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[Mr Enternational]

Mr. E, with all due respect (and I mean it), your last statement is false. It's irresponsible and dangerous to spread disinformation on life-and-death matters, no matter how you personally feel about it. Vaccines train your body to develop immunity to a virus. That's a definition of what vaccines do.

If you mean that immunity will wane with time passing, that's true, and this is why we need boosters.

Okay. Maybe I should have said you do not get guaranteed or permanent immunity. If you did then vaccinated people would not have to continue to wear masks and they could just run up into the lions' den and party with no hope of contracting the disease as it seemed Axel was alluding to.

[Xpartan]

Maybe you can have natural immunity without taking the vaccine. I have done more times than I can count, since this thing started, just what you said I would have to be out of my mind to do and nothing. Fit as a fiddle. Matter of fact I am just getting back from Brazil this morning and leaving my doctor's appointment for a regular check-up. I must be doing something right. By the way, you do not get any immunity by being vaccinated.

Mr. E, with all due respect (and I mean it), your last statement is false. It's irresponsible and dangerous to spread disinformation on life-and-death matters, no matter how you personally feel about it. Vaccines train your body to develop immunity to a virus. That's a definition of what vaccines do.

If you mean that immunity will wane with time passing, that's true, and this is why we need boosters. There is nothing unique about it (shingles, pneumonia, MMR, etc.).

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...u-need-to-know

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/vaccine-booster-shots

[Nordico]

https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equili...ampaign=comptw

The Municipal Health Department of Sao Paulo says it will be difficult to ensure that travelers without a vaccine against Covid-19 are actually quarantined. The capital of Sao Paulo, even so, intends to monitor these people to prevent them from circulating in the city. "But we go daily to the places chosen by these people to be isolated".

[Axel Heyst]

Maybe you can have natural immunity without taking the vaccine. I have done more times than I can count, since this thing started, just what you said I would have to be out of my mind to do and nothing. Fit as a fiddle. Matter of fact I am just getting back from Brazil this morning and leaving my doctor's appointment for a regular check-up. I must be doing something right. By the way, you do not get any immunity by being vaccinated.

Yeah, I am fine with natural immunity, but the governments of the world are now requiring proof of vaccination for entry, so it is going to get harder and harder to travel without said proof.

[The Cane]

By the way, you do not get any immunity by being vaccinated.

You're entitled to your own opinions, but we're all better off listening to expert immunologists who rely upon established medical science versus following your misguided opinions.

[Mr Enternational]

I don't really want to get too political here because I strongly believe that if somebody does not want to get vaxed that is his or her own business, you have to be out of your mind to travel to travel a foreign country and mix it up with local girls in bars and bordellos, if you have not been vaxed 2 or 3 times or had Covid in the past and thus built up a natural immunity.

Maybe you can have natural immunity without taking the vaccine. I have done more times than I can count, since this thing started, just what you said I would have to be out of my mind to do and nothing. Fit as a fiddle. Matter of fact I am just getting back from Brazil this morning and leaving my doctor's appointment for a regular check-up. I must be doing something right. By the way, you do not get any immunity by being vaccinated.

[Nordico]

https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidi...ampaign=comptw

Google translation of the main parts of the article;.

"From next Saturday (11), new rules for the entry of travelers into Brazil will come into effect. Those who arrive on international flights and are not immunized against Covid-19 will have to present the disease test, carried out up to 72 hours before boarding, and comply with a five-day quarantine. At the land border, proof of vaccination or negative test will be required.

Under the new rule, the idea is that travelers on international flights continue filling out a form required by Anvisa, called DSV (Traveller's Health Declaration), before boarding.

In this document, they must indicate where they will spend the quarantine in Brazil, if they are not vaccinated, and make a commitment to cover the expenses during the isolation period. Whoever presents a certificate of immunization will be released from the isolation period.

If the traveler tests positive at the end of the quarantine period, he / she must continue in isolation, following Health rules.

In addition, inspectors at Brazilian airports must check the immunization certificates of those who claimed to have received the vaccine.

Failure to comply with health rules can lead to foreigners being deported. Brazilians, on the other hand, can respond to civil, administrative and criminal actions".

[Axel Heyst]

A short version of the article.

"The Jair Bolsonaro (PL) government decided to require a five-day quarantine for unvaccinated travelers entering Brazil. Under the new rule, whoever presents a certificate of immunization against Covid and a negative test can cross the border without going through the isolation period.

The change was announced this Tuesday (7) by ministers Ciro Nogueira (Casa Civil), Marcelo Queiroga (Health) and Bruno Bianco (General Attorney of the Union) and contradicts Bolsonaro's denial speech.

Unvaccinated travelers must be tested for Covid-19 on the fifth day of isolation. If the result is negative, they can circulate in Brazil.

There are still no details on how the quarantine of unvaccinated people will be organized and monitored. The representatives of the ministries must meet again on Wednesday (8) to finalize an ordinance with the new rules. The idea is to publish the text after the conversation, in the afternoon".

I don't really want to get too political here because I strongly believe that if somebody does not want to get vaxed that is his or her own business, you have to be out of your mind to travel to travel a foreign country and mix it up with local girls in bars and bordellos, if you have not been vaxed 2 or 3 times or had Covid in the past and thus built up a natural immunity. It just ain't going to be a fun trip if you don't have proof of vaccination and it might turn into a disaster if you catch the virus.

[Nordico]

I could not read your article since it wants a payment. The funny thing is that I am with a nurse in Rio right now. She works with covid patients and has never even had a covid test. She said if they are not showing symptoms then they do not give them a test.

A short version of the article. The autocorrection had hard time writing Portuguese.

"O governo Jair Bolsonaro (PL) decidiu exigir uma quarentena de cinco dias de viajantes ando vacinados que entrarem no Brasil. Pela nova regra, quem apresentar o certificado de imunizao contra a Covid e teste negativo poder cruzar a fronteira sem passar pelo perodo de isolamento.

A mudana foi anunciada nesta another sitea-feira (7) pelos ministros Ciro Nogueira (Casa Civil), Marcelo Queiroga (Sade) e Bruno Bianco (Advocacia-Geral the Unio) e contraria o discurso negacionista de Bolsonaro.

Os viajantes ando vacinados devem realizar um teste para a Covid-19 no quinto DIA de isolamento. Se o resultado for negativo, podem circular no Brasil.

Ainda ando h detalhes sobre como ser organizada e fiscalizada a quarentena dos ando vacinados. Os representantes dos ministrios devem voltar a se reunir na quarta-feira (8) para finalizar uma portaria com as novas regras. A ideia publicar o texto depois the conversa, tarde".

And translated by google;.

"The Jair Bolsonaro (PL) government decided to require a five-day quarantine for unvaccinated travelers entering Brazil. Under the new rule, whoever presents a certificate of immunization against Covid and a negative test can cross the border without going through the isolation period.

The change was announced this Tuesday (7) by ministers Ciro Nogueira (Casa Civil), Marcelo Queiroga (Health) and Bruno Bianco (General Attorney of the Union) and contradicts Bolsonaro's denial speech.

Unvaccinated travelers must be tested for Covid-19 on the fifth day of isolation. If the result is negative, they can circulate in Brazil.

There are still no details on how the quarantine of unvaccinated people will be organized and monitored. The representatives of the ministries must meet again on Wednesday (8) to finalize an ordinance with the new rules. The idea is to publish the text after the conversation, in the afternoon".

[Mr Enternational]

The Brazilian government is planning a five days quarantine for unvaccinated travelers. https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equili...ampaign=comptw.

I could not read your article since it wants a payment. The funny thing is that I am with a nurse in Rio right now. She works with covid patients and has never even had a covid test. She said if they are not showing symptoms then they do not give them a test.

[Nordico]

The Brazilian government is planning a five days quarantine for unvaccinated travelers. https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equili...ampaign=comptw.

[John Clayton]

Any update on Fortaleza?

I posted in the Fortaleza forum:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...leza&p=2634917#post2634917.

[Sperto]

I got one about two weeks ago when I left Fortaleza.

Any update on Fortaleza?

[John Clayton]

Most but not all pharmacy / drug stores test for covid. Testing locations usually have large signs reading "covid teste aqui" posted in front of the store. My experience is that no appt is necessary. Ymmv.

I got one about two weeks ago when I left Fortaleza. I did okay with "Covid test", "antigen test", etc; however, my poor Portuguese utterly failed when I was paying and the clerk asked me, "Do you have the Pague Menos discount card" -it took me a full minute to figure that out. Also, when you're filling out your address (endereço) it's the local address of your hotel.

[Axel Heyst]

Most pharmacies in SP have 15 minute rapid antigen tests that is acceptable for entry into the USA. Many allow for walk-ins but if you are concerned just ask the day before. You do not need a PCR test. Discussed in the forum many times before.

Most but not all pharmacy / drug stores test for covid. Testing locations usually have large signs reading "covid teste aqui" posted in front of the store. My experience is that no appt is necessary. Ymmv.

Thanks guys. That took a load off. Getting tested on a Sunday was my concern.

I searched my SP google map and found this site:

https://www.drogariasaopaulo.com.br/...dpsp_story3-v2

I will make a walking appointment before my flight.