Sao Paulo Reports

[Axel Heyst]

I don't want to spend much more time here talking about places other than Brazil, but I have to ask. How are the Indonesian girls when it comes to anal? Hehehe! I mean that's a legitimate inquiry if you're going to be holding them up to the Brazilian girls LOL! And I heard that traffic is worse than Manila's even.

It is a legitimate question, but I rarely do anal, so I can't say with any degree of accuracy. But I do know 1st hand (KKK) that bareback is readily available in Indonesia, Cambodia, Burma, and the PI. No need to ask. So my guess is anal is not a problem with most girls in these countries excluding Thailand. I assume you are speaking of covered anal, right? KKK. P.S. The best anal I ever had was in RJ with a Barra Vips girl. Go figure! Man, did she have a sweet back door. I loved anal with her.

1) I've never visited Jakarta as I've read quite a few posts on this forum from regular posters that the Classic and Travel hotel are Mafia run and the girls there are basically controlled by them. Not sure how true this is but personally I'm not going to knowingly go to somewhere like that.

2) Been going to Pattaya for years and its rubbish compared to what it used to be. Soi 6 is mainly a drinking street now and the town is just full of overpriced Go Go's. 99% of the women in the Gentleman clubs I wouldn't fuck for free. There is still good value online but online mongering bores the sh1 t out of me. Most Thai girls suck in bed too (no pun intended), especially compared to the Brazilian girls.

3) In terms of mongering, nowhere can compete with Brazil imo.

1) I have heard some similar stories about Classic girls and more or less girls in every port of call including Brazil. Every hooker has a tragic story to tell if you care to listen to it. My favorite BKK girl, who I saw for over 10 years, originally left her home in Udon and went to work in a Pattaya food stall preparing vegetables. Soon after she met a Thai boy who was a musician and an inveterate gambler. He ran up a huge debt with the local mobsters and when he could no longer pay the vig, he ran way, leaving poor Mini on the hook. She started working in Baccara Cowboy (where I met her in 2010) and eventually she paid off the debt & interest.

2) This is why in my previous post I advised guys who have never been there to go to Thailand now, the sooner the better. The trend over there is not good. I think I could still have a very good time in LOS if I went back, but for how long is the question. The trend in LOS is not our friend.

3) I agree with you with regards to sexual performance, attitude, and drive. Brazilian girls are amazing in bed and on average they outperform most Thai girls, but bareback is not the default here in Brazil. I have pals over in the Asian forums that were very interested in everything I had to say about Brazilian girls and Brazilian bordellos until the subject of condoms came up and after I told them the truth, they lost interest. KKK. BTW, Thailand is the most conservative SE Asian country in this regard, but Thai girls are not as conservative as their Brazilian sisters. It took me 7 sessions & 1. 5 trips before my favorite Scandallo girl dropped her condom requirement. But it was worth the wait. KKK.

I sometimes try to decide on the best mongering trip I've ever made and Jakarta comes out at the top. One month in 2015. Malio Club / Malioboro is the major reason why I rate it so highly. Also Classic with hundreds of hot Indo girls contributes. For me Indonesian women are the most beautiful in SEA.

Yeah, I agree. Indo girls are very hot & sexy! Best in SE Asia (maybe). KKK. I want to go back!

My first visit to Scandello was in Feb 2020 and I was blown away. I was going to Brazil before but never really explored SP. I was either in Rio for a few days and / or some other small town in other states. Now I make sure I stay in SP on every trip for a few days. Since then I have found this site to be very useful in finding other venues in other countries that I visit. I have traveled to a few countries since then and this is how I see them compared to Brazil.

Dubai highly overrated. Yes. There are hot Russians and Eastern Europeans but unless you are willing to drop some serious coin, you aren't getting those. Price and service wise. I was disappointed especially compared to Brazil. On my second trip, I just bought a flight ticket for my regular Scandello girl to meet me in Dubai and spend time with me instead of trying to find something.

Saigon One main place to find girls. Set up like a clinica. Lots of young skinny girls (which is my type) but nothing special. I like the talking and conversing so this wasn't my cup of tea. I visited it a few times while I was in town since that was pretty much the only sure thing in the area and it was clean and close to my hotel.

Bangkok hated it. I am not a fan of Asian girls. And the whole setup is just terrible. Yes they have lots of girls but majority are unfuckable. Never again.

Hong Kong pre Covid and pre Scandello I always enjoyed the Wan Chai bars and would always end up with a South American girl. Colombian or Venezuelan. Good service and I would enjoy it. Haven't been since Covid but going back this March. I have heard it has gone downhill so I am taking my regular Scandello girl and her friend who also works at Scandello on this trip which also includes Singapore. Asian persuasion doesn't work for me <snip> But other than that nothing really appeals to me after Brazil. Especially Scandello aka HEAVEN ON EARTH!

Scandallo blew me away the 1st time I went there too right after covid. Actually, while Omicron was still going strong in Oct / Nov 2021. Like I said it is the benchmark on which to compare all other places.

A well-travelled friend loves Saigon, but it all sounds too confusing to me. HKG was always on my SE Asian itinerary until the government limited the visa stay requirements for the girls making the city non profitable especially for Vietnamese girls. I loved the WanChai bars, but the prettiest girl I ever met in HKG was a Mongolian girl in Hari's Bar at the Holiday Inn on Nathan Rd. Hari's bar was a landmark! Macau was always on my itinerary too. What a selection of girls in the Saunas over there. And last, but far from least, Singapore. OMG. Who would have suspected that such a straight-laced city could have such a amazing mongering scene? Geylang casas (similar to Moema clinicas) in the day time, Geylang SW's at night. Imagine being surrounded by a couple of hundred girls on an otherwise quiet residential street. It was amazing. And lest I ever forget the Orchard road bar scene. I will never foreget Brix bar in the basement of the Hyatt and the world class Ipanema bar located on the 2nd floor in Orchard Towers. What a town!

Which reminds me how everything can and go to hell change overnight. I am glad we still have SP & RJ, Jakarta, Phnom. The trend is not our friend.

P.S. You flew your favorite Scandallo girl to Dubai. Wow! You are an ADDICT. My hat's off to you. I have fantasized little about taking my favorite Scandallo girl to BKK. A day or two on Sukhumvit and then fly down to the southern islands. So far, I have only taken her to a nearby beach. Last visit, she mentioned Monte Verde and she has a car, so that might be our next road trip, but I really want to go up north and check out the beaches in NE Brazil. It's all good. I am back barely 2 weeks and I am already planning out my next Brazil trip.

[DonMoscow]

Speaking of Tangará, has anyone tried Larissa? Her photos look hooooot! Can't see her face tho.

[Anaggie]

My first visit to Scandello was in Feb 2020 and I was blown away. I was going to Brazil before but never really explored SP. I was either in Rio for a few days and / or some other small town in other states. Now I make sure I stay in SP on every trip for a few days. Since then I have found this site to be very useful in finding other venues in other countries that I visit. I have traveled to a few countries since then and this is how I see them compared to Brazil.

Dubai highly overrated. Yes. There are hot Russians and Eastern Europeans but unless you are willing to drop some serious coin, you aren't getting those. Price and service wise. I was disappointed especially compared to Brazil. On my second trip, I just bought a flight ticket for my regular Scandello girl to meet me in Dubai and spend time with me instead of trying to find something.

Saigon One main place to find girls. Set up like a clinica. Lots of young skinny girls (which is my type) but nothing special. I like the talking and conversing so this wasn't my cup of tea. I visited it a few times while I was in town since that was pretty much the only sure thing in the area and it was clean and close to my hotel.

Bangkok hated it. I am not a fan of Asian girls. And the whole setup is just terrible. Yes they have lots of girls but majority are unfuckable. Never again.

Hong Kong pre Covid and pre Scandello I always enjoyed the Wan Chai bars and would always end up with a South American girl. Colombian or Venezuelan. Good service and I would enjoy it. Haven't been since Covid but going back this March. I have heard it has gone downhill so I am taking my regular Scandello girl and her friend who also works at Scandello on this trip which also includes Singapore. Asian persuasion doesn't work for me 🤣.

I would like to try to hit up the FKKs once and maybe hit some spots in Spain. But other than that nothing really appeals to me after Brazil. Especially Scandello aka HEAVEN ON EARTH!

[Krilimag]

Hello fellow mongers,

I will be in SP in about a month and would like to sample the local talents. Wanted to know if any have used splove https://splove.com.br/.

They have a great videos of the ladies. Wanted to know if these are clinicas or do they also do outcall to your hotels? Any reports is greatly appreciated.

TY.

[Turgid]

.....Jakarta of all the various destinations in SE Asia, perhaps most resembles Sao Paulo, but there are key differences to its venues. Malio Club / Malioboro, a longtime favorite high-end honky tonk of mine.......

I sometimes try to decide on the best mongering trip I've ever made and Jakarta comes out at the top. One month in 2015. Malio Club / Malioboro is the major reason why I rate it so highly. Also Classic with hundreds of hot Indo girls contributes. For me Indonesian women are the most beautiful in SEA.

[SoberHans69]

I've never visited Jakarta as I've read quite a few posts on this forum from regular posters that the Classic and Travel hotel are Mafia run and the girls there are basically controlled by them. Not sure how true this is but personally I'm not going to knowingly go to somewhere like that.

Been going to Pattaya for years and its rubbish compared to what it used to be. Soi 6 is mainly a drinking street now and the town is just full of overpriced Go Go's. 99% of the women in the Gentleman clubs I wouldn't fuck for free. There is still good value online but online mongering bores the sh1 t out of me. Most Thai girls suck in bed too (no pun intended), especially compared to the Brazilian girls.

In terms of mongering, nowhere can compete with Brazil imo.

[The Cane]

So, I dig Jakarta. I tend to think of Jakarta as the SP of SE Asia because it is set up in a similar fashion with everything kept low key behind closed doors as opposed to the out in the open circus circus atmosphere of BKK and Pattaya and everything in Jakarta is spread far apart. Combine Jakarta with a 3 week stay in LOS divided equally between BKK and Pat and maybe add on a week side trip to Phnom and you will have it made; a GREAT SE ASIAN TRIP! And afterwards decide for yourself the rankings of your favorite bordellos and how they compare to Scandallo and how Indonesian girls compare to Brazilian girls.

I don't want to spend much more time here talking about places other than Brazil, but I have to ask. How are the Indonesian girls when it comes to anal? Hehehe! I mean that's a legitimate inquiry if you're going to be holding them up to the Brazilian girls LOL! And I heard that traffic is worse than Manila's even. That's hard to imagine!

[Steve 9696]

Thanks Axel for the epic post. I admit I have not been to Jakarta and have no reason to go. But now I'm going to make one! Two clarifications / augmentations to Axels post.

For those not familiar his use of LOS means Land of Smiles aka Thailand.

And he is 100% spot on that the neon and zillion bar girls trying to drag you into their club and the nearly unlimited quantity of gogos and hot girls is epic in Thailand. If a man is to plan a complete life he must do Scandallo, FKK, and Thailand (I prefer Nana plaza to Cowboy these days). And apparently Jakarta as well. I will start planning! Thanks Axel.

[FlowState985]

What's the deal with Tangara?

They have so many women on shift but the hot ones are always taken. I sometime spot one and would be told someone has booked her. The available ones are 5's, I have yet to pop there. Would be wanting to try Lily there.

Prebook thru whatsapp like most of the local do.

[Axel Heyst]

Warning: I dig Asian girls! I also dig Brazilian girls! And I don't know a thing about European bordellos and do not care. 555.

I will break it down like this: currently I have 2 favorite mongering destinations where I enjoy spending a lot of time (more than a month in each place per visit): Brazil & LOS, more specifically I like SP, BKK, and Pattaya.

Note: if any of you South American aficionados have not been to Thailand, GO before it is too late! Sooner rather than later / take my word for it. Because no place on Earth has the volume and quantity of girls, bars, massage parlors, FL's, SWs, and you name it, they got it from 11 am to 5 am. And it is all out in the open. Just roll out of your hotel and you are in the thick of it. It is fucking amazing! It changed my life 30 years ago!

Girls:

There are a number of worthy SE Asian destinations that I like almost as much as Brazil & LOS, but I wouldn't want to spend more than 2 weeks in many of these cities on any one trip. Currently post covid, I am thinking mostly about going back to Jakarta & Phnom Penh, but if looks and performance count as it does in my book, I give the edge to Jakarta over Phnom narrowly.

Jakarta girls usually come with pretty SE Asian faces, well-endowed natural ta ta's and they usually have slender bodies with few tats or surgical work unlike Thai girls. They are also more active and less spoiled in bed than Thai girls although not as GFE inclined as Khmer or Filipina girls. Kind of like the Asian equivalent of Brazilian girls. Ha Ha. Kind of.

Jakarta Bars & Clubs:

It is hard to compare various venues because of the differences between them from destination to destination. I consider Scandallo to be the benchmark. It is one of the best bordellos in the world, but it is unique because as a Boate it is essentially a FL bordello nightclub, bar / restaurant with live entertainment, a hefty consumable entry fee, hotel rooms, and if you want a reasonable girly take away fee.

Jakarta of all the various destinations in SE Asia, perhaps most resembles Sao Paulo, but there are key differences to its venues. Malio Club / Malioboro, a longtime favorite high-end honky tonk of mine, is set up a little different than Scandallo or other SP Boates being that the girls either work for the club or work for a mamasan in the club and there is no girly take away fee except at prohibitory prices. Hotel Alexis, another great Jakarta bordello, which used to be my all-time favorite in terms of quality and quantity could easily rival Scandallo, but again it was not a takeout place and its girls worked for the house. I think of Hotel Alexis as an RJ Terma on steroids. Too bad it got busted and shut down in 2018 on account of having a few underage girls. Its replacement club, 1001 Pool, is just not as good IMHO, but they still have a large number (over 100) of girls on any given night.

But let's not forget Classic Hotel which resembles an inexpensive RJ Terma on super, super, super, steroids. Come to think of it, Classic is more like Casaro in this respect. But imagine 3 floors with hundreds and hundreds of young Indonesian girls on each floor and with the cost of a girl less than at Casaro. I mean seriously this is a must-see joint! You are either going to love it or hate it. It ain't like Scandallo, no way, but I will bet good money, you will love it.

Then there are the 5-star Jakarta Hotel FL pick up bars like CJ's and Bats. These bars resemble Scandallo too, but in a different way. A lot of FL girls show up at these bars every night. CJ's, the larger and better one, usually has at least a 100 girls most nights by 11 pm standing between the VIP section and the rest of the bar all dressed up really nice and sophisticated like waiting for Mr. Customer, but CJ's has no rooms unless you happen to be staying at the 5 star Mulia Senayan hotel (which houses CJ's on the 2nd floor) for a couple of hundred dollars / night. In any case, these high class FL pickup bars have a one drink minimum, but no barfine or girly exit fee. There are just high-class pick-up joints with "live" entertainment, drinks, and food. Find a girl you like and leave or stay, drink, party / fool around all night with your girl or girls and then leave.

So, I dig Jakarta. I tend to think of Jakarta as the SP of SE Asia because it is set up in a similar fashion with everything kept low key behind closed doors as opposed to the out in the open circus circus atmosphere of BKK and Pattaya and everything in Jakarta is spread far apart. The CGK bordellos are in the north, the 5-star hotel pick up bars are in the south and you will need Bluebird taxis to get around. I highly recommend this city for a 2-week visit.

Combine Jakarta with a 3 week stay in LOS divided equally between BKK and Pat and maybe add on a week side trip to Phnom and you will have it made; a GREAT SE ASIAN TRIP! And afterwards decide for yourself the rankings of your favorite bordellos and how they compare to Scandallo and how Indonesian girls compare to Brazilian girls.

[DonMoscow]

What's the deal with Tangara?

They have so many women on shift but the hot ones are always taken. I sometime spot one and would be told someone has booked her. The available ones are 5's, I have yet to pop there. Would be wanting to try Lily there.

[DonMoscow]

I think the majority of hobbyist would agree that the FKK / Romanian girls on average can't compete with Scandallo / Brazilian women in terms of service quality.

Out of all the Romanian women I've been with, only one is was true gem.

Out of all the Brazilian women I've been with, only one is was true suck.

[Balboa]

I also like Vive Madrid which is waaaaay smaller than Scandallo but same basic idea and all South American girls.

Great post!

Vive, however, does not have all South American girls.

Lots of them, true.

[The Cane]

Destinations (based totally on personal preference):

1. Brazil.

2. Germany.

3. Spain.

4. Costa Rica.

5. Thailand (number 1 if you're into Asian chicks).

Clubs (based on total years of experience going to each):

1. Scandallo (Sao Paulo).

2. Quatro por Quatro (Rio de Janeiro).

3. Oase (Frankfurt).

4. Artemis (Berlin).

5. Palace (Frankfurt).

You'll notice that I don't have popular FKK Sharks on my list. There's nothing particularly wrong with Sharks that I can point to. It's just not a club that has ever really worked for me. Can't put my finger on why. It just doesn't. Not for me. And these top 5 lists are only just scratching the surface. There are so many countries to visit and clubs to see where you can have a good time! My experience is light in Asia mainly because I'm really not attracted to most Asian women. ISO, I can't justify spending money going to Asia to monger a lot. But the Philippines is another must-do destination if you're a monger. Does not make my top 5 destination list, but if I liked Asian women more it would be number 2 right after Thailand. Yes sir it would! Dubai is another one. The place offers the best diversity in the world (last night I doggy fucked a Russian blonde, tonight I'm fucking some exotic Turkmen pussy, and tomorrow night going to Ratsky to get me a Filipina spinner. And York has Ethiopians, Chinese, and Turks)!

[The Cane]

So given the difficulties with China / Russia I'the prob say the top five after Scandallo for me are:

Globe FKK.

Sharks FKK.

Oase FKK.

Casarao (sure that will be debated but I like it).

Vive.

I can't rank order them. It's like rank ordering your children. 😜.

Ps I am sure some Rio enthusiasts will chime in but I was very underwhelmed by 4x4. I found Monte Carlo Terma great for pretty girls and great service. But we are talking 10 girls not 100 so not sure it counts.

Brazil and Germany are my two favorite countries for mongering (I like Spain a lot too but not as much these days due to decreased value delivery for the money). So, I don't have a real issue with your list except for Globe in Switzerland. The cost of mongering there (girls, transportation, lodging, food, etc.) is all way, way, way too high. Zurich is consistently ranked as one of the most expensive cities in the world. For anyone who is a "budget monger" (I'm not one) it's totally out of the question as an option. When it comes to pussy you can get the same girl optics and service level in Germany for half the price. That's been my experience. Now, should every man experience Globe at least once if he can? Yeah. But go there on any kind of regular basis? Naw! Not unless you just happen to live there and you really can't get away. As far as the Rio termas go they will always get a big thumbs up from me. But I can see why you were underwhelmed. My last experiences with them weren't nearly as good as when I first started going in the early 2000's, even at the world famous 4 x4. I found a girl there I liked and had a good session, but the place had really fallen off in terms of talent. It used to be loaded with hotties delivering PSE sex in the room. We all just need to remember that it all works in cycles. The place that was hot last time is not this time, and vice versa. But, there's always next time. So here's hoping for the future!