Sao Paulo Reports

[Rextor]

It looks like my 1-10 rating has confused some folks, so let me put it this way- in most other clubs like HK or La Isla, I am looking past the girls that I don't want anything to do with to find the handful of girls I would be happy with (these would be the 8's). Of course I am always also shooting for the girls I really want (9+) but it always feels like a long-shot. There's so much competition and the stars need to align for it to happen.

In Scandallo, landing a 9+ doesn't feel like a long shot at all. Yeah I haven't landed a 9+ yet in my two nights there, so there's definitely some luck / skill involved, but I will stick by my earlier assessment that I think there is no better venue to find really hot women (by my taste). And the best part is that there is no shortage of 8's, so even if things don't pan out perfectly with the 9's, the floor is so high. In fact, this is exactly what ended up happening yesterday!

Wednesday was even more impressive than Tuesday. There were more clients, girls, and energy, and it's said that Thursday should be even wilder. That's saying something. I started at 10 pm with a drink in the restaurant, and then moved to the club. As I talked about earlier, my style of mongering is relatively solitary and somewhat passive, so I don't end up talking to a whole bunch of people, and I rely on luck. The right girl passing by at the right time. Fortunately, a girl exactly my type came by. Very pretty, bubbly, all-natural, girl-next-door college babe. A branca from Minas Gerais, an easy 9 by my standards. The chemistry was great and we were chatting for quite a while.

I ended up not going up with her. She was ok with my price point of 700, but she didn't make out with me in the club, more just kisses on the cheek. I know that this is a bad omen for things in the bedroom, but looking back at it, I actually regret not taking her. There's a possibility that she may have opened up in private away from prying eyes. She claimed to be a bit shy and of course she could just be upselling the innocent girl-next-door persona, but I always regret not doing something more than doing something and having it go poorly. People might disagree with this, but I should've taken the shot even if it was a bit of a risk. Worst case scenario, it's just a "optifuck" but hey I've had worse.

But this story does have a happy ending. I put in quite a bit of time into the other girl, so at this point I was ready to find someone quickly and do the deed before leaving. At around 2 am I met another girl that was my type (natural, thin, college-girl, chill, not quite as pretty as the first one but very nice nevertheless, overall an 8). Despite only talking for 10 minutes or so, the vibes felt pretty good and I was starting to get weary. So we settled on 700 to go back to the room.

And you know what? The sex was really great. Who knows for sure, but she seemed into it, and was very sweet. Considering that I was really just looking to get my rocks off quickly, this full GFE was an awesome consolation prize after striking out earlier.

This just illustrates what's so unique about Scandallo. It inverts the scarcity vs abundance mindset. Real life is mostly lived in scarcity, where we're biting and scratching and competing for everything, including women. All P4 P establishments claim to offer an alternative. You have easy access to women (as long as you have the money) but the reality doesn't always match the claim. There are still often too few hot women and too many guys competing for their time. But Scandallo comes as close as I've seen to achieving that goal, of creating a place where fate is in your hands, and you can go home with a girl you're really excited about. I don't mean to be hyperbolic, because it could always be better of course (more hot girls at lower prices, duh). No place will ever be perfect, but for regular folks like us, at this moment in time, this is probably as close as it gets.

[The Cane]

I remember my first time I had this girl that was turning me on and grabbing my cock, she was getting me close to agreeing to session when I realized a lot of girls have different tricks to hide their flaws there, so I asked her to get up and turn around for me, I told her plainly that I wanted to see her ass first because I like girls with big ass, we were in the outside patio and I was able to see a small gut, which obviously turned me off. Needless to say I sent her away, and funny thing is she asked me to buy her a salad LOL. I declined, she wasn't going to start her diet on me.

LOL this is too funny! Got a literal LOL out of me hahaha!

[Rextor]

I am puzzled by your girl selection at Scandalo. You estimated there were 80-100 girls, of which by your standards 24-30 were 8's and 8-10 were 9+. Yet you only spoke to 3 girls; a 6-7, an 8, and a 10, and went with the 8 who was hiding her body (a 6-7 rating as you found out in the room) with a coat. Why would you go with a girl whose body you couldn't even see instead of finding another 8 whose body you could evaluate? Also, since money did not seem to be an issue with you, and they all charge more or less about 700-800 real, why would you even talk to an 8 instead of seeking out the 9+s to talk to first? I would think that would be the order in which to start the girl selection. Were all the 9+s more ghetto than you like with too much makeup so you didn't bother after the first one? Were they not your type for some other reason? Or were they all occupied with other clients or were not interested in talking to you?

P.S. If you like some alcohol before making a selection, most clinicas provide beer for free or at most 10 real, and some provide liquor at 1/3 or less of the cost in Scandalo.

Yeah this is a good, thought-provoking question. Why don't I just start with the hottest girl in the club and work downwards until I find someone I like?

1) A lot of this comes down to my modus operandi at these clubs which is generally to pick a spot and sit down for a drink. It's great for viewing and relaxing and not having to be on your feet all night. The downside is that it's quite passive, as I rely on girls coming past me in close proximity to make eye contact and rope in. Going in a group might help, so I can go around and chat with other girls without fear of losing my table. I'm open to hear about how other people approach this. Do you walk around until you find someone, and then go grab a nook to settle down? That didn't appear to be what most others were doing either but I could be wrong.

2) Obviously the hottest girls are more likely to be occupied. Just because there are hot women in the club doesn't mean they're always free all the time.

3) I personally have a bad habit of trying to "over-optimize" - just because there's a hot girl here doesn't mean an even hotter girl won't show up, so better wait for that one right?. I will admit this is not helping me out, and I've probably lost good connections because of it. In other clubs I know that there's pretty much only 3 or 4 available 8+s and I need to pounce, but in Scandallo it's easy to just wait around and before you know it it's 2 am and everyone's paired up already.

4) As mentioned, I thought I was talking to someone hot, but maybe my small head took over and I didn't think to look under her coat. The "10" wasn't really a 10 under closer inspection.

5) Sometimes, despite how someone looks, you just get a not great vibe from them. There's no real explanation on this one.

All this means that I end up not talking to a whole lot of girls in a given night. Maybe it's worth changing it the approach a bit to see if I get better results.

[WyattEarp]

Few recent reports are pretty much the same. Guys are all impressed with the quality and selection, but for some reason don't pick the hottest women in house and settle on 8's and 7's, why is that?

It's a good question. Many times I find the top girls at a club are always very busy with other guys. It can be hard for reserved guys to chase them down. They also seem to have more confidence as they move through a club. The confidence isn't intimidating to me, but their asking price might be. Late at night, these top girls can be more accessible and in the mood to negotiate. Of course, when you wind up with a top girl in the late hours you have to block out that she's likely already had an earlier session.

Scoring stats aside, my big takeaway from Rextor is that he found Scandallo far superior to clubs in Tijuana, Medellin and Thailand.

[WyattEarp]

There used to be a monger in this thread who would get extremely annoyed when challenged about the optics of the clinica girls (he would regularly claim they looked as good as Scandallo girls). One time, he got angry and proclaimed that he was a long time Sao Paulo resident, and had been mongering in Sampa for years. My response was that fact alone didn't necessarily translate into him having taste with respect to female optics LOL. Again. Some men have it. And some men don't (but often think that they do hahaha). Or, they will say things like it's impossible to intelligently talk about "having taste" with regard to the mongering hobby. I beg to differ.

Yes, some of the guys get very defensive of the clinica girls. Our deceased friend AltoBomGosto would also get a little annoyed. He was making a business or a sideline out of giving foreigners tours of the clinicas. These guys can provide valuable services to newbies.

I think hunting in the clinicas can make for a very fun and interesting afternoon. However, I remember one afternoon I stopped by two Moema clinicas and was disappointed. I walked over to Shopping Ibirapuera for some food and Whatsapp'd a spectacular escort that I knew. I'm not the kind of guy who blows loads all day so I found a special woman.

The funny thing is the mod at the time and ABG were accusing me of being a shill for the escort. I think the shilling for the clinicas has quieted down and there has been civil, sensible discussions about SP clinicas.

[Nounce]

I have exact same question.

My reaction is the same but I refrained from asking right away. My post is not to question OP. Maybe he was the catch, instead of the girl. It is easier for observer to think logically but we don't always follow logic in the heat of the moment.

Act, don't just chat. DFK is free and you should make out in the club to confirm before going to the room.

BTW, we passed on the hottest girl at Scandallo because she has fucked 1000 men all over the world and she does not do BBBJ. LOL.

[EverythingBlue]

At Scandallo I would rate it as: 30% <= 6, 30% 7, 30% 8, 10% 9+.

Another thing I liked about Scandallo was that the nightclub venue seemed to attract less hardened pros. While there were stripper-looking girls, unlike in an actual strip club like HK you can get girls that at least appear to not be complete pros. This might just be a total illusion, but hey the illusion is definitely worth something.

Despite my white girl fetish, I ended up going with a morena clara from Bahia. Really striking, angular, pretty face. She was wearing a coat that hid her body, and once it came it became clear that she didn't*have the greatest body. She was also hiding*a tattoo on her hip (I'm not a fan of big tatoos). I'd put her at an 8 face that comes down to 7 with the body. But she was very nice, and we had a great chat for 30+ minutes before heading upstairs. She opened at 1000, I countered with 600, and she accepted 700. When I asked about DFK and CIM she giggled and quickly agreed. The service in the room was among the best performances I've had with a provider.

One thing I don't see in many reports is the ratio of hot girls to men. Of that 30% of 8's and 10% of 9's how many were actually available to talk to or were willing to talk? In my recent trip I noticed most hot girls are hoarded by locals, and don't get released often, so this idea of having the best available pussy is a little bit of an illusion. A lot of those girls gravitate towards the club tables with bottle services, or they spend a lot of time in sessions.

In my recent experience visiting 4 times within 1 week the best times are a little earlier around 9 pm when the shifts end and new ones begin, or around 2 am or after. Again, competition can be heavy, we visitors are not the only ones with sufficient funds to session, keep that in mind.

As far as pre-screening the girl, I can see you picked the girl thinking she was a solid 8, but didn't get to confirm her looks too well until the clothes came off. I remember my first time I had this girl that was turning me on and grabbing my cock, she was getting me close to agreeing to session when I realized a lot of girls have different tricks to hide their flaws there, so I asked her to get up and turn around for me, I told her plainly that I wanted to see her ass first because I like girls with big ass, we were in the outside patio and I was able to see a small gut, which obviously turned me off. Needless to say I sent her away, and funny thing is she asked me to buy her a salad LOL. I declined, she wasn't going to start her diet on me.

I enjoy the place, and plan on visiting again in my next trip, but I think that the idea that 100's of the hottest girls in the world are just there for you to grab and go is a little over the top, at least currently, I'm not sure if that's really how things were prior to COVID.

[MiamiBoy1]

I am puzzled by your girl selection at Scandalo. You estimated there were 80-100 girls, of which by your standards 24-30 were 8's and 8-10 were 9+. Yet you only spoke to 3 girls; a 6-7, an 8, and a 10, and went with the 8 who was hiding her body (a 6-7 rating as you found out in the room) with a coat. Why would you go with a girl whose body you couldn't even see instead of finding another 8 whose body you could evaluate? Also, since money did not seem to be an issue with you, and they all charge more or less about 700-800 real, why would you even talk to an 8 instead of seeking out the 9+s to talk to first? I would think that would be the order in which to start the girl selection. Were all the 9+s more ghetto than you like with too much makeup so you didn't bother after the first one? Were they not your type for some other reason? Or were they all occupied with other clients or were not interested in talking to you?

P.S. If you like some alcohol before making a selection, most clinicas provide beer for free or at most 10 real, and some provide liquor at 1/3 or less of the cost in Scandalo.

I have exact same question. He estimated the number of girls to be around 100 on a slow night. If 10% are 9+, that means around 10 girls are 9's and 10's. Still a solid number. Why bother talking to 8's?

Few recent reports are pretty much the same. Guys are all impressed with the quality and selection, but for some reason don't pick the hottest women in house and settle on 8's and 7's, why is that?

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I am puzzled by your girl selection at Scandalo. You estimated there were 80-100 girls, of which by your standards 24-30 were 8's and 8-10 were 9+. Yet you only spoke to 3 girls; a 6-7, an 8, and a 10, and went with the 8 who was hiding her body (a 6-7 rating as you found out in the room) with a coat. Why would you go with a girl whose body you couldn't even see instead of finding another 8 whose body you could evaluate? Also, since money did not seem to be an issue with you, and they all charge more or less about 700-800 real, why would you even talk to an 8 instead of seeking out the 9+s to talk to first? I would think that would be the order in which to start the girl selection. Were all the 9+s more ghetto than you like with too much makeup so you didn't bother after the first one? Were they not your type for some other reason? Or were they all occupied with other clients or were not interested in talking to you?

P.S. If you like some alcohol before making a selection, most clinicas provide beer for free or at most 10 real, and some provide liquor at 1/3 or less of the cost in Scandalo.

[The Cane]

In short, Scandallo is clearly the best P4 P establishment that I've been to. I haven't experienced FKKs before but I have a hard time believing that it would be better than this. If you're out there, do yourself a favor and head down here, take advantage of the incredible exchange rate, and partake in this experience. It's not to be missed.

Thank you for your report, and I'm glad you liked Scandallo. A comparison to the German FKKs isn't exactly apples to apples because the FKKs are sauna clubs. An apples to apples comparison would be with the termas of Rio. That said, if I had to choose just one place to spend a mongering evening out, for me it would have to be at Scandallo. That's because I love the Brasilieras, and Scandallo is a wonderful place to find them! But when Quatro por Quatro was hitting on all cylinders way back when, I don't know man. Would be a hard decision to make! But lucky, there is no real need to choose. We can do it all. I want it all!

[Rextor]

Finally, I was able to get to Scandallo yesterday evening (Tuesday). I'm happy to report that it is definitely the best P4 P venue that I have been to. As I mentioned before, I'm comparing against HK in Tijuana, La Isla in Medellin, and gogo bars in Bangkok / Pattaya.

The first thing that strikes you about Scandallo is that It's VERY big. Not just talking about physical size, but the number of girls on a slow Tuesday night national holiday was at least 80-100. The girls are very varied. There is every type there, from tall to short, skinny to thicc, white to. Slightly less white haha (there were only a couple dark skinned women that I saw), highly enhanced to natural, dressed slutty or elegant. And maybe best of all*they are for the most part free of the curse that haunts most other clubs like this. The dreaded "space filler", the girls that you wouldn't have sex with for free.

A combination of these factors leads to my bottom line assessment: this establishment is the best place to find someone P4 P that I would consider a 8+, which is what I consider my minimum standard for going upstairs with a girl. As I mentioned before my tastes tend towards thin, natural, white, pretty faced women.

I offered this assessment of other clubs before, which I'll mostly replicate here:

Tijuana: 50% <= 6, 35% 7, 10% 8, 5% 9+.

La Isla: 30% <= 6, 60% 7, 5% 8, 5% 9+.

Gogos: 70% <= 6, 25% 7, 5% 8+.

At Scandallo I would rate it as:

30% <= 6, 30% 7, 30% 8, 10% 9+.

Let those numbers sink in for a bit. Scandallo had 2. 66 x higher concentration of 8+ women than in HK, 4 x La Isla, and 8 x a Thai gogo bar. You are truly spoiled for choice at a place like Scandallo. At one point, I noticed myself thinking, "Nah she's not that hot" but realized that in any other place I would be dying to call her over for a drink (if she was not already being pursued by 10 other clients at the same time).

I won't go into too much detail about the setting of Scandallo, because there have been many recent reports, and also I'm still figuring it out haha. The entrance elevator leads to the main floor that contains a restaurant, a patio, and the main club floor. I grabbed a drink first at the restaurant, which is where I met my first Scandallo girl, who I would put at a 6/7. We chatted a bit, and she gave me a bit of a lay of the land. Had a chance to work on my very rudimentary Portuguese. 3 weeks of Pimsleur, good Spanish, and occasional use of Google Translate proved to be perfectly adequate to converse with the girls.

I left the first girl and headed over to the main club area. Thus beings the next phase of any P4 P night out, and arguably more enjoyable than the actual sex itself. Getting drunk while ogling and chatting with all the hot girls passing by.

Another thing I liked about Scandallo was that the nightclub venue seemed to attract less hardened pros. While there were stripper-looking girls, unlike in an actual strip club like HK you can get girls that at least appear to not be complete pros. This might just be a total illusion, but hey the illusion is definitely worth something.

I talked with a girl I thought was a 10 with a Barbie body, but when I called her over she was a bit more ghetto than I imagined, and had tons of makeup on. I tossed her back into the sea. Another thing that I really like is the lack of pressure from the girls. Only one of the 3 girls I talked with asked for a drink. The drinks are real drinks, not just make believe fichas, and the girls didn't just drink and bolt but rather would stay with you.

Despite my white girl fetish, I ended up going with a morena clara from Bahia. Really striking, angular, pretty face. She was wearing a coat that hid her body, and once it came it became clear that she didn't*have the greatest body. She was also hiding*a tattoo on her hip (I'm not a fan of big tatoos). I'd put her at an 8 face that comes down to 7 with the body. But she was very nice, and we had a great chat for 30+ minutes before heading upstairs. She opened at 1000, I countered with 600, and she accepted 700. When I asked about DFK and CIM she giggled and quickly agreed. The service in the room was among the best performances I've had with a provider. No rushing, no lying about services rendered, just enjoyable sex. The room itself is also by far the nicest I've been to in P4 P settings.

All in all, I ended up spending about 1500 BRL for the night, including 230 for the room, 700 for the lady, and 330 for drinks, and 200 for entry (400 total entry of which 200 is consumable). This comes out to about $270. Some might find this to be an amount well beyond what they would be comfortable paying,*especially in a developing country like Brazil. But honestly, I've spent more money on P4 P before, and have come away with far less. All things considered, $270 for a night out at a lux nightclub and bedding a hot girl and getting good service is a goddam bargain.

In short, Scandallo is clearly the best P4 P establishment that I've been to. I haven't experienced FKKs before but I have a hard time believing that it would be better than this. If you're out there, do yourself a favor and head down here, take advantage of the incredible exchange rate, and partake in this experience. It's not to be missed.

All of this was during a relatively slow Tuesday night, and I can't wait to head back on Wednesday.

[The Cane]

This is very similar to having a good taste in clothing / style. Some people have it, some people don't, no matter if they can afford expensive stuff or not. A good example of a bad taste would be a guy wearing all Gucci / D&G / etc that looks like a clown.

There used to be a monger in this thread who would get extremely annoyed when challenged about the optics of the clinica girls (he would regularly claim they looked as good as Scandallo girls). One time, he got angry and proclaimed that he was a long time Sao Paulo resident, and had been mongering in Sampa for years. My response was that fact alone didn't necessarily translate into him having taste with respect to female optics LOL. Again. Some men have it. And some men don't (but often think that they do hahaha). Or, they will say things like it's impossible to intelligently talk about "having taste" with regard to the mongering hobby. I beg to differ.

[The Cane]

So when The Cane says most people agree with his idea of hotness, we can conclude that big enhanced tits are hot now, but weren't in the past.

No real idea what in the world you're talking about, or how you reach such a conclusion. It's like you're trying to tell me what I like or something! For your information, I don't mind a tit job as long as it's proportional and well-done (no scarring), and not too big, but dude I happen to prefer them all natural. Ahem!

[The Cane]

Talking about taste in the mongering world is delusional.

If you say so then. Hahahaha.

[Turgid]

You're not talking apples to apples and oranges to oranges. You brought in all kinds of other factors that involve things other than optics alone, which is what this is about. Not, for example, how somebody feels about fucking a woman that lots of other guys are fucking. How does she look is the operative inquiry. That's the point. So, I said it before, and I'll say it again. When The Cane says that a woman is attractive, more people than not tend to agree (both men and women by the way). That's having "optics taste". And I am quite sure about that. Now, that's keeping it straightforward and to the point without muddying the waters with a bunch of extraneous factors that nobody was talking about, or is concerned with to be frank. The matter is simply does this woman have physical characteristics that make her hot or not? That's what's at the crux of this eternal debate.

You seemed to have completely missed my point. Talking about taste in the mongering world is delusional. A street dweller who has found $10,000 and cleaned himself up can fuck the same 8 or 9 you are fucking. So what does having taste matter in that circumstance? Its meaningless. Real taste separates the connoisseur from the ignoramus.