General Info

[Eros74]

I should arrive at airport in Rio about 22:00, I read in Bubba Guide, after the 22:00 the Atm stop working, so how to get fresh reais from atm or change money ? In the guide it was referred tonly to atm in the city or also the ones in the airport ?
Thanks....

[Jan 156]

And I really wish we would not have wasted all that money on our trip to that vastly overrated seafood joint .

Yeah, it was a bit of an anticlimax - hope it gets deleted from the guides. But it was fun doing it in company, so thanks for that. I'd have been in a bad mood for a fortnight if I'd wasted all that time on my own! Have got a list of upmarket restaurants I fancy trying now that aren't quite so far away. Even so, the drive over the hills was quite good.

[Euro100]

I only use reals but have converted them for convenience in reply to a new poster to the Brasil forum.

The apartment I rent is just off Prado Junior. It's a private rent, and that rate is for a two month period, though it's been the same for several years.

The only exception was last year, when someone had offered my landlady silly money. I share her details with friends (including one or two mongers I've met from ISG and hit it off with) but don't post it on the board or PM it otherwise I'm not likely to get it myself! Plus I like to know who I'm introducing to her. There's some nice guys I've met who would I'm afraid blow it by their attitude (not bad attitude, just un-Brasilian attitude!)

But it's fairly typical of a local rent.

I posted some details of the furnishings etc on the other thread. There's no internet which suits me. If I use the a/c a lot I give her a bit more (some trust involved there, sorry Bubba). Otherwise the 45R a night includes electric and gas. Nicely but not extravagantly furnished - she owns it, so it's like someone's home. Separate kitchen dining area, shower and bathroom, nice bedroom, lovely balcony where I can see the beach or enjoy the sun.

The point is, the more you get to know Rio and the more you pick up the carioca lifestyle, the less things cost you.

I have been to the place Chris rents and can vouch for him telling the truth. It is not exactly luxury, but it is not a rat-hole either. It helps that it is a couple of blocks away from the beach.

Even in my two days of interacting with Chris I learned a lot that I had not known in more than 10 previous visits to Rio. I can honestly say he expanded my horizon. It was fun. Of course, in the end I decided that my tastes are a bit different from his, and I am not quite as bargain-conscious. And I really wish we would not have wasted all that money on our trip to that vastly overrated seafood joint . But still, it was great fun to hang with Chris.

[Goga Fung]

Christopherd, thank you for the useful info.

Is basic/intermediate Spanish enough to get by in Brazil/Rio, or I better learn some Portugese?

[Poucolouco]

Does anyone if there are inexpensive bakeries or Creperies near the Marriott area in Rio? Also any good sea food places which will not break the bank near the Help Disco. Thank you

Bakeries :
There is a bakery on Rua Domingos Ferriera, the street behind the Marriott.

2.) Cafeina - Copacabana
Rua Constante Ramos, 44

3.) The Bakers – Copacabana
Rua Santa Clara, 86


Crepes :

1.) Le Blé Noir
Rua Xavier da Silveira, 19

2.) Yonza Crepes
Rua Miguel Lemos, 21

3.) Bibi Crepes
Rua Miguelo Lemos, 31

4.) Bombom Mousse Cafe
Rua Raimundo Corrêa, 60

Seafood: Terraco Atlantico in front of Help has good seafood as do most of the restaurants on Avenida Atlantico.

[TummySangs]

Does anyone if there are inexpensive bakeries or Creperies near the Marriott area in Rio? Also any good sea food places which will not break the bank near the Help Disco.

Thank you

[Jan 156]

$15 sex at Villa Mimosa, but $45 overnight; $20 1 bedroom NICE apartment near the beach!?! Where?? Please share THAT info.

I only use reals but have converted them for convenience in reply to a new poster to the Brasil forum.

The apartment I rent is just off Prado Junior. It's a private rent, and that rate is for a two month period, though it's been the same for several years.

The only exception was last year, when someone had offered my landlady silly money. I share her details with friends (including one or two mongers I've met from ISG and hit it off with) but don't post it on the board or PM it otherwise I'm not likely to get it myself! Plus I like to know who I'm introducing to her. There's some nice guys I've met who would I'm afraid blow it by their attitude (not bad attitude, just un-Brasilian attitude!)

But it's fairly typical of a local rent.

I posted some details of the furnishings etc on the other thread. There's no internet which suits me. If I use the a/c a lot I give her a bit more (some trust involved there, sorry Bubba). Otherwise the 45R a night includes electric and gas. Nicely but not extravagantly furnished - she owns it, so it's like someone's home. Separate kitchen dining area, shower and bathroom, nice bedroom, lovely balcony where I can see the beach or enjoy the sun.

The point is, the more you get to know Rio and the more you pick up the carioca lifestyle, the less things cost you.

[Java Man]

I rarely pay more than 15 dollars for sex, or 45 dollars for an overnight with TLC and GFE. I get a room (a nice one bedroom apartment close to the beach and p4p) for 20 dollars, but you will, I admit, pay more than that until you know the place quite well. If there's competition, I have to pay more.

$15 sex at Villa Mimosa, but $45 overnight; $20 1 bedroom NICE apartment near the beach!?! Where?? Please share THAT info.

[Koolkid]

Thailand is a whole different ball-game. It's more expensive first time you go. After that (except for the flight) it gets cheaper.

Thailand is among the most user-friendly of p4p around. Avoid drugs and you're ok. Any tuk-tuk takes you to the main areas and you can pick up cheap places to stay with minimal effort. Although BKK is a big city, most people only really need to know the triangle of between Nana Plaza, Patpong and maybe the Grand Wat (with stuff inbetween). In other words, its helluva user-friendly.

Rio is not. It's an enormous city where the major suburbs are big enough to make your feet ache, so orientation is a big deal. The games girls play are multi-level. It's so overpowering for most first timers that there's one major buying path, which is synonymous with Copacabana (a main suburb to the south of the city).

Whittle Copacabana down a bit more and you get Help disco pickup and a few brothels. For many, that's all they want. If you are short stay, that's all you have time for. Your first trip lets you know how much there is to learn,and it's a lot (a user-guide to BKK, by comparison, would fit on a postage stamp).

Most experienced mongers quickly tire of Help - although it's such an institution (like Patpong) that it's still a 'must see.' I rarely pay more than 15 dollars for sex, or 45 dollars for an overnight with TLC and GFE. I get a room (a nice one bedroom apartment close to the beach and p4p) for 20 dollars, but you will, I admit, pay more than that until you know the place quite well. If there's competition, I have to pay more.

Both destinations are amazing, for mongering and general tourism/photography. Thailand is nice to fly in and fly out of, especially if you are only there for a short time. Rio involves a lot more hassle, but most people would I think find it worth it. The main mongering difference is the variety of women. It can make the comparatively standard Thai p4p seem like the same old fast food . . .

Well said, after living in Thailand now for 9+ years I'm venturing to Rio for the 1st time in May. I know how to do everything on the cheap here.

But I know, Rio, is going to be whole different story. So I am spending the next few months intel gathering from this site so that I am abit clued up when I land there. But like you said I'm sure it will take afew trips before I get it right!

[Jan 156]

I know most guys arrive with enough bags to fill a taxi, but I'm guessing there must be one or two other weirdos who think along my lines and don't believe in stopping at baggage retrieval. This is for them.

There is an indescribable sense of freedom getting off the plane and just slinging a small bag over your shoulder and then going off hunting where you will. You're not at the mercy of flat-rental hawks cos you can recce the places before you choose. You feel part of Brasil much faster too. Brasilians have a curious easy-come, easy-go attitude to material possessions. Have less to lose, and you worry less about losing it! And if you fancy a side trip to BH or Petropolis, you're all set.

When I started travelling light, my main weight would, curiously enough, be toiletries. With cabin restrictions these days, it's good to know you can get almost anything you need when you get there.

Here's my 'buy on arrival list.' The main essentials come from any 24hr farmacia (I recommend the one on Prado Jnr, but by all means find one closer). Other stuff can wait till the day after you've settled in. All local in Copa (which is very well furnished with everything you need). I'd generally get a nice shirt in Rio Sul when I'm buying a SIM though, and a cheap watch and any top-ups on the socks/shirts front in Centro. There are two expensive items worth buying IMO. One is Mr Cat shoes. The other is a trendy pair of shorts or swimming trunks for the beach.

BUY ON ARRIVAL
shaving gel & razors
listerine mouthwash
soap
condoms - Preserv Xtra are good
(Olla also do a large, 55mm, but I haven't used these)
scissors
Polaramine (for mozzie itch 2 or 6mg)
Diasec (local version of loperamide for diarrhea)
Mazitrom azitromicina (antibiotic for colds or flu).
Emistin cream (also for mozzie itch)
washing up liquid (to wash your togs - or use shampoo)
gym membership
penknife for fruit
change of clothes
cheap watch
SIM card

[Jan 156]

I think thailand is the better choice then for me there I can get a hotel for about 20 dollar a night and the p4p is also cheaper.

Also the flight is cheaper for me.

Brasil will have to wait untill I have a better budget.

Thailand is a whole different ball-game. It's more expensive first time you go. After that (except for the flight) it gets cheaper.

Thailand is among the most user-friendly of p4p around. Avoid drugs and you're ok. Any tuk-tuk takes you to the main areas and you can pick up cheap places to stay with minimal effort. Although BKK is a big city, most people only really need to know the triangle of between Nana Plaza, Patpong and maybe the Grand Wat (with stuff inbetween). In other words, its helluva user-friendly.

Rio is not. It's an enormous city where the major suburbs are big enough to make your feet ache, so orientation is a big deal. The games girls play are multi-level. It's so overpowering for most first timers that there's one major buying path, which is synonymous with Copacabana (a main suburb to the south of the city).

Whittle Copacabana down a bit more and you get Help disco pickup and a few brothels. For many, that's all they want. If you are short stay, that's all you have time for. Your first trip lets you know how much there is to learn,and it's a lot (a user-guide to BKK, by comparison, would fit on a postage stamp).

Most experienced mongers quickly tire of Help - although it's such an institution (like Patpong) that it's still a 'must see.' I rarely pay more than 15 dollars for sex, or 45 dollars for an overnight with TLC and GFE. I get a room (a nice one bedroom apartment close to the beach and p4p) for 20 dollars, but you will, I admit, pay more than that until you know the place quite well. If there's competition, I have to pay more.

Both destinations are amazing, for mongering and general tourism/photography. Thailand is nice to fly in and fly out of, especially if you are only there for a short time. Rio involves a lot more hassle, but most people would I think find it worth it. The main mongering difference is the variety of women. It can make the comparatively standard Thai p4p seem like the same old fast food . . .

[Bernard22]

Please read bubbas guide which will give you all kinds of locations and pricing for the gdp's. Help prices for short time is 100R to 150R and TLN would be 200R to as much as 400 or 500R depends upon your bargining skills. Good luck!! For being there for a month I would recommend an apartment with a doorman. Just pace your self you will have fun.

Thanks for the answer.

I think thailand is the better choice then for me there I can get a hotel for about 20 dollar a night and the p4p is also cheaper.

Also the flight is cheaper for me.

Brasil will have to wait untill I have a better budget.

[Acenva]

I'm sorry to ask this and Im pretty sure this information is somewhere mentioned but I have a hard time finding it.

If I pick up a girl for an hour or a night what are the prices for the girls at help?

I know for example costa rica starts with 80 us dollar and then goes up.

The DR is more like 30 euro for the whole night.

I would love to see a faq with only prices of hotels and mp's etc.

It can be fun to read the stories but it is very time consuming and very often very little information can be extracted. And I have to book in a few days now so time is very important.

There for I ask this question.

How much can I expect to pay for a 25-30 old normal looking girl.

What are the prices of the chepaest hotels.

At this moment I haven't made reservacions for my plane ticket and I'm thinking that Thailand maybe is the better option.

I will be staying for more then a month so a budget is unfortunely a must for me.

Thanks very much

Please read bubbas guide which will give you all kinds of locations and pricing for the gdp's. Help prices for short time is 100R to 150R and TLN would be 200R to as much as 400 or 500R depends upon your bargining skills. Good luck!! For being there for a month I would recommend an apartment with a doorman. Just pace your self you will have fun.

[Rodeo9112]

I'm sorry to ask this and Im pretty sure this information is somewhere mentioned but I have a hard time finding it.

If I pick up a girl for an hour or a night what are the prices for the girls at help?

I know for example costa rica starts with 80 us dollar and then goes up.

The DR is more like 30 euro for the whole night.

I would love to see a faq with only prices of hotels and mp's etc.

It can be fun to read the stories but it is very time consuming and very often very little information can be extracted. And I have to book in a few days now so time is very important.

There for I ask this question.

How much can I expect to pay for a 25-30 old normal looking girl.

What are the prices of the chepaest hotels.

At this moment I haven't made reservacions for my plane ticket and I'm thinking that Thailand maybe is the better option.

I will be staying for more then a month so a budget is unfortunely a must for me.

Thanks very much

Yes, you should go to Thailand. Don't waste your time on these big-assed nympho freaks in Brazil! I hear they're nothing but trouble anyway with their wanting you to fuck them in the ass and not wanting to stop until you cum. Don't even waste your time reading through all of the detailed reports that people spend so much time writing, it's all just for entertainment. Brazil is way overrated.

Oh, as for your question, I think 200reals is a generous contribution nowadays for a Help girl from what I've read. Not that I'm recommending you go to Brazil or anything.

Rodeo

[Bernard22]

I'm sorry to ask this and Im pretty sure this information is somewhere mentioned but I have a hard time finding it.

If I pick up a girl for an hour or a night what are the prices for the girls at help?

I know for example costa rica starts with 80 us dollar and then goes up.

The DR is more like 30 euro for the whole night.

I would love to see a faq with only prices of hotels and mp's etc.

It can be fun to read the stories but it is very time consuming and very often very little information can be extracted. And I have to book in a few days now so time is very important.

There for I ask this question.

How much can I expect to pay for a 25-30 old normal looking girl.

What are the prices of the chepaest hotels.

At this moment I haven't made reservacions for my plane ticket and I'm thinking that Thailand maybe is the better option.

I will be staying for more then a month so a budget is unfortunely a must for me.

Thanks very much