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08-14-18 03:44 #8877
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Rovnak [View Original Post]
Jardins is a dense commercial (Avenida Paulista) and residential area which is great for walking. It's also where most business people and tourists stay as evidenced by the number of hotels, but you won't get a neighborhood feel. Perhaps staying in Moema will feel more authentic and laid-back (for Sao Paulo that is).
HarvestBoi, I would plan your daytime and nighttime civilian activities. Your taking reasonable taxi rides to the boates no matter where you stay.
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08-14-18 01:50 #8876
Posts: 648Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
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08-13-18 23:41 #8875
Posts: 180Originally Posted by Nordico [View Original Post]
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08-13-18 23:37 #8874
Posts: 180Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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08-13-18 20:10 #8873
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by HarvestBoi [View Original Post]
Moema is nice and it's not really too far away from Jardins. From what I remember, it's quieter, but you do have access to a decent mall and the Park Ibirapuera. The subway does not run through Moema.
There are top escorts working in apartments in both Jardins and Moema.
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08-13-18 19:51 #8872
Posts: 648Originally Posted by HarvestBoi [View Original Post]
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08-13-18 18:44 #8871
Posts: 6416Traffic in Sampa.
Originally Posted by HarvestBoi [View Original Post]
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08-13-18 18:34 #8870
Posts: 310Originally Posted by Rovnak [View Original Post]
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08-13-18 18:17 #8869
Posts: 2041I like both cities because I like Brazil and I like cities. There is enough info here on the forum for any newbie to make a choice (if need to choose). This discussion comes up all the time. I can't think of two mongering destinations that are compared more.
It's very simple in my head. Likely a tourist in Rio will stay in Copa or Ipanema (or very nearby). It's not a stretch that this might feel like a Brazilian Miami Beach. Not exactly, but similar. On cloudy days or days off from the beach, I find many things to do. Rio is one of the most beautiful cities in the world from a geographic perspective. The mongering opportunities are ample.
Sao Paulo, on the other hand, is like a vast Brazilian New York City. Since I like cities, I can find daytime activities to keep me busy. However, I enjoy my non-mongering time in Rio far more. The mongering opportunities are greater than Rio. You will find more choices, various price levels, etc. Etc.
People are touching on language. Learning some Portuguese always goes a long way in both cities. I've walked into clinicas, termas and have not spoken a word of English and everyone has been very helpful reacting to my very limited Portuguese. They know why you are there. Uber is a game changer. No need to discuss where you are going and the best way to get there. No exchange of money.
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08-13-18 17:53 #8868
Posts: 15Originally Posted by Rovnak [View Original Post]
I was quoted a price of 250 Reals plus an extra 40 for the room, from a pretty friendly girl but decided not to partake tonight. All in all seemed like a fun spot but kinda quiet. Which might just have been because it was a Sunday. I'll be back to check it out throughout the week and see how it picks up.
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08-13-18 12:50 #8867
Posts: 648One note on SP and distance. Yes its a huge city and yes the mongering scene is spread out more than in Rio but it is e tiredly manageable if you stay in the right neighborhood. I live in Moema and can WALK to no less than 9 clinicas. They are a few blocks apart from each other. And they are high end clinicas. TG and Brooklin are both 20 minutes, $5 by uber. Casarao about 30 minutes, $10-15 by uber. Uber is a game changer for mongers in sp. No worries about going to an out of the way clinica and getting hung out to dry because there are no nearby taxis. Even the metro is getting better. Actually I can now metro from moema to brooklins and soon from moema to vila Mariana which will be a option over uber during rush hour.
The big thing that screws a lot of visitors is rush hour and staying in wrong place. If you want to visit daytime clinicas stay near them, don't stay in the center. Distance is not an issue late at night so you can always uber to casarao or other boates after 9 pm w out traffic issues. But don't put yourself in a position where you will be sitting in traffic every day at 5-7 pm.
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08-13-18 09:28 #8866
Posts: 2345Just a couple points that I hope might be helpful.
The easiest intro normally for a first timer to Brazil is Rio, and more specifically Copacabana or one of the adjacent areas like Ipanema or Botafogo. The downsides is that Rio's economy has hit rock bottom and there is more crime than usual, so more caution is needed on the street or the beaches. The other downside is that prices are not what they used to be. The clinicas are still good value, but this does mean that apart from Copa (when many people speak English) you need to navigate Centro and it's multipurpose high-rises and behave appropriately.
Rio, the southern part used by tourists, can be grasped fairly readily with a bit of effort though. (Search the forum for Spertos maps as well if you can).
SP by comparison is the largest city in the Southern Hemisphere. It is huge, by any standards. Transportation system is well-designed and fully integrated the travel card is probably the best in the world but it will need patience and a little study the first time, and especially adjusting travel times to avoid if possible the rush hours. The great advantage is that mongering is more stable, well organised, good value for money and you are not likely to get ripped off. For general tourism, it helps if you are interested in the Arts, fine dining, that sort of thing. There's no beach unless you travel quite a love big way Paulistanos tend to be well-educated, much like Europeans, they are also very polite and expect the same (Brazilian politeness: ie, dress down, speak softly, start conversations are even casual greetings will "Good day, how are you?" (Bom DIA; tudo bem?) Failures in this respect will appear to go unnoticed but you will be marked down as what the Brits call a chav and the Americans a redneck.
While service providers in SP are great value, you may need to watch you budget on hotels and eating out.
FKKs vs Brazil is a common query but the wrong question. The two are completely different. Also, Brazilian SPs abroad are not indicative of mongering when they are at home in Brazil. It's culture, nit nationality. The only similarity is deluxe premises if that is your thing, which you can find in all the best termas and FKKs. Brazilians are very outgoing by nature. Germans and Eastern Europeans are not. Your experience in either country is improved if you speak German or Portuguese but they are still a different type of experience (both overpriced in my opinion, as there is good, better priced options in both countries) but both are something that most mongers should try at least once. You have to try both before you can compare, honestly.
By the way it's cold in SP just now, whereas Germany is enjoying very sunny weather.
Enjoy.
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08-13-18 02:58 #8865
Posts: 1749Originally Posted by ThadMax [View Original Post]
OTOH, Rio is a vacation city with the beach and spectacular landscape. It has a much more relaxed feel. My recommendation would be to fly into Sao Paulo for a few days and try out various venues. Then move on to Rio and hang out on the beach and try a different termas each day. Also, like many other destinations, the online scene (Facebook, Tinder, escorts, etc) has become huge. Rio may not be as good as it was 15 years ago, but it's still a great destination.
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08-12-18 19:29 #8864
Posts: 115Sao Paulo or Rio (for a first-timer)?
Greetings fellow travelers! I've been a long admirer of the boards and have contributed intel to the Colombia forum. I'm a big fan of Medellin and have also been to Montreal and FKK (which I enjoyed) - but I keep hearing that Brazil is where it's at. Would you recommend Sao Paulo or Rio for a first-timer? Also. I keep seeing references to POA. Where is that? Is Porto Alegre part of Rio or a separate locale in itself (for mongering purposes). I'm RTFF but figured the context of being a first time visitor may be important in deciding where to go first. Thanks in advance!
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08-12-18 13:36 #8863
Posts: 648Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
Casarao is in a league by itself when it comes to price and volume. Then there are a bunch of crappy places priced like Casarao but with only a handful of ladies.