Sao Paulo Reports

[DanielMatt]

Found this girl at https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/, back and forth on whatsup, and set up a time for her to come to my hotel. She did not show up the first time, and when she finally showed up the second day, she is not the girl of the photo, and it says 19 years old, but looks more like 35 years old. I gave her uber money and let her go. Really bad experience. https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/ is not good.

BTW, anybody knows the current situation about Scandolla? Still R150 entrance charge fully consumable before 7:00 PM every day (or some days, what are those days)? How much is after 7:00 pm? Thursday night used to be the best night. How is now? How is Friday, and Saturday? Is it worthy to go there on a Saturday night? Thanks.

[Hobbying]

When I say "touristy" of a district or establishment, I don't mean that most people in it are tourists. I mean that enough tourists have visited that the locals have developed special routines for foreigners -- nearly always stuff you want to avoid.

It only takes 1 in a 1000, and there will be routines. Nets to catch the special fish.

For example, a clinica girl recently messaged me a long plea in English, clearly a scam that had already been prepared for other gringos. Less than 1% of her clients would be gringos and obviously she didn't speak English. It was sad evidence that many of these girls are controlled by pimps. Something most of us would prefer not to know.

If you or others get such a heart-rending message, Mr Oyster, please ignore it. "What strikes the oyster shell does not damage the pearl. " -- Rumi.

Prostitution is legal in Brazil but pimps are not.

Girls are independent and may have BF's, husbands, or drug dealers that they fuck for drugs.

But like the US, human trafficking or slavery still happens in Brazil because there are poor people.

[SinfullyKorean]

I am heading to SP over Memorial Day weekend with the boys and plan to go there on Saturday 5/29.

Looking forward to your report. I'll be there soon after you.

[WyattEarp]

For example, a clinica girl recently messaged me a long plea in English, clearly a scam that had already been prepared for other gringos. Less than 1% of her clients would be gringos and obviously she didn't speak English. It was sad evidence that many of these girls are controlled by pimps. Something most of us would prefer not to know.

You might be jumping to a conclusion on the involvement pimps. These type of email scams are very common from Brazilian women (and men) you befriend. The men usually concoct some type of be. S. Business opportunity which needs immediate funding. When I receive them, I just think to myself "Too bad. I liked hanging with that person."

They likely had a friend who got some cash from a couple gringos with that same exact email. From their perspective, foreign visitors have so much money what's a few hundred or a few thousand from a bunch of gringos.

[SocratesNY]

Seems Scandallo has been open for almost 3 weeks.

How is the situation there now?

How is the talent level ATM?

Is the curfew affecting the club? Does it have to close early?

I am heading to SP over Memorial Day weekend with the boys and plan to go there on Saturday 5/29.

[Exec Talent]

When I say "touristy" of a district or establishment, I don't mean that most people in it are tourists. I mean that enough tourists have visited that the locals have developed special routines for foreigners -- nearly always stuff you want to avoid.

It only takes 1 in a 1000, and there will be routines. Nets to catch the special fish.

For example, a clinica girl recently messaged me a long plea in English, clearly a scam that had already been prepared for other gringos. Less than 1% of her clients would be gringos and obviously she didn't speak English. It was sad evidence that many of these girls are controlled by pimps. Something most of us would prefer not to know.

If you or others get such a heart-rending message, Mr Oyster, please ignore it. "What strikes the oyster shell does not damage the pearl. " -- Rumi.

In Brazil, most of the girls are not controlled by pimps. Many are attracted to the life because they are in control of themselves and their money. Most people think that girls do not have options in brothels in Brazil (used generically and collectively) but they do. They can decline clients and they can always walk away. It gets old on this forum seeing statements from gringos who really do not know service providers or Brazil. Organized crime does control other countries, but not in the major cities of Brazil.

[Polyamorist]

The clinicas in Moema are not touristy at all. When I go to these clinicas, usually I am the only non-Portugese speaker. Everybody else speaks Portugese fluently. These clinicas serve mostly Brazilian clients.

When I say "touristy" of a district or establishment, I don't mean that most people in it are tourists. I mean that enough tourists have visited that the locals have developed special routines for foreigners -- nearly always stuff you want to avoid.

It only takes 1 in a 1000, and there will be routines. Nets to catch the special fish.

For example, a clinica girl recently messaged me a long plea in English, clearly a scam that had already been prepared for other gringos. Less than 1% of her clients would be gringos and obviously she didn't speak English. It was sad evidence that many of these girls are controlled by pimps. Something most of us would prefer not to know.

If you or others get such a heart-rending message, Mr Oyster, please ignore it. "What strikes the oyster shell does not damage the pearl. " -- Rumi.

[DiverOyster]

Salaam JimmyBoy,

This is correct. Although these are all a standard part of the service, if you are a gringo some girls will pretend that they are not. For this reason in any clinica is necessary for us to do the Three-Frescura test. In Brazil a frescura is anything a girl does to make a session worse rather than better. The three frescuras are (1) no kissing or bad kissing, (2) refusal to do a BBBJ, and (3) artificial lube in the pussy. I think the locals rarely suffer the frescura treatment, but girls have been conditioned to automatically run frescuras on gringos so it is (unfortunately) necessary for us to ask these rather crude-sounding questions. Even in a high-end boate like Scandallo there are some girls who have conditioned to run frescuras and you have to ask the questions and prove that you are not a dumb tourist: basically making the point that you are human and do not expect to be ripped off.

This mini-interview also gives the girl an opportunity to opt out if she is not attracted to you. In theory every girl in a lineup is available. In practice, not exactly. If the girl wants to opt out, she will act hesitant when you ask her these direct questions. That's not pleasant but it's better you find out at this stage rather than in the room. There are girls who are more than happy to punish you for not doing due diligence. And of course even in Brazil there are some girls who simply don't like the job they are in and shouldn't be there. You need to be able to filter those out.

If you go to touristy clinicas, like Enjoy and certain others in Moema, your chances of running into frescuras (and being ripped off in general) are greater than if you go to places where tourists are unknown. In many ways the "better" parts of Sao Paulo are the worst. I noticed that even in some restaurants they will try to rip off gringos now. You can understand that the pandemic has caused economic hardship and possibly some envy of our relatively rich lifestyle.

Absolutely correct. It happened to me once in Abbobara and I walked out without picking a girl. That is why I don't go to Abbobara any more.

The clinicas in Moema are not touristy at all. When I go to these clinicas, usually I am the only non-Portugese speaker. Everybody else speaks Portugese fluently. These clinicas serve mostly Brazilian clients.

[DiverOyster]

Salaam JimmyBoy,

This is correct. Although these are all a standard part of the service, if you are a gringo some girls will pretend that they are not. For this reason in any clinica is necessary for us to do the Three-Frescura test. In Brazil a frescura is anything a girl does to make a session worse rather than better. The three frescuras are (1) no kissing or bad kissing, (2) refusal to do a BBBJ, and (3) artificial lube in the pussy. I think the locals rarely suffer the frescura treatment, but girls have been conditioned to automatically run frescuras on gringos so it is (unfortunately) necessary for us to ask these rather crude-sounding questions. Even in a high-end boate like Scandallo there are some girls who have conditioned to run frescuras and you have to ask the questions and prove that you are not a dumb tourist: basically making the point that you are human and do not expect to be ripped off.

This mini-interview also gives the girl an opportunity to opt out if she is not attracted to you. In theory every girl in a lineup is available. In practice, not exactly. If the girl wants to opt out, she will act hesitant when you ask her these direct questions. That's not pleasant but it's better you find out at this stage rather than in the room. There are girls who are more than happy to punish you for not doing due diligence. And of course even in Brazil there are some girls who simply don't like the job they are in and shouldn't be there. You need to be able to filter those out.

If you go to touristy clinicas, like Enjoy and certain others in Moema, your chances of running into frescuras (and being ripped off in general) are greater than if you go to places where tourists are unknown. In many ways the "better" parts of Sao Paulo are the worst. I noticed that even in some restaurants they will try to rip off gringos now. You can understand that the pandemic has caused economic hardship and possibly some envy of our relatively rich lifestyle.

Absolutely correct. It happened to me once in Abbobara and I walked out without picking a girl. That is why I don't go to Abbobara any more.

I always interview the clinica girls at presentation to make sure they kiss with tongue. At Prime, some girls say no to DFK at interviews. However, I took one such girl up to the room and offered her a tip to dfk and she turned out to be one of the best DFK passionate kissers I have ever had. At the end of the 2-hour session, I gave her a tip of 100 reals which is trivial, really. It is around the price of a lousy lap dance in a strip club in the USA.

[DiverOyster]

500 reals / h in Brazil?

I am guessing that's what you pay for a prim provider at a fancy place.

You are correct. 500 reals / HR is the minimum price for a Scandallo girl. There are girls at Scandallo who ask even more at around 800 but I usually ignore them. The services at Scandallo vary from girls to girls, despite the high prices. Each girl is a free lancer. I have had top notch GFE services from girls I picked up at Scandallo but I also have had absolutely terrible services. Scandallo itself is a super-luxury club with beautiful modern facilities. However, it is your luck of the draw when it comes to the services of the girls at Scandallo. This modus operandi is a contrast to that of my pre-pandemic playground FKK Globe in Zurich in which the club monitors and controls and services of the girls, even though the Globe girls are also self-employed free lancers. Anyway, I come to Scandallo to enjoy playing in a first-class luxurious setting at night.

During the day in Sao Paulo, the clinicas in Moema offer much better value.

[DiverOyster]

Are there any differences in modus operandi between a clinica and a prive? I have been to several clinicas in Moema area such as Abbobora, Miruna, Prime, Enjoy, Julia 57. These are the best value in SP, in comparison to the costs of playing in Scandallo.

I don't think I have been to a prive. Have anyone been to a prive and how does it differ from a clinica? Or the two terms are synonyms and can be used interchangeably?

[Combo]

I am surprised to hear that, as the 2 languages have so much in common, and that is probably why Brazilians understand Spanish. The grammar is practically the same. The one big difference I found was the pronunciation, drastically different between Spanish and Portuguese. If you try to read Spanish text and Portuguese text, you will see how close they are. I learned Portuguese first, then I learned Spanish. I often get confused and end up using more Spanish than Portuguese. My Spanish is much better than my Portuguese, as I have visited more Spanish speaking countries.

I agree! A few years ago, I took a mongering trip to Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon) and I don't speak any Vietnamese. I managed very well with my translation app (Say Hi). I found it better than Google translate.

Brasilians generally understand Spanish pretty well. But native Spanish speakers typically don't understand Portugues. Like you said, the pronunciation is very different, with Spanish being much more straitforward in that regard.

[Lefeu]

...Every Brazilian I met told me that Spanish was easy to learn, but Portuguese was much more difficult and complicated. I believe them...

I am surprised to hear that, as the 2 languages have so much in common, and that is probably why Brazilians understand Spanish. The grammar is practically the same. The one big difference I found was the pronunciation, drastically different between Spanish and Portuguese. If you try to read Spanish text and Portuguese text, you will see how close they are. I learned Portuguese first, then I learned Spanish. I often get confused and end up using more Spanish than Portuguese. My Spanish is much better than my Portuguese, as I have visited more Spanish speaking countries.

...But I was able to communicate fairly well with my girls using Google Translate in conversation mode. Many times after a session my girls and I would lay around and converse very nicely using this app. The girls were into it. It is not perfect or as good as just speaking in the same language, but it worked! And it was fun...

I agree! A few years ago, I took a mongering trip to Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon) and I don't speak any Vietnamese. I managed very well with my translation app (Say Hi). I found it better than Google translate.

[Combo]

I curious about the current P2P situation in boetes like Scandallo, Connection, Bamboa etc.

Those who have recently visited boetes, especially those I mentioned above, I appreciate if you could answer the following questions about girls and compare current situation with 2019 (pre-pandemic).

1. Number of girls? More, less or same.

2. Optics (on average how pretty are they)? More, less or same.

3. What is the mix of pros, semi-pros and armatures? More, less or same for each category.

4. Prices? More, less or same.

There's no mix. They are all pros in the venues you mentioned.

I haven't been since Covid started as my trip in February was canceled. However, from what has been reported here, you can likely pay less than you would have a couple years ago. Times are tough and the girls have to be pretty desperate.

[Lalabo]

I curious about the current P2P situation in boetes like Scandallo, Connection, Bamboa etc.

Those who have recently visited boetes, especially those I mentioned above, I appreciate if you could answer the following questions about girls and compare current situation with 2019 (pre-pandemic).

1. Number of girls? More, less or same.

2. Optics (on average how pretty are they)? More, less or same.

3. What is the mix of pros, semi-pros and armatures? More, less or same for each category.

4. Prices? More, less or same.