Sao Paulo Reports

[The Cane]

I agree, I spoke as a joke really, as I have many friends who for years have said they're going to learn spanish, or portugues, however, have never even started, LOL.

That's obviously not you and I spoke out of turn.

Apologies.

And I appreciate you being man enough to issue a public apology. And you're right about most people. Too much talk and no action. It's one of the things I don't like about people. I've tried very hard to lead my life not being one of those kind of people. I speak three languages. English (native), Spanish, and a third (I won't say which as I believe it would give away too much about me). Given that Brazil is my favored vacation destination in the Americas, I really wish that I had Portuguese rather than Spanish, but as I said, it's Spanish (and that other language) that I really needed more for professional reasons at this time. And enough years have passed that I know I'm not studying a third language at the moment. But, when I've got nothing but time on my hands, then there's a real possibility.

Now, there's no question that speaking the local language enhances the entire overall experience. I know that one reason why Spain, pound for pound and inch for inch, is my favorite country in Europe is because I can speak the language and interact with people there on a whole other level. I wish I could do the same in Brazil, but I can't. I get by with whatever English and Spanish they can understand, whatever Portuguese I can understand, and my smart phone translator. During my last trip to Brazil, I wondered how in the world I ever survived without Google Translate LOL! Anyway, as I think people can see from some of my posts, I still manage to have a rocking good time in Brazil every single time I go there! Monger on my friends!

[Balboa]

Please! I'm fluent in Spanish and I've never been able to make significant progress in Portugues. I think my Spanish helps me quite a bit for reading, but speaking and understanding conversation is beyond difficult.

Unless one is planning on visiting Brazil (or Portugal) at least once a year, I don't think investing time in an audio course is a good choice. I think a book like Portuguese in 10 minutes a day can give you just enough to get by or allow you to be somewhat able to make simple conversation and requests. The book is designed as a workbook and has some stickers and flash cards. It can be as interactive as you want. I have a friend who put the stickers around his condo for a few months so he knew how to say common household items. I only use an audio course designed for tourists in my car to sharpen my pronunciation. I myself am never going to learn enough to have extensive conversations in Portuguese unless I live in Brazil (or Portugal).

https://www.amazon.com/PORTUGUESE-mi...keywords=learn+portuguese+barrons&qid=1587399192&sr=8-02.

Like most Latin languages, the letters aren't always pronounced like English. The general rules are T and the are soft when generally followed by I or e. Os at the end are pronounced "oo". You can learn the rules for how to say the odd Rs and Ms, but not absolutely necessary for tourists. There are a few other sounds like o and es. Hopefully if one is here, you know already know how to say So Paulo.

As a former fluent spanish speaker only (and english of course), I began spending a lot of time in Brazil about 15 years ago and spanish speaking just wasn't going to cut it for me.

I really wanted to learn to speak portuguese, but not make it over complicated.

I of course knew it was another Romance language and that a lot of the mechanics would be the same.

Thank goodness!

Anyway, I bought this book, along with a dictionary and verb book of course:

https://www.amazon.com/Everything-Le...rds=everything+learning+brazilian+portuguese&qid=1587402017&sr=8-1.

Did wonders for me!

Studying and listening to the enclosed CD, as well as practice got me up to speed and more so.

Boa sorte!

[Balboa]

It's also what you call, probably never going to happen, haha.

Always excuses to put things off, but hey, that's your business, not mine.

Whatever floats anyone's boat is cool with me.

I already speak two other languages (including Spanish which helps me to communicate in Brazil). Spending time on two other languages is a major part of what kept me busy from studying a third one, namely Portuguese. I needed the other two much more at this time.

Agree we're all better off minding our own business rather than passing judgments about people we don't know. The world would be a better place. I don't let other people tell me what I will and will not accomplish in life, or what I can afford. And nor do I spend time telling other people that. Listen to most other people, and one is likely to accomplish much of nothing.

I agree, I spoke as a joke really, as I have many friends who for years have said they're going to learn spanish, or portugués, however, have never even started, LOL.

That's obviously not you and I spoke out of turn.

Apologies.

[WyattEarp]

Unless one is planning on visiting Brazil (or Portugal) at least once a year, I don't think investing time in an audio course is a good choice. I think a book like Portuguese in 10 minutes a day can give you just enough to get by or allow you to be somewhat able to make simple conversation and requests. The book is designed as a workbook and has some stickers and flash cards. It can be as interactive as you want. I have a friend who put the stickers around his condo for a few months so he knew how to say common household items. I only use an audio course designed for tourists in my car to sharpen my pronunciation. I myself am never going to learn enough to have extensive conversations in Portuguese unless I live in Brazil (or Portugal).

https://www.amazon.com/PORTUGUESE-mi...keywords=learn+portuguese+barrons&qid=1587399192&sr=8-02.

Like most Latin languages, the letters aren't always pronounced like English. The general rules are T and the are soft when generally followed by I or e. Os at the end are pronounced "oo". You can learn the rules for how to say the odd Rs and Ms, but not absolutely necessary for tourists. There are a few other sounds like ão and ões. Hopefully if one is here, you know already know how to say São Paulo.

[Member #4732]

The key is to learn by ear not the written stuff because it looks nothing like it's written. Like:

Bom Dia = Bone Gia = greeting in morning or early Afternoon.

Boa Noite = Boa No Chay = Greeting or goodbye at night.

Tudo Bem? = Too Doo Bane = All good? (How u doin)

Rio de Janeiro = Hee O Gee Jan Yare O = Yeah that place.

If you take an audio course you are way better off IMO.

Haha, Steve, your advice is good but your premise is a bit falacious. Portuguese actually does sound like it is written. It is a highly phonetic language, much much more phonetic than English. It only appears to "not sound like it is written" if one applies English phonetics to the written porto. If one learns the Portuguese alphabet phonetically, one can anticipate how to pronounce all the written words. Pronouncing them correctly is a greater challenge but that is due to some porto phonemes being outside the sound space we are accustomed to. The good news is that like Spanish the Porto phonemes are quite limited aside from all the nasal variants. That said, you are totally correct. A visitor is better off using an audio training program. I highly recommend Pimsleur.

Cheers.

[Steve 9696]

A better analogy is Italian and French. I've heard scores of monolingual Brits &Americans make that comparison. I also found Porto orthography (way word is written vs pronounced) difficult. But Steve's advice that even 5-10 hours of study to learn how to say Hello, how are you, where is and most importantly how much. That always pays off.

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The key is to learn by ear not the written stuff because it looks nothing like it's written. Like:

Bom Dia = Bone Gia = greeting in morning or early Afternoon.

Boa Noite = Boa No Chay = Greeting or goodbye at night.

Tudo Bem? = Too Doo Bane = All good? (How u doin)

Rio de Janeiro = Hee O Gee Jan Yare O = Yeah that place.

If you take an audio course you are way better off IMO.

[Nordico]

If you don't have time to study Portuguese language, here is a very good and easy reading book of Brazilian history to read on the plane; https://www.amazon.com/Concise-Histo...dp_ob_title_bk.

Sorry guys, no special chapter or mention of Help disco.

[HarvestBoi]

A better analogy is Italian and French. I've heard scores of monolingual Brits &Americans make that comparison. I also found Porto orthography (way word is written vs pronounced) difficult. But Steve's advice that even 5-10 hours of study to learn how to say Hello, how are you, where is and most importantly how much. That always pays off.

Please! I'm fluent in Spanish and I've never been able to make significant progress in Portugues. I think my Spanish helps me quite a bit for reading, but speaking and understanding conversation is beyond difficult.

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[Combo]

Please! I'm fluent in Spanish and I've never been able to make significant progress in Portugues. I think my Spanish helps me quite a bit for reading, but speaking and understanding conversation is beyond difficult.

Clearly there is no need particularly if you stay on the beaten path. The "conversation mode" of Google translate is truly amazing. And although there is no need it can enhance your experience significantly:

1. The girls like it and are impressed. You get points straight off for trying.

2. The in room experience flows better without the phone as a middleman.

3. It's FUN and satisfying to be able to pick up a girl and talk only in Portugus (I was able to do this by the end of my second visit).

4. You can go off the beaten path. I was able to go to a Boate in the country Cuna de Flores where no one spoke any English. It was an adventure I would not have undertaken otherwise.

It is really not very hard, especially if you know any spanish or French. Plus a lot of the Latin based English words help you remember. No you don't have to. But if you are dedicated to the best experience possible, then dive in. The water is fine!

Ps Chatting with 6 SP hotties nightly on Seeking Arrangement. Only one speaks any English at all. My Portugus is getting better every day as a result and its fun to just engage with the girls. They vary from monosyllabic to nearly my girlfriend with all sorts of lovey dovey adoration. Its really great fun.

[Steve 9696]

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I am glad u enjoyed and hope others did as well.

To take us slightly off the well trodden Scandallo and Bomboa paths, here's an adventure in nearby Campinas. This bar is nothing like Scandallo about the size of the small bar area in Scandallo only, no more. But I am a connoisseur of experiences of all types and this was fun in it's own way.

Campinas is an unlikely place to visit but I was going on business so I researched it. I had found Fazendinha which is out in the country, where I scored Thifany the following night. But as it was my first night in town, I didn't want to drive all the way to Fazendinha and was trying to keep it an early night.

I took to the web last minute and found a place called Luxe a short walk from my hotel. Unfortunately after walking there, it turned out to be closed. I went to the bar across the street disappointed and decided to kill a few drinks.

Since I was a drink or two in, I was more comfortable trotting out my Portuguese with the waiter, as he spoke not a word of English. Even though my Portugus was quite limited at the time (my first visit) I was able to explain I was looking for a club to meet girls. He recommended Moustache. I had seen this on the web earlier and thought it was a gay club! Somehow we managed enough communication for him to laugh and say no - "Muito garotas linda" (many beautiful girls).

Moustache is about a 20 minute walk. It was still way too early, it just having opened at 10 PM, but I wanted to have an early night and in Brazil the party doesn't start till at least midnight. So I had low expectations. Indeed it was dead, but served the purpose and turned out quite well.

R120 ($30) entry all consumable. There were only 9 girls there at 10 PM but all solid 7+, including some 8's and 9's. Not a single girl I wouldn't have taken after a beer or two. And here is the kicker -- I am the only guy in the place! All eyes on Steve! <insert evil laugh .

One of the bartenders, Douglas, speaks great English and gave me the lay of the land. The girls don't approach. You pick a girl and wave her over to chat. I saw a couple I liked but this one kept making strong eye contact. It was really dark so I wasn't sure, but usually when you pick the one that likes you it's a good bet.

I waved her over and OMG -- close up she has the face of a goddess. Another 9. 5 and I am not lying! Nice Brasileira bunda and hard nipples showing through her skin tight white dress. Very friendly and handsy also. My Portugus Was better than her English. LOL. We agreed 400 + 80 to the house.

There are no love motels downtown and I could not take her to the hotel for various reasons so we took a R30 cab to the love motels outside of town. Glad we did. Even the cab ride was plenty of fun. Lots of hands all over and she taught me the words for tits, pussy and dick. Beware the word for bread and dick sound super similar to me, so if you order some po o queso (cheesy bread) make sure you don't accidentally order cheese dick. Kkkkkk.

The love hotel was great for the purpose, with mirrors literally everywhere, including directly over the bed. This girl is super passionate. Probably the most raucous of the trip. I call her my Brazilian wildcat! She had quite a lot of colorful tattoos and loves to kiss and fuck with a passion.

Great performance all around with the highlight being climaxing in cowgirl watching in the overhhead mirror as that Brasileira bunda bucked up and down till I was spent. I don't usually cum in cowgirl and this was my sixth girl in two days but she has that Brasileira ass that I came to love and she could ride like no ones business. What a wildcat!

To me this visit shows there are gems everywhere in Brazil. I mean what is this gorgeous girl doing in Campinas at Moustache? But hey this is what we love Brasil.

Like Karina I ended up with her instagram via her phone number. I sent her a nice message warning her about this and she said it's no problem and feel free to follow her. It turns out she travels all over Europe and north Africa with her two kids and husband. So I guess this is just a sideline for her from time to time. I enjoy catching up on her adventures and thinking about our time together in the most unexpected of ways.

[DanSea3782]

Steve9696, what amazing reports, thank you for these, Scandallos sounds like my kind of place, I have been in touch with some of Brazilian escort girls through onlyfans. I have really enjoyed your reports, they've been very insightful. I just can't wait for this to be through!

[The Cane]

It's also what you call, probably never going to happen, haha.

Always excuses to put things off, but hey, that's your business, not mine.

Whatever floats anyone's boat is cool with me.

I already speak two other languages (including Spanish which helps me to communicate in Brazil). Spending time on two other languages is a major part of what kept me busy from studying a third one, namely Portuguese. I needed the other two much more at this time.

Agree we're all better off minding our own business rather than passing judgments about people we don't know. The world would be a better place. I don't let other people tell me what I will and will not accomplish in life, or what I can afford. And nor do I spend time telling other people that. Listen to most other people, and one is likely to accomplish much of nothing.

[Balboa]

For me, it's not that it's hard. It's simply a matter of not having the time. I have a busy career that doesn't leave me with the time to study a language. Any free time I have, I'm not going to spend it conjugating verbs! I'm beat and want to have some fun, and that isn't my way of doing that at this point in my life. I often think that when I retire, I would like to spend several months in Brazil, studying Portuguese by day at my own pace and fucking Brazilian girls by night, also at my on pace haha! What you call just enjoying life!

It's also what you call, probably never going to happen, haha.

Always excuses to put things off, but hey, that's your business, not mine.

Whatever floats anyone's boat is cool with me.

[Balboa]

Clearly there is no need particularly if you stay on the beaten path. The "conversation mode" of Google translate is truly amazing. And although there is no need it can enhance your experience significantly:

1. The girls like it and are impressed. You get points straight off for trying.

2. The in room experience flows better without the phone as a middleman.

3. It's FUN and satisfying to be able to pick up a girl and talk only in Portugus (I was able to do this by the end of my second visit).

4. You can go off the beaten path. I was able to go to a Boate in the country Cuna de Flores where no one spoke any English. It was an adventure I would not have undertaken otherwise.

It is really not very hard, especially if you know any spanish or French. Plus a lot of the Latin based English words help you remember. No you don't have to. But if you are dedicated to the best experience possible, then dive in. The water is fine!

Ps Chatting with 6 SP hotties nightly on Seeking Arrangement. Only one speaks any English at all. My Portugus is getting better every day as a result and its fun to just engage with the girls. They vary from monosyllabic to nearly my girlfriend with all sorts of lovey dovey adoration. Its really great fun.

Thanks brotha!

I was being sarcastic in my post.

Of course it pays to learn the language, LOL.

No brainer.

I speak both spanish and portugus very well.

I easily jump from a 7 to an 8 or 9 on the scale, and with money in the pocket, about a 9. 5, LOL.

[The Cane]

It is really not very hard, especially if you know any spanish or French. Plus a lot of the Latin based English words help you remember. No you don't have to. But if you are dedicated to the best experience possible, then dive in. The water is fine!

For me, it's not that it's hard. It's simply a matter of not having the time. I have a busy career that doesn't leave me with the time to study a language. Any free time I have, I'm not going to spend it conjugating verbs! I'm beat and want to have some fun, and that isn't my way of doing that at this point in my life. I often think that when I retire, I would like to spend several months in Brazil, studying Portuguese by day at my own pace and fucking Brazilian girls by night, also at my on pace haha! What you call just enjoying life!