Sao Paulo Reports

[DonCarlos1234]

I agree with you about the girls and how they make their money. I was referring to Scandallo the business. I don't think they are very concerned about how much money the girls make, at leasts not enough to lower the entrance fee. The garotas will continue to show up for the prospect of scoring that BRL1,500 date. I know guys who don't go anywhere except Scandallo when they are in Sao Paulo. There is definitely a dedicated fan base.

Just for comparison to show you what a great deal Scandallo is.

In Brazil it appears they combine VIP Service mingled with dinners, "consumption" and a plethora of girls wandering around trying to meet guys with the most $$$ Same here but "consumption" is never included. (You guys are lucky).

The top 3 clubs here have 200 + dancers at any given time. With 2 basic levels of service.

1st level the general public pays for seating, drinks and pay as you go for dances. Limiting the general admission customer to voyeurism with a few dances. But not as intimate as the VIP area. Still can cost hundreds or thousands of dollars if you have the money and go crazy having never seen a 10 before. These are generic VIP areas for the general public. Girls are usually lined up on weekends with customers waiting to enter. It' a waste of money.

Separating the wheat from the chaff.

2nd level are whales in the VIP rooms. They say, "There's no sex in the VIP rooms" although I think it's possible because the costs are astronomical. Minimums are $5,000 for a reserved booth. Plus whatever you spend there. Champagne isn't cheap. Food delivered, can last all night. These rooms generate more $ than all the 2,000+ general admission customers combined. Now that's consumption!

The top tier girls are sent to those rooms. Girls who "work" these rooms make a minimum of $2,000/ night. They pay up to $150/ night to work at the club. I have seen guys put envelopes of many thousands of dollars of cash in front of these girls propositioning them. These girls drive expensive cars and own multiple homes. So some actually decline offers but some meet clients outside the club. They are not allowed to leave with a customer.

A lot of these girls fly in from SoCal to work weekends, special events and conventions. I have been told John Wayne airport has certain flight with 50% strippers heading to work Vegas weekends. OK some are not just strippers. We have over 20,000 entertainers (licensed) that work in Vegas from the USA mostly. LOL.

One night I was talking to an owner at one of the clubs. I was told VIP clients (whales) support 90% of their business. They have 5,000 customers / night on weekends. The volume is necessary to weed out the whales for our VIP rooms. And it makes the girls happy.

Scandallo is a cheap date by comparison. I can hardly wait. Forgot to mention we all know the USA's top clubs offer "blue balls vs. Complete service" in Brazil".

[Hobbying]

When I was younger it was all about getting 2 different girls a day overall spend 2 k reais a day with club fees etc. Some girls may have been great with some avg.

Now that I am older, I rather get 1 hot arm candy for about 2 k a day and spend a few days together and get BBFS and extras. We got tested together.

Last few months at Scandallo spent a week with a magazine model, fashion model, and tv actress. They go there every couple of months when they need extra cash or find a new sugar so yes gems can be found still if you don't mind spending 10 k a week for one or a little over 2 k usd which is an incredible deal still.

[Knowledge]

I agree with you about the girls and how they make their money. I was referring to Scandallo the business. I don't think they are very concerned about how much money the girls make, at leasts not enough to lower the entrance fee. The garotas will continue to show up for the prospect of scoring that BRL1,500 date. I know guys who don't go anywhere except Scandallo when they are in Sao Paulo. There is definitely a dedicated fan base.

I don't think a few groups of guys are enough for the girls to make money, because not every guy goes there to fuck, no matter the rates. No sex = no money for the girls, no room or take out fee for the venue. I don't think high entrance fee is an issue, because most of it is consumable. But girls, who are freelancers, can't just raise the rates indefinitely, outpacing the rate of inflation, because at some point even fewer guys will fuck them.

[The Critic]

I'm very curious on what data this place went by in making the decision to increasing the prices for everyone there. Not only that but they made the rules more strict for the clients and the girls.

I share your curiosity since I have experienced two price (entrance) hikes. However, the entrance fee is not much my concern due to the consumable portion. Now the Talent rates that is another story. I can understand them trying to make a living but sometimes I just laugh at some of the quotes I have received. Overall, I try to have fun and see what my budget gets me. I do like AxelHeyst's cost strategy.

[Fewdie]

I'm very curious on what data this place went by in making the decision to increasing the prices for everyone there. Not only that but they made the rules more strict for the clients and the girls.

I concur, but I do not think Scandallo cares about the foreigners who patronize the venue. The "Rich" or "well to do" Brasileiro's are the ones making the market. Since SP is the Financial Capital, I'm sure there is plenty of money slouching around. Only if the Brasileiro's start balking at the price and not showing up will the venue take some mitigation measures to reign in prices. As it has been mentioned in previous posts the "Talent is Charged a Fee" to be there, so they at least have to charge Fee+Rate=Quote to make it worthwhile (profit) to be there.

I like this simple strategy. Will employ next trip. It's straightforward and can be adjusted on the fly.

Since you "I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs".

Surely you can elaborate on your conversation with the manager, I would (and sure everyone else) be interested in his response to your complaint / inquiry. I would like to know if he expressed an opinion regarding your "Inputs"? Did he show concern when you expressed dissatisfaction with the pricing or was he disappointed when you indicated that you would not be back because of pricing? Or better yet did he lower the pricing on your accord?

Inquiring minds would like to know. Especially if your able to tell us the new pricing structure you were able to broker (for all us customers) so the Scandallo can continue to be a "going concern"?

[The Critic]

I don't think a few groups of guys are enough for the girls to make money, because not every guy goes there to fuck, no matter the rates. No sex = no money for the girls, no room or take out fee for the venue. I don't think high entrance fee is an issue, because most of it is consumable. But girls, who are freelancers, can't just raise the rates indefinitely, outpacing the rate of inflation, because at some point even fewer guys will fuck them.

I concur, but I do not think Scandallo cares about the foreigners who patronize the venue. The "Rich" or "well to do" Brasileiro's are the ones making the market. Since SP is the Financial Capital, I'm sure there is plenty of money slouching around. Only if the Brasileiro's start balking at the price and not showing up will the venue take some mitigation measures to reign in prices. As it has been mentioned in previous posts the "Talent is Charged a Fee" to be there, so they at least have to charge Fee+Rate=Quote to make it worthwhile (profit) to be there.

Most Scandallo tier 2 quality girls will ask anywhere from 600 to 1000 and will settle for 600 to 800. A tier 1 girl (model quality) will ask anywhere from 1200 to 2000. My simple rule is offer half and be willing to settle for half plus 200 if I really want the girl and she will not go lower. A Scandallo Tier 1 girl example: after a 20 to 30 minute drink & audition that went well, a very attractive girl might ask for 1500. I will counter with a friendly 700 counteroffer, and that's that unless the girl counters my counter with 800 or 900 offer in which case, I will usually accept it and off we go. No girl this trip turned down my final offer of half + 200.

I like this simple strategy. Will employ next trip. It's straightforward and can be adjusted on the fly.

My number best Luxury place was Scandallo. (I also was there in March). This place has taken a major hit. First last week quite bad / empty. (the manager was claiming it is a school close week etc. , But the very average 5 out of 10 girl was asking 1500. I had the same experience with multiple people. (trust me I am an experienced person. Been to Scandallo atleast 50-75 nights). Just got irritating. 1500 with USD to Reals was around 4. 65 = that is $322? + the 500 entrance ($108) + room 260 ($56) = total = 500 $ give or take. That I can get it in US itself. The whole charm was hot girls in abundance, a place with luxury and prices relatively cheaper that US. I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs. If this is the case, people will stop coming here. How much ever you have a great luxury place and easy concept. But 500 $ is just unacceptable. So literally, I left from this place and went to Casarao. My number 1 place is gone. I have a business class ticket in place in April next year and I will be cancelling. Shocker.

Since you "I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs".

Surely you can elaborate on your conversation with the manager, I would (and sure everyone else) be interested in his response to your complaint / inquiry. I would like to know if he expressed an opinion regarding your "Inputs"? Did he show concern when you expressed dissatisfaction with the pricing or was he disappointed when you indicated that you would not be back because of pricing? Or better yet did he lower the pricing on your accord?

Inquiring minds would like to know. Especially if your able to tell us the new pricing structure you were able to broker (for all us customers) so the Scandallo can continue to be a "going concern"?

[Aristhotle]

Ok. My first night in Sao Paulo and I decided to try an escort. A girl called Bruna Kalifa was in my sights (link after my report below). I wanted a threesome in hope for some lesbian action on it. Didn't really get that. I'll explain.

So I ask her to bring a friend and she does. The friend was a mixed girl with a thick girl curvy figure. I liked the friend physically speaking, but she may not be physically beautiful for everyone.

Bruna Kalifa herself was a total hottie. What you see in the ad picture is what you get. Skinny but with firm female shape and fake tities. She has a small tattoo right under her left front shoulder (whereas in the pic she doesn't).

My desire was for lesbianism in this threesome and it wasn't great lesbianism. They close mouthed kiss each other, and after kind of almost begging them, I got Bruna to suck her friend's titties. But they wouldn't go down on each other, and laughed and joked about even trying anything else lesbian.

Bruna's friend wasn't much of a freak. Dare I say she was terrible. But Bruna seemed like more of a freak. Her pussy and asshole both tasted clean and delish. Bruna was fun whereas her friend Camilla wasn't. I perhaps think I should have been with only Bruna Kalifa, and not asked for the threesome with her friend. It does look like Bruna Kalifa is worth it for solos action. Don't engage her on a threesome. I don't think she is very bi. But seeing her alone definitely seems like the smarter idea. Bruna sucked cock like a champ and looked amazing.

Bruna was 400 reals for 1 hour, plus the price of the Uber. See her alone. Don't see her with another girl.

https://mclassbrasil.com.br/acompanhantes/bruna-kalifa/

[Aristhotle]

Ok. My first night in Sao Paulo and I decided to try an escort. A girl called Bruna Kalifa was in my sights (link after my report below). I wanted a threesome in hope for some lesbian action on it. Didn't really get that. I'll explain.

So I ask her to bring a friend and she does. The friend was a mixed girl with a thick girl curvy figure. I liked her.

Bruna Kalifa herself was a total hottie. What you see in the ad picture is what you get. Skinny but with firm female shape and fake tities. She has a small tattoo right under her left front shoulder (whereas in the pic she doesn't).

My desire was for lesbianism in this threesome and it wasn't great lesbianism. They close mouthed kiss each other, and after kind of almost begging them, I got Bruna to suck her friend's titties. But they wouldn't go down on each other, and laughed and joked about even trying anything else lesbian.

Bruna's friend wasn't much of a freak. Dare I say she was terrible. But Bruna seemed like more of a freak. Her pussy and asshole both tasted clean and delish. Bruna was fun whereas her friend Camilla wasn't. I perhaps think I should have been with only Bruna Kalifa, and not asked for the threesome with her friend. It does look like Bruna Kalifa is worth it for solos action. Don't engage her on a threesome. I don't think she is very bi. But seeing her alone definitely seems like the smarter idea. Bruna sucked cock like a champ and looked amazing.

Bruna was 400 reals for 1 hour, plus the price of the Uber. See her alone. Don't see her with another girl.

https://mclassbrasil.com.br/acompanhantes/bruna-kalifa/

[MiamiBoy1]

I don't see why Scandallo would lower its prices. They have a great reputation and a steady stream of repeat and first time customers. They really only need a few groups of guys to make their night.

I'm pretty sure there is an expense account customer group. At least that's how I was first invited to a night out there. Every year that goes by I"m less likely to return because I spend more and more time sleeping at night and more and more of my fun time is during daylight hours. I remember lots of good looking girls but basic food.

I don't think a few groups of guys are enough for the girls to make money, because not every guy goes there to fuck, no matter the rates. No sex = no money for the girls, no room or take out fee for the venue. I don't think high entrance fee is an issue, because most of it is consumable. But girls, who are freelancers, can't just raise the rates indefinitely, outpacing the rate of inflation, because at some point even fewer guys will fuck them.

[HiddenEye]

As I already told before, I propose photo shoots to escorts who want to make a more income and get free professional pics. Most of the girls, not all unfortunately, brazilians or argies, accept. Lower acceptance rate from peruvians and chileans, they tend to be more conservative. Colombians love shoots, but I don't go to Colombia for almost 15 years. The venezuelans I know are managed by gangs, so no deal with them.

But this happened the other way around in Sao Paulo, I mean, I booked a model for a sexy shoot, didn't know she was actually an escort. I contacted this lovely brunette from a promo models group on facebook, where job offers are posted. We exchanged a few messages showing my work and finally fixed a price and date for a bikini shoot. I was impressed by her boobs, silicon indeed.

The model made no complaints with shooting in a love motel, where we met in a very sunny afternoon, so that was a pink flag for me already. She made a nice modeling job, very nice curves, bikini and topless, but the fun thing happened at the end of the shoot. She received a phone call from a friend, and they were talking about the boates we mention on this group. So, my ears suddenly transformed into radars. And when we were getting ready to leave, I made the definitive question "voce faz programa?" (are you a working girl? And she said yes, I do. (sim eu faco programa) and of course I made the immediate proposal.

What do you think about R500 for a quick?. And she said ok, let's do it. So those lovely tits bounced in front of my eyes and I ended up pulling that magnificent black long hair in doggy style for a few minutes next to the pool of the love motel. It was nice relaxation after a sexy photoshoot.

But the story does not end there, I asked if she had a friend who would like to shoot, and she proposed a girl who looked just fine on her Instagram pics and we all met two days later. But unfortunately I didn't like the attitude of her friend and she was a master of Photoshop! She looked so different. So there was no second shoot neither second f*ck! I made only draft pics with my cellphone and I had to pay the taxi of both girls and R200 for their time. Hahahahaha one can't win at all times!

It was kind of frustrating, but I'm still in contact with the brunette who's a very kind woman. She's almost 30, mother of 2. 7 years before she was a sweet creature of god I wish I would have met and f*cked before.

Note: Take a detailed look on the tattoo on her instep so you can see it's the same girl.

[Axel Heyst]

My last visit to Scan in May saw many girls start at 1200 Real but just counter nicely and I got good results. I took 4 over a 3 days period and all took 700-800 eventually. Pro Tip, they prefer to be paid in cash. Of course, don't do it upfront!

I never paid more than 800 for a Scandallo girl on my recent SP visit, but maybe it is me because on this trip I focused primarily on pretty, tier 2, girl next door types and left the tier 1 model types to others.

Most Scandallo tier 2 quality girls will ask anywhere from 600 to 1000 and will settle for 600 to 800. A tier 1 girl (model quality) will ask anywhere from 1200 to 2000. My simple rule is offer half and be willing to settle for half plus 200 if I really want the girl and she will not go lower. A Scandallo Tier 1 girl example: after a 20 to 30 minute drink & audition that went well, a very attractive girl might ask for 1500. I will counter with a friendly 700 counteroffer, and that's that unless the girl counters my counter with 800 or 900 offer in which case, I will usually accept it and off we go. No girl this trip turned down my final offer of half + 200.

I never negotiate what we are going to do. I rely on my instincts and the vibe established during our get to know ya stage ie the audition. I prefer the element of surprise plus there is no need to prespecify what you want with Brazilian girls unless you want something a little extra like anal sex or bareback sex. I met some great girls in Scandallo on my recent trip including a voluptuous blond from Paraguay, a bubbly Japanese Brazilian girl, a slender and wild Indigenes mixed race girl, and a northern Italian looking gal.

P.S. The girls don't care if a customer pays them in cash out of his pocket in the room after sex or the customer's credit card is charged at the front desk for the girl's service fee by the Scandallo hotel reception which then hands the cash to the girl before the two of you go to your room.

[DonCarlos1234]

This isn't a tall order but does take some scouting to find your girl. Every guy has their preference of what is a 10 so I would look at all the houses. Scan is usually the first choice. Not all girls there will charge you crazy rates. They don't all get several guys every night. I usually go 3-4 times when I spend a week there and I will see the same girl getting passed on time and time again and they are just waiting for 5 am to come around and leave.
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It is something else to travel with a girl who just fits your every check box and is having the time of her life traveling somewhere she never thought she'd go and with a guy she likes.

Thanks Bearsi. Terrific and detailed info. My plan is similar to what you've described. Search all venues (possibly multiple times) till the notoriously hard-to-catch 10's appear. Then see if there's magic between us. It works if you remain diligent and persistent. Sometimes it's just luck. Then the real fun begins.

[Knowledge]

I don't see why Scandallo would lower its prices. They have a great reputation and a steady stream of repeat and first time customers. They really only need a few groups of guys to make their night.

I'm pretty sure there is an expense account customer group. At least that's how I was first invited to a night out there. Every year that goes by I"m less likely to return because I spend more and more time sleeping at night and more and more of my fun time is during daylight hours. I remember lots of good looking girls but basic food.

Still a lot of money if you consider all other mandatory expenses. For just a quick 1 hour service. Pernoite would be a different story and somewhat justified, but they won't do it for 700-800.

[DonCarlos1234]

Many of the girls on Twitter also advertise there. I know of 2 Twitter girls that got back to me after I was already on my way back home. But the ones advertising on those online sites seem to be better at getting back to me. Also seem to have GPS with them making money on privacy and onlyfans. 2 others that got back to me wanted deposits through PIX and I am not a sucker so skipped that.

Met a couple of gems from private55. One of them wants to visit me in Vegas which is a no can do. My SO is here.

Planning to message someone on private55 a few days before I travel to Sao Paulo / Rio this September. I used to do the same on SA because some of those girls get 100's of messages. The internet is ruining in person meetings. Well. Except for those of us here who prefer reality.

[MiamiBoy1]

My last visit to Scan in May saw many girls start at 1200 Real but just counter nicely and I got good results. I took 4 over a 3 days period and all took 700-800 eventually. Pro Tip, they prefer to be paid in cash. Of course don't do it upfront!

Still a lot of money if you consider all other mandatory expenses. For just a quick 1 hour service. Pernoite would be a different story and somewhat justified, but they won't do it for 700-800.