Sao Paulo Reports

[Exec Talent]

How many guys here have written "I'm fluent in Spanish but damn I can't understand anything in Brazil without Google tradutor" in the last year? I got news for you guys. You ain't "fluent" in Spanish if you can't understand a bit of Portuguese. It's hardly even qualifies as a separate language, and many consider the distinction to be at he level of dialect rather than language. I'm not saying Portuguese is not difficult, it can be. But it challenges my credulity to believe someone "truly" fluent in Spanish would be completely lost with Brazilian Portuguese which is easier than Portugal. I mean I never ever considered myself fluent in Spanish but just studying pimsleur Portuguese for a few weeks prior to visiting Brazil for first time in 2005, way before smart phone tradutor and I was immediately "conversational" and I am not even good with languages. So any self proclaimed "fluent" Spanish speaker should blow away my experience. Just saying.

I am fluent in Spanish and Portuguese and you are wrong. I have attended professional conferences in Latin America and the conference language was English because those speaking Spanish could not understand Brazilians and vice versa. When I am holding business meetings in a Spanish speaking country, I take a moment and compose myself before entering a room to get into a Spanish speaking frame of mind. Written, Spanish and Portuguese are very similar, it is the spoken words that are the issue particularly the endings and when spoken quickly. So, as a polyglot, you are quite simply full of it (spelled differently in Spanish and Portuguese, but sounds similar). Just saying.

[Lalabo]

When Lalabo was sitting next to me, he was approached by 2 girls and I got none. Lesson learned, don't sit next to Lalabo when you want girl to approach you.

Yup! That is true. Girls come and talk to me a lot but in the room they screw me over where as you screw them. LOL.

Nounce seems have found a way to maximize value at Scandallo. He has unlimited patient and can hang around for a longtime in the club (which I can't do) and lets the action find him rather than the other way around.

Girls seem to start with 1000 or 1500 but they can quickly be negotiated down to 500-800 as Nounce has demonstrated when I was there. How low girl can go depends on how pretty and popular she is.

[Lalabo]

Based on our earlier conversation, I thought you were going to ask her to visit you in hotel, and not right away. That is why I did not tell you the detail in front of her when we met at the register area. I was going to text you telling you detail about her surgery.

As fate would have it, I change my mind.

[Member #4732]

Every night except Sunday. I don't know when they close but I would assume it is well after midnight. Before 8:55 PM it is 250 real for an hour. After that it is 100 real for the house for an hour and whatever fee you negotiate with the girl. Have to note that it was dead last Saturday night so may be better during weekdays.

These places are all hit or miss depending on day, hour, proximity to feriado, weather. It's Brazil. It's unpredictable and that is "the game" one either embraces fully or one misses out because one wants it easy.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Is this every night? And what time does the boate close? Do you know the average session fees? 57 is definitely set up for this. I had wondered why there wasn't more interactions with the girls. I have done a few daytime sessions myself and a few of the girls have been great. I would check this out next time. Thanks for the info!

Every night except Sunday. I don't know when they close but I would assume it is well after midnight. Before 8:55 PM it is 250 real for an hour. After that it is 100 real for the house for an hour and whatever fee you negotiate with the girl. Have to note that it was dead last Saturday night so may be better during weekdays.

[Member #4732]

How many guys here have written "I'm fluent in Spanish but damn I can't understand anything in Brazil without Google tradutor" in the last year? I got news for you guys. You ain't "fluent" in Spanish if you can't understand a bit of Portuguese. It's hardly even qualifies as a separate language, and many consider the distinction to be at he level of dialect rather than language. I'm not saying Portuguese is not difficult, it can be. But it challenges my credulity to believe someone "truly" fluent in Spanish would be completely lost with Brazilian Portuguese which is easier than Portugal. I mean I never ever considered myself fluent in Spanish but just studying pimsleur Portuguese for a few weeks prior to visiting Brazil for first time in 2005, way before smart phone tradutor and I was immediately "conversational" and I am not even good with languages. So any self proclaimed "fluent" Spanish speaker should blow away my experience. Just saying.

[Nounce]

I saw a red head Friday night at Scandallo but I never saw her up close. I saw her again Saturday. She came to talk to Lalabo first, and he introduced her to me. She is very cute with a doll face and speaks very good English because she has worked overseas. Her price is 800. I asked if that is her final price, she started to explain to me what inflation is and why her service quality is worth 800. I asked what is included. She said no anal. I asked BBBJ, she said no because there are a lot of diseases. I told her I don't feel anything with condom. She said you know where to find me and left. I think this girl will get a client every day but I don't know why locals put up with that. She is pretty and very innocent looking that can disarm you with her look but she gave out too much info about her job that removed the illusion I had toward her similar to Rovnak wrote about.

In this context I think it's an illusion that low mileage is better.

I was in the restaurant ordering drink, a short blonde hair spinner standing next to me greeted me and I replied with Portuguese that sort of break the ice. I have been learning Portuguese so I know basic and that helps here. She was all smiling and seemed like very easy going so I continue to talk to her. She asked for 800. I said was her price the same for everyone. She said do you want to negotiate? And asked how much I want to pay. I said 500 and she said yes without hesitation. I said let's find a place to sit and talk.

I took her to the sofa on the way to the outdoor club area as it was just opened. I continued the screening process and did a lot of kissing. She said she likes to suck and that works for me. I also asked about DATY, she said something about doctors and surgery. I think penetration is OK but clitoris is off limit. I know this is a big deal for some but it is not for me. She also said rich locals will pay 2000, and she even mention tres mil but I could not quite catch the context on that arrangement. Most customers don't have problem paying her 800. Just to be sure, I confirmed the price with her again and wrote down our price agreement for 500 on the phone as a record in case there is a misunderstanding.

Once in a room, she went in the shower first to adjust it so it's the right temperature for me. Scandallo room has dual shower heads in case you haven't been there. The motel I went to the day before also has dual showers. She pointed to one of the handles telling me "quente" in Portuguese which means hot. I followed up with a frio / cold pointing to the other handle to let her know I understand. After shower, she sucked me pretty well and through for a long time, rimming included. I was surprised by the rimming, and now I understand what she meant when she said she likes to suck. This is the first rimming I have had in Latin America too. I am completely satisfied with the session.

I have met other mongers who are very skillful with girls and I have watched them in action but I am not one of them. Frequently I need to build up courage to approach girls. I think I develop patience to compensate the lack of skill. I think I am lucky that girls always quoted me the 800 price and are willing to go lower.

What Steve said here is a great advice. This will improve your chance of a good session. I must admit I did not quite get it just reading it. But after observing locals for a while then I see it. I think some locals don't even take the girls to the rooms after the make out session.

Don't just grab and go. Go Thurs or Fri and spend 4-5 hours. Find a girl you dig and spend an hour or more before going to the room.

[Nounce]

If you want a clinica where you can chat with the girls before choosing, in addition to getting a presentation, you can go to 57 House Friends Club

Thanks for the suggestion, I plan to try it.

For Bradesco it limit me at $1250 per transaction, but I exited and enter my card again and was able to pull another $1250 right away. I think the bigger issue is some ATM machines don't give you an option to select how you want the note denominations, and you end up with a big stack of 50's, this prompt was hit & miss for me, I even saw an option for a 200 Real note one time, but not the other.

That was my experience as well until the day you left. I went to an ATM and was able to pull 2000 in one transaction and it gave me 100 BRL bills with two choices of combination.

[SamaRiding]

If you want a clinica where you can chat with the girls before choosing, in addition to getting a presentation, you can go to 57 House Friends Club at Alameda dos Aicas, 1293 in Moema. In the daytime it is a clinica, with clinica pricing, but the girls are mostly in the lounges, not hidden away in a back room, so you can check them out at your leisure and go talk to them like you would in a boate. At 8:55 PM it becomes a boate, with the house getting a room fee and you negotiate the session fee with the girl directly. I think the maximum number of girls is about 20 (maybe a few more), some quite good looking (had three sessions there myself). The daytime receptionist, Julia, is very friendly and speaks some English. Very nice vibe and the girls are quite friendly.

Is this every night? And what time does the boate close? Do you know the average session fees? 57 is definitely set up for this. I had wondered why there wasn't more interactions with the girls. I have done a few daytime sessions myself and a few of the girls have been great. I would check this out next time. Thanks for the info!

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Snip. In clinicas, you go in, pick a girl, fuck for an hour for a fixed rate but you don't socialize with the girls or get GFE outside of that. Boates work differently so you need to adjust your method. You can occupy a girl the whole night and have a no intercourse GFE experience for 1200 or less in the club but it is true that you can only have sex for one hour unless you negotiate. It is expensive but you don't get waiters badgering you to order drink and that provides a more comfortable environment. So it depends how you want to spend your time and money.

If you want a clinica where you can chat with the girls before choosing, in addition to getting a presentation, you can go to 57 House Friends Club at Alameda dos Aicas, 1293 in Moema. In the daytime it is a clinica, with clinica pricing, but the girls are mostly in the lounges, not hidden away in a back room, so you can check them out at your leisure and go talk to them like you would in a boate. At 8:55 PM it becomes a boate, with the house getting a room fee and you negotiate the session fee with the girl directly. I think the maximum number of girls is about 20 (maybe a few more), some quite good looking (had three sessions there myself). The daytime receptionist, Julia, is very friendly and speaks some English. Very nice vibe and the girls are quite friendly.

[Member #4732]

I did more online girls than Scandallo girls, and yes it was cheaper. The difference is with online girls you can't see and sample the goodies prior, but with due diligence from GP Gua and by their messages on WhatsApp you can tell if she'll be a good or bad fuck, or at least increase your chances.

But at Scandallo you have the chance to score a girl with less mileage on her, possible new comer and get her on your rotation for possibly less than online girls, which tend to be more business oriented, although in my experience I can think about 2 that want me as a regular and could possibly work some arrangement too.

Plenty of options, just not enough time and bullets in the chamber.

This may be a controversial statement to some but based on many years in this hobby I think the "less mileage" thing is the most overrated factor in putaria. If one is talking about "less mileage that day" as in a clinica chick First session of the day vs last session. Then ok, I avoid CLnicas end of day because a human body can only take so much per day, and girls get tired.

But most people here use low mileage to refer to "lifetime mileage" or time in business. In this context I think it's an illusion that low mileage is better. I think it's basically irrelevant in terms of the sexual appetite of the woman. There are low mileage dead fish and there are high mileage nymphos. The key is finding the "naturally sexual" women regardless of age and mileage. Many women actually get sexually better with age as in less inhibited and better technique but their basic sexual appetite is probably pretty well established by nature. Even more controversial, you will probably find more sexually gifted women in the Clinicas than at Scandalo minutes for reasons of self selection. A woman needs a pretty high libido to do well in SO Clinicas, whereas the women in Scandalo just need to look hot in an evening, dress. Many of them tell me the guys in Scandalo are drunk and last less then 15 minutes in the room and that is the way they like it. Not to say there are not exceptions to every rule, but I am sure there are guys every night at Scandalo paying 5 x for 1/5th the pleasure in spite of "low mileage".

[Anaggie]

Another benefit of showing up early is daylight, I could really distinguish the pretty ones from the make up queens. I would've done another girl if time wasn't an issue, I finally got the hint how to work things out, in my case lay out what you want sometime during the early part of the conversation to set expectations, check for chemistry and requirements, make an offer, negotiate and score or move on to the next one. It took me 4 tries but I left pleased I finally got it.

Overall I'm happy with Scandallo, I appreciate all the members that have chimed in with advice, and I will definitely be back to Scandallo in the near future. The hotel room was fine BTW, clean and nice IMO. 230.00 for 1 hour. I realize I paid north of 1000.00 for the fuck, but I don't mind paying for what I like and want. I had a great time in the end!

Great report. I can't wait to go back now that everything is pretty much re-open. Maybe again January.

[Lalabo]

Just keep in perspective and move on. For most of us, it's a non event. And you better believe if she does this a few times she will be out. That is the sad part, most mangers don't even do what you did, they just pay and move on.

The problem with staying quiet and moving on is that you are encouraging girls to continue their ways.

How can management get rid of bad apples if customers don't inform them of bad service?

I have no illusions that management would side with customers in these situations unless you are someone who frequents the place quite regularly and spends obscene amount of money. If the management has standards and care about reputation then they will get rid of girls after 2 or 3 strikes.

I post reports about shitty service because I think they are as valuable if not more valuable than positive reports. I also hope these sort of reports encourage others to share such experiences.

[EverythingBlue]

I omitted some details that I thought might be valuable to others visiting on their first time. Another member messaged me about these, so I thought I'd post it.

Cash / Credit Card.

I don't see the need to pull cash at the airport. I pulled several times from Bradesco (no fee) and Santander (20 Reals fee) ATMs around the Moema and Jardin Paulista area without issue. For Bradesco it limit me at $1250 per transaction, but I exited and enter my card again and was able to pull another $1250 right away. I think the bigger issue is some ATM machines don't give you an option to select how you want the note denominations, and you end up with a big stack of 50's, this prompt was hit & miss for me, I even saw an option for a 200 Real note one time, but not the other.

As far as Credit card usage, SP accepts credit card everywhere, and I had zero issues. In fact, they are accepted at Clinicas for a small fee, and at Scandallo. However, at Scandallo you can pay your final bill, and the room for the session without a fee, but if you want to pay the fee for the girl with credit you can do this once you finish the session at the hotel and you'll pay a 10% fee. The lady will ask the working girl what the fee she's charging is, and then they will confirm with you if you are ok paying that plus the 10% fee. I did this because I had no more cash at the end and was heading to the airport right after. Just FYI you can use credit.

ID / Passport.

I carried with me a copy of both in my back pocket. At Scandallo the copy of my ID was sufficient, even if it was an expired ID (I noticed I took the wrong copy after LOL). At some apartments when checking in to see an online girl for incall, they asked me for my passport to let me in. I had no problems with either one.

Condoms.

I got no BBFS, but I was able to use the Sagami's I took with me with every girl I remembered to bring some with and during my pernoites too. Funny thing, during one of the sessions I was really trying to get BBFS, got only half way there then got rejected, so out comes the Sagami. After some hard action while doing K9 I finally decide to switch positions and what do you know, the condom had broke for awhile so I had been barebacking her anyways LOL. She had no issue and she just pulled out one of hers and continued by impaling herself next LOL. On the second round I had got all the way in while bareback but the damn room service knocked at the door with some wine and food ordered, talk about cock blocking LOL. Anyways, bring your condoms if you care about this, some girls carry some heavy duty shit that kills the feeling.

[EverythingBlue]

I understand that. But for the fucking itself, the girl is more in a hurry to come down from the from and pick another guy. I was not comparing boates but to web escort, not photo acomoanhantes off course, but something more high end. Seems 500 are per hour for high end web escort.

But I got you, Regarding the whole GFE thing in Scandallo. And you can't beat a Brazilian girl on that. Sometimes it's more pleasant the pre situation Itself, than the sex itself.

I did more online girls than Scandallo girls, and yes it was cheaper. The difference is with online girls you can't see and sample the goodies prior, but with due diligence from GP Guía and by their messages on WhatsApp you can tell if she'll be a good or bad fuck, or at least increase your chances.

But at Scandallo you have the chance to score a girl with less mileage on her, possible new comer and get her on your rotation for possibly less than online girls, which tend to be more business oriented, although in my experience I can think about 2 that want me as a regular and could possibly work some arrangement too.

Plenty of options, just not enough time and bullets in the chamber.