Sao Paulo Reports

[Rahsta]

It shouldn't rain that much as December to March. I only noticed a drastic reduction of talent during Christmas and New Year weeks 'cause girls go to visit their families.

June can bring southeast cold weather, cold enough to fall some snow in Porto Alegre. Make sure your hotel or air bnb has heating.

Pictures attached of Porto Alegre, 650 miles south Sao Paulo, during the same June week.

I rather prefer November-December 'cause I love to pick ficha rosas from car and bike events, but May June is just fine.

How about around Easter. Good Friday?

[HiddenEye]

It shouldn't rain that much as December to March. I only noticed a drastic reduction of talent during Christmas and New Year weeks 'cause girls go to visit their families.

June can bring southeast cold weather, cold enough to fall some snow in Porto Alegre. Make sure your hotel or air bnb has heating.

Pictures attached of Porto Alegre, 650 miles south Sao Paulo, during the same June week.

I rather prefer November-December 'cause I love to pick ficha rosas from car and bike events, but May June is just fine.

Hey,

Planning a month long trip to Sao Paulo and would love to connect with some of you.

I read some chatter about how it gets very rainy and girla flock away from SP.

Wondering if May is a good time to visit?

If not, what other month is a good time to visit.

Also reading about Scandallo and other clubs, what's the going price for entrt / girls / room?

[Above Average]

I will be arriving in Sao Paulo in April and this will be my first time in Brazil. I'm looking to gather some basic intel.

My friends told me that SP is a nice city with lots of upscale establishments, but not a lot of touristy things to do. I'm arriving in SP because it's cheaper to fly there than RDJ, and because my brief amount of research is leading me to believe that SP is probably the best city in Brazil for mongering. Is this true? Is it even better than RDJ?

What are the best websites / apps to use to meet non-pro girls? Would it be Tinder, Facebook, Seeking Arrangements, or something else?

I've found a few good looking websites for meeting professionals. One in particular is:

https://garotacomlocal.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo-sp/

Is this a trustworthy website with realistic pictures? I didn't see it mentioned in the "Sao Paulo. Directory" thread so I'm not sure.

And since everybody is comparing Brazil to Colombia now, I'd just like to state that Medellin is great, but I had to try something new after my last visit was marred by flakey facebook girls and the prevalence of those god awful butt-surgeries. Even though it's commonly called the "Brazillian butt lift" I've heard that it is less prevalent in Brazil than it is in many places in Colombia. I hope that's true.

I like slender girls with a natural body (boob jobs are fine), and a darker skin tone, and in Colombia I found that those types of girls were undervalued compared to their fair-skinned, silicone-loaded counterparts. I hope that my tastes are as advantageous in Brazil as they are in Colombia.

[MiamiBoy1]

You won't see an change in the supply, if you were never there in the first place.

Literally. However, you wouldn't see this in effect, if you were never there.

We were discussing Medellin. Nounce brought that up and I replied. I'm currently in MDE and have spent more time here than you. Based on what you wrote in one of your recent posts (about "no mongering scene in El Centro and Parque Lleras" I have come to the conclusion that you have no freaking idea about mongering in MDE.

[Nounce]

I don't see an increase in supply. If this was the case, the rates would go down ....

I have not said there is an increase in supply.

... but in reality, they surely go up, outpacing the rate of inflation. Either there is no increase of supply at all, or the increase in demand outweighs the increase in supply. Nothing unique about it.

I already have formed my opinion so I am going to take advantage of it. I think the people talking about paradise, or living a fantasy have formed the conclusion too but I don't think your conclusion is final yet. Often we miss thing only after it's gone. I am curious to know do people mention "regret" when Hope was around?

[MiamiBoy1]

I don't think there's anything special, rather the weakness of the COP and Colombia (specifically Medellin) becoming a broader tourist destination has resulted in more cheap flights from more cities. With this came the weekend millionaires who previously went to the DR and CR. I have definitely noticed a change in the type of monger and tourists visiting over my 12 years of travel to MDE. I think people will eventually rotate back to Brazil and Mexico City is picking up steam.

Cheap flights? I can't vouch for other cities, but roundtrips from Miami have never been so expensive as they are right now. American Airlines want $650 (economy, 3. 5 HR flight), WTF? Even JetBlue and Spirit are $400-$500 and up. For years flights from Miami were around $200-$250 tops, roundtrip.

[Eszpresszo]

I don't think there's anything special, rather the weakness of the COP and Colombia (specifically Medellin) becoming a broader tourist destination has resulted in more cheap flights from more cities. With this came the weekend millionaires who previously went to the DR and CR. I have definitely noticed a change in the type of monger and tourists visiting over my 12 years of travel to MDE. I think people will eventually rotate back to Brazil and Mexico City is picking up steam.

You might have a point there. Until their recent demise, Medellin based Viva was flying out of Miami. These past visits in recent month I saw more foreign tourists there than in the past as well as African American men, which I never used to see in Colombia. Note that Viva went under recently. I guess the "Spirit Airlines" of Colombia didn't have the staying power. I caught my flight to GRU on Viva and I must say I won't miss those hard seats. Way too hard to be using for a 6-hour flight. But, still a value and I was planning to take Viva back to Colombia.

[Eszpresszo]

I don't see an increase in supply. If this was the case, the rates would go down, but in reality, they surely go up, outpacing the rate of inflation. Either there is no increase of supply at all, or the increase in demand outweighs the increase in supply. Nothing unique about it.

You won't see an change in the supply, if you were never there in the first place. It's like these people who go to prives or clubs that are mentioned here, and they say "I didn't see anything there". Of course, they didn't see anything there. Because they were never there in the first place, and you are no different in that respect.

Yes, supply and demand is in effect in this industry in South America. I have had a first hand view of it, recently. Went and spent three days in the Praia Grande / Sao Vincente area to hang out with a cute woman I met on Insta. She never put out for me, but we have stayed friends and she actually introduced me to another pretty lady who is a better match for me. Though that has yet to come to fruition. But, to the point, I went looking for my options on Photoacompanhates and found there was a slew of attractive girls in the range of 100-150 reais. Not what I'd expect in a tourist town. This is the greater Santos metropolitan area, just over the hills from Sao Paulo, where the media price is twice as much. I ended up leaving early and heading down to Florianopolis, where I am well acquainted with a lovely "terapista" who specializes in nuru massage with an oral finalization!

BTW, Florianopolis is the epicenter of the nuru / tantra scene in Brazil. There seems to be a steady supply of pretty but crazy young women who think that they are doing some sacred or holistic ritual through tantric massage or nuru, which they assert is pure therapy ore an exercise in spiritualism and in no way is it sex or prostitution. I think if you charge me 300 - 500 reais to slather my body in oil and rub your young nubile body on mine and make me cum, it is at least sexual. But, don't tell them that.

However, I decided to check out what the pure mongering scene was about. To my surprise there wasn't a lot to find on PA, and though there were more girls listed other websites focusing more on Santa Catarina and the region, the overall body count was low for a metropolitan area of that size. And I guess that is why prices were more on a Sao Paulo range. Starting at 150 and on up to 400. I was surprised, but maybe I shouldn't have been. There was the consolation that all these girls have their own place to work out of, and you don't need to pay for love hotel, as some of the prissy SP girls will mandate. But, that is probably because there are very few love hotels on the island of Florianopolis itself. The few I found were very expensive, though lavish. So, the women can't throw the burden of paying for a room on the client and thus have to absorb that cost for a workspace. And real estate ain't cheap on Floripa. There were few brothels on the island itself. There was a gentlemens club close to where I stayed, which I read was very nice but expensive. Used to be two prives at the end of the pedestrian commercial district of centro, on Rua Tiradentes and Rua Felipe Schmidt and there were young people (including young women) handing out small flyers for them nearby. However, its down to one now and it was never open when I went by. You have to go over the bridge to Sao Jose if you want more brothels and not surprisingly they are more abundant and cheaper, as is the selection of independent GPS. Yes, Economics 101. Literally. However, you wouldn't see this in effect, if you were never there.

[Chicago85]

What is so unique about the current hobbying situation in Medellin? Is the invasion of Venes due to the political crisis across the border providing a lot of hot women at cheap pricing? Is the recent reported sharp uptick in druggings / crimes against hobbyists all fake news? Are there new rules, regulations or lifting of prohibitions that has enhanced the mongering scene there? Are you referring to the weak COP vs. Western currency?
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I don't think there's anything special, rather the weakness of the COP and Colombia (specifically Medellin) becoming a broader tourist destination has resulted in more cheap flights from more cities. With this came the weekend millionaires who previously went to the DR and CR. I have definitely noticed a change in the type of monger and tourists visiting over my 12 years of travel to MDE. I think people will eventually rotate back to Brazil and Mexico City is picking up steam.

[MiamiBoy1]

There is a large population of available girls that either don't have work or don't want to work because the pay is low. This is reflected on Facebook, Seeking, Tinder, Cam sites and IG. You can just go online to count. I don't know another city that comes close to the quantity available.

There are many ponds to play in. You will have to go read Medellin thread to see if you can find one you like. I will send you the links to different ISG members' posts privately.

For shorter term and for new visitors, Brazil is better. Longer term, like months, I think Medellin probably will be better.

I don't see an increase in supply. If this was the case, the rates would go down, but in reality, they surely go up, outpacing the rate of inflation. Either there is no increase of supply at all, or the increase in demand outweighs the increase in supply. Nothing unique about it.

[Batraaa]

Hey,

Planning a month long trip to Sao Paulo and would love to connect with some of you.

I read some chatter about how it gets very rainy and girla flock away from SP.

Wondering if May is a good time to visit?

If not, what other month is a good time to visit.

Also reading about Scandallo and other clubs, what's the going price for entrt / girls / room?

[Nounce]

Perhaps I am dense, but this post like your previous post is quite cryptic and doesn't explain what is currently so unique and good about Medellin.

There is a large population of available girls that either don't have work or don't want to work because the pay is low. This is reflected on Facebook, Seeking, Tinder, Cam sites and IG. You can just go online to count. I don't know another city that comes close to the quantity available.

There are many ponds to play in. You will have to go read Medellin thread to see if you can find one you like. I will send you the links to different ISG members' posts privately.

For shorter term and for new visitors, Brazil is better. Longer term, like months, I think Medellin probably will be better.

[WyattEarp]

Prices have gone up but not to this magnitude; you can't compare the prices to those in US; girls in the US are not affordable for most american and its illegal. You should compare it to Colombia or Peru where its much much cheaper for the same service.

I think people are expecting inflation to increase consistently across the board. Food, hotels, hookers, etc.

We were just talking on the Montreal thread that freelancers that were charging 350-400 Canadian dollars pre-Covid are now charging 500-600. (For several years, Canada essentially has legalized sex transactions conducted privately.).

Anyone who has done business in inflationary environments knows its easier to raise prices. The girls are testing these limits. I suspect things will stabilize. When the global money printing orgy is far behind us, we will get more rational mongering prices. I believe the Brazilian Central Bank was printing quite a bit of money during the pandemic.

[Steve 9696]

I'll keep it a bit briefer than Socrates but having been to both I totally align with his friends. My experience in Colombia is:

1. The clubs suck and are a tourist trap ripoff.

2. Facebook girls are easy and plentiful and fairly cheap.

3. The Facebook girls can't hold a candle to your average Brasileira whenbit comes to GFE. Weak BJ, light to moderate DFK and you can clearly tell they are there to "do their job". Whereas as has been pointed out numerous times, Brasileiras rule here.

4. Did have one gem that a friend referred me to. But that was the exception not the rule.

I have friends that swear by Colombia. Most have not been to Brasil. 😋 But for my money Brasil stomps Colombia and frankly is the finest garota venue on planet earth.

[The Cane]

As I said, I've never been to Colombia, so these are the opinions of my friends who are experienced in Colombia and finally discovered Brazil during and post pandemic. Almost all of them would now choose Brazil over Colombia.

I have been to Colombia. A lot! And what your friends tell you is true. Plus there's what you already know. I'm like them. I would never choose Colombia over Brazil. At least not the way things stand now. And there's nothing "wrong" with that.