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[Mangera]

I hate to even prolong this - Joe Biden asks this question on various forums like some do-gooder trying to frighten mongers. Biden, if you are a monger, how about you give us some field reports?? Or even tell us what you do to avoid getting HIV??

This nitpicking is both inappropriate on ISG and your specific questions should, as has already been pointed out, go on the appropriate thread. In fact, there is a global thread where you can argue it.

If you are a sexually active adult, you should be taking precautions, consistent with your own judgement on the safety levels you want to assume. If you only ever have sex with one partner, who has never had blood transfusions or sex with anyone else (maybe cos you keep her locked in the cellar?), that is one example near the extreme of safety.

In practice, a monger, like any other sexually active person, should perhaps take precautions (at least IHMO) as if every person they slept with has HIV. In other words, use a condom, find the sort that suits you best, and learn to use it properly in varying conditions. Maybe a bit like, look both ways before crossing the road, look again, and don't do it when your shoe-laces are undone or there's a blind corner.

Trying to demarcate a particular group as more probable is maybe ok for those that have to make judgements on how to target the disease nationally. For individuals it is a form of discrimination that bewails your own lack of responsibility. Take your own health seriously instead of passing the buck to people you sleep with.

Compared to many countries, Brasil has had one of the more effective public health campaigns, so most working girls are very aware and take precautions. Not like the countries beholden to Mr GW Bush and his born-again cronies that condemn condom use.

Now, how about we try to get back on track?

Well said and well done Chris!

[Jan 156]

I hate to even prolong this - Joe Biden asks this question on various forums like some do-gooder trying to frighten mongers. Biden, if you are a monger, how about you give us some field reports?? Or even tell us what you do to avoid getting HIV??

This nitpicking is both inappropriate on ISG and your specific questions should, as has already been pointed out, go on the appropriate thread. In fact, there is a global thread where you can argue it.

If you are a sexually active adult, you should be taking precautions, consistent with your own judgement on the safety levels you want to assume. If you only ever have sex with one partner, who has never had blood transfusions or sex with anyone else (maybe cos you keep her locked in the cellar?), that is one example near the extreme of safety.

In practice, a monger, like any other sexually active person, should perhaps take precautions (at least IHMO) as if every person they slept with has HIV. In other words, use a condom, find the sort that suits you best, and learn to use it properly in varying conditions. Maybe a bit like, look both ways before crossing the road, look again, and don't do it when your shoe-laces are undone or there's a blind corner.

Trying to demarcate a particular group as more probable is maybe ok for those that have to make judgements on how to target the disease nationally. For individuals it is a form of discrimination that bewails your own lack of responsibility. Take your own health seriously instead of passing the buck to people you sleep with.

Compared to many countries, Brasil has had one of the more effective public health campaigns, so most working girls are very aware and take precautions. Not like the countries beholden to Mr GW Bush and his born-again cronies that condemn condom use.

Now, how about we try to get back on track?

[JohnnyBraz]

It is a proven fact that the hiv test gives a false reading so those stats are false. Now if you have stats on how many people have full blown aids that is different.

Well them are from the who site, all being brazil. 07 percent off population, usa. 06 percent off population and australia. 01 percent off population. If you know any different please disclose it.

[Jan 156]

I was just have a little fun, my friend...

That's ok - I know you were

But speaking of fun, have you learnt your carnaval samba song yet?? I've just noticed they're available for download. Just when I thought my Porto was getting not bad . . .

[BionicMan]

Gents,

I was wondering what the HIV/STD situation is in Rio. Have any of you caught anything or have heard anything regarding VD's ?

I know that Brazil has one of the highest HIV rates in South America, obviously a WG is always at a higher risk then others.

Your comments and suggestions will be very much appreciated.

Thank you.

Just go on the WHO website and it will answer to all your questions you spread around many forums on HIV in different countries...

[Jan 156]

I would amend that to say "especially some Brits"...

mea culpa!!

Just for you Jazzy:
I've seen so many situations get out of hand simply cos visitors assumed that what was polite and normal in their country would be similar in Brasil (especially some Brits, but it could be any culture that is radically different to Brasil's).

Though actually I haven't. Brits tend to just stand there and look dumb

No offence intended - One is not better than the other - American (US) culture is more at odds with Brasilian culture than European is IMO. Funnily enough, most of the Americans I've met from ISG have not only been very sensitive to cultural issues but (such as your good self) can blend in better than I can. I think the mongers on here must maybe be a more culturally attuned lot than the ones who aren't.

The other thing is, there are more American tourists in Brasil than most any other tourist (except perhaps for Brasilians). Or should I say 'US tourist' - as Brasilians also think of themselves as 'American' . . . Why isn't there a better word than 'yanks' to describe people from the U.S.A.??

[Jazzy Daddy]

Saw this while browsing in the bookshop today
http://www.amazon.com/Brazil-Culture...0917038&sr=1-1

It's almost an A-Z of the gaffes foreigners make in Brasil, not condescending, and a pretty good guide whether for social or business. I've seen so many situations get out of hand simply cos visitors assumed that what was polite and normal in their country would be similar in Brasil (especially some Americans, but it could be any culture that is radically different to Brasil's).

I would amend that to say "especially some Brits"...

[Jan 156]

Saw this while browsing in the bookshop today
http://www.amazon.com/Brazil-Culture...0917038&sr=1-1

It's almost an A-Z of the gaffes foreigners make in Brasil, not condescending, and a pretty good guide whether for social or business. I've seen so many situations get out of hand simply cos visitors assumed that what was polite and normal in their country would be similar in Brasil (especially some Americans, but it could be any culture that is radically different to Brasil's).

[JohnnyBraz]

Gents,

I was wondering what the HIV/STD situation is in Rio. Have any of you caught anything or have heard anything regarding VD's ?

I know that Brazil has one of the highest HIV rates in South America, obviously a WG is always at a higher risk then others.

Your comments and suggestions will be very much appreciated.

Thank you.

The percent of population with hiv:

Usa. 6 %

Brazil. 7 %

Australia. 1 %

It is hardly any different to the United States.

[Poucolouco]

Gents,

I was wondering what the HIV/STD situation is in Rio. Have any of you caught anything or have heard anything regarding VD's ?

I know that Brazil has one of the highest HIV rates in South America, obviously a WG is always at a higher risk then others.

Your comments and suggestions will be very much appreciated.

Thank you.

There's a thread on Safe Sex in Brasil below.
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ead.php?t=2470

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