legal system and scared of their own police.


Look up the David Goldman case, pure example of how a Brazilian with influence can make their own laws.

This goes for any situation that involves you in the Brazilian legal system. If you have the option to run, best take that option. As a gringo your chances of a fair crack of the whip are definitely against you. Non existent, if going up against a Brazilian with connections. The general phychy of the population at all levels does not expect fair play.

[Vitrea]

I went memorial day week 2009 - beaches hot and talent incredible. Especially Thursday before Memorial Day - club packed.

Thank you. That is very helpful.

[B J Lover]

Guys, I am considering a trip to Rio in May and June of next year. According to weather reports it is a bit cool that time of the year. The temperature itself does not bother me but I am worried about possible lack of talent or harder to find good talent in the "low season". Any plusses and minuses of going that time of the year? I am planning 10 days in Rio and 10 days or so further north towards Fortaleza. I would imagine Northeast Brazil is nice that time of the year.

Thank you.

I went memorial day week 2009 - beaches hot and talent incredible. Especially Thursday before Memorial Day - club packed.

[Bubba Boy]

The air marshalls are not judge, jury and executioner. The federal judge was perfectly within his rights to ask for an investigation. The Marshalls have no legal power to arrest a passenger in Brazilian territory as a Brazilian agent would have no right to arrest an American in the USA.

The marshalls would have had top level consular support, so why flee? What bothers me is that the escape plan was ready and executed very smoothly.

The first part of your argument is not correct. They did not arrest the person in Brazilian Territory. They arrested her in International Airspace on an American plane, this falls under American law until the plane lands. Upon landing they then turned her over to the Federal Brazilian Police upon arrival. This is standard legal procedure as per the various legal treaties that Brazil has signed. According to the various news articles that reported the happenings, the marshalls followed legal procedure to the letter. Whether you agree with Marshalls or not is not really relevant to this argument.

As to why they chose to leave the country? . Brazil has proven time and time again that they do not have a fair and just legal system. I would do the same thing if I was in the same situation. Luckily the Brazilian legal/immigration system is so inffecient it would be easy to flee the country without a problem. Nobody would want to stick around because Brazil does not respect international laws. Even if you ask your average Brazilian, they are embarassed by their corrupt legal system and scared of their own police.


Look up the David Goldman case, pure example of how a Brazilian with influence can make their own laws.

[Perkele]

The air marshalls are not judge, jury and executioner. The federal judge was perfectly within his rights to ask for an investigation. The Marshalls have no legal power to arrest a passenger in Brazilian territory as a Brazilian agent would have no right to arrest an American in the USA.

The marshalls would have had top level consular support, so why flee? What bothers me is that the escape plan was ready and executed very smoothly.

Does it now.

Question, since when the americans have assumed their position when clearly wrong????

Honestly....

[Beach Star]

According to various news reports the aircrew asked the marshalls to intervene. According to the article 2 different sources confirmed the arrested lady "bit" one of the marshalls. I really can't see what your point is?

Please also explain the merits of a legal system which arrests 2 airmarshalls in this instance?

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-21/w...es?_s=PM:WORLD

The air marshalls are not judge, jury and executioner. The federal judge was perfectly within his rights to ask for an investigation. The Marshalls have no legal power to arrest a passenger in Brazilian territory as a Brazilian agent would have no right to arrest an American in the USA.

The marshalls would have had top level consular support, so why flee? What bothers me is that the escape plan was ready and executed very smoothly.

[Golfinho]

I spoke to a stewardess recently and she told me that air crews get extra passports valid for one only year so that they can have one passport to travel while the other one is out getting visas.

The 'extra passports' have a 2-year validity. at least mine does.

[MS Clive]

According to various news reports the aircrew asked the marshalls to intervene. According to the article 2 different sources confirmed the arrested lady "bit" one of the marshalls. I really can't see what your point is?

Please also explain the merits of a legal system which arrests 2 airmarshalls in this instance?

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-21/w...es?_s=PM:WORLD

Bubba Boy, Do not pay attention to all these mongrels.

And yes, I do agree that the air marshals were wronged. They will have no problems getting new passports once back in the US. Focus man, focus. Need to refocus on getting the updated version of your esteemed guide. Waiting eagerly for it. Leave these unimportant matters to us mortals.

[Bubba Boy]

Nonsense. The Tokyo convention of 1963 consolidated the rights of airplane commanders, not modern day anti-terrorism air marshals. As I sald before this delinquency on board, IF, it existed, should have been left to the crew to resolve. The crew also has extensive training in dealing with such situations. You have assumed the woman was guilty,just because she is the wife of a judge, which was not proved. If the marshals were so sure of themselves why run so fast when questioned?? The only illegal thing here.crystal clear, seems to be the air marshals exit from Brazil.

According to various news reports the aircrew asked the marshalls to intervene. According to the article 2 different sources confirmed the arrested lady "bit" one of the marshalls. I really can't see what your point is?

Please also explain the merits of a legal system which arrests 2 airmarshalls in this instance?

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-21/w...es?_s=PM:WORLD

[Beach Star]

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]Well actually it is the air marshalls responsibility to act against basically any act that can endanger the safety of a flight according to the "Tokyo convention", of which Brazil has signed. The lady was intoxicated and out of control, biting one of the marshalls, hence deserved to be arrested. If you or I did this, we would surely be arrested and would deserve to be.

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Nonsense. The Tokyo convention of 1963 consolidated the rights of airplane commanders, not modern day anti-terrorism air marshals. As I sald before this delinquency on board, IF, it existed, should have been left to the crew to resolve. The crew also has extensive training in dealing with such situations. You have assumed the woman was guilty,just because she is the wife of a judge, which was not proved. If the marshals were so sure of themselves why run so fast when questioned?? The only illegal thing here.crystal clear, seems to be the air marshals exit from Brazil.