2004 Sao Paulo Reports

[MoonDog]

TravelMen,

It was great to hook up with you and hang out along Augusta. We had a great time. Looking forward to seeing you in BA.

Moondog

[MoonDog]

I know the girl you are talking about. In case you did not know, Chinese mobsters have invested money into Cafe Foto (some say they own the whole thing and just have Brazilian front men).

In any case, she fvcks one of the mobsters so I don't think she is going to get fired anytime soon. The Asian men in Sao Paulo seem to be buying up every blonde in the city. Every blonde hooker seems to have a Asian sugar daddy these days.

Rio Nut,

Thanks for the input. At 10-1 in the Asian's favor, it is not hard to see the reason the girls are paid huge sums of money from the Asian camp.

Moondog

[JavMav]

Hey man, researching is great, but not while "in country!"

I've done the same damn thing. I've spent half my mongering day going through the details.

If you're not going again and again to Sao Paulo, I suggest you go to Bomboa. Go early evening, go hungry and thirsty enough for 5-6 drinks. Those things are included in your cover price, so you don't want to waste it.

PROMISE yourself you will spend 90 minutes prior to choosing a girl. PROMISE you will test drive 3 girls on the main floor before going upstairs. If you violate either of these rules, PROMISE that you will stay long enough to get horny again, and take another girl upstairs for $65.

In the middle of the day, almost any of the massage places will be a wonderful experience. If you must research more, choose only 3 MP's on GPGUIA.net, then choose 3 girls highly reviewed from each. That gives you 9 girls to choose. Then, call the places directly and ask if they are working.

The internet girls have been negatively reviewed 75% of the time, and the photos are often reported faked and/or doctored.

I'm off to BA next week, and San Jose the week after. In keeping with my own advice, I'm off to FINISH my research while stuck in SexPrison, USA.

Jav'

[Coupe66]

Encanto and Cabrio, nice to hear from you guys. I am also in Jardins, will be here untill next sunday. I have tried to enable my PM´s but it doesn´t work for some reason. Last night I went out with this austrian / canadian guy I met at the airport. First we had a meal, a walk along Paulista to check out the chicks. Then got a cab to Millenium (20 reals). Arrived about midnight. Nice place, girls were a bit slim for my tastes and a bit slim on the ground (saturday night is quiet appartently). Anyway, my Canadain buddy porked this ´very pretty but slightly anorexic for my taste´ blonde. He negotiated 200 relas with her but apparently she charged him 240 reals on his Visa. Played pool with some chicks but there was nothing I really fancied there.

Next Wednesday is their anniversary party there, so it should be busy. From there we headed downtown to Kilts around 2, was relatively lively but getting late. A few more curvier chicks but nothing special. Left Kilt at 3, tried Coctail but it was closing. A nice looking girl outside walked with us to Love Story, but when we got there we thought it looked pretty dodgy, loads of young guys crushing to get in. So we walked back to Big Ben instead, just round the corner from Kilt. Although it was late by then, I think I will head back there next week, Monday or tuesday, because I think I will find more my type there (Curvier, more exotic girls). Never had any trouble with paying bills, getting ripped off etc. Although my partner in crime could have got us into trouble in dodgier circustances. He insisted on taking the girl out past the security to get a photo of her at Millunium (his camera was in a locker), obvoiusly they were worried we might be leaving without paying the bill.

Then at Kilt he complaned that it was no good and wanted to leave after we had accepted the drinks card, until I told him it was Kilts when he remembered that´s where he wanted to go in the first place, so then he decided he liked it?!? Then at Big Ben he asked the barman what was the best club in Sao Paulo, well which fucking club did he think he was going to say ??? Then he congratulated the barman for having a heart, having married one of ex hookers there, before giving him his address in Canada and telling him he could come and stay anytime, then finally knocking his beer all over the bar and the barman !!!!! Oh yes and I forgot, on the way to Love Story on foot at 3 in the morning in downtown SP he was telling me how safe the downtown was, and not to worry if we talked at the top of our voice in English !!! Don´t get me wrong, he is a really nice guy, but I think in a city like SP you have to think of your safetly first, especially as it was our first ever night going out there !!!

Entrance to Millenium was 70 reals including 2 drinks, or 1 if a spirit (although I had 3 beers, played pool and it was still only 70 reals). Entrance to Kilt was 35 including 1 drink (paid 38 on exit including the stupid extra tax). Big Ben was 1 drink minimum (15 reals). My Love is closed as to my prior report as some work is going on there, maybe they are repairing the damage from an uzi inspired shootout, ha ha !!!

Anyway, tonight I will take it easy cause the clubs are all shut but tomorrow night I will be in Big Ben (Rue Augusta) from about 10.30 - 11 PM, so maybe see you there guys!!

[Member #4643]

This is a note in the category of, "its good to know this is really true."

I was at Bomboa last Wednesday, and I was talking to a tall and rather shapely 21 year old girl when the manager came out and took her off the floor. The issue was her HIV test, which she was supposed to have had in November, but had skipped. She was sent home and told not to come back without a doctor's note.

Of course, I have heard that the boites force their girls to be screened for STDs regularly, but I never really believed it. Another girl I was with at the time [a stunning young (20 yo), small and very tight morena named Kuanne who was fantastic in every aspect, especially BBBJ] told me that Bomboa requires a screen every 3 months.

Kuanne, incidentally, gave me her cell phone for a hotel visit. For 300 reals, she spent three hours at my hotel. A bit pricey, but definitely a great time. I will be happy to share her photo and cell phone number for interested parties if you PM me your email address.

[TravelMen]

Thanks for the reply. I am surprised any one else knows her.

I had no idea about the chinese guys. I just assumed it was the local mob who pay off the police to stay open.

Have you had her your self?
How do you know she is doing the mobster.

I am surprised she gets away with this much.
Surely
1. The mobster doesn't want Foto getting a bad name and
2. If it's his girl friend he would not want her working there.

I assume these guys are well off.

I thought she had some kind of connection. She new if she did me over there was nothing I could do.

So how much power do these guys have?
I was amased that all the security at the Renaissance were just dismissed by her, and they let me in.
If I had chased after her and taken the money back ny force, could they of got to me in the hotel?

Out of interest the number she (expensively) dialed from my hotel phone was
01797276639
Any idea where that is.

She was a real nasty, spoilt arrogant ***** though. Grrrr.

[Cabrio]

Coupe 66 whats up:

Its Saturday night. Im here in Jardins too for a few days. Just arrived yesterday. Plenty of actions here in Jardins...lots of private casas and escorts from malicia sexdreams, etc. Send me a PM for info.

Cabrio

[Ecanto]

Hi there,

Concerning a map for Sao paulo, I am using the following website:

http://mapas.terra.com.br/mapas/

It's fairly good if you have an address and try to locate it on the map - although it is a bit slow.

I will be arriving in Sao paulo on Monday for three days, so if you're still there we may be able to meet up. I still have to select a hotel though. I am still hesitating between a hotel in Centro and one close to Avenida Paulista.

Greetings,

PS : I dont seem able to send you PMs - your box seem to be disabled!

[Coupe66]

Well, this is my second night here, and I still haven´t got laid !!!! There seems to be an inverse relationship between research and getting laid, ie I went back into the internet cafe tonight to check a couple of details before heading out. I thought the club Millenium was on Avenue Brigadero Luis, which I know, but now it appears that is another bar with a similar name ?!?! The correct address for Café Millenium is Rua Coronel Diogo , 1199 - Jd. da Glória (Ipiranga), correct ??? How far / how much would that cost from Jardins by Taxi ?

On checking www.gpguia.net several clubs seem very well frequented and get largely positive reviews, but I do not see anything about them on the WSG reviews. Has anybody been to Tivoli night club (39 reviews), Connexion (245 reviews !!!!), Baccos Night club, in São Bernardo do Campo, wherever that is ?? (71 reviews), Vagao Plaza (47 reviews), Black Moon (65 reviews).

Next question. Is there any point trying the clubs on a saturday or sunday night ? Are any of ther clubs on Rua Augusta worth visiting, doubt it !!!

Also, for the massage parlours, nobody seems to mentions the Cherry massage parlour (555 reviews, 477 of them positive). Clinica Kin (224 reviews) or Quatro Estacoes (111 revues, 96 positive, although girls do not look that great to me !!!), Clinica Malicia (43 reviews). The web sites for most of these massage parlours show the girls, unlike for Francebel, I have just checked them all.

What about Clinica Berrini (90 reviews), plently of girls, but I have seen one of them on another massage parlour website. Center clinica looks good and gets good reviews. There are also Celcenter, Clinica Zen, Advance Vip brooklin (massage parlour overload !!!!). I get the impression that Berrini and Celcenter are the most upscale / expensive of the massage parlours, is that correct ?

And last annoying question of the night, does any particular nightclub / massage parlour have more curvy / voluptous types, my type !!! This may seem a stupid question but I have seen from my travels that each club can tend to favour a certain type, or have girls from partciular countries / areas.

Well it is now 3.20 AM so I think I have done enough research for tonight, maybe if I can walk back to my hotel without getting mugged I might actually get my hands on a sexy lady tomorrow instead of being an internet nerd !!!! Man, this research is hard work !!!!

For a good map of Sao Paulo, www.guiamais.com.br has a pretty decent one, does anybody know another one / a better one maybe ???

If anyone can help with my queries it would be very much appreciated. Also, regarding my last posting, looking forward to mongering with some fellow SP visitors.

[Coupe66]

Pro,

Thanks for the advice! Well I arrived here last night. My trip on the airport bus to Jardins nearly took as long as my flight from BA (an hour and a half) and was feeling pretty dead last night so just had a walk along Paulista and a nice meal around 10 pm, not much action around. Today, after admiring some of the gorgeous lunchtime women on Paulista I decided to be brave and venture downtown. Last time I was here I spent 5 days playing safe in Jardins / Paulista so was determined not to be such a pussy this time.

I headed down Augusta on foot, finlly made it downtown. It is another world down here, defenitely not too many stunners here, that is for sure. Sao Paulo is strange, seems the women are either sexy as hell or seriously ugly. And compared to BA ther seems to be a virtually total lack of cafes or internet cafes for that matter. One very big guy gave me a mean look and his eyes followed me as I walked several blocks away. Pretty unnerving experience though. Otherwise have had no problems. Right now am in some internet cafe beside the huge and impressive cathedral. Better head back before it gets dark, if you don´t hear from me again I guess I am dead.

Anyway, back to the chicks. If anyone wants to meet up to tour some clubs would be more than willing. Am an experienced monger in BA but not here. Am in my mid 30´s and in pretty good shape, for the chicks that is. I suppose between the clubs, the massage parlours and the internet chicks I am pretty spoilt for choice, so better get started !!! If the Canadian / Austrian guy I met at the airport yesterday reads this, get in touch and we can chack out some action together. Anyone else, let me know a time and a place and I will be there.

Does anyone use Sexdreams, I found some ladies there I think are gorgeous, but I am beginning to suspect serious photoshop intervention, as some of the same ladies on other websites don´t look half as good. Anyone ?? By the way, I also walked past ´Kilt´ today, is ´My love´ opposite ? Well anyway, it was open and they were refurbishing it, so I guess it won´t be open tonight.

OK, I´m chickening off back to Jardins !!!

[Prosal]

Travemen, good report ... I've heard good things about Moulin Rouge (it's in Moema, right ?) but never been yet. Your post act as a reminder to put it on my "to do" list.

Anyway Love Story remains the best in town !!!

Cheers

[Rio Nut]

I know the girl you are talking about. In case you did not know, Chinese mobsters have invested money into Cafe Foto (some say they own the whole thing and just have Brazilian front men).

In any case, she fvcks one of the mobsters so I don't think she is going to get fired anytime soon. The Asian men in Sao Paulo seem to be buying up every blonde in the city. Every blonde hooker seems to have a Asian sugar daddy these days.

[TravelMen]

Just a quick report on my SP trip.

Firstly a great thanks to Raiders, BiggieSmalls and Moondog for meeting up. Three great guys who know the scene as well as any one.

So:

Francabel: As reported a great place for day time action. I had a great hour with a lovely girl, and a good performer. I got there around 2pm and most of the stunners were not available.

Donna Café: Went there one night. It was pretty dead and expensive for what you get. Took a girl from here who gave me a good time though.

Jardin America: The guys took me here and got treated very well. I think I saw the best girls in SP here, all be it at a price. Also, later in the evening there seemed to be more guys than girls. So go early, before 10pm.

Moulin Rouge: This had some nice girls and much lower prices than the normal places. I didn’t take out though.

Café Foto: The first girl I took from here was great. Apparently a lot of girls from the closed Bahamas are here now, which may explain the numbers and high quality.
The second I took out was the WORST experience I have ever had. Guys, AVOID this girl. She came to the hotel and I paid her the 500 plus taxi money.
She makes a phone call on my hotel phone which I later find out was international (50 Reas). And she orders room service. Then before any action starts she runs out.
I actually went back to Foto and complained to the manager. He told me she would be fired, but I doubt that. He also promised to email me after he had spoken to her, but never did. It was my last day.
So to avoid this crook, her name is some thing like Garuta, she is blonde, young with a good body, and a tattoo of a dragon on her back near the shoulder. She seems to arrive early and likes to leave early. Also wears expensive designer stuff. I know how she can afford that now. She boasted about her $400 Prada trousers from Italy.
I also think she is connected’ ?
When the hotel (renaissance) asked her to register she just dismissed them in an arrogant fashion and they let her in. Every other girl was forced to register.
In Café Foto she approached me, which is against the rules. No other girl approached me when I was there. She seemed to know that she could screw me over and that there was nothing I could do.
If any one does see her please PM me, or report it. Then we know that Café Foto could not care less about us visiting gringo’s.

Love Story: I went here late after my bad Foto experience. A crazy place, and worth a visit. At 8am I took back a cute blonde who I think works at Vagao, for a bargain price of 100. The funny thing is, that out of all the girls I had there, she was the best.

Hope this is some help; at least avoid the Foto girl.

[Prosal]

Is the Parthenon the Excellence in Jardins, I am not sure ? The full address is Rua Capote Valente, 500 - Jd. América
São Paulo - SP
BRASIL

Anyone know it ? Any good ?

You'll be fine there.

Parthenon Excellence is in Pinheiros, Rua C.Valente, where Bomboa is located. Loads of regulars bars close also.

Nice and moderns well-equiped one bedroom apartments, perfect locations, cheap rates : Parthenons are IMO the best deal in SP.

Pro.

[Member #2329]

Shoes don't make the man to any of these Brazilian girls. The thick wad in your wallet is all they are really thinking about.