Sao Paulo Reports

[WyattEarp]

Which for me would mean looking forward to the nights since I saw very few women I wanted to fuck at the clinicas, let alone pay a premium for them. Was very disappointing as I expected more.

Nothing can duplicate both the anticipation and exhilaration of visiting the boates and seeing dozens of extraordinary females all on offer. There is nothing like it especially for us North Americans who can't experience anything like this at home. I feel like I'm walking into one of Miami's hottest clubs and almost every woman is friendly and willing to go home with me. That's why I prefer it to the FKK clubs, SE Asia, etc. I like the various Brazilian beauty and shapes. Heavy on Latin looks and curves with an array of ethnic diversity.

Clinicas can be a nice afternoon diversion if you don't feel the need to do a program. If you happen to find a girl you desire, you feel like you hit the jackpot. The clinica girls are generally more service oriented and at clinica prices throwing in a little incentive isn't such a big deal. Clinicas aren't great if you have limited time and you absolutely want to score a hottie.

[Xkalibur80]

I am not biased towards either of the venues, however, The Palms was my top pick in terms of quality and service. Very few know about this place. It is a massage parlour and FS can be had for an additional 150 are. Facilities are top notch compared to clinicas.

I am a sucker for Scandallos but didn't indulge on either of the nights I was there. Now that I know the scene, it will be first preference next time around.

Which for me would mean looking forward to the nights since I saw very few women I wanted to fuck at the clinicas, let alone pay a premium for them. Was very disappointing as I expected more.

[The Cane]

I agree with your larger point which is that occasionally paying a premium for the "whole thing" is totally reasonable.

Which for me would mean looking forward to the nights since I saw very few women I wanted to fuck at the clinicas, let alone pay a premium for them. Was very disappointing as I expected more.

[Member #4732]

Thanks for your report about scandalo, all your information is useful.

I ve been to SP once and only been to Zeus, Casarao and Bomboa, I had good experience in Casarao, I picked a skinny caucasian of german descent for 500 reais all night, zeus is another boate with freelancers but the entrance is more expensive than casarao It is 120 reais with consumption in zeus and bomboa is very interesting but it is very expensive we have to pay to take the girl out I did not pick any girl there just picked one number but did not call the girl because of my departure but it is good to visit this club with your buddies and have good time. I am more into boates with freelancers.

What is the fee to take the girl out in scandalo? Do you have to pay the house to take the girl out? I also love curvy women if they have natural legs and ass I don't like silicon ass. Do the girls are aggressive? Is it easy to negotiate the price if you are good at portuguese?

Fortunately I speak portuguese it is easier to negotiate with the girls.

If anyone knows a list of clubs with freelancers where you don't pay any fee to take the girl out like Zeus and Casarao it would be nice of you to share.

I plan to go to SP for a second time in May.

Most of the boates charge a fee to take the girl out. You suggest that Zeus and Casarao do not charge a "saida" (exit fee)? I know that Casarao certainly does, its 100 reais. And Zeus used to charge, maybe they changed their policy, but they used to charge a fee.

I think that Cafe Photo is the only one that does not charge a girl exit fee.

[Member #4732]

The truth is that they are two very distinct segments of the pussy market, and there is not nearly enough movement of talent between the two to be able to say, as a general rule, you're going to have access to the same talent pool in both the clinicas and the nightclubs. If that were true, the clinicas would put the boites out of business! The reason they don't now is because there are plenty of guys like me, Gannaton48, and obviously tons of others who are willing to pay a premium every now and then to have sexual access to very, very attractive girls. As the man said, we want the "whole thing". A good fuck with good looks!

Agree with most of what you write but not all of it. I don't think it is a question of clinica = lower standard of physical beauty and boate = higher standard, which is sort of how your phrasing might be interpreted by someone who has not visited. Its really that clinica = daytime girls and boate = night time girls. For all sorts of reasons, personal schedule, contacts, economic goals, girls tend to prefer one or the other of these options. Now there are a lot of average lookers at both day and night joints. There are a few real good lookers, statistically speaking, at all places. The significant difference imo is that the successful boates (Scandalo, Bomboa, Casarao.) provide a larger selection in one location, so that statistically speaking there will generally be a few more "tops" in the club. For me it's rare to see 2 out of 10 that I would do even for free at any location. In a daytime lineup of 10 girls that is 2. In a club with 100 GPS, that is 20. So the choice is far larger even if the ratio is the same.

Now, on the "crossover" theory about same girls working both higher and lower cost venues. IMO this is most common with night GPS crossing over to other night spots, not daytime girls deciding to work at night after working all day at the clinica. You will find a lot of the former, and almost none of the latter. I personally know some (not a lot) GPS that move back and forth be / t Bomboa and Casarao, or Scandalo and Casarao, and adjusting their fees up and down for the venue. Scandalo up, Casarao down.

Those quibbles aside, I agree with your larger point which is that occasionally paying a premium for the "whole thing" is totally reasonable.

[The Cane]

Was in SP yesterday too; afternoon at Tangara, big deception: ugly girls excepting maybe a mulatta who didn't seem to be motivated. Left it.

Thanks for keeping it real and giving the full picture. I saw some tutes so fat at Tangara and Vani's Way that you had to question why they were selling ass (and a lot of it LOL) for a living. One can go to the clinicas and pay less to fuck overall less attractive girls. Or, one can choose Scandallo, Bomboa and other options such as escorts to fuck much more attractive girls at higher prices. Now, somebody always chimes in yeah but some of the same girls who work at the clinicas in the daytime go work at the boites at night. I'm sure you can find a sprinkling of those types here and there, but as a general rule you don't have this big shift of the daytime clinica workers going over to the boites at night and charging more money for the exact same pussy!

Let's think about that. We're all rational beings. Well most of us anyway! So, if we knew we could routinely get the exact same pussy for a third the price just by tapping it in the daytime at a clinica versus at nighttime at a boite, then why the hell ever go to a Scandallo or Bomboa or pay some high-priced hooker? No rational buyer would do that, and the boites would be fast out of business. The truth is that they are two very distinct segments of the pussy market, and there is not nearly enough movement of talent between the two to be able to say, as a general rule, you're going to have access to the same talent pool in both the clinicas and the nightclubs. If that were true, the clinicas would put the boites out of business! The reason they don't now is because there are plenty of guys like me, Gannaton48, and obviously tons of others who are willing to pay a premium every now and then to have sexual access to very, very attractive girls. As the man said, we want the "whole thing". A good fuck with good looks!

[Bijou]

Interesting that you reference Adriana Lima and Alessandra Ambrosio. I think it is difficult to find tall, slender, model quality Brasileiras doing programs in Brasil. While you obviously don't mean these two exactly and obviously Brasilian women of this type do exist, I rarely, if ever, have seen women of this nature on my many Brazilian expeditions doing programs. I'm guessing you have to have affluent local contacts who are regular clients of some upscale, discreet services.

Actually I was joking by putting those model names out there, but they certainly have the body type I like. I agree with you-- access to those types will require contacts and probably some time to cultivate something, not only in Brazil. Those model types in the "9+" range most likely aren't going to working in a bar, club, or clinica anywhere in the world, but rather can only be accessed through discreet contacts. Most often on my trips I look for the GNDs in the "7" range at the venues. And I say that fully understanding that "beauty is in the eye of beholder" and many guys wouldn't even consider those types to be attractive.

[WyattEarp]

I had been wanting to go to SP for severis my first trip to SP and second to Brazil with a prior trip to Fortaleza 7 years ago. When I read about the boates in this forum, I was intrigued since I prefer the "bar" or "club" scene. I think another poster mentioned the "high" one can get in these environments from having beautiful women vying for your attention. I did enjoy myself, but can't really say that the cost was worth it since I didn't find my "Adriana Lima", or "Alessandra Ambrosio" types. The clinicas are much less expensive, but also less interactive prior to choosing a girl with the "higher end" clinicas having even less interaction having to choose from photos on a tablet.

Interesting that you reference Adriana Lima and Alessandra Ambrosio. I think it is difficult to find tall, slender, model quality Brasileiras doing programs in Brasil. While you obviously don't mean these two exactly and obviously Brasilian women of this type do exist, I rarely, if ever, have seen women of this nature on my many Brazilian expeditions doing programs. I'm guessing you have to have affluent local contacts who are regular clients of some upscale, discreet services.

Even fair-haired, fair complected Brasilian girls seem to have very curvy figures. One of the hottest girls, if not the hottest, I have ever hooked up with was a girl working at Barbarella in 2004. She saved me the bar fee by meeting me the next day, but she still charged me US $125 for two hours. Given the weak Reais and the fact you could get other hot girls for US $50-75 of which many would stay overnight, that was relatively a lot of money locally at that time. She said she only agreed to meet with me later for that price because she said I was funny and cute. Believe it or not, I think she was getting more for her time and she wasn't all that concerned about getting booked. This Brasilian woman looked like a brunette Italian model with a look and body straight out of Penthouse magazine. My crew said I would never get another chance to fuck a very amicable Penthouse type model in my apartment for $125. Even though she was relatively slim from her waist up, she still had that Brasilian pop her in ass which was fine for my tastes. She provided relatively passionate GFE sex and DFK if you can overlook something like oral with condom. Having said that, I don't think physically she would meet your qualifications.

Some say that the girls in the South of Brasil are taller and slimmer, but even the ones I have met working in Rio and SP have accentuated curves. Perhaps you should visit Porto Alegre and Florianopolis to find out.

[Komo753]

SP Trip Report.

I had been wanting to go to SP for several years, but things always fell through. This time everything fell into place and I was able to arrange for a 3 night visit to SP. I stayed in an AirBNB apartment in Jardin-Paulista area because I was more interested in the Boates rather than the clinicas which would have been more readily accessible from the Moema area. I arrived on an overnight flight and took the Airport Shuttle to Congonhas Airport for about 48 are. From there I took a taxi to an AirBNB private room so I could sleep for a few hours before I checked into the actual AirBNB where I would stay. (I had to do this because early check in wasn't available and after traveling 9+ hours, I wanted to rest up before heading out for the night). Except for this taxi ride, the rest of the time I used Uber which was easy and inexpensive compared to the taxis, including taking back to the airport for my return trip home. My first Uber driver was English speaking and so I hired him as a private driver on an hourly basis for taking me around one day. (If anyone wants his contact info, PM me). I met up with Rovnak who is an expat living in SP and another ISG member that had been in SP for 2 weeks (sorry don't know screen name). Rovnak is a good wealth information and I appreciated him guiding me on my first trip to SP.

Wednesday Night..

Thanks for your report about scandalo, all your information is useful.

I ve been to SP once and only been to Zeus, Casarao and Bomboa, I had good experience in Casarao, I picked a skinny caucasian of german descent for 500 reais all night, zeus is another boate with freelancers but the entrance is more expensive than casarao It is 120 reais with consumption in zeus and bomboa is very interesting but it is very expensive we have to pay to take the girl out I did not pick any girl there just picked one number but did not call the girl because of my departure but it is good to visit this club with your buddies and have good time. I am more into boates with freelancers.

What is the fee to take the girl out in scandalo? Do you have to pay the house to take the girl out? I also love curvy women if they have natural legs and ass I don't like silicon ass. Do the girls are aggressive? Is it easy to negotiate the price if you are good at portuguese?

Fortunately I speak portuguese it is easier to negotiate with the girls.

If anyone knows a list of clubs with freelancers where you don't pay any fee to take the girl out like Zeus and Casarao it would be nice of you to share.

I plan to go to SP for a second time in May.

[Gannaton48]

SP Trip Report.

I had been wanting to go to SP for several years, but things always fell through. This time everything fell into place and I was able to arrange for a 3 night visit to SP. I stayed in an AirBNB apartment in Jardin-Paulista area because I was more interested in the Boates rather than the clinicas which would have been more readily accessible from the Moema area. I arrived on an overnight flight and took the Airport Shuttle to Congonhas Airport for about 48 are. From there I took a taxi to an AirBNB private room so I could sleep for a few hours before I checked into the actual AirBNB where I would stay. (I had to do this because early check in wasn't available and after traveling 9+ hours, I wanted to rest up before heading out for the night). Except for this taxi ride, the rest of the time I used Uber which was easy and inexpensive compared to the taxis, including taking back to the airport for my return trip home. My first Uber driver was English speaking and so I hired him as a private driver on an hourly basis for taking me around one day. (If anyone wants his contact info, PM me). I met up with Rovnak who is an expat living in SP and another ISG member that had been in SP for 2 weeks (sorry don't know screen name). Rovnak is a good wealth information and I appreciated him guiding me on my first trip to SP.

Wednesday Night.

 Scandallo: well reviewed on this board. I got in right at 7 pm which is the cut off time to have the 150 R entry (instead of 220 R). Good food. Large number of girls, many curvy and voluptuous types with the famous Brazilian "bundas". Unfortunately, I prefer either the GND or model type slim girls (VS or SI model type bodies) and although there were a few mixed in, I didn't see any that I was willing to pay the 500 R / hour going rate + room charge (150 R? I started winding down around 11 pm and wound up leaving alone soon after.

Thursday Night.

 Bomboa 222: not as well reviewed on this board as above, but I actually liked it better. Got there about 9 pm. 250 R entry all of which can be used for consumption. When arrived, some girls from earlier in the day were leaving and new girls working the night were coming in. Not as many girls as Scandallo, but more my type. Good food. More of a bar-restaurant feel. Good band. Found 2 girls my type willing to do 3 some with girl-girl show, so took them to my apartment for 500 R each + 200 R fee to the house. Expensive but worth it. I saw a sign somewhere inside stating from 12-5 pm, the entry was 150 R. With the quality of some of the girls that were leaving when I arrived, it may be worth it to check out Bomboa earlier in the day.

Friday Night.

 Casarao: Per Rovnak, unlike the prior two venues, this had more independent girls / freelancers. He advised me to get there at 10:30 pm which I did with 30 R entry, which covers 3 beers, or 1 caipirinha like I was drinking. Right when I got in, it wasn't crowded and I saw a few that were my type, but I wanted to see what else would be available as the night went on. Unfortunately, I never saw them again and as it filled up by around 12:30 am, I didn't see any more that I was interested in. This venue is more like a dance club and very crowded the later it gets.

Miscellaneous.

 Cafe Photo: I was told by Rovnak that this is also another freelancer place and I really wanted to visit this venue, but did not get to on this trip.

 As mentioned a few times on this board, the best days for Scandalo, Bomboa 222, and Cafe Photo are Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays. Casarao is good on weekend nights.

 Lotus Lounge: I wanted to check out the higher end clinicas, but only made it to this one. Girls are on site, but you choose from a tablet and there is no presentation like in the mid and lower clinicas.

 Brooklin, EnjoySpa: Girls do a quick presentation and I thought they were equal in quality of facilities and girls.

 Chane 57: Newer clinica that allows you to hang out with the girls if you buy drinks.

 I really struggled with the Portuguese language. Although I speak enough Spanish to get me by in other countries and even though girls and other people understand Spanish, they respond in Portuguese.

 GPGuia.net: It is easy to use a VPN (I used Hola) create an account and access this Brazilian forum from outside Brazil. Use Google translate to read the forum. It gives you a complete run down of all boates, clinicas, prives, and independents not only in SP, but several cities throughout Brazil.

Summary:

This is my first trip to SP and second to Brazil with a prior trip to Fortaleza 7 years ago. When I read about the boates in this forum, I was intrigued since I prefer the "bar" or "club" scene. I think another poster mentioned the "high" one can get in these environments from having beautiful women vying for your attention. I did enjoy myself, but can't really say that the cost was worth it since I didn't find my "Adriana Lima", or "Alessandra Ambrosio" types. The clinicas are much less expensive, but also less interactive prior to choosing a girl with the "higher end" clinicas having even less interaction having to choose from photos on a tablet.

I'm glad I only visited for 3 nights and can now check SP off my list of places I wanted to visit. I enjoyed my visit, but didn't find anything that's drawing my back quickly.

In the meantime, there's still more of the world to explore.

Was in SP yesterday too; afternoon at Tangara, big deception: ugly girls excepting maybe a mulatta who did'nt seem to be motivated. Left it. Sorry ABG, each one's taste!

At 8 pm Scandallo, short dinner (not really good!) already many chicks but the real happening is at 10 pm when the grand salon opens with band playing. Probably 150 girls, all beautiful in their style. I don't like big siliconized bundas and breasts but everyone, really, can find his gem. AFter a caipirinha a nice girl, beautiful face and eyes, good body, simply dressed in a black robe, approched me. Extremely sympathetic, that's also what I am looking for. Others may be more sexy but not nice. She as the prototype of the "girl next door". Was reluctant to do sucking without but, as a medical scientist, I convinced her (but not CIM). In the room, sex was just normal but she was extremely GFE, although I am 40 years older and not Apollon! I think she liked it as I did and we went for 40 min oral sex both ways. She was indeed exactly what I hoped to find and this is THE advantage of Scandallo: all types are present; tired from jetlag I left at 11 h30 pm but in the meantime probably more girls had arrived. Now I agree that the price is a problem: 600 Reals + room 200 + entrance 220. Yes I know, but I had one of my best experiences in my life since I don't look for PSE. The price difference with clinicas is justified by the fact that, honestly, there is a world between the beauty of the girls. Now ABG would say sex is not better: right! However I am looking for a whole thing, not just fucking.

[Bijou]

SP Trip Report.

I had been wanting to go to SP for several years, but things always fell through. This time everything fell into place and I was able to arrange for a 3 night visit to SP. I stayed in an AirBNB apartment in Jardin-Paulista area because I was more interested in the Boates rather than the clinicas which would have been more readily accessible from the Moema area. I arrived on an overnight flight and took the Airport Shuttle to Congonhas Airport for about 48 are. From there I took a taxi to an AirBNB private room so I could sleep for a few hours before I checked into the actual AirBNB where I would stay. (I had to do this because early check in wasn't available and after traveling 9+ hours, I wanted to rest up before heading out for the night). Except for this taxi ride, the rest of the time I used Uber which was easy and inexpensive compared to the taxis, including taking back to the airport for my return trip home. My first Uber driver was English speaking and so I hired him as a private driver on an hourly basis for taking me around one day. (If anyone wants his contact info, PM me). I met up with Rovnak who is an expat living in SP and another ISG member that had been in SP for 2 weeks (sorry don't know screen name). Rovnak is a good wealth information and I appreciated him guiding me on my first trip to SP.

Wednesday Night.

 Scandallo: well reviewed on this board. I got in right at 7 pm which is the cut off time to have the 150 R entry (instead of 220 R). Good food. Large number of girls, many curvy and voluptuous types with the famous Brazilian "bundas". Unfortunately, I prefer either the GND or model type slim girls (VS or SI model type bodies) and although there were a few mixed in, I didn't see any that I was willing to pay the 500 R / hour going rate + room charge (150 R? I started winding down around 11 pm and wound up leaving alone soon after.

Thursday Night.

 Bomboa 222: not as well reviewed on this board as above, but I actually liked it better. Got there about 9 pm. 250 R entry all of which can be used for consumption. When arrived, some girls from earlier in the day were leaving and new girls working the night were coming in. Not as many girls as Scandallo, but more my type. Good food. More of a bar-restaurant feel. Good band. Found 2 girls my type willing to do 3 some with girl-girl show, so took them to my apartment for 500 R each + 200 R fee to the house. Expensive but worth it. I saw a sign somewhere inside stating from 12-5 pm, the entry was 150 R. With the quality of some of the girls that were leaving when I arrived, it may be worth it to check out Bomboa earlier in the day.

Friday Night.

 Casarao: Per Rovnak, unlike the prior two venues, this had more independent girls / freelancers. He advised me to get there at 10:30 pm which I did with 30 R entry, which covers 3 beers, or 1 caipirinha like I was drinking. Right when I got in, it wasn't crowded and I saw a few that were my type, but I wanted to see what else would be available as the night went on. Unfortunately, I never saw them again and as it filled up by around 12:30 am, I didn't see any more that I was interested in. This venue is more like a dance club and very crowded the later it gets.

Miscellaneous.

 Cafe Photo: I was told by Rovnak that this is also another freelancer place and I really wanted to visit this venue, but did not get to on this trip.

 As mentioned a few times on this board, the best days for Scandalo, Bomboa 222, and Cafe Photo are Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays. Casarao is good on weekend nights.

 Lotus Lounge: I wanted to check out the higher end clinicas, but only made it to this one. Girls are on site, but you choose from a tablet and there is no presentation like in the mid and lower clinicas.

 Brooklin, EnjoySpa: Girls do a quick presentation and I thought they were equal in quality of facilities and girls.

 Chane 57: Newer clinica that allows you to hang out with the girls if you buy drinks.

 I really struggled with the Portuguese language. Although I speak enough Spanish to get me by in other countries and even though girls and other people understand Spanish, they respond in Portuguese.

 GPGuia.net: It is easy to use a VPN (I used Hola) create an account and access this Brazilian forum from outside Brazil. Use Google translate to read the forum. It gives you a complete run down of all boates, clinicas, prives, and independents not only in SP, but several cities throughout Brazil.

Summary:

This is my first trip to SP and second to Brazil with a prior trip to Fortaleza 7 years ago. When I read about the boates in this forum, I was intrigued since I prefer the "bar" or "club" scene. I think another poster mentioned the "high" one can get in these environments from having beautiful women vying for your attention. I did enjoy myself, but can't really say that the cost was worth it since I didn't find my "Adriana Lima", or "Alessandra Ambrosio" types. The clinicas are much less expensive, but also less interactive prior to choosing a girl with the "higher end" clinicas having even less interaction having to choose from photos on a tablet.

I'm glad I only visited for 3 nights and can now check SP off my list of places I wanted to visit. I enjoyed my visit, but didn't find anything that's drawing my back quickly.

In the meantime, there's still more of the world to explore.

[AltoBomGosto]

Me and my friend Carlos had a wonderfull evening there.

First took Alice to the room, nice brunette, tall, model type, nice face and nice body.

GFE, DFK, BBBJ, vaginal.

Gran finale: BBBJ & CIM.

Second round went with Thamires, 20 YO blond, blue eyes, GFE.

Very good BBBJ, deep throat, than she came on top, another BBBJ. Didn't do CIM.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

We had a wonderfull evening, had some beers first took Cleo to the room, nice brunette, small, nice face and nice body.

GFE, DFK, BBBJ, deep throat, vaginal.

Gran finale: BBBJ & CIM.

Second round went with Sofia, 20 YO ruiva, blue eyes, GFE. Very good BBBJ than she on top, another BBBJ and a gerat CIM.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

Eduarda, 20 YO, nice face, model type body, morena clara.

Very GFE, greta DFK.

Excellent BBBJ and CIM, Came twice in her mouth. Gave her 50 reais tip.

Cost : girl + room 150 reais = 1 h.

IMO Tangara now has the best selection of young girls of the clinicas of So Paulo.

ABG.

[AltoBomGosto]

There is a new mulata working at Tangara, Ketty is her name, afro-brasilian, nice face natural tits, brasilain body, nice butt.

Very goo DFK, than BBBJ, rimming and BBBJ / CIM.

Vaginal is also very good, she is new in the business. Very thight pussy.

After finished with Ketty I went first to Enjoy Spa and than Chanés 57, met JUJU, a nice brasilian morema, completa with DKF, BBBJ / CIM and ANAL.

Very nice atmosfere at the bar / boite.

ABG.