Sao Paulo Reports

[Azn Safado]

Salaam Mr Cane.

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As such it often makes me slap my forehead to see the misinformation perpetuated on this thread by "authorities" and their pathetic sock puppets, seeking to draw American visitors away from the real culture of healthy sex (including P4 P) that exists in Brazil, and into their own sponsors' traps like livestock to the sausage factory. Just look at all the BS that was talked about Fazendinha and how many mongers had to sacrifice themselves lemming-like and report here before we figured out it was BS.

Salaam Poly.

How is Fazendinha BS? I bet you've never even been there! LOL. Just like you weren't in Sao Paulo or at Connection to see all the "numbers are down".

[Member #4732]

This is jut about facts.

There was a post earlier by another poster making negative aspersions of the professional behavior of Manu ex receptionist at Miruna. This triggered several posts from recent visitors because seemingly everyone that visited SP in the last 2 years met Manu has a good opinion of her as the consummate receptionist (pun intended), and now a top rated GP. Now bear in mind this accusatory post was totally unprovoked or related to any recent discussions. It was just a bolt out of the blue, just an odd random post.

When asked for clarification of the vague accusation the original poster declined to answer any follow up and instead tried to play the victim card.

Lacking any clarification and out of curiosity I asked in a local SP putanheiro (monger) chat if there was anything to the accusations. The universal response from guys that live in SP and have been frequent clients of all the clinicas discussed here is that Manu was a great receptionist, and now a great GP. No one has heard anything negative about her. Another anecdotal datapoint, according to the original post Manu's "actions" (not described) hurt the clinica business. Yet the last time I saw Manu she was sitting next to the owner on the couch in 57 and he had his arm around her and they were laughing. Nor was there any gossip about Miruna's business being down. A quick search in gpguia for the term Manu in the Mirunas, Kin and 57 subforums returns pages of TDs in which the local clients praise Manu's work as a receptionist and now GP. Make of it what you will.

So, the original accusation might me be true. It might not be true. There is insufficient detail at present, noting that the original accuser has declined to provide follow up.

Also, our esteemed OP followed his whistle blowing coverage of the Manu "scandal" by posting that because "someone" visited Connection on a slow night that ispo facto the buzz was dead and there might be a ban on garotas working without a vaccine permit. This surely caused several readers to panic over whether they should revisit their travel plans. There is no such work requirement in Brasil, there has not been such a requirement and there is none being considered publicly. Some SP escorts have told me recently that they cannot work outside of Brazil at the moment because most of the escort destinations require a vaccination proof. But that is outside of Brasil. Anyone on the ground should know that does not apply to SP (at least at the moment).

Also, our esteemed OP endowed us with a nice long screed, in the middle of which he claimed that Fazendinha in Campinas has been exposed as a tourist trap devised by the Illuminati to lure dumb gringos to leave SP and spend time in a luxury locale with available women. Sounds horrible. I have never been to Fazendinha because imo there are enough alternatives in SP. I have no strong interest in going there. But I know guys that have been there and liked it. I have read reports here from guys like Steve6969 that said they had good times there. The last distinguished report from AznSafado said many nice things about Fazendinha but concluded he wouldn't repeat due to his preference for Scandalo and other SP boates. I did not come away from reading his report that he thought he was exposing Fazendinha as a sham or fraud.

Cheers.

[Member #4732]

Salaam Mr Cane.

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So since I am here, and since I was provoked by one far more incautious than yourself Mr Cane, let me give a general warning to all the thousands of casual grazing mongers reading this post. If anyone here PMs you offering to be your "guide" to Sao Paulo for money, show them your rear please. You will never get good information about sex from any guy making money off it. They are getting far more money from the clubs themselves. If you want good information, you can only trust reports from real mongers, people who post without hope of return, people who have work outside the sex industry. People like you, people like me.

And FFS never give up your ID at a sex club. There's a big sign. It's a sex club!

Stop being such a diva. Continue to post your "amazing" takes and those of us who know better will correct them when they are wrong.

[Nounce]

Such unexplained fury! I said nothing about you.

Rovnak, the more you try to get an ISG member to shut up about his experiences, the more motivated he is going to be to share them... because he knows he's touched a nerve.

Explain that to your backers. Explain the problem with the Internet. Nobody can shut anybody up.

I think another way to look at it is the opposite. He wants more detail so he actually wants you to post more.

[The Cane]

So since I am here, and since I was provoked by one far more incautious than yourself Mr Cane, let me give a general warning to all the thousands of casual grazing mongers reading this post. If anyone here PMs you offering to be your "guide" to Sao Paulo for money, show them your rear please. You will never get good information about sex from any guy making money off it. They are getting far more money from the clubs themselves. If you want good information, you can only trust reports from real mongers, people who post without hope of return, people who have work outside the sex industry. People like you, people like me. And FFS never give up your ID at a sex club. There's a big sign. It's a sex club!

On this, in unison we agree!

[Polyamorist]

Are you in Brazil and / or have you traveled to Brazil relatively recently? It's a straight forward question.

Salaam Mr Cane.

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That's a great question. I wish I had an answer of equal awesomeness to offer you. Ya hasrety, I am modest to a fault and very slow to talk about myself, preferring to shoot the bate-papo on topics like beer, sex, girls, clubs, in a nutshell the topics of this forum.

More generally, I tend to draw back on being asked pointed questions about my personal circumstances on forums online. I've nothing against you personally of course. In fact you would probably feel the same if you were as woefully acquainted as myself with the dark magic creeping into the Internet.

Still I'm happy to tell you what I told you on a previous occasion (except you forgot?) That my relationship with Brazil goes back a looong way, in fact well before my postings on FKKs. As such it often makes me slap my forehead to see the misinformation perpetuated on this thread by "authorities" and their pathetic sock puppets, seeking to draw American visitors away from the real culture of healthy sex (including P4 P) that exists in Brazil, and into their own sponsors' traps like livestock to the sausage factory. Just look at all the BS that was talked about Fazendinha and how many mongers had to sacrifice themselves lemming-like and report here before we figured out it was BS.

So since I am here, and since I was provoked by one far more incautious than yourself Mr Cane, let me give a general warning to all the thousands of casual grazing mongers reading this post. If anyone here PMs you offering to be your "guide" to Sao Paulo for money, show them your rear please. You will never get good information about sex from any guy making money off it. They are getting far more money from the clubs themselves. If you want good information, you can only trust reports from real mongers, people who post without hope of return, people who have work outside the sex industry. People like you, people like me.

And FFS never give up your ID at a sex club. There's a big sign. It's a sex club!

[Turgid]

I noticed that numbers are way down at Connection Night Club....

First hand knowledge is always better than second hand knowledge.

[The Cane]

Salaam, Citizen! May your goats never be lost to the wild animals that dwell in the Kipsing plains.

I can only say the feeling is mutual. I first saw your wise posts in the FKK threads; then, when the scene dried up in Europe, I notice you started posting reports in the Brazilian part of ISG. Did I assume you were in Germany the whole time and only pretending to be in Brazil for monger cred? Nope. Hell that would be a bizarre thing for me to accuse you of without any evidence. Some things we just take on faith. Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam!

I have been posting in both the Brazil and the FKK threads for years and years! Almost from the get go. Nobody is here to accuse you of anything (I'm not anyway). I mean why the continued subterfuge? Are you in Brazil and / or have you traveled to Brazil relatively recently? It's a straight forward question.

[Polyamorist]

I have to say that I had some of the same questions. I mean, for all of the time I've been on ISG, I've known you as a German FKK guy. Then all of a sudden you're posting in the Brazil threads, and I don't recall any announcements that you were going to Brazil.

Salaam, Citizen! May your goats never be lost to the wild animals that dwell in the Kipsing plains.

I can only say the feeling is mutual. I first saw your wise posts in the FKK threads; then, when the scene dried up in Europe, I notice you started posting reports in the Brazilian part of ISG. Did I assume you were in Germany the whole time and only pretending to be in Brazil for monger cred? Nope. Hell that would be a bizarre thing for me to accuse you of without any evidence. Some things we just take on faith. Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam!

[DreamCarnarvon]

I've been to Kin a couple of times the past few weeks and haven't come across Manu. Do you know if she's still there? I've heard of another Manu at 57 Friends but haven't seen her and don't know if it's the same girl. I thought 57 might be where she ended up since it's around the corner from Miruna.

That said, 57 has been quite good recently as has Kin, if you like the clinicas. Some nice girls and not as crowded as Prime.

A member who PM'ed me said that Manu is currently working at 57. I did a quick search on gp-guia and it seems that she has moved from Kin to 57. So I think you will find her there. When you see her, I definitely recommend you to take her. Her service is excellent and she as a ton of positive reviews.

I had been to 57 a couple of times on my last trip. The lineup was just so so for me at the time. But as anyone who frequent clinicas would know, the lineups are always changing. I do like the set up at 57 a lot where the girls are out in the lounge area and the clients can mingle with them freely. Like at Scandallo. At Prime, the girls have an area setup for them on the outside where they can sit and relax. If the client wants to, they can go and chat with the girls. I wish more clinicas have a similar setup like that of Prime or 57. Too many times I have found myself having a hard time making a decision on a girl because the girls go by so quickly during the presentation. Its tough to evaluate and compare in that short amount of time, especially when there are more than one that I like. I often have to sit through at least 2-3 presentations before I make a decision. Of course that is part of the fun.

[The Cane]

Such unexplained fury! I said nothing about you.

Rovnak, the more you try to get an ISG member to shut up about his experiences, the more motivated he is going to be to share them... because he knows he's touched a nerve.

Explain that to your backers. Explain the problem with the Internet. Nobody can shut anybody up.

I have to say that I had some of the same questions. I mean, for all of the time I've been on ISG, I've known you as a German FKK guy. Then all of a sudden you're posting in the Brazil threads, and I don't recall any announcements that you were going to Brazil (I could have missed any that were made). So, are you actually in Brazil, or did you recently travel to Brazil? That might explain how or why you appear to know about certain things you claim to be happening on the ground there.

[Polyamorist]

Why are all of your posts so mysterious and full of insinuations?

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Such unexplained fury! I said nothing about you.

Rovnak, the more you try to get an ISG member to shut up about his experiences, the more motivated he is going to be to share them... because he knows he's touched a nerve.

Explain that to your backers. Explain the problem with the Internet. Nobody can shut anybody up.

[Ksa Sing]

I've been to Kin a couple of times the past few weeks and haven't come across Manu. Do you know if she's still there? I've heard of another Manu at 57 Friends but haven't seen her and don't know if it's the same girl. I thought 57 might be where she ended up since it's around the corner from Miruna.

That said, 57 has been quite good recently as has Kin, if you like the clinicas. Some nice girls and not as crowded as Prime.

I am not familiar with Miruna's staff or their lineup at all since I only been there a handful of times. Are you saying that Manu was telling the girls to be disrespectful to their clients? I actually had a session with her and can't imagine she would do that based on how she treated me and my friend. But if it's the same Manu we are talking about, then she is indeed beautiful and she always carries a smile on her face. Manu was more personal to her clients than most receptionists. After the presentation, she would always come by and sit down next to the clients with the names of the girls in her hand and politely ask which ones the clients prefer. She never treated me disrespectfully in any way.

The session I had with her was excellent. And I have to thank my good Brazilian friend, who sessioned with her the day after me and he had a great session too. So it started when I went to Brooklin to meetup with this friend. When I got there, he was in the lobby having just came out of a session with his favorite girl Rafa. We chatted a bit before his friend came out of his session. The two of them then started chatting about the lineup at the other clinicas and Kin came up. My friend turned to me and told me that the receptionist at Miruna had just started working at Kin. I immediately thought of Manu but I was like nah, it can't be her. His friend then showed me a picture of her. It wasn't the greatest picture but I recognized her and I was like holy shit it is her. His friend then told me he had already sessioned with her twice. So I'm all pumped up and I tell my friend to lets go to Kin to check her out. When we arrived, my friend asked the receptionist Larissa about Manu..

[Member #4732]

Why are all of your posts so mysterious and full of insinuations? First you accuse Manu while providing zero evidence or concrete details. Who or what is your source for you accusations? What exactly are you accusing her of having done? You provide no detail, just vague allusions and unsubstantiated finger pointing. If you have real information state it. State clearly what she "purportedly" did, and state clearly how you "purportedly" know this. If you can't or won't do this then stop posting unfounded accusations, the forum is already full of other poseurs professing to be experts.

As for Connection. Another post of weird, unsubstantiated hyperbolic speculation. There is no vaccination rule in force. Boates have busy nights and slow nights, everyone knows this. You or your source probably visited on a slow night and once again it seems you take one bad experience and extrapolate it to suggest some widespread conspiracy. You know there is a name for that tendency, it begins with p.

When were you last in SP? Are you there now? You write as if you are but you don't state it. Are you reporting first hand or hearsay?

All you do is accuse In this forum is accuse the locals of scams, frescuras, and bad service while providing no real detail that conforms to the experience of anyone else. Have you ever noticed that no one agrees with any of your posts? It's because your perception of reality is very different from everyone else on this forum, at least as it pertains to Brazil. Maybe you should reflect on that.

Please do not reply with your usual smoke and mirrors non answers. Reply to my specific questions or not at all.

Salaam Polyamorist.

I noticed that numbers are way down at Connection Night Club. Does anybody know why? They themselves didn't want to talk about it.

Is it because girls at Connection and Scandallo now have to get the vaccine before they are allowed in?

If so, many here will applaud the regulation. But there is bound to be an awkward interim period of low numbers.

I can see this hitting freelancers particularly hard. And freelancers are really the life of the party.

Anyway numbers are down at Connection and the atmosphere is like a soggy blanket.

[Egy Monger New]

Is it because girls at Connection and Scandallo now have to get the vaccine before they are allowed in?

Is this just for the WGs or men included?